[13:15] <flocculant> balloons: what's the crack with defect summary? any hope of getting that back before next week?
[15:21] <balloons> flocculant, should ask Matthew to have a look
[15:21] <balloons> speaking personally, I won't be attempting to fix it right away
[15:21] <balloons> but it should get fixed
[15:22] <balloons> flocculant, do you want to be point on getting it fixed?
[15:23] <balloons> aka, you know how to test and review work right; I mean from a functional side of things
[15:27] <balloons> hunter has also been added to the team; so I think it's a matter of working with those two
[17:40] <flocculant> balloons: no idea how to do any of that
[17:49] <balloons> flocculant, I thought you setup a dev server
[17:49] <balloons> ?
[17:50] <flocculant> nope
[17:51] <flocculant> if it's simple enough I could I guess
[17:53] <balloons> yea, you remember running the script ?
[17:54] <flocculant> vaguely now you mention it
[17:54] <flocculant> something failed and I lost impetus
[17:54] <flocculant> that being a posh word for interest :p
[17:54] <flocculant> actually it isn't - but the channel's been ontopic for long enough ...
[17:55] <flocculant> balloons: point me at it and I'll see what gives
[17:55] <flocculant> will it work in a vm?
[17:55] <balloons> I just have a trusty vm and ran the script inside it
[17:55] <balloons> abd yep, instant dev server
[17:56] <balloons> then you can pull and bzr branch you wish and play with it
[17:56] <balloons> *any
[17:56] <flocculant> right
[17:57] <flocculant> balloons: I remember now \o/
[17:57] <balloons> https://github.com/SmajevicIrfan/qatracker-setup-script
[17:57] <balloons> we should probably clean up and host that script properly too
[17:58] <flocculant> I moaned it whacking out a load of apt-get installs with no warning :)
[17:58] <flocculant> balloons: so script does everything needed?
[17:59] <balloons> yep
[17:59] <balloons> the tracker then is on localhost
[17:59] <flocculant> and I can do this in a vm with no trouble?
[17:59] <balloons> you can play with the drupal modules after to tweak things
[18:00] <balloons> I did, more than once. I think it will just work for you
[18:00] <flocculant> okey doke
[18:00] <dkessel> oh, nice!
[18:01]  * dkessel bookmarks
[18:02] <flocculant> balloons: xenial ok?
[18:26] <balloons> dkessel, oO
[18:26] <balloons> flocculant, xenial is 'ok', but the tracker runs on precise actually
[18:27] <balloons> matters only if something isn't compatible with the old php stuff
[18:28] <flocculant> ...
[18:31] <flocculant> I'll grab that really archaic image then :p
[18:36] <jamie1> hey im looking to setup a bootable idiot stick, is it possible to do so with zsync and be able to just boot into normal hdd and then update the iso on the idiot stick with zsync?
[18:36] <flocculant> jamie1: hi - this isn't a support channel - try #ubuntu
[18:37] <jamie1> flocculant: im trying to do it for testing, that is why i was asking here
[18:37] <jamie1> im trying to setup a testing environment on a 64gb idiot stick
[18:39] <flocculant> jamie1: not sure if you could - cos you need to dd the iso to the stick (or set it up somehow) at which point you don't have a foo.iso on it
[18:39] <flocculant> so zsync would just say it was missing and grab the iso again (afaik)
[18:40] <jamie1> what would be the best way to setup a testing envirment on an idiot stick then? or should i just be using a virtual machine for a testing enviroment?
[18:40] <flocculant> looks like what you really want is to install to the stick - then you just update that
[18:40] <flocculant> or a vm as you say
[18:40] <jamie1> sorry i came from working on a mobile os project that is shutting down and trying to learn desktop now
[18:40] <flocculant> I run xenial on hardware constantly tbh - and vm for milestone and daily tests
[18:41] <flocculant> jamie1: yep - no problem :)
[18:41] <jamie1> so i should probably fully install xenial to the thumb drive and just update it every time i test?
[18:41] <flocculant> you can do that yep
[18:42] <flocculant> just make sure you install grub to the stick and not /dev/sda
[18:42] <flocculant> if you do that the machine would need the stick to boot :)
[18:42] <jamie1> ive doen that before....
[18:42] <flocculant> when installing - choose the Something Else option at partitioning stage - you can pick where to install grub then :)
[18:43] <jamie1> i know, just didnt know what the best way to setup a testing enviroment was... wanted to check and find out, i have been running ubuntu since 8.04
[18:43] <flocculant> balloons: I don't think I've looked at 12.04 since 2012 - apart from milestone tests
[18:44] <flocculant> jamie1: ok, hard to know what information to give :)
[18:44] <jamie1> flocculant: i know... dealt with the same thing when helping introduce people when i was working on firefox os
[18:44] <flocculant> :)
[18:45] <balloons> jamie1, this may help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup
[18:45] <balloons> flocculant, :-)
[18:45] <jamie1> balloons: thanks :p, im still going to be working on getting touch ported to the z3c, I have to blobs already, just need to setup the enviroment for the porting setup
[18:46] <balloons> jamie1, lovely to see you again :-)
[18:46] <flocculant> oh bah
[18:46] <jamie1> lol
[18:46] <flocculant> drive with vm's on is almost full
[18:47] <jamie1> i just reinstalled everything to cheat and get ride of all my firefox os setups... was taking up 200+ gb
[18:47] <flocculant> :)
[18:48] <jamie1> do you guys by any chance have any images for touch that will run in an emulator or have an ide setup for it at all?
[18:49]  * flocculant wanders off while balloons starts talking about that stuff 
[18:50] <balloons> jamie1, that's a hard spot. We do have an emulator -- setup the SDK and try it. But it fails for many, and is still at best, an emulator
[18:51] <jamie1> so better to just focus on a port then to try to get an emulator running it?
[18:52] <balloons> hmm..
[18:53] <jamie1> i kinda still have to blobs for the device from when i was working on firefox os...
[18:53] <jamie1> *the blobs
[18:53] <balloons> assuming getting it to boot isn't too hard, I'd say yes
[18:53] <jamie1> okay, after i finish setting up the desktop testing enviroment ill start setting up the system for a port, thanks for the advice
[18:54] <jamie1> and even if it takes some work to get it to boot... still better than a expensive device sitting around doing nothing but collecting dust
[18:55] <balloons> https://devices.ubports.com/#/
[18:56] <jamie1> sadly i dont have any of those devices
[19:00] <jamie1> balloons: some of the stuff required for a build environment is only availble for utopic, should i be using utopic for working on the port?
[19:00] <balloons> questions for #ubuntu-touch, and perhaps dholbach and ogra. That said, the images are based on utopic now, and will move to xenial I believe
[19:23] <flocculant> balloons: good lord - this 12.04.5 is STILL installing :|
[19:36] <davmor2> flocculant: yes I have that one to look forward to too :)
[19:37] <flocculant> davmor2: 12.04.5 ?
[19:37] <flocculant> I am happy that we forgot about that in 2015
[19:37] <flocculant> I am also happy that we can forget about 14.04 next year too :)
[19:38] <davmor2> I need to install 12.04.5 and upgrade to 14.04.4 :)
[19:38] <flocculant> oh
[19:38] <flocculant> nice ...
[19:38] <flocculant> :)
[19:38] <davmor2> flocculant: yes I'm just that lucky
[19:38] <flocculant> ha ha ha
[19:39] <flocculant> this install is wanting 500Mb of updates ... then I'll see what this dev setup gives me
[19:39] <flocculant> at least it's not dial-up speeds :p
[20:33] <flocculant> davmor2: 2 hours later it's done :p
[20:45] <flocculant> balloons: I KNEW it would ask me something I have no clue about :D what is the ip address of my apache server then?
[20:45] <balloons> localhost
[20:48] <flocculant> so I should get something other than not found at http://localhost/?q=admin/config/services/qatracker ?
[20:50] <balloons> try just going to localhost
[20:51] <balloons> did you do the http://localhost/install.php?
[20:51] <flocculant> no
[20:52] <flocculant> the wiki says the script does everything lol
[20:52] <balloons> did you read the little info it echoed?
[20:52] <balloons> you do have to click through the drupal wizard and turn on the modules, but it's painless
[20:53] <flocculant> oh right - no I didn't read the instructions :p
[20:53] <balloons> you do have to click through the drupal wizard and turn on the modules, but it's painless
[20:53] <balloons> hit that url and click through, and that should be good
[20:53] <flocculant> mmm
[20:53] <flocculant> open in gedit or save file ...
[20:55] <flocculant> I'll look tomorrow - really had enough of Tuesday - time to chill now :)
[20:58] <balloons> kk
[21:05] <flocculant> balloons: not of this or you btw - just one of those days when you think you are working with a bunch of monkeys :p
[21:57] <jamie1> balloons: sorry to annoy you again, can you give me that link again for setting up for bug reporting and testing? I am now on 16.04 and i dont have the link right now
[21:57] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup
[21:58] <jamie1> thanks
[22:06] <flocculant> balloons: tried again before really giving up - if I localhost - it want's to open install.php in gedit, if I tell it 127.0.0.1 instead it just doesn't find it
[22:08] <balloons> flocculant, browse to the site yourself. Perhaps it's because he's using xdg-open and your box wants to use gedit. Doesn't matter
[22:08] <flocculant> where is it to browse to?
[22:08] <balloons> use localhost, and fire a browser to http://localhost/install.php
[22:08] <flocculant> done that - gedit or save :)
[22:09] <balloons> good to note as improvements to the script though
[22:09] <balloons> what browser are you using? lol?
[22:09] <flocculant> firefox whatever version happens to be in precise
[22:09] <flocculant> it's a vanilla 12.04.5 ubuntu vm
[22:10] <balloons> wild nonetheless.. I did use trusty
[22:10] <flocculant> I asked if it was ok in xenial and you implied use precise lol
[22:10] <balloons> yea, still seems odd
[22:10] <flocculant> so I assume the guy that set the script up used trusty?
[22:11] <balloons> what does the saved page look like?
[22:11] <flocculant> saved page?
[22:11] <balloons> presumably.. but it's just packages that got installed
[22:11] <balloons> and firefox should be updated even in an lts
[22:11] <balloons> so i've no idea why it wouldn't render the page
[22:12] <flocculant> ok - definitely not playing anymore then - I'll start it installing trusty tomorrow morning and try from scratch
[22:15] <balloons> ack. Yea, trusty vanilla vm is what i use
[22:15] <flocculant> balloons: if nothing else I will add installing git as a prerequisite for git cloning to that dev page :)
[22:15] <balloons> there you go
[22:16] <balloons> but yea, it could still use some love.. Really, a container could be even better
[22:22] <flocculant> balloons: just to double check here when asked for ip address - it's actually localhost - not localhost being some shorthand for something else you think I know :)