[03:35]  * bregma sadfaces
[03:46]  * bregma gives up and crawls off to watch bugs die
[03:52] <jamesh> well, at least it's not jut your build
[04:01] <robru> bregma: jamesh: apparently scheduled downtime for ppa.launchpad.net so no builds currently possible. not sure when it's back up
[04:01] <robru> #is is handling it
[04:01] <jamesh> okay
[05:00] <robru> bregma: jamesh: should be fixed now if you want to retry
[05:00] <jamesh> thanks
[08:24] <jamesh> so the new sqlite3 upload to xenial-proposed hoses mediascanner :(
[09:00] <popey> jamesh: :(
[09:00] <popey> (although given mediascanner murders my desktop on every boot, I'm in mixed mood about it being broken)
[09:01] <jamesh> popey: I'm working to improve that
[09:01] <popey> (my desktop is completely unusable on boot because all IO is consumed by ms2)
[09:01] <popey> yay
[09:01] <jamesh> It looks like there is a compile #define to get sqlite3 not to break things: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sqlite3/+bug/1546911
[09:02] <jamesh> I'm wondering if thunderbird is also affected, if it is using system sqlite
[09:21] <jamesh> sil2100: the recent sqlite3 upload to xenial-proposed is causing test failures for mediascanner2.  Who should I talk to to get it fixed quickest?
[09:21] <jamesh> this seems to be an automatic sync from Debian by the look of it
[09:22] <sil2100> jamesh: hey! hm, did the ABI change or something?
[09:22] <sil2100> jamesh: usually it's best to poke on -devel, I could try looking into that in the nearest time
[09:22] <jamesh> sil2100: I put what I know in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sqlite3/+bug/1546911
[09:23] <jamesh> sil2100: it seems the new version disables some functionality by default unless you compile with a new #define
[09:23] <sil2100> We'll have to patch it then
[09:23] <sil2100> jamesh: thanks for the bug
[13:39] <ToyKeeper> dobey: Is silo 41 (trust-store, pay-service, ubuntu-system-settings, ubuntu-push) still working for you?  I can't get any Paypal purchases to complete (can't even get far enough to see the Paypal site).
[13:39] <ToyKeeper> dobey: I'm not sure if it needs a rebuild due to sitting idle for too long, or if there's a server issue, or if it's a bug, or something else.
[14:05] <Saviq> trainguards, any idea bout hash sum mismatches ↑ :[
[14:05] <Saviq> shall I just try again
[14:28] <dobey> ToyKeeper: hey. that sounds like a server issue perhaps. or at least, something outside that silo.
[14:28] <sil2100> Saviq: I suppose a retry might help, but I see you're already building it
[14:29] <Saviq> sil2100, yeah, it was the second try, third's time the charm, apparently
[14:31] <Saviq> sil2100, can you cancel https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-010/+build/9032285 for us please, s390x's been getting stuck since yesterday, WG said they'd look into it
[14:31] <Saviq> but we should cancel until then
[14:35] <sil2100> ACK
[14:40] <cjwatson> Saviq,sil2100: don't cancel any more of those unless you really have to please, I'll want a test case shortly :)
[14:40] <sil2100> 2x ACK
[14:40] <sil2100> ;)
[14:40] <Saviq> cjwatson, ack
[15:54] <dobey> hrmm, seems all the servers might be slow or something
[16:13] <rvr> Mirv: ping
[16:14] <Mirv> rvr: pong
[16:14] <rvr> Mirv: Hi, I'm testing silo 23
[16:14] <Mirv> rvr: I pre-see your questions and refer you towards zsombi :)
[16:15] <rvr> Mirv: lol
[16:15] <rvr> zsombi: ping
[16:15] <Mirv> zsombi: ^ tab fencing is in QA testing now
[16:16] <rvr> zsombi: Mirv: I don't quite understand how to test it, can you provide a test case?
[16:18] <zsombi> rvr: you would need a special MR to do that
[16:18] <zsombi> rvr: however, to land it, it is enough to see nothing breaks there
[16:18] <zsombi> rvr: as this only adds a new feature that noone uses
[16:18] <zsombi> yet
[16:19] <rvr> zsombi: I see
[16:20] <zsombi> rvr: so from your point of view, everything should work as usual
[16:20] <Mirv> zsombi: I think he might be interested in how to validated that QQuickItem isn't regressing in any way - which is being touched in code
[16:20] <zsombi> rvr: as no component uses the tab fencing yet, there shouldn't be any difference
[16:21] <zsombi> Mirv: rvr: well, run Qt tests then :D
[16:21] <zsombi> Mirv: rvr: we do not have any test for Qt itself, all you coudl do is to run those they have
[16:22] <rvr> zsombi: Mirv: What did you check to validate the silo, then?
[16:22] <zsombi> rvr: I have a new feature that is an OTA10 bug, and I used that to verify it
[16:23] <zsombi> rvr: you coudl do the same if you like
[16:23] <zsombi> rvr: but that MR cannot be landed without this one
[16:23] <rvr> zsombi: But this silo is landing alone, and you have marked it as Ready for QA, which means that you have tested it.
[16:24] <rvr> We need to be sure that it doesn't break anything
[16:24] <zsombi> rvr: I just told you how I have tested: took the silo, mplemented the featire with it, and tested with it
[16:25] <zsombi> rvr: you can install the silo separately so you can test it
[16:25] <zsombi> rvr: my MR doesn't even build without this silo
[16:26] <rvr> zsombi: But that's a different type of check. If you are landing this silo, then you should look for regressions.
[16:27] <zsombi> rvr: again, Qt has its own tests, if those do not fail, then we are good
[16:27] <rvr> zsombi: And do they fail or not?
[16:28] <zsombi> rvr: I had not run those, all I did I tested that all other tests pass which were not requiring tab fencing
[16:28] <zsombi> rvr: plus the new feature I had
[16:29] <zsombi> rvr: have you ever asked Mirv whether he ran all Qt tests? becaus ethat woudl be the only and best way to say there's no regression there
[16:32] <Mirv> zsombi: rvr: unit tests pass since they pass as part of the build. I didn't detect Autopilot regressions either.
[16:32] <rvr> Mirv: Great
[16:33] <rvr> zsombi: Can you tell me some places where QQuickItem is used?
[16:38] <sil2100> jamesh: hey!
[16:38] <sil2100> jamesh: you around?
[16:45] <zsombi> rvr: everywhere :D
[16:45] <zsombi> rvr: every single QML element is derived from it
[16:46] <zsombi> rvr: and the tab fencing only affects the Tab/Shift+Tab functionality IF is explicitly requested
[16:46] <zsombi> rvr: so if you have an app where the Tab/Shift+Tab is implemented, you will see no difference
[16:46] <rvr> zsombi: Ok, I'll run some sanity tests to look for regressions.
[16:47] <zsombi> rvr: for instance some places in the UI Toolkit gallery do use that
[16:47] <zsombi> rvr: but you need a keyboard to test that, OSK doesn't have these keys
[16:47] <rvr> zsombi: I have
[16:48] <zsombi> rvr: ok so you coudl test te tab/backtab on Toggles page for instance
[18:01] <dobey> ToyKeeper: fwiw, i just used paypal for some other non-ubuntu thing, and it was incredibly slow for me
[18:28] <Saviq> rvr, hey, when you were testing youtube auth on Monday, mardy gave you a patch to make it unstick, right?
[18:30] <rvr> Saviq: Hmmmmm
[18:30] <rvr> Saviq: Right, a one liner
[18:30] <rvr> Saviq: Should be linked in the silo card
[18:31] <Saviq> rvr, ah, going, thanks!
[18:31] <Saviq> rvr, hmm nope https://trello.com/c/ySJM8qql/2765-938-ubuntu-landing-051-unity-api-unity8-qtmir-saviq
[18:31]  * Saviq grabs IRC logs from Monday
[18:32] <rvr> Saviq: I can check in the browser history too
[18:32] <Saviq> found it
[18:32] <Saviq> https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/loading-1544063/+merge/285842
[18:32] <rvr> \o/
[18:34] <rvr> I usually add those tips :-/
[18:50] <dobey> hmm
[19:17] <rvr> zsombi: Mirv: Silo 23 approved
[19:26] <zsombi> rvr: oh, thank you!!!