[05:03] <chesedo> morning all
[05:54] <Kilos> morning superfly inetpro thatgraemeguy dlPhreak chesedo and others
[06:15] <dlPhreak> Morning Kilos, et al.
[06:30] <chesedo> hi oom Kilos
[06:47] <Langjan> Hey Kilos you still in SA?
[06:52] <dlPhreak> How to spot an engineer?
[06:52] <dlPhreak> Don't worry they will themselves tell you without asking.
[06:52] <dlPhreak> BTW I'm an engineer.
[06:54] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[06:54] <Kilos> yes applied for new clearance certificate yesterday
[06:55] <Kilos> hopefully it will be done in 2 weeks
[06:55] <dlPhreak> Where are you going, Kilos 
[06:56] <Kilos> wanted to go there in summer, but seems it might end up winter
[06:56] <Kilos> to visit my daughter and her mom in OZ dlPhreak 
[06:57] <Langjan> Good, looks like the sloth has awaken 
[06:57] <Kilos> i was doing dishes man
[06:57] <Kilos> oh you mean them
[06:58] <Langjan> Handyman! I do ours at night before bed
[06:58] <Kilos> haha my sister makes a point of always having dishes for me in the morning
[06:59] <Langjan> My wife makes the same point in the evenings, lmga
[06:59] <Kilos> lol
[07:00] <Kilos> women are so skelm
[07:00] <Langjan> but so irresistible
[07:01] <Kilos> haha
[07:01] <Langjan> Kilos,  who's the Libre Office Writer fundi?
[07:03] <dlPhreak> Thats cool Kilos 
[07:03] <Kilos> the fly i think bot lotsa you peeps here i dont know the expertise of
[07:04] <Kilos> so say what you need help with and see
[07:11] <Kilos> whew
[07:11] <Kilos> but lotsa young peeps
[07:15] <Langjan> I have been editing loads of docs, suddenly libre office freezes at a  specific spot and keeps on doing it, I have Googled arund and tried various fixes, no luck
[07:29] <Langjan> In desperation, I cut the whole doc and repasted it, problem solved. After wasting hours seeking a solution. Eish! 
[07:30] <Langjan> But why the hiccup in the first place? 
[07:35] <MaNI> if its not an overly personal doc you should file a bug report and send it to them as a sample - so they can look into it
[07:37] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[07:43] <andrewlsd> morning Kilos superfly inetpro thatgraemeguy dlPhreak chesedo and others
[07:43]  * thatgraemeguy tips his hat
[07:43] <superfly> Morning everyone 
[07:43] <anton_may> morning all
[07:43]  * inetpro takes a bow
[07:44]  * andrewlsd is so glad to see you all
[07:44] <andrewlsd> Maaz: coffee on
[07:44]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[07:45] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee please
[07:45] <Maaz> inetpro: Sure
[07:45] <andrewlsd> am checking the IRC logs to see what I've missed lately
[07:45] <andrewlsd> btw. have you all been busy patching your computers?
[07:46] <andrewlsd> ... because of http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35592916
[07:46]  * anton_may busy with updates
[07:46] <andrewlsd> nasty little bug in glibc
[07:47] <anton_may> apt-get -s dist-upgrade | grep "^Inst" | grep -i securi | awk -F " " {'print $2'} | xargs apt-get install
[07:48] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for andrewlsd and inetpro!
[07:49] <anton_may> ahem
[07:49] <andrewlsd> Maaz: thanks
[07:49] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Sure
[07:50] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie
[07:50] <Maaz> Groot plesier inetpro my vriend
[07:52] <andrewlsd> ^ wow. Maaz may have a small Afrikaans bias.
[07:52] <andrewlsd> Maaz: ngiyabonga
[07:52] <Maaz> Lungile umfaan
[07:53] <andrewlsd> Maaz: ndiyabulela
[07:53] <Maaz> andrewlsd: What?
[07:53] <andrewlsd> Maaz: no Xhosa?
[07:53] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Huh?
[07:53] <andrewlsd> Maaz: ke teng
[07:53] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Huh?
[07:56] <dlPhreak> andrewlsd hi
[07:58] <andrewlsd> :-) dlPhreak 
[07:58] <andrewlsd> Arcanum_za: how's the slitaz stuff going?
[07:59] <andrewlsd> are you using it for snes or visualboy much?
[08:07] <Kilos> ohi andrewlsd 
[08:07] <Langjan> MaNI, thks - nothing personal, who must I send it to? 
[08:08] <Langjan> Its a 27-page doc
[08:08] <cal_py> morning all
[08:08] <andrewlsd> ;-) Kilos 
[08:08] <andrewlsd> morning cal_py 
[08:08] <Kilos> hi cal_py 
[08:09] <cal_py> hope everyone is doing well!
[08:10] <Kilos> we alive so could be worse
[08:11] <Langjan> Guys, is this maaz-coffee thing a kickback from childhood imaginary friends sindrome? lol
[08:12] <Langjan> dead could also be better!
[08:18] <Kilos> the bots coffee is a fun think and because its cyber coffee you can have lots and not get headaches
[08:18] <Kilos> thing
[08:19] <Langjan> Good, great to have a bit of fun thrown in
[08:20] <Langjan> Cyber, not decaf - the latter is close to politically incorrect
[08:41] <Kilos> lol
[09:27] <chesedo> oh hi andrewlsd...
[09:27] <Kilos> kde hasnt got glibc installed here
[09:30] <Kilos> ai!
[09:30] <superfly> Kilos: it will
[09:31] <Kilos> oh my
[09:31] <Kilos> synaptic doesnt show it as installed
[09:32] <superfly> the package is not "glic" is something like "libc..."
[09:32] <Kilos> ah ty
[09:32] <chesedo> apt-file search glibc...
[09:33] <chesedo> gnulib and manpage (among others) have it
[09:35] <superfly> I think it's actually "libc6"
[09:35] <chesedo> there is no package for it except source (according to apt-cache search glibc)
[09:35] <superfly> I've just run a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y and am busy upgrade 261 packages
[09:35] <Kilos> ill reinstall all libc packages then if there is an upgrade ill get it
[09:36] <Kilos> ok can do that too ty
[09:36] <superfly> Kilos: reinstalling is not going to help, and I don't recommend doing only one package
[09:36] <Kilos> ok
[09:36] <superfly> glibc is such a central package, if you upgrade it but nothing else, you can render your system useless
[09:37] <superfly> you'll have a brick instead of a computer
[09:37] <Kilos> ah ty
[09:38] <Kilos> W: Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[09:38] <Kilos> what is that about
[09:42]  * chesedo  now also thinks it's libc6 (glibc might mean GNU C Library)
[09:44] <superfly> Kilos: use another mirror
[09:44] <Kilos> aptitude upgrade is doing lotsa libc5 upgrades
[09:44] <superfly> Kilos: there you go
[09:44] <Kilos> and all of libre office
[09:44] <Kilos> 90 m
[09:45] <Kilos> libc6 i mean ty 
[09:45] <superfly> Kilos: yes, everything that uses glibc needs to be recompiled too
[09:47] <Kilos> ah
[09:54] <dlPhreak> Does sabdfl ever come here?
[09:55] <Kilos> nope
[09:55] <Kilos> too busy 
[09:55] <Kilos> zerlgi wb
[09:56] <zerlgi> lol ty Kilos 
[09:56] <andrewlsd> sorry for any confusion.
[09:56] <Kilos> np
[09:56] <Kilos> i know its you
[09:57] <andrewlsd> :-)
[09:59] <dlPhreak> He was on #ubuntu a few weeks ago.
[09:59] <Kilos> yes he visits where peeps need some feedback
[10:00] <dlPhreak> Yeah, he's too busy for idle chit chat.
[10:04] <dlPhreak> Here we go again.
[10:05] <Kilos> do nt you see this
[10:05] <Kilos> [11:29] [Notice] -kloeri- [Global Notice] It's upgrade all the things day which also means lots of reboots. This will unfortunately be quite noisy. Remember connecting to chat.freenode.net, stay calm and don't panic!  
[10:06] <dlPhreak> I did not.
[10:06] <Kilos> you can set it in your client to show them
[10:07] <dlPhreak> irssi shows notices in the server window but I never look at the server window.
[10:07] <Kilos> ah
[13:29] <anton_may> lol
[13:29] <inetpro> lol?
[13:38] <Kilos> what
[14:12] <Kilos> inetpro dink miskien gou oor huis toe gaan
[14:12] <Kilos> kyk uit die venster
[14:25] <cal_py> I LOVE LINUX!
[14:25] <Kilos> well duh
[14:28] <Kilos> wb changing drives
[15:09] <Kilos> sigh
[15:10] <Kilos> konversation on ssd cant connect
[15:10]  * Kilos needs to think some
[15:12] <Kilos> coupla drops falling at least
[15:28] <Kilos> sigh
[15:37] <Kilos> ok i know where i went wrong, i ticked ssl but forgot to change port
[15:38] <Kilos> and dont member the port number either
[15:40] <chesedo> over here it's just some thunder that passed so far
[15:55] <Kilos> 1mm rain
[15:55] <Kilos> but enough storm to kill power for a bit
[16:05] <inetpro> ai!
[16:08] <Kilos> what?
[16:09] <inetpro> waar's die reen?
[16:09] <Kilos> what was the ssl port please 8880?
[16:09] <Kilos> klaar weg
[16:09] <Kilos> miskien sal dit later terug kom as die wind sal draai
[16:10] <inetpro> you mean for IRC?
[16:10] <inetpro> port 7070
[16:10] <Kilos> dankie
[16:10] <Kilos> how do i kill this stupid message thing
[16:11] <inetpro> "All freenode servers listen on ports 6665, 6666, 6667, 8000, 8001, and 8002, with SSL on 6697, 7000, and 7070"
[16:11] <inetpro> stupid message thing?
[16:11] <Kilos> often when i start typing that top message thing steals my test
[16:11] <inetpro> no idea what you're talking about
[16:11] <Kilos> knote or something
[16:12] <inetpro> screenshot please
[16:14] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co/1CNPkZpj.png
[16:15] <Kilos> now its gone
[16:15] <Kilos> sigh
[16:16] <Kilos> it didnt show
[16:16] <Kilos> makes a tiny window top of screen and the text appears there
[16:17] <Kilos> maybe clipboard
[16:17] <DalekSec> 6697 is a very typical port for SSL.
[16:17] <Kilos> i see a scissors here as well
[16:17] <Kilos> ty DalekSec 
[16:22] <Kilos> yay ty guys
[16:29] <inetpro> hmm...
[16:44] <Kilos> inetpro i think its klipper and when i try remove it synaptic say desktop and workspaces will be removed as well
[16:44] <Kilos> sigh
[16:50] <inetpro> Kilos: is it not simply kde notifications? Look at your settings
[16:51] <Kilos> nono man its that thing where you save commands
[16:51] <Kilos> here it saves random stuff
[16:51] <Kilos> i have no why idea what even starts it
[16:52] <Kilos> im on an ssd so all settings and things not sorted yet
[16:52] <Kilos> i cant rsync /home because ssd too small
[16:53] <Kilos> but its lekker fast
[16:53] <Kilos> hehe
[17:09]  * chesedo always understood that it is somewhat useless to have /home on the ssd
[17:25] <Kilos> nono you have a /home but just not on a separate partition
[17:28] <cal_py> Sup guys!
[17:58] <inetpro> hmm... the rain kicked him out again?
[17:58] <inetpro> wb chesedo
[17:59] <inetpro> chesedo: what would be wrong with having a home on ssd?
[18:00] <cal_py> sup inetpro 
[18:00] <inetpro> hi cal_py
[18:00] <cal_py> how are you?
[18:03] <chesedo> inetpro: there is no benefit to it, right?
[18:03] <inetpro> cal_py: good, good and you?
[18:03] <inetpro> chesedo: why not?
[18:03] <chesedo> it is just user files so no speed improvement
[18:04] <cal_py> good thanks! whats good?
[18:04] <inetpro> oh you mean like that, hmm...
[18:04] <inetpro> 02/17 20:00:34 <cal_py> how are you?
[18:06] <inetpro> chesedo: I assume you're right, I don't think you'll see noticable gains in speed for the home partition on ssd
[18:06] <inetpro> but it's just an assumption
[18:06] <inetpro> theoretically you should see a benefit though
[18:06] <chesedo> and config files have quite some disk writes
[18:07] <cal_py> lol inetpro do you use python?
[18:07] <inetpro> lots of stuff reads and writes to your home folder during normal operations
[18:07] <chesedo> hey, you should... it is just if it is worth the cost
[18:08] <inetpro> cal_py: superfly is our resident python "guru" here
[18:08] <cal_py> hahaha guru....
[18:08] <cal_py> dl_phreak said you good at the linuxes
[18:08] <inetpro> not sure whether he likes to be called a guru
[18:09] <inetpro> cal_py: ask away, I'm sure others would be able to help as well
[18:12] <inetpro> in here we all just stand on the shoulders of other giants to make us look like we know something
[18:13] <chesedo> +1 inetpro
[18:16] <cal_py> hahah I had a issue but I've kind of solved it LOL, I was trying to get internet time on boot
[18:17] <cal_py> because my RTC stopped working'
[18:17] <inetpro> cool
[18:18] <cal_py> was trying todo it without having to put the password in for sudo privileges 
[18:20] <inetpro> cal_py: you mean something like NTP synchronisation
[18:20] <inetpro> ?
[18:22] <cal_py> exactly inetpro 
[18:22] <cal_py> I created a script but you need to have elevated privileges to use it
[18:23] <inetpro> you can do it the old way with a cron job with command: ntpdate ntpserver 
[18:23] <inetpro> or the new way with ntpd as a service
[18:24] <inetpro> is it a desktop or a server?
[18:24] <cal_py> service ntpd restart?
[18:24] <superfly> surely ntpd runs as a service, no matter desktop or server?
[18:25] <inetpro> true but ntpd is rather chatty
[18:25] <inetpro> synching happens continuesly
[18:25] <cal_py> can I show you the three lines I found that worked?
[18:26] <inetpro> syncing as well
[18:27] <inetpro> cal_py: please enlighten us
[18:28] <cal_py> #!/bin/bash
[18:28] <cal_py> service ntp stop
[18:28] <cal_py> ntpd -gq
[18:28] <cal_py> service ntp start
[18:29] <cal_py> found it on the askubuntu site
[18:29] <cal_py> but if you run it at start up, it forces a gk sudo to pop up three times to complete the script
[18:29] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:30] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:30] <Kilos> power came and went a few times then lightning whacked tower
[18:30] <cal_py> hmm...
[18:30] <Kilos> we had some more rain inetpro 
[18:31] <Kilos> i go see how much
[18:31] <superfly> cal_py: where is your script? and when do you run it?
[18:32] <Kilos> 20mm its gonna rain
[18:32] <cal_py> I put the script in my home folder and I used gnome start up tools to run it at start up
[18:35] <Kilos> cal_py you getting to tame now, just now you break something
[18:36] <cal_py> hahaha Kilos software or hardware?
[18:36] <Kilos> who knows
[18:37] <Kilos> always rememer , if it isnt broken don't try fix it
[18:40] <cal_py> hahahaha, but it was at first, computer will be the death of me!
[18:40] <cal_py> on a lighter note has anyone tried the Nylas N1 email client?
[18:45] <cal_py> afk brb
[18:50] <cal_py> anyone here use mate desktop environment?
[18:56] <inetpro> superfly: wb
[18:56] <superfly> thanks
[18:56] <superfly> need to reinstall this VPS
[18:58] <inetpro> superfly: reinstall, why?
[18:58] <superfly> 32-bit running on a 64-bit architecture
[18:58] <inetpro> yikes!
[18:58] <superfly> I can't do any upgrading or migrating to take advantage of new features on the platform until I'm using 64-bit
[18:58] <inetpro> reminds me of my office desktop
[18:59] <inetpro> guess the time for 32-bit is over
[19:00] <inetpro> hope you guys have all run your updates and rebooted
[19:02] <inetpro> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2900-1/
[19:09] <cal_py> how do you find out about this so fast
[19:13] <inetpro> see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[19:13] <inetpro> "These notices are also posted to the ubuntu-security-announce mailing list..."
[19:14] <inetpro> or RSS feed: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/rss.xml
[19:14] <cal_py> ahhh cool
[19:15] <inetpro> or https://twitter.com/ubuntu_advisory
[19:19] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:19] <inetpro> good night oom Kil[tab]
[19:19] <inetpro> ai!
[19:19] <cal_py> night Kilos
[19:20] <superfly> or Google+ or tech websites (Ars Technica) or Twitter, or any other connection to a bunch of linuxers
[19:21] <cal_py> rock on!