[00:20] <bluesabre> knome: why you sleeping people silly?
[00:23] <knome> nooo
[00:23] <knome> i'm not sleeping!
[00:25] <bluesabre> :o
[02:34] <bluesabre> Trying to figure out what is broken for clutter is a pain
[02:42] <bluesabre> Well, parole starts now, but the video pops out into its own window
[02:45] <knome> plop
[02:45] <knome> ;)
[03:18] <bluesabre> Apparently, cluttersink is now clutterautovideosink
[03:18] <bluesabre> and has different properties
[04:21] <bluesabre> after playing with that code for a few hours, no progress
[04:21] <bluesabre> yay
[04:21] <bluesabre> night all
[04:28] <Unit193> G'nighty, bluesabre.
[07:40] <flocculant> oh good lord - another rebuild 
[08:02] <Nairwolf> flocculant: I've haven't time to test new version of xubuntu, but how is the next xubuntu 15.04 ? Will it be a good version ? 
[08:03] <flocculant> 16.04 is looking good :)
[08:04] <Nairwolf> oh, yes, we are in 2016 ;)
[08:04] <flocculant> Nairwolf: I'll be wanting as many people as possible to test the beta 1 milestone next week - so you can have a go with that :)
[08:04] <Nairwolf> oh, good ! 
[08:04] <Nairwolf> okay, will you send a new mail ?
[08:04] <Unit193> flocculant: I've got 3 systems on it!
[08:05] <Nairwolf> great ;)
[08:05] <flocculant> Nairwolf: yep - to the -devel list and directly to people in https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-testers
[08:05] <flocculant> Unit193: I knew I could count on you quietly :p
[08:05] <Nairwolf> where I can find what will be new in this version ? 
[08:05] <flocculant> and I see where you report things as well 
[08:05] <Nairwolf> a release notee
[08:05] <flocculant> Nairwolf: for 16.04?
[08:05] <Nairwolf> yes
[08:06] <Nairwolf> is it already writen, or not ? 
[08:06] <flocculant> there will be a release note and a website page
[08:06] <Unit193> Figured you might see reports.
[08:06] <flocculant> ha ha ha - no not even started - I'll do that next week 
[08:06] <flocculant> Unit193: :)
[08:06] <Nairwolf> ok, ok ;)
[08:07] <flocculant> Unit193: I dropped by -dekstop yesterday and dropped the gst issue in there - that'll get sorted now I think
[08:07] <flocculant> with bugs being marked critical etc
[08:08] <flocculant> seb got it to fail in rhythmbox 
[08:10] <Unit193> Nice!
[08:10] <flocculant> possibly would have been easier to find it fails in rhythmbox I guess :)
[08:41] <dkessel> flocculant: do you als have "parole displays all videos as green window in xenial"?
[08:41] <dkessel> also
[08:42] <dkessel> vlc also only plays half the videos anymore
[13:09] <flocculant> dkessel: that's a clutter issue afair bug 1513277 
[13:09] <flocculant> change to xv to use it
[13:09] <flocculant> no idea about vlc never use it :)
[13:28] <flocculant> just so people are aware if they were intending to test trusty - another rebuild happening 'tomorrow' 
[13:37] <Akxwi-dave> thx flocculant ..  date noted.. :-)
[14:41] <dkessel> oh good to know!
[14:59] <knome> Unit193, krytarik: decided which media manager you are going to confess using?
[16:28] <knome> i'm so happy we have our own wiki now
[16:28] <knome> the old one is pain to work with (and i just want to make simple edits)
[16:28] <knome> it's the slowest in ages again...
[16:48] <knome> flocculant, do we want to keep maintaining https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/HardwareProfile somewhere?
[16:49] <knome> flocculant, same for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/TeamHardware
[17:37] <flocculant> knome: spooky ... I was looking at them earlier - was going to ask you how to kill profile - not sure about other one yet
[17:40] <knome> so hwprofile is just obsolete?
[17:40] <knome> or do we want a redirect?
[17:42] <flocculant> knome: hwprofile is pretty much obsolete - the only real reason was a copy of the thing that was on the tracker - which is now gone
[17:43] <knome> yeah
[17:45] <knome> oh bah
[17:46] <flocculant> alternatively - replace it with 'really ... '
[19:16] <knome> pleia2, just that you don't get a heart attack the next time you access a marketing page in the wiki - i have copied most of them to the new wiki with 5 sec redirects on the old pages
[19:16] <pleia2> lol
[19:16] <pleia2> noted
[19:16] <knome> pleia2, but obviously if you looked at your email, you'd know this already..
[19:17] <pleia2> updates from the wiki? the wiki can't email me at the moment, I need to switch off my @ubuntu.com address
[19:18] <knome> oh
[19:18] <knome> nvm then
[19:24] <knome> pleia2, how do you feel about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing/Projects/Flyers ? i would probably just point that to the repository (this page has no information that is useful)
[19:26] <pleia2> knome: as long as we retain the information that lived on wiki (main details, formats) I think that's fine
[19:26] <pleia2> could add it to a readme file in the repo or something
[19:27] <knome> the intro is kept in x.org, the text ideas too, the formats is just for planning (and we don't plan to provide the flyer in *all* of those), and the design *is* in the repository
[19:27] <pleia2> yep
[19:27] <pleia2> so I think we're ok then
[19:27] <knome> yeah, i'll point it to the repository
[19:41] <flocculant> knome: re announcement - website currently points to the .2 announcement/release note
[19:41] <knome> i don't think we have .3 announcement/notes
[19:41] <knome> that's why it's doing that
[19:41] <flocculant> nope
[19:41] <flocculant> yea
[22:02] <krytarik> knome: Remember my reasoning for not jumping in on the vote earlier?  That's valid for real now! :P  (Not using anything regularly myself currently.)
[22:03] <knome> i don't... :P
[22:07] <flocculant> vote? 
[22:07] <knome> depends on the election i guess :P
[22:14] <krytarik> → https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-November/010948.html
[22:14] <flocculant> oh that
[22:14] <knome> aha.
[22:21] <ochosi> hey bluesabre, if you wanna get that patch into xfpm you better submit it soonish ;)
[22:45] <ochosi> bluesabre: also, it might be a good idea to postpone some workitems from development so the focus can be laid on the ones that really should be fixed this cycle (fonts-droid, default LO theme, shimmer-themes packageset, x-core, and a few more)
[23:13] <knome> if people want to try something new out, there's now a more integrated looking tracker at http://tracker.xubuntu.org/index2.php
[23:14] <knome> or not really tracker any more - developer area