[06:02] <_Sponge> Bonjour tout le monde !
[07:47] <MooDoo> hello
[07:57] <dholbach> good morning
[08:44] <popey> yo
[08:48] <popey> dholbach: I appreciate the help with snappy yesterday, I carried on working during the evening on it, and nailed down exactly the specific libraries and perl modules it needed
[08:48] <popey> dholbach: I uploaded it to the store, so it's now sat in review :) https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/4540/rev/1/
[08:49] <popey> Was quite enjoyable once I got into the rhythm of making the snap
[08:49]  * popey relocates to czajkowski co-working space :)
[08:49] <popey> o/
[08:52] <dholbach> popey, awesome :-D
[08:53] <czajkowski> yay
[09:34] <davidcalle> popey: what have you snapped?
[09:34] <dholbach> cowsay :)
[09:34] <davidcalle> :)
[09:39] <MooDoo> hehe I just showed that to a friend, also cowthink :)
[10:15] <popey> davidcalle: ya, cowsay and cowthink :)
[10:22] <popey> arrrgh, power connector has failed on my laptop
[10:22] <popey> dholbach: did you venture into your laptop with a soldering iron at some point?
[10:26] <dholbach> popey, I luckily never had to
[10:27] <dholbach> popey, on the x220 I could exchange the power thing easily - I didn't have to solder
[10:27] <popey> oh
[10:27] <popey> mine, i have to hold the power cable to one side, I suspect it's come away inside from the board
[10:28] <dholbach> it takes a bit to disassemble everything, but it was quite easy to do
[10:28] <popey> might have to bust it open over lunch
[10:28] <popey> ok
[10:28] <popey> ta
[10:28] <dholbach> :-)
[11:33] <dholbach> dpm, one thing we didn't discuss (which was what I wanted to discuss originally...) was if we could interest the webteam in updating the style for text layout to be a bit more modern (like in the juju docs we looked at) or if we could add some overrides
[11:34] <dpm> dholbach, good point. I think the easiest thing would be to create a design brief for the web team to kickstart that. That's what they use to schedule their work.
[11:35] <dholbach> dpm, so no preliminary discussion with Peter?
[11:36] <dpm> dholbach, I already discussed it over e-mail a few months ago. Ultimately they end up asking for a design brief, so I would definitely have a call with Peter, but I think this time around I'd suggest to have the design brief in place before the call
[11:37] <dholbach> ok, I see
[11:48] <davidcalle> +1
[11:50] <dholbach> lunch time :)
[12:30] <czajkowski> dpm: got a moment for a quick pm ?
[13:21] <dpm> czajkowski, back from lunch, sure
[13:26] <czajkowski> thanks
[14:57] <jcastro> hey does this new meizu pro 5 work in the us?
[14:59] <mhall119> jcastro: the MX4 did, so maybe?
[15:03] <jcastro> iirc the MX4 didn't do 4G/LTE
[15:30] <jcastro> "Meizu has no FCC certification in the USA and do not sell any of its devices directly to the USA. American buyers are unlikely to get stable 4G r even 3G) speeds."
[15:30]  * jcastro shakes fist in popey's general direction
[15:31] <popey> Blame your silly anti-competitive legislature my friend :)
[15:32] <czajkowski> popey: arrives over, feed him get suggested I upgrade
[15:32] <czajkowski> now waiting on upgrade to complete
[15:33] <czajkowski> do the needful!
[15:36] <mhall119> jcastro: tedg told me that his MX4 worked fine, on 3g and 4g I think
[16:00] <balloons> it works with 3g + hspa
[16:00]  * davidcalle quickly grabs a coffee and join the call in 2m
[16:01] <balloons> no LTE.. so it's really the same as most older phones who don't have lte radios anyway
[16:01] <balloons> with the prevelance of LTE now, it's a bigger deal though.  All new devices have support
[16:27] <svij> dpm: RE: UbuCon Europe: we could do another call between 29.02. and 02.03
[17:11] <dholbach> I call it a day - see you all tomorrow! have a good one! :-)
[17:24] <dpm> svij, sorry, we were on the team call. I'll put something in the calendar then, thanks!
[19:51] <wxl> pleia2: can you change fridge.u.c to point lubuntu at lubuntu.me? i don't mind going to the wiki, but it seems all the other links refer to websites.
[19:51] <jose> ?
[19:51] <wxl> jose: ubuntu flavors in the side bar
[19:52] <jose> let me see what I can do
[19:53] <pleia2> jose: you want to update under Links
[19:54] <jose> pleia2: thanks for the pointer! was looking around.
[19:54] <jose> wxl: should be all set now
[19:54] <wxl> thank you everyone :)
[19:54] <knome> jose, since you are there, please remove the www. from xubuntu
[19:54] <wxl> and also..
[19:54] <jose> knome: let's take a look...
[19:54] <wxl> kidding :)
[19:54] <wxl> i have another change i want to make on the wiki, but..
[19:55] <pleia2> jose: yeah, everything was moved around when they had to redistribute access (old links setup was admin only, and we're no longer admins)
[19:55]  * wxl ducks
[19:55] <jose> wxl: speak up now!
[19:55] <jose> pleia2: yup. also, will look through the comments now
[19:55] <wxl> jose: kidding, kidding. don't worry about it. unless you can make the wiki mutable :)
[19:55] <jose> wxl: >.>
[19:55] <pleia2> jose: thanks :)
[19:55] <pleia2> jose: it's been a while
[19:55] <wxl> does anyone know if we're going to be mutable by thursday? (14.04.4 point release)
[19:55] <jose> pleia2: no prob! have some time now :)
[19:55] <jose> knome: should be all set now, can you please double check?
[19:55] <wxl> and by thursday i mean tomorrow.
[19:56] <jose> wxl: most likely, yes.
[19:56] <knome> jose, i believe i'm hitting caching
[19:56] <wxl> thx jose
[19:56] <pleia2> hope so
[19:56] <jose> knome: ctrl+f5?
[19:56] <knome> ctrl+shift+R
[19:56] <jose> wxl: no prob :)
[19:56] <knome> still says www.
[19:57] <pleia2> it's updated, just heavy caching
[19:57] <knome> yeah
[21:13] <mhall119> pleia2: do you have an rt# handy for getting access to the help wiki back?
[21:14] <pleia2> mhall119: 27950
[21:14] <knome> what about an/the EditorGroup for wiki.ubuntu.com?
[21:15] <knome> should we list people who should be in such?
[21:15] <wxl> isn't it dependent on successful SSO login, knome?
[21:15] <pleia2> for clarity of everyone:
[21:16] <pleia2> help.ubuntu.com/community/ wiki has the AdminGroup and and EditorGroup, both are adminish-level but EditorGroup has helped us survive the lockdown from early January
[21:16] <knome> wxl, no, EditorGroup means a specific group of people who have the editing rights even when the wiki is in lcokdown
[21:16] <pleia2> both groups there have community members
[21:16] <wxl> oh i see what you mean
[21:16] <pleia2> wiki.ubuntu.com only has an AdminGroup AFAICT and that's Canonical-only I think, community members have no access to editing right now
[21:16] <wxl> as a temporary solution
[21:17] <wxl> because it would be nice to get through this freaking point release!!!
[21:17] <knome> temporary, and the editors have some extra powers too
[21:17] <pleia2> for help.ubuntu.com/community/ we have also proposed a ContributorGroup of known contributors in the community (not Admin or Editor) who are allowed access even during lockdown times
[21:18] <pleia2> without having to give them any admin powers
[21:18] <knome> is there any blocker for having the same EditorGroup for both wikis?
[21:18] <wxl> if that's an option, i'd really like to see that implemented asap
[21:18] <pleia2> I don't know if there is a political reason for not allowing community members access to wiki.u.c
[21:18] <wxl> release folks really need it
[21:19] <pleia2> but syncing them up would be good
[21:19] <knome> should we just ask about this on #canonical-sysadmin