[00:51] <phillw> wxl: phillw@piglet:~/Desktop/ISOs$ zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[00:51] <phillw> failed on url http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[00:51] <phillw> could not read control file from URL http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[00:52] <wxl> yep
[00:52] <wxl> apparently the sync is going slow for everyone
[00:52] <phillw> kk
[00:54] <phillw> seems cdimage has taken its ball in..
[00:54] <phillw>  wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-i386.iso
[00:54] <phillw> --2016-02-18 01:53:39--  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-i386.iso
[00:54] <phillw> Resolving cdimage.ubuntu.com... 91.189.88.39, 2001:67c:1360:8001::1d
[00:54] <phillw> Connecting to cdimage.ubuntu.com|91.189.88.39|:80... connected.
[00:54] <phillw> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[00:54] <phillw> 2016-02-18 01:53:39 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[00:54] <wxl> yep, it's the directory seems to appear and disappear when it syncs
[01:10] <wxl> word is you should be good to go phillw
[01:10] <phillw> wxl: kk, how the <expletive> do restart network under 14.04 ?
[01:11] <phillw> does it use the init.d system?
[01:26] <wxl> phillw: yep
[01:26] <phillw> it bitched, I used init 6 :P
[01:27] <wxl> well i'll say this, systemd on trusty is a bad thing, as Unit193 will attest
[01:32] <phillw> virt11 can see the world!!!
[01:34] <ianorlin> gah my power went out
[01:35] <wxl> we have some issues with out gutter and window :(
[01:37] <ianorlin> first time it came down during an install of a vm
[01:37] <wxl> were you installing a power pc vm?
[01:37] <phillw> ianorlin: ouch, they do not like that!!!
[01:37] <wxl> HAH I"M SO FUNNY!
[01:37] <ianorlin> no AMD 64
[01:54] <Unit193> wxl: Eh?
[03:25] <phillw> wxl: all 8 tests for intel done and passed http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/356/builds you'll have to prod one of the ppc guys to have a check of that architecture... This little piggy is off to bed (~ 03:30 AM here)
[15:03] <wxl> thanks to all who tested
[15:06] <wxl> did anyone, by chance, check to see if old bugs are still relevant? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu
[15:42] <phillw> wxl: I was going to 'roll' with the 'known bugs list' from ubuntu themselves.
[15:46] <phillw> wxl: found it !! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.3
[15:46] <phillw> there will be a 14.04.4 page made by them :)
[15:48] <phillw> There are no lubuntu specific bugs
[16:39] <redwolf> when you finish, will I have content for the blog?
[16:40] <phillw> redwolf: as part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu It will be a repeat of 14.04.3 section, just pointing to the new 14.04.4 section that 'main' do .
[16:41] <redwolf> I wait for it to be finished then
[16:41] <phillw> redwolf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Notes_for_Point_Release
[16:42] <phillw> This is the 1st appearance of 'point release' on that section. So it will be a learning one.
[16:42] <redwolf> mhm
[16:46] <phillw> redwolf: oooh, good time for the wiki system to decide to go '500 Error' .. :/
[16:56] <redwolf> O.O
[17:02] <phillw> nad.. it's back :)
[17:02] <phillw> and
[17:02] <phillw> unlike my typing :P
[17:05] <phillw> wxl: when do they expect release?
[17:23]  * phillw I KNEW I'd done it.... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu has the 14.04.4 section there, just commented out :)
[17:24] <redwolf> LTS? really?
[17:31] <phillw> redwolf: yeah, instead of a +1 page, I added in the new stuff, but left it commented out :)
[17:32] <phillw> I have ammended the Pre-Post instructions to take account of this :)
[17:32] <redwolf> okay
[17:32] <phillw> the GetLTS page is a new page, as it has all new links to cdimage etc.
[17:33] <phillw> wxl: as we have an image for ppc 14.04.4, I've updated the GetLTS+1 page to reflect this.
[17:35] <redwolf> if there're changes I'll have to modify the lubuntu.me ones too
[17:36] <phillw> redwolf: previously, the ppc stopped at 14.04.2, there was not a 14.04.3 release.
[17:37] <phillw> redwolf: if you need the links as I have them prepared, hop onto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS+1
[17:37] <redwolf> I saw that, yes. and alternates keep at 14.04.1
[17:37] <phillw> yes, there was a change in build method that broke them :)
[17:37] <redwolf> so, only desktop ISOs
[17:38] <phillw> Yes, since 14.04.1
[17:38] <redwolf> okies, I'm doing the changes now, and we'll prepare the post later
[17:38] <phillw> I've got this all to again next week!!!!
[17:41] <redwolf> no ISOs yet there ;)
[17:42] <redwolf> expect time of "cooking"?
[17:42] <phillw> redwolf: I asked wxl last I looked, we were waiting for kubuntu :)
[17:42] <redwolf> okies
[17:43] <phillw> redwolf: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/356/builds
[17:43] <phillw> and a couple of other stragglers :)
[17:43] <redwolf> I don't want to change the links until they're physically there. we have 600+ daily visits. I don't want hundreds of "hey! there's no ISO in the blog!"
[17:46] <phillw> No, you do not get brownie points for sending people to the iso-tracker to grab ISO's... OMGUbuntu have been guilty of that in the past - and even I've taken them to task over screwing up (slowing down) the mirroring of the official ISO's and said they were guilty of a spam attack on the iso-server system as it tried to update the mirrors around the world.
[17:46] <phillw> I have a nice turn of phrase when needed :P
[17:47] <phillw> Actually, while we wait.... I'll grab the iso's onto phillw.net mirror :)
[17:50] <redwolf> okies
[18:00] <wxl> ok i'm finally here everyone
[18:01] <teward> wxl: LATE
[18:01] <wxl> shuttup teward you're not the boss of me
[18:01] <wxl> we release already?
[18:02] <teward> well, i'm skipping classes today to relax, so i'm not one to talk ;)  you have a ping elsewhere though
[18:02] <wxl> i saw phillw blowing me up as well as a locoteam cc catchup i must have apparently missed :(
[18:03] <teward> that's not why I sent you a PM or another ping ;)
[18:04] <wxl> it came in between coming back and going away
[18:04] <wxl> ugh i hate that
[18:23] <wxl> um phillw where's our draft page?
[18:31] <phillw> wxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Notes_for_Point_Release
[18:31] <phillw> exactly where they are supposed to be :)
[18:31] <wxl> comments, duh
[18:31] <wxl> thanks phillw  you're a life saver
[18:32] <wxl> redwolf: i am on both channels, you know? :)
[18:32] <phillw> wxl: it is not a new release, it is adding on to the life story of an LTS. IMHO, people should be able to read the history :)
[18:33] <phillw> wxl: my major headache is the 16.04 arriving along side....
[18:33] <redwolf> shit, I can't talk shit without you listening to it! :P
[18:33] <phillw> I think I'll just pop it at the top, with a quick link to 14.04
[18:33] <wxl> !language redwolf
[18:33] <redwolf> O.O
[18:33] <wxl> !language| redwolf
[18:33] <redwolf> crap?
[18:33] <wxl> XD
[18:33]  * wxl pets redwolf 
[18:33] <redwolf> turd?
[18:34] <wxl> phillw: yeah it's going to be a pain for sure.
[18:34] <phillw> I'll have a thunk and draft something up. wxl will there be a 14.04.5 ? or is the .4 release the last one for an LTS>
[18:34] <phillw> s/>/?
[18:35] <wxl> yes there will be more phillw
[18:35] <wxl> let me finish this sso and i'll get the details
[18:39] <phillw> wxl: okies... no rush, I've dinner to finish off and eat :)
[18:53] <wxl> redwolf: you all ready to announce our new point release? today's the day
[18:53] <redwolf> YES!
[18:54] <wxl> k
[18:54] <redwolf> but I need the final links first
[18:54] <wxl> release notes (thanks to phillw) are all ready to go with a wee tweak by me
[18:54] <redwolf> O.O
[18:54] <wxl> i'm just waiting on the ok from release team
[18:55] <wxl> they're going a wee bit slow today it seems
[18:55] <redwolf> damn! I lost 14 users of FB. I pressed the Accept button but they're not in the group. this is the 3rd glitch like this I find
[18:56] <wxl> ugh
[18:56] <redwolf> I'll post their names as usual but asking for their collaboration to re-jin
[18:56] <redwolf> *re-join
[18:57] <wxl> do you intend to take care of the mailing lists, too, or shall i?
[18:58] <redwolf> sorry, I can't
[18:58] <redwolf> I need to prepare social things too
[18:58] <redwolf> can you do that?
[18:58] <wxl> ok i'll do that
[18:58] <wxl> sure
[18:58] <redwolf> ta!
[18:58] <wxl> blog, you got, i'm assuming too
[18:58] <redwolf> aye
[18:58] <wxl> might want to do that and just link to it
[18:58] <wxl> for all the other social shit
[18:59] <wxl> i'll take care of lxde mailing list too
[18:59] <redwolf> the blog must be modified (links to ISOs and torrent) and needs a post about the release
[18:59] <wxl> links here should be right https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS+1
[18:59] <redwolf> but this is still empty: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/trusty/release/
[18:59] <wxl> not that there are NO ALTERNATES
[18:59] <wxl> yeah it'll get changed
[18:59] <redwolf> nor there
[18:59] <wxl> there's also no amd64+mac version
[19:00] <redwolf> I know, alternates remain .1 and mac one
[19:00] <redwolf> only desktop
[19:00] <redwolf> but still no links
[19:00] <wxl> this is how we did it for 14.04.2-3
[19:00] <wxl> just wanted to remind you :)
[19:00] <redwolf> THAT is the right place, new images should appear there in a few hours
[19:00] <wxl> right exactly
[19:00] <redwolf> and I can't re-link yet
[19:01] <wxl> there's not a lot of stuff to report from the lubuntu end of things
[19:01] <redwolf> to avoid hundreds of user's messages
[19:01] <redwolf> I know :)
[19:01] <redwolf> but it deserves commenting at least
[19:01] <wxl> here's all the ubuntu fixes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.4
[19:01] <redwolf> yup
[19:02] <redwolf> and I WON'T mention the LTS one
[19:02] <wxl> hm?
[19:02] <redwolf> maybe MTS (mid-term support) LOL
[19:02] <redwolf> 14.04 is not a real LTS, only the core components
[19:02] <wxl> right
[19:03] <wxl> lots of kernel fixes
[19:03] <redwolf> yer!
[19:03] <redwolf> and tones of them for lightdm
[19:03] <wxl> yep
[19:03] <wxl> oh and there will be one more point release left
[19:03] <wxl> as is the plan with lts from here on out
[19:03] <wxl> total of 5
[19:04] <redwolf> O.O!
[19:04] <redwolf> that's a lot of them!
[19:04] <wxl> yeah well precise did the same thing
[19:04] <wxl> there's now bash-completion for the new apt (not apt-whatever) command
[19:04] <wxl> that's cool
[19:04] <redwolf> :)
[19:04] <wxl> ever since tsimonq2 showed me apt, i've been using the hell out of it
[19:04] <redwolf> good, because I hate zsh autocompletion
[19:05] <wxl> hehehe
[19:05] <wxl> couple apport fixes. maybe it won't hog up my cpu next time :/
[19:05] <redwolf> oh sorry, I'm not supposed to admit I use the Terminal o__o
[19:05] <teward> there are many of us though who will swear by apt-get ;0
[19:05] <wxl> looks like some broadcom fixes
[19:05] <wxl> hm
[19:05] <wxl> bzr sru
[19:06] <wxl> lots of little bits to prevent python errors
[19:06] <redwolf> omg, and a SUPER important gtk bug fix for the calculator!
[19:06] <wxl> which is a legitimate concern!
[19:06] <wxl> heh
[19:06] <redwolf> that one must be at headlines!
[19:06] <wxl> seriously
[19:06] <wxl> some people care XD
[19:06] <redwolf> I do care! :D
[19:06] <wxl> bah
[19:06] <wxl> bc -l ftw
[19:06] <redwolf> O.o
[19:07] <wxl> systemd fixes?!
[19:07] <wxl> i thought systemd in trusty was a no-no
[19:08] <wxl> unzip
[19:08] <wxl> valgrind
[19:08] <wxl> whoopsie
[19:08] <wxl> that sequence is funny
[19:08] <redwolf> o.o
[19:08] <redwolf> they look like draq queens names
[19:08] <wxl> hehehe
[19:08] <redwolf> "valgrind, whoopsie..."
[19:45]  * phillw fed :D
[19:46] <phillw> redwolf: you must go into members and select 'by date joined'. I don't even bother with the other one.
[19:46] <phillw> redwolf: open it as a 2nd tab and then c+p accross
[19:49] <phillw> wxl: I see nothing on the ReleaseSchedule for that.... Mind you, it seems 16.04 has a 9 month support plan with no dates set for point releases. Is this part of ubuntu moving towards a rolling release?
[19:53] <redwolf> phillw, I already did that
[19:55] <phillw> redwolf: at best, I see maybe 6 out of 15 joined.... So, I just use that method all the time.
[19:55] <redwolf> not bad
[20:06] <phillw> wxl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1347345 unless Julien makes a real push to have it included into the build set, this is a won't fix.
[20:07] <phillw> wxl: "btrfs-tools is not seeded on lubuntu desktop 32bit "
[20:48] <wxl> yay server pass worked
[20:48] <wxl> phillw: for some reason, release team is a little slow on the uptake with updating the schedule for the release updates. you'll notice i did the last one!!!
[20:48] <wxl> s/release/point release/
[20:49] <phillw> wxl: I did see your name :) Once a wiki editor, always a wiki editor... Before I start to edit, I check to see who and when it was last updated....
[20:50] <phillw> wxl: also there is an email out in the wild for manual.
[20:50] <phillw> the DNS stuff with us has a proposed solution, but I DID promise J1213+
[20:51] <phillw> JasonO his VM as we all sort of hijacked virt10, and virt11 is to take 'clean' stuff such as lubuntu.me and mediawiki over to it.
[20:53] <phillw> Well, the wiki page HAS to be called LTS... So it will be as I envisioned, a split for 16.04 and 14.04 at the point where people land on the page, unless pointed to #16.04 or #14.04
[20:55] <wxl> yeah i think that makes sense re: LTS phillw
[20:55] <tsimonq2> wxl: heheheh this is what happens when you RTFM! XD
[20:55] <redwolf> *burp*
[20:55] <redwolf> news, wxl?
[20:55] <tsimonq2> wxl: also, thank Kamilion for showing me that :D
[20:55] <tsimonq2> (apt)
[20:55] <wxl> phillw: we have someone who stepped up with interest in helping docs, if that's what you mean.
[20:56] <phillw> wxl: I reckon that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Notes_for_Point_Release can now handle things, as I've edited it to be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/full_name-of_release/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu
[20:57] <phillw> That should stop 14.04 tripping up over 16.04 etc
[20:58] <wxl> thanks for babysitting the wiki, phillw
[20:58] <phillw> wxl: I spend my life so doing... Permission to speak freely?
[20:59] <wxl> phillw: indeed
[21:02] <phillw> wxl: the TL of wikidocs  only ever has one person to help... All the people who sign up, actually never do any work. It is that reason why we lose TL's .. they get fed up of having a one way conversation with the the baby-sitter. This is a rather damning indictment on lubuntu, as with no docs and no wiki .. lubuntu would cease to exist. The people who have, over the years, taken on that role never had a 'team' to lead.
[21:02] <wxl> phillw: i agree. and that's why i asked for ANYONE who wants to help.
[21:03] <phillw> As you are are now babysitter, I wish you all the very best. I will still wiki edit as asked. But, one thing that could be easily split...
[21:05] <phillw> wxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO actually belongs to the devel team. Tutorials etc. belong to wikidocs team.
[21:05] <wxl> right
[21:06] <phillw> I've busted a gut, several times in setting up that area... it is time the devel team took ownership of it.
[21:07] <wxl> 'tis true
[21:07] <phillw> If we are to have a prayer of a new wiki area and manual, that team must be released from that burden.
[21:40] <wxl> time to go live folks
[21:43] <wxl> shit!
[21:43] <wxl> sorry
[21:43] <wxl> phillw: can you edit LTS+1? it's immutable to me which means i can't even copy it
[21:43] <phillw> wxl: on it
[21:47] <wxl> phillw: raf was going to take care of the social media bits, but now he's disappeared
[21:48] <wxl> phillw: nevermind i found raf
[21:48] <redwolf> I see the links
[21:49] <wxl> phillw: i'm having canonical IS look into getting privs to edit
[21:51] <phillw> w
[21:51] <phillw> wxl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS
[21:51] <phillw> now exists
[21:52] <phillw> it would not allow a delete and rename....
[21:52] <wxl> ugh
[21:52] <phillw> so, it was c+p ...
[21:52] <wxl> ok great thanks phillw
[21:52] <phillw> old dirty trick taught me when i was in short trousers as a wiki editor :P
[21:53] <redwolf> links for amd4, i386 and powerpc changed: http://lubuntu.me/downloads/
[21:54] <phillw> redwolf: good
[21:54] <redwolf> what should I post now?
[21:54] <phillw> wxl: also the mirror area was set up about 2 hours ago, but you'd have to be severe nerd to go find it :)
[21:56] <phillw> redwolf: use your imagination ... "the .4 step release of the 14.04 LTS has been released ....." then what ever you want from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu :)
[21:56] <wxl> apparently ACL on LTS+1 is set on the page itself. if you have edit privs, could you hand it to me, phillw ?
[21:56] <redwolf> all right
[21:57] <phillw> wxl: I'll delete the page. I only created it a while back, maybe during the spam attacks and it got locked down.
[21:59] <phillw> wxl: can you confirm that the links on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS are the correct ones before i nuke the +1 page?
[21:59] <wxl> phillw: a quick look confirms yes
[22:00] <phillw> redwolf: the list is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Use_press_announcement-1
[22:00] <redwolf> yup
[22:00] <phillw> not sure where the -1 came from !
[22:02] <phillw> wxl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS+1 should show as deleted
[22:04] <phillw> redwolf: evidently, if you wish to titillate your readers, there will be a .5 release before 14.04 drops into the coffin, but you will need to ask wxl about that.....
[22:05] <redwolf> better not risk about that, the news about a .4 spin is enough
[22:05] <wxl> i just know the PLAN :)
[22:05] <redwolf> phillw, are you doing FB?
[22:06] <phillw> redwolf: I'm doing "You took a fine time to go for WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ... as am cross legged!!!!
[22:06] <redwolf> okies
[22:12] <phillw> redwolf: do you have a statement for me to c+p the Fb and g+ ?
[22:13] <phillw> wxl: you need to edit the topic :)
[22:13] <redwolf> I just used that text: http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-14-04-4-released/
[22:14] <phillw> redwolf: have you done fb and g+ ?
[22:14] <redwolf> I'm on it. please, do g+
[22:14] <phillw> wilco
[22:15] <wxl> mailing lists are done
[22:15] <wxl> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2016-February/010308.html
[22:15] <wxl> The [release notes][1], which cover the latest update as well as the whole
[22:15] <wxl> history of the release, includes a download link at the bottom. I'm not
[22:15] <wxl> going to link it because you should read the notes first! :)
[22:17] <teward> wxl: um...
[22:17] <teward> [2016-02-18 17:16:44] <tsimonq2> wxl: ping, urgent, "Finally, a friendly reminder that the NEW LTS, Xenial Xerus 16.04, is due in seven days. So please keep on making Lubuntu better!"
[22:17] <teward> ^ not sure if that's accurate
[22:17]  * teward isn't on that list :)
[22:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: final little mini-paragraph
[22:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: it says that release date is in 7 days
[22:18] <teward> confirmed typo
[22:18] <teward> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2016-February/000203.html - last lines before the link line
[22:19] <tsimonq2> I'll send something in 10 minutes if wxl doesn't so Softpedia doesn't get any ideas XD
[22:20] <phillw> g+ done
[22:20] <wxl> why is that a typo?
[22:20] <wxl> oh
[22:20] <wxl> BETA 2
[22:21] <wxl> yeah if someone wants to reply to it, go for it
[22:21] <wxl> i'm too tired to bother with it
[22:21]  * tsimonq2 scrambles and does it
[22:21] <wxl> or beta 1 whatveer
[22:22] <wxl> still, something related to it is due in 7 days
[22:22] <wxl> close enough
[22:22] <redwolf> fb done
[22:22] <phillw> wxl: by then you will have someone to all the wiki notes, yes? :D :D ..... I thought not :( :P
[22:24] <phillw> let me catch up with redwolf as to the status of lubuntu.me which is to be on a server with 99.9% up time.
[22:24] <tsimonq2> wxl: sent
[22:27] <redwolf> twitter and reddit done
[22:38] <LStranger> wxl, saw your announce in the ML :)
[22:38] <LStranger> have you received my mail, BTW?
[22:39] <wxl> LStranger: yes i did. didn't have a chance to do anything last night but will today for sure
[22:40] <LStranger> oh, thank you.
[22:40] <wxl> LStranger: no, thank you!
[22:40] <LStranger> :)
[22:46] <LStranger> I wish I could manage my time better... then more issues would be fixed and more features would be implemented. :)