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MooDoomorning all06:33
mappshi all06:48
MooDoohowy06:50
diploMorning all08:04
MooDoohello diplo08:11
diploHow are we this fine fresh Friday morning08:18
MooDoodoing ok thanks08:29
MooDoogetting my kids used to ubuntu gnome :)08:29
diplohah good work, not used Gnome3 still yet, my kids use my ubuntu machines and soon what ever runs on raspbian ( lxfce? )08:34
sebsebsebpopey: ping08:46
MooDoodiplo: yes might reinstall ubuntu standard as I believe in the next LTS release, you can move the unity bar to the bottom08:58
popeysebsebseb: pong09:00
popeyGood morning09:00
sebsebsebpopey: morning09:01
sebsebsebpopey: I hope there won't be any rushy you must pre order now for the Meizu Pro 5 if you want one, or they may all go out of stock for ages soon, since the fan boys got them.  I mean I might get one, but the MX 4 is good :) etc.  Tablet  will be more interesting :)09:02
* sebsebseb will not have money to buy any expensive devices next week that's for sure09:03
sebsebsebapparnatly pre orders for Meizu whilst Mobile World09:03
sebsebsebpopey: how's the progress of running classic Desktop LInux apps going?  I know ideally want people using native apps actaully made for Ubuntu Touch.09:05
sebsebsebClassic software I meant above even not apps09:05
davmor2Morning all TFI Friday09:05
sebsebsebdavmor2: TFI  ???09:06
davmor2if you don't know, you are too young to know and don't need to know ;)09:07
sebsebsebdavmor2: I think I have seen that before some where09:07
sebsebsebbut forgot what it was09:07
sebsebsebif so09:07
davmor2sebsebseb: the goal is not to run classic software the goal is to run software and that is going amazingly well thanks, oh unless you need a keyboard on the move09:08
sebsebsebwhat's going amazingly well09:09
sebsebsebdavmor2: as I put above I know the goal isn't to run lots of classic software really,  but instead native apps ,  but one of the cool interesting things will be how can run most Desktop LInux software on there :) the classic stuff09:09
sebsebsebor I well hope so assume so :)09:09
sebsebsebif it works well enough or not that's something else09:09
sebsebsebcorenominal: oh your an Ubuntu member since when?09:10
corenominalsebsebseb a good few years ago, not a member any more09:11
sebsebsebstll got the cloack though :d09:12
corenominalyup09:12
sebsebsebI had FSF one for a while after, but then lost it when I lost my nick since hadn't logged in properly for months09:12
davmor2sebsebseb: you miss understand, The goal for unity8 is to run software fullstop there is no native versus classic it is all just software, the only difference will be how well it converges and how well it works with touch but that is not unity8 goal, unity8 goal is to just make it work09:13
MooDoomorning davmor2 :)09:14
sebsebsebdavmor2: yeah I guess, it's software regardless, but it's about having it working in the diffenret modes well enough ideally09:16
davmor2sebsebseb: again nothing to do with us we don't control it09:16
sebsebsebdavmor2: who is us?09:16
davmor2sebsebseb: canonical, ubuntu community09:17
sebsebsebI know that some programs like FIrefox got changed slihglty to work better with convergence or work properly enough with it09:17
sebsebseb,but in general most programs like that won't get changed it seems09:17
sebsebsebdavmor2: Do you think Ubuntu devices, might actsaully get out there, and go sort of main stremae, or be more known about at least in general like that?09:19
davmor2sebsebseb: not yet, there is the whole transition to snappy to happen once that happens and there is one code base that everyone can get behind then it might09:21
sebsebsebdavmor2: well indeed not yet, convrgence, snappy stuff like that, but after those things.  you think it might?09:22
davmor2sebsebseb: then it will.09:22
sebsebsebyeah hopefuolly I guess, need a proper good Linux player09:22
sebsebseband  Tizen isn't really it I guess, but here's the thing.  I found out yesterday when someone showed me.  that PC World  actually sold a Tizen  smart watch hmm09:23
sebsebsebbut well I supouse it's samsung and just an expensive watch so09:24
sebsebsebso PC World decided to09:24
sebsebsebSamsung  is a big brand though.  Uuntu  will need branded comapnies to get it out there when it's time, but apparnatly there already are some with interest09:25
sebsebsebdavmor2: which branded manufactures, do you think might sell Ubuntu devices, when it's time?09:25
popeyall of them :)09:28
sebsebsebpopey: heh you wish :d09:28
sebsebsebpopey: heh you probably have more of an idea who it will actully be, but can't just tell us that, or may get in trouble with your bosses heh09:29
sebsebsebpopey: so I found this nice photo of the Ubuntu Touch team earlier, in it, withy ou in it, michal etc heh09:31
popeyindeed09:36
popeyhttp://www.cio.com/article/3034393/linux/ubuntu-on-mobile-how-shuttleworth-and-team-are-forging-ahead.html that one?09:36
sebsebsebpopey: yep09:45
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Friday, and happy Caregivers Day! 😃10:00
davmor2JamesTait: I'm tempted by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAi3VTSdTxU but I think I'll go with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x8zBzxCwsM and this to all those who give care https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkq7WZTzkLQ10:19
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.10:32
MooDoomorning10:34
brobostigonmorning MooDoo10:34
* zmoylan-pi tries out my new microwave egg boiler...10:36
* JamesTait nominates davmor2 for random music trivia quizzes.10:41
davmor2JamesTait: awwwww shucks you shouldn't of.....no really you shouldn't of I haven't got time for quizzes ;)10:43
zmoylan-pisome sort of quiz app for the long boring commutes...10:48
brobostigonquizup style?10:50
MooDoooh restoring from backup [usb2] sucks :)10:51
davmor2zmoylan-pi: yes because the commute from the breakfast table down stair to my office upstairs take sooooo loooooooong10:51
davmor2oh wait no it doesn't10:52
MooDoodavmor2: so you work from home, stop showing off ;)10:52
zmoylan-pithe christmas office party is legendary... :-)10:52
popeyI worked from my bed yesterday morning. Had the forethought to take my laptop to bed. Got up in the morning, open laptop :)10:53
MooDoooh the joys of working for canonical :)10:53
davmor2zmoylan-pi: what christmas party, look I had one drink and then the next thing people were wishing me happy new year10:53
zmoylan-pithen were did the traffic cone come from...10:53
davmor2popey: I'm glad you had no hangouts then :)10:54
popeyyea!10:54
MooDoooooo support manager job @ canonical10:55
popeyoooh10:56
MooDooyeah just what I though10:56
davmor2popey: you already got a job, let someone else apply ;)10:56
MooDooyeah b****** off ;)10:57
davmor2MooDoo: no no the series is Breaking Bad not off10:57
popeyhah10:57
MooDoolol well it's certainly one job I could do :)10:58
MooDoops davmor2 ow am ya?11:01
davmor2tired but good thanks, 'ow am ya too?11:02
MooDoodavmor2: yeah good thanks, get to leave work early today...nice start to the weekend :)11:02
davmor2MooDoo: and you thought we were showing off because of the commute pffff11:03
MooDoodavmor2: lol I started at 6 this morning and have 30 mins in the bank so finish at 1:15 :)11:04
MooDoogoing home to look at building a new storage server11:04
davmor2MooDoo: oh get you and all your fancy smancy la-di-da ways next you'll be drinking tea with your little finger sticking out, I'm not jealous honest much git11:06
MooDoodavmor2: well I have a WD mycloud, which does it's job, but it's not sexy is it....when I can build a much bigger and better box11:07
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)11:44
popeyyo11:46
MooDoohowdy bigcalm, are you well?11:52
bigcalmHungry11:52
bigcalmTucking into lunch far too early11:52
* zmoylan-pi sorts nice chicken burgers for lunch... well chicken burgers... well tesco chicken burgers... so burgers...12:38
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mappshi;]14:27
MooDoohi mapps14:38
mappswatced 10mins tv this morning and fell right asleep14:39
mappswanted to watch workaholics heh, sup MooDoo14:39
MooDoomapps: finished for the day now, just chilling at home, playing about with my laptop14:43
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MooDooI like the canonucal jobs page, nice n simple15:05
davmor2mapps: well that's never going to be an issue for you if you can't stay awake through 10 minutes of tv is it ;)15:06
davmor2MooDoo: yeah yeah, keep rubbing it in and I'll drive over there and slap you with this feather I just found15:08
davmor2MooDoo: have you had a play with lxd yet?15:08
MooDoodavmor2: no, and don't think I'll be able to at the moment, all three of my servers failed and I don't have anything else I can use at the mmoment, laptop isn't good enough I don't think15:11
davmor2MooDoo: Laptop should be fine15:11
MooDoothen it's something I may get to look at later!15:14
MooDoodavmor2: oh dear i've just done sudo apt-get install lxd ;)15:15
davmor2MooDoo: \o/  it will blow you away dude seriously you won't see vm's the same way anymore :)15:20
MooDoodavmor2: uh hoh sudo lxc-create -t download -n ul15:20
MooDoodavmor2: lots of different os's you can install this for :)15:22
davmor2MooDoo: lots of linux os's you can't install something that requires a different kernel so no bsd or windows but an linux images should work15:24
MooDoodavmor2: just trying it with ubuntu wily amd64 see what happens after that15:25
MooDoodavmor2: getting lost already, this might take me a few mins :D15:27
davmor2MooDoo: think of it as a fun weekend :)15:28
davmor2MooDoo: wouldn't want you to get bored :)15:29
MooDoodavmor2: so i've got a succesfull container, but i don't know how to access it, lxc-attach doesn't know about it lol15:29
MooDoodamn you15:30
MooDoodamn ah hah ;)15:33
MooDoodavmor2: getting it :)15:33
davmor2MooDoo: \o/15:33
diddledanamerica has nutters in important positions: https://boingboing.net/2016/02/19/texas-mayor-claims-obama-worke.html15:33
diddledanand then of course there's john mcaffee: http://arstechnica.com/staff/2016/02/mcafee-will-break-iphone-crypto-for-fbi-in-3-weeks-or-eat-shoe-on-live-tv/?utm_content=buffer935c9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer15:34
zmoylan-1ithe fbi will find a get smart phone shoe for him to eat... :-)15:35
=== zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi
MooDoodavmor2: holy crap mate, this is brilliant!!!!15:37
davmor2MooDoo: I told you, ages ago you would like it15:42
MooDoowell i've just created a container, booted it, attached to it, installed a new user and openssh-server and bloody hell it's like two mins to setup another server15:43
diploWhats the difference between lxd and vagrant ?15:50
davmor2diplo: look at linuxcontainers.org iirc it has a bunch of comparisons15:53
MooDooi need a new server :(15:53
diploWill do ta, I had issues with vagrant so thought id take a look15:54
davmor2diddledan, MooDoo, popey: I'm trying to figure out if this is a better version of Layla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HE123MAhls you need to listen to it a couple of time because the first is like wth19:35
=== Dave_____ is now known as Dave
diddledandavmor2: wow, that's different20:56

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