phillwwxl: phillw@piglet:~/Desktop/ISOs$ zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync00:51
phillwfailed on url http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync00:51
phillwcould not read control file from URL http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync00:51
wxlapparently the sync is going slow for everyone00:52
phillwseems cdimage has taken its ball in..00:54
phillw wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-i386.iso00:54
phillw--2016-02-18 01:53:39--  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-i386.iso00:54
phillwResolving cdimage.ubuntu.com..., 2001:67c:1360:8001::1d00:54
phillwConnecting to cdimage.ubuntu.com||:80... connected.00:54
phillwHTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found00:54
phillw2016-02-18 01:53:39 ERROR 404: Not Found.00:54
wxlyep, it's the directory seems to appear and disappear when it syncs00:54
wxlword is you should be good to go phillw01:10
phillwwxl: kk, how the <expletive> do restart network under 14.04 ?01:10
phillwdoes it use the init.d system?01:11
wxlphillw: yep01:26
phillwit bitched, I used init 6 :P01:26
wxlwell i'll say this, systemd on trusty is a bad thing, as Unit193 will attest01:27
phillwvirt11 can see the world!!!01:32
ianorlingah my power went out01:34
wxlwe have some issues with out gutter and window :(01:35
ianorlinfirst time it came down during an install of a vm01:37
wxlwere you installing a power pc vm?01:37
phillwianorlin: ouch, they do not like that!!!01:37
wxlHAH I"M SO FUNNY!01:37
ianorlinno AMD 6401:37
Unit193wxl: Eh?01:54
phillwwxl: all 8 tests for intel done and passed http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/356/builds you'll have to prod one of the ppc guys to have a check of that architecture... This little piggy is off to bed (~ 03:30 AM here)03:25
wxlthanks to all who tested15:03
wxldid anyone, by chance, check to see if old bugs are still relevant? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu15:06
phillwwxl: I was going to 'roll' with the 'known bugs list' from ubuntu themselves.15:42
phillwwxl: found it !! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.315:46
phillwthere will be a 14.04.4 page made by them :)15:46
phillwThere are no lubuntu specific bugs15:48
redwolfwhen you finish, will I have content for the blog?16:39
phillwredwolf: as part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu It will be a repeat of 14.04.3 section, just pointing to the new 14.04.4 section that 'main' do .16:40
redwolfI wait for it to be finished then16:41
phillwredwolf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Notes_for_Point_Release16:41
phillwThis is the 1st appearance of 'point release' on that section. So it will be a learning one.16:42
phillwredwolf: oooh, good time for the wiki system to decide to go '500 Error' .. :/16:46
phillwnad.. it's back :)17:02
phillwunlike my typing :P17:02
phillwwxl: when do they expect release?17:05
* phillw I KNEW I'd done it.... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu has the 14.04.4 section there, just commented out :)17:23
redwolfLTS? really?17:24
phillwredwolf: yeah, instead of a +1 page, I added in the new stuff, but left it commented out :)17:31
phillwI have ammended the Pre-Post instructions to take account of this :)17:32
phillwthe GetLTS page is a new page, as it has all new links to cdimage etc.17:32
phillwwxl: as we have an image for ppc 14.04.4, I've updated the GetLTS+1 page to reflect this.17:33
redwolfif there're changes I'll have to modify the lubuntu.me ones too17:35
phillwredwolf: previously, the ppc stopped at 14.04.2, there was not a 14.04.3 release.17:36
phillwredwolf: if you need the links as I have them prepared, hop onto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS+117:37
redwolfI saw that, yes. and alternates keep at 14.04.117:37
phillwyes, there was a change in build method that broke them :)17:37
redwolfso, only desktop ISOs17:37
phillwYes, since 14.04.117:38
redwolfokies, I'm doing the changes now, and we'll prepare the post later17:38
phillwI've got this all to again next week!!!!17:38
redwolfno ISOs yet there ;)17:41
redwolfexpect time of "cooking"?17:42
phillwredwolf: I asked wxl last I looked, we were waiting for kubuntu :)17:42
phillwredwolf: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/356/builds17:43
phillwand a couple of other stragglers :)17:43
redwolfI don't want to change the links until they're physically there. we have 600+ daily visits. I don't want hundreds of "hey! there's no ISO in the blog!"17:43
phillwNo, you do not get brownie points for sending people to the iso-tracker to grab ISO's... OMGUbuntu have been guilty of that in the past - and even I've taken them to task over screwing up (slowing down) the mirroring of the official ISO's and said they were guilty of a spam attack on the iso-server system as it tried to update the mirrors around the world.17:46
phillwI have a nice turn of phrase when needed :P17:46
phillwActually, while we wait.... I'll grab the iso's onto phillw.net mirror :)17:47
wxlok i'm finally here everyone18:00
tewardwxl: LATE18:01
wxlshuttup teward you're not the boss of me18:01
wxlwe release already?18:01
tewardwell, i'm skipping classes today to relax, so i'm not one to talk ;)  you have a ping elsewhere though18:02
wxli saw phillw blowing me up as well as a locoteam cc catchup i must have apparently missed :(18:02
tewardthat's not why I sent you a PM or another ping ;)18:03
wxlit came in between coming back and going away18:04
wxlugh i hate that18:04
wxlum phillw where's our draft page?18:23
phillwwxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Notes_for_Point_Release18:31
phillwexactly where they are supposed to be :)18:31
wxlcomments, duh18:31
wxlthanks phillw  you're a life saver18:31
wxlredwolf: i am on both channels, you know? :)18:32
phillwwxl: it is not a new release, it is adding on to the life story of an LTS. IMHO, people should be able to read the history :)18:32
phillwwxl: my major headache is the 16.04 arriving along side....18:33
redwolfshit, I can't talk shit without you listening to it! :P18:33
phillwI think I'll just pop it at the top, with a quick link to 14.0418:33
wxl!language redwolf18:33
ubot93wxl: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:33
wxl!language| redwolf18:33
ubot93redwolf: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList18:33
* wxl pets redwolf 18:33
wxlphillw: yeah it's going to be a pain for sure.18:34
phillwI'll have a thunk and draft something up. wxl will there be a 14.04.5 ? or is the .4 release the last one for an LTS>18:34
wxlyes there will be more phillw18:35
wxllet me finish this sso and i'll get the details18:35
phillwwxl: okies... no rush, I've dinner to finish off and eat :)18:39
wxlredwolf: you all ready to announce our new point release? today's the day18:53
redwolfbut I need the final links first18:54
wxlrelease notes (thanks to phillw) are all ready to go with a wee tweak by me18:54
wxli'm just waiting on the ok from release team18:54
wxlthey're going a wee bit slow today it seems18:55
redwolfdamn! I lost 14 users of FB. I pressed the Accept button but they're not in the group. this is the 3rd glitch like this I find18:55
redwolfI'll post their names as usual but asking for their collaboration to re-jin18:56
wxldo you intend to take care of the mailing lists, too, or shall i?18:57
redwolfsorry, I can't18:58
redwolfI need to prepare social things too18:58
redwolfcan you do that?18:58
wxlok i'll do that18:58
wxlblog, you got, i'm assuming too18:58
wxlmight want to do that and just link to it18:58
wxlfor all the other social shit18:58
wxli'll take care of lxde mailing list too18:59
redwolfthe blog must be modified (links to ISOs and torrent) and needs a post about the release18:59
wxllinks here should be right https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS+118:59
redwolfbut this is still empty: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/trusty/release/18:59
wxlnot that there are NO ALTERNATES18:59
wxlyeah it'll get changed18:59
redwolfnor there18:59
wxlthere's also no amd64+mac version18:59
redwolfI know, alternates remain .1 and mac one19:00
redwolfonly desktop19:00
redwolfbut still no links19:00
wxlthis is how we did it for 14.04.2-319:00
wxljust wanted to remind you :)19:00
redwolfTHAT is the right place, new images should appear there in a few hours19:00
wxlright exactly19:00
redwolfand I can't re-link yet19:00
wxlthere's not a lot of stuff to report from the lubuntu end of things19:01
redwolfto avoid hundreds of user's messages19:01
redwolfI know :)19:01
redwolfbut it deserves commenting at least19:01
wxlhere's all the ubuntu fixes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.419:01
redwolfand I WON'T mention the LTS one19:02
redwolfmaybe MTS (mid-term support) LOL19:02
redwolf14.04 is not a real LTS, only the core components19:02
wxllots of kernel fixes19:03
redwolfand tones of them for lightdm19:03
wxloh and there will be one more point release left19:03
wxlas is the plan with lts from here on out19:03
wxltotal of 519:03
redwolfthat's a lot of them!19:04
wxlyeah well precise did the same thing19:04
wxlthere's now bash-completion for the new apt (not apt-whatever) command19:04
wxlthat's cool19:04
wxlever since tsimonq2 showed me apt, i've been using the hell out of it19:04
redwolfgood, because I hate zsh autocompletion19:04
wxlcouple apport fixes. maybe it won't hog up my cpu next time :/19:05
redwolfoh sorry, I'm not supposed to admit I use the Terminal o__o19:05
tewardthere are many of us though who will swear by apt-get ;019:05
wxllooks like some broadcom fixes19:05
wxlbzr sru19:05
wxllots of little bits to prevent python errors19:06
redwolfomg, and a SUPER important gtk bug fix for the calculator!19:06
wxlwhich is a legitimate concern!19:06
redwolfthat one must be at headlines!19:06
wxlsome people care XD19:06
redwolfI do care! :D19:06
wxlbc -l ftw19:06
wxlsystemd fixes?!19:07
wxli thought systemd in trusty was a no-no19:07
wxlthat sequence is funny19:08
redwolfthey look like draq queens names19:08
redwolf"valgrind, whoopsie..."19:08
* phillw fed :D19:45
phillwredwolf: you must go into members and select 'by date joined'. I don't even bother with the other one.19:46
phillwredwolf: open it as a 2nd tab and then c+p accross19:46
phillwwxl: I see nothing on the ReleaseSchedule for that.... Mind you, it seems 16.04 has a 9 month support plan with no dates set for point releases. Is this part of ubuntu moving towards a rolling release?19:49
redwolfphillw, I already did that19:53
phillwredwolf: at best, I see maybe 6 out of 15 joined.... So, I just use that method all the time.19:55
redwolfnot bad19:55
phillwwxl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1347345 unless Julien makes a real push to have it included into the build set, this is a won't fix.20:06
ubot93Launchpad bug 1347345 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "lubuntu/trusty/i386 missing btrfs-tools and hence fails to create btrfs filesystem" [High,Triaged]20:06
phillwwxl: "btrfs-tools is not seeded on lubuntu desktop 32bit "20:07
wxlyay server pass worked20:48
wxlphillw: for some reason, release team is a little slow on the uptake with updating the schedule for the release updates. you'll notice i did the last one!!!20:48
wxls/release/point release/20:48
phillwwxl: I did see your name :) Once a wiki editor, always a wiki editor... Before I start to edit, I check to see who and when it was last updated....20:49
phillwwxl: also there is an email out in the wild for manual.20:50
phillwthe DNS stuff with us has a proposed solution, but I DID promise J1213+20:50
phillwJasonO his VM as we all sort of hijacked virt10, and virt11 is to take 'clean' stuff such as lubuntu.me and mediawiki over to it.20:51
phillwWell, the wiki page HAS to be called LTS... So it will be as I envisioned, a split for 16.04 and 14.04 at the point where people land on the page, unless pointed to #16.04 or #14.0420:53
wxlyeah i think that makes sense re: LTS phillw20:55
tsimonq2wxl: heheheh this is what happens when you RTFM! XD20:55
redwolfnews, wxl?20:55
tsimonq2wxl: also, thank Kamilion for showing me that :D20:55
wxlphillw: we have someone who stepped up with interest in helping docs, if that's what you mean.20:55
phillwwxl: I reckon that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Notes_for_Point_Release can now handle things, as I've edited it to be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/full_name-of_release/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu20:56
phillwThat should stop 14.04 tripping up over 16.04 etc20:57
wxlthanks for babysitting the wiki, phillw20:58
phillwwxl: I spend my life so doing... Permission to speak freely?20:58
wxlphillw: indeed20:59
phillwwxl: the TL of wikidocs  only ever has one person to help... All the people who sign up, actually never do any work. It is that reason why we lose TL's .. they get fed up of having a one way conversation with the the baby-sitter. This is a rather damning indictment on lubuntu, as with no docs and no wiki .. lubuntu would cease to exist. The people who have, over the years, taken on that role never had a 'team' to lead.21:02
wxlphillw: i agree. and that's why i asked for ANYONE who wants to help.21:02
phillwAs you are are now babysitter, I wish you all the very best. I will still wiki edit as asked. But, one thing that could be easily split...21:03
phillwwxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO actually belongs to the devel team. Tutorials etc. belong to wikidocs team.21:05
phillwI've busted a gut, several times in setting up that area... it is time the devel team took ownership of it.21:06
wxl'tis true21:07
phillwIf we are to have a prayer of a new wiki area and manual, that team must be released from that burden.21:07
wxltime to go live folks21:40
wxlphillw: can you edit LTS+1? it's immutable to me which means i can't even copy it21:43
phillwwxl: on it21:43
wxlphillw: raf was going to take care of the social media bits, but now he's disappeared21:47
wxlphillw: nevermind i found raf21:48
redwolfI see the links21:48
wxlphillw: i'm having canonical IS look into getting privs to edit21:49
phillwwxl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS21:51
phillwnow exists21:51
phillwit would not allow a delete and rename....21:52
phillwso, it was c+p ...21:52
wxlok great thanks phillw21:52
phillwold dirty trick taught me when i was in short trousers as a wiki editor :P21:52
redwolflinks for amd4, i386 and powerpc changed: http://lubuntu.me/downloads/21:53
phillwredwolf: good21:54
redwolfwhat should I post now?21:54
phillwwxl: also the mirror area was set up about 2 hours ago, but you'd have to be severe nerd to go find it :)21:54
phillwredwolf: use your imagination ... "the .4 step release of the 14.04 LTS has been released ....." then what ever you want from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu :)21:56
wxlapparently ACL on LTS+1 is set on the page itself. if you have edit privs, could you hand it to me, phillw ?21:56
redwolfall right21:56
phillwwxl: I'll delete the page. I only created it a while back, maybe during the spam attacks and it got locked down.21:57
phillwwxl: can you confirm that the links on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS are the correct ones before i nuke the +1 page?21:59
wxlphillw: a quick look confirms yes21:59
phillwredwolf: the list is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Use_press_announcement-122:00
phillwnot sure where the -1 came from !22:00
phillwwxl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS+1 should show as deleted22:02
phillwredwolf: evidently, if you wish to titillate your readers, there will be a .5 release before 14.04 drops into the coffin, but you will need to ask wxl about that.....22:04
redwolfbetter not risk about that, the news about a .4 spin is enough22:05
wxli just know the PLAN :)22:05
redwolfphillw, are you doing FB?22:05
phillwredwolf: I'm doing "You took a fine time to go for WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ... as am cross legged!!!!22:06
phillwredwolf: do you have a statement for me to c+p the Fb and g+ ?22:12
phillwwxl: you need to edit the topic :)22:13
redwolfI just used that text: http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-14-04-4-released/22:13
phillwredwolf: have you done fb and g+ ?22:14
redwolfI'm on it. please, do g+22:14
wxlmailing lists are done22:15
wxlThe [release notes][1], which cover the latest update as well as the whole22:15
wxlhistory of the release, includes a download link at the bottom. I'm not22:15
wxlgoing to link it because you should read the notes first! :)22:15
tewardwxl: um...22:17
teward[2016-02-18 17:16:44] <tsimonq2> wxl: ping, urgent, "Finally, a friendly reminder that the NEW LTS, Xenial Xerus 16.04, is due in seven days. So please keep on making Lubuntu better!"22:17
teward^ not sure if that's accurate22:17
* teward isn't on that list :)22:17
tsimonq2wxl: final little mini-paragraph22:17
tsimonq2wxl: it says that release date is in 7 days22:17
tewardconfirmed typo22:18
tewardhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2016-February/000203.html - last lines before the link line22:18
tsimonq2I'll send something in 10 minutes if wxl doesn't so Softpedia doesn't get any ideas XD22:19
phillwg+ done22:20
wxlwhy is that a typo?22:20
wxlBETA 222:20
wxlyeah if someone wants to reply to it, go for it22:21
wxli'm too tired to bother with it22:21
* tsimonq2 scrambles and does it22:21
wxlor beta 1 whatveer22:21
wxlstill, something related to it is due in 7 days22:22
wxlclose enough22:22
redwolffb done22:22
phillwwxl: by then you will have someone to all the wiki notes, yes? :D :D ..... I thought not :( :P22:22
phillwlet me catch up with redwolf as to the status of lubuntu.me which is to be on a server with 99.9% up time.22:24
tsimonq2wxl: sent22:24
redwolftwitter and reddit done22:27
LStrangerwxl, saw your announce in the ML :)22:38
LStrangerhave you received my mail, BTW?22:38
wxlLStranger: yes i did. didn't have a chance to do anything last night but will today for sure22:39
LStrangeroh, thank you.22:40
wxlLStranger: no, thank you!22:40
LStrangerI wish I could manage my time better... then more issues would be fixed and more features would be implemented. :)22:46

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