[11:37] i've been following the process for kdenlive and i get lost in the path debian=>ubuntu=>flavours [11:38] i think i'm unclear on what this feature freeze means. [13:05] hm.. the wiki is weird today [13:08] i seem to have lost editing priviledges... [13:09] probably some maintainances got some werid error messages [13:10] sakrecoer_: page? [13:10] it was all read only yesterday - should be ok now afaik [13:11] well, i'm struggling finding a page i can edit at all :D [13:11] flocculant: so all pages :D [13:11] oh right - well ctrl+r or f5 or whatever :) [13:11] i should have in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Documentation at least... [13:12] oh god [13:12] well.. i tried that, yes, but... not working [13:12] it's all immutable again [13:12] seems so.. [13:14] asked in sysyadmin channel - should be normal *soon* [13:26] :) [13:26] thanks flocculant [14:00] \o/ flocculant [14:00] back to normal [15:16] Zak har ju varit art lead och har gjort ett väldigt fint jobb med design osv. Men, han är lite speciell, alltså [15:16] Oops [16:30] zequence, on other news, did you check the website updates yet? [16:34] knome: No, I haven't. I will probably not do that so much until some time after FF [16:35] But, I will come back to it. We are working on a unified design for our artwork, so some of that will be implemented there, I'm sure [16:35] fair enough [16:35] i've got interest from other teams and people now too, and they seem to be happy with it (so not so many bugs at this point) [16:36] i hope to get this moving forward this month [16:36] ok, sounds good [16:37] I'm pretty happy with the latest version I tried, so should be fine [16:37] yep, good [16:38] and pushing the theme to production does not mean it can't get any updates; it just means it will be considerably slower [18:30] OvenWerks: Thanks for giving 386 a spin. That saved me some time [18:30] I have marked the ISOs for studio as ready after a quick smoke test on amd64 [19:45] knome: I realy like the look so far! what i'm concerned about is the feature tour [19:48] knome: blogroll in wikiformat is good for documentation and news, but if it is possible to break out of the format for the feature-tour, i think it would be very sweet [19:48] maybe the feature tour could be subdomain: xenial.ubuntustudio.org which lands on feature tour and leadsback to ubuntustdio.org [19:49] i'm just spinning ideas [19:49] i'm not sure i know how to help you; i don't know what you are looking for from the feature tour, so i can't support doing that [19:49] with a subdomain we can have static html5 site for displaying sexy creative suit [19:50] ..without bothering our good wordpress engine with funky modules [19:50] sure, if you want to maintain that subdomain separately [19:50] remember, if it's within canonical hosting, all file changes go through IS [19:50] knome: then the "feature-tour" link on frontpage would only need to be updated for current release subdomain. [19:51] knome: mini html sites are easy to back up also [19:51] i'm not disagreeing [19:52] if you want something completely different, it's likely best to do so [19:52] knome: right, through IS, that would imply submiting request in good time [19:52] yes [19:53] you are more experienced in me with the time-frames :) knome, what do you reckon? is it making things easier or more complicated? [19:54] knome: perhaps you have a module-magic ace in your sleave, designed for sexy feature tour? :) [19:54] whenever you bring in another person/team that is responsible for anything, it's always more prone for errors and slows the progress down (not only with IS) [19:54] not that the website is not sexy, missunderstand me right [19:55] again, it really depends what you are looking for [19:55] i can support *some* features from within the theme reasonably [19:55] outside that, you'll likely want to set up something else, whether it was a minisite outside wordpress or something different [19:56] i mean i don't think it's very sensible to try to fit something very dynamic in nature into a wordpress plugin [19:56] (or theme) [19:56] too much modularity means the plugin/theme will just get bloated and doesn't really serve any purpose well [19:57] that is why html5 minisites are great [19:57] the aim of the theme i'm building is to offer an easy way to get a good-looking theme with an integrated look set up [19:57] sure, but then it means you will need to edit the files anyway [19:57] whether it was somehow from within wordpress or directly [19:57] not if it is not ment to be edited [19:57] IS won't allow forms which directly allow you to edit files on the filesystem [19:57] i'm talking about the feature tour [19:57] me too [19:58] yeah, but i'm not talking about editing them [19:58] i'm talking about having a static site [19:58] i'm talking about editing them in the sense that when you create anything, it's editing [19:58] and tbh, you *will* end up wanting changes to your static site [19:58] trust me [19:58] so you want to account for that [19:59] or you can get a server set up somewhere else and ask IS to point a subdomain there [19:59] i understand :) [19:59] they can do that too [19:59] oh.. [19:59] but then you're obviously responsible for maintaining that server [19:59] hehe [20:00] we have several xubuntu.org subdomains pointed at a server we set up some time ago [20:01] hm, i have to ask my budy, but i might be able to host such thing for a few years [20:01] i'll have to think about this [20:02] thanks for informing me knome [20:02] no problem [20:02] generally, the IS is willing to do "anything" for you; as long as you don't ask for silly things [20:02] cool [20:02] and some requests might take time [20:02] but subdomain redirection isn't a problem [20:03] :) but hosting it longterm is :) [20:04] unless of course, we go thou IS each time [20:04] but that, like you say imply slower process, and reduce editing possibility to ~0 [20:05] hehe, so it would be publishing a website, like publishing a newspaper: better not have a typo, cuz there ain't no undo [20:06] pretty much so [20:06] that's why putting the content within wordpress makes sense [20:06] because at least you have control over the content [20:06] one thing we also do, which you might be interested of or not [20:07] on the main website, we link to a css file that is on the subdomain we control ourself [20:07] which means we have access to fix critical CSS issues when we need [20:07] and do some other updates [20:07] of course we then try to push them to the main server ASAP, but this leaves us some breathing space [20:08] MAYBE with something like that you could almost set up the minisites even with wordpress as the backend [20:11] knome: interesting [20:11] knome: altho i'm open to work with the wordpress, magic can be made with images [20:12] how would you go about for a feature tour on this wordpress theme? [20:12] obviously there would be a post about the features, [20:12] currently, it supports no thrills [20:12] so you would have to tell me what you are looking for [20:13] i'm thinking about site like these: http://ardour.org/ [20:13] this one is funy (music on pageload, music is funy) http://cinelerra.org/2015/ [20:13] ardour is way simpler, perhaps that is possible to achive in a wordpress post [20:14] displaying only the post, and have it nicely layed out with good pictures [20:14] on the ardour site, there's nothing you can't do with the theme except the sections that have a different color background that spans to the edge of the page [20:14] ...though you can modify the theme to allow to do that [20:16] the cinelerra site just looks weird to me [20:16] they did parallax scrolling, which would be hard to do within a wordpress theme that didn't specifically support that [20:16] bbl [20:16] ok :) [20:18] knome: i'm thinking more fullframe imagery, Title fonts and flash rubricus. website-content gets to background. in the feature tour the main menu is about the feature, the rest of the space is for sexy feature display [20:19] fullframe image with sweet titling, minimal but effective i think [21:38] sakrecoer_: remember also that xubuntu has more people helping to begin with. (it doesn't take many people to make it double)