[06:33] <MooDoo> morning all
[06:48] <mapps> hi all
[06:50] <MooDoo> howy
[08:04] <diplo> Morning all
[08:11] <MooDoo> hello diplo
[08:18] <diplo> How are we this fine fresh Friday morning
[08:29] <MooDoo> doing ok thanks
[08:29] <MooDoo> getting my kids used to ubuntu gnome :)
[08:34] <diplo> hah good work, not used Gnome3 still yet, my kids use my ubuntu machines and soon what ever runs on raspbian ( lxfce? )
[08:46] <sebsebseb> popey: ping
[08:58] <MooDoo> diplo: yes might reinstall ubuntu standard as I believe in the next LTS release, you can move the unity bar to the bottom
[09:00] <popey> sebsebseb: pong
[09:00] <popey> Good morning
[09:01] <sebsebseb> popey: morning
[09:02] <sebsebseb> popey: I hope there won't be any rushy you must pre order now for the Meizu Pro 5 if you want one, or they may all go out of stock for ages soon, since the fan boys got them.  I mean I might get one, but the MX 4 is good :) etc.  Tablet  will be more interesting :)
[09:03]  * sebsebseb will not have money to buy any expensive devices next week that's for sure
[09:03] <sebsebseb> apparnatly pre orders for Meizu whilst Mobile World
[09:05] <sebsebseb> popey: how's the progress of running classic Desktop LInux apps going?  I know ideally want people using native apps actaully made for Ubuntu Touch.
[09:05] <sebsebseb> Classic software I meant above even not apps
[09:05] <davmor2> Morning all TFI Friday
[09:06] <sebsebseb> davmor2: TFI  ???
[09:07] <davmor2> if you don't know, you are too young to know and don't need to know ;)
[09:07] <sebsebseb> davmor2: I think I have seen that before some where
[09:07] <sebsebseb> but forgot what it was
[09:07] <sebsebseb> if so
[09:08] <davmor2> sebsebseb: the goal is not to run classic software the goal is to run software and that is going amazingly well thanks, oh unless you need a keyboard on the move
[09:09] <sebsebseb> what's going amazingly well
[09:09] <sebsebseb> davmor2: as I put above I know the goal isn't to run lots of classic software really,  but instead native apps ,  but one of the cool interesting things will be how can run most Desktop LInux software on there :) the classic stuff
[09:09] <sebsebseb> or I well hope so assume so :)
[09:09] <sebsebseb> if it works well enough or not that's something else
[09:10] <sebsebseb> corenominal: oh your an Ubuntu member since when?
[09:11] <corenominal> sebsebseb a good few years ago, not a member any more
[09:12] <sebsebseb> stll got the cloack though :d
[09:12] <corenominal> yup
[09:12] <sebsebseb> I had FSF one for a while after, but then lost it when I lost my nick since hadn't logged in properly for months
[09:13] <davmor2> sebsebseb: you miss understand, The goal for unity8 is to run software fullstop there is no native versus classic it is all just software, the only difference will be how well it converges and how well it works with touch but that is not unity8 goal, unity8 goal is to just make it work
[09:14] <MooDoo> morning davmor2 :)
[09:16] <sebsebseb> davmor2: yeah I guess, it's software regardless, but it's about having it working in the diffenret modes well enough ideally
[09:16] <davmor2> sebsebseb: again nothing to do with us we don't control it
[09:16] <sebsebseb> davmor2: who is us?
[09:17] <davmor2> sebsebseb: canonical, ubuntu community
[09:17] <sebsebseb> I know that some programs like FIrefox got changed slihglty to work better with convergence or work properly enough with it
[09:17] <sebsebseb> ,but in general most programs like that won't get changed it seems
[09:19] <sebsebseb> davmor2: Do you think Ubuntu devices, might actsaully get out there, and go sort of main stremae, or be more known about at least in general like that?
[09:21] <davmor2> sebsebseb: not yet, there is the whole transition to snappy to happen once that happens and there is one code base that everyone can get behind then it might
[09:22] <sebsebseb> davmor2: well indeed not yet, convrgence, snappy stuff like that, but after those things.  you think it might?
[09:22] <davmor2> sebsebseb: then it will.
[09:22] <sebsebseb> yeah hopefuolly I guess, need a proper good Linux player
[09:23] <sebsebseb> and  Tizen isn't really it I guess, but here's the thing.  I found out yesterday when someone showed me.  that PC World  actually sold a Tizen  smart watch hmm
[09:24] <sebsebseb> but well I supouse it's samsung and just an expensive watch so
[09:24] <sebsebseb> so PC World decided to
[09:25] <sebsebseb> Samsung  is a big brand though.  Uuntu  will need branded comapnies to get it out there when it's time, but apparnatly there already are some with interest
[09:25] <sebsebseb> davmor2: which branded manufactures, do you think might sell Ubuntu devices, when it's time?
[09:28] <popey> all of them :)
[09:28] <sebsebseb> popey: heh you wish :d
[09:29] <sebsebseb> popey: heh you probably have more of an idea who it will actully be, but can't just tell us that, or may get in trouble with your bosses heh
[09:31] <sebsebseb> popey: so I found this nice photo of the Ubuntu Touch team earlier, in it, withy ou in it, michal etc heh
[09:36] <popey> indeed
[09:36] <popey> http://www.cio.com/article/3034393/linux/ubuntu-on-mobile-how-shuttleworth-and-team-are-forging-ahead.html that one?
[09:45] <sebsebseb> popey: yep
[10:00] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Friday, and happy Caregivers Day! 😃
[10:19] <davmor2> JamesTait: I'm tempted by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAi3VTSdTxU but I think I'll go with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x8zBzxCwsM and this to all those who give care https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkq7WZTzkLQ
[10:32] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:34] <MooDoo> morning
[10:34] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[10:36]  * zmoylan-pi tries out my new microwave egg boiler...
[10:41]  * JamesTait nominates davmor2 for random music trivia quizzes.
[10:43] <davmor2> JamesTait: awwwww shucks you shouldn't of.....no really you shouldn't of I haven't got time for quizzes ;)
[10:48] <zmoylan-pi> some sort of quiz app for the long boring commutes...
[10:50] <brobostigon> quizup style?
[10:51] <MooDoo> oh restoring from backup [usb2] sucks :)
[10:51] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: yes because the commute from the breakfast table down stair to my office upstairs take sooooo loooooooong
[10:52] <davmor2> oh wait no it doesn't
[10:52] <MooDoo> davmor2: so you work from home, stop showing off ;)
[10:52] <zmoylan-pi> the christmas office party is legendary... :-)
[10:53] <popey> I worked from my bed yesterday morning. Had the forethought to take my laptop to bed. Got up in the morning, open laptop :)
[10:53] <MooDoo> oh the joys of working for canonical :)
[10:53] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: what christmas party, look I had one drink and then the next thing people were wishing me happy new year
[10:53] <zmoylan-pi> then were did the traffic cone come from...
[10:54] <davmor2> popey: I'm glad you had no hangouts then :)
[10:54] <popey> yea!
[10:55] <MooDoo> oooo support manager job @ canonical
[10:56] <popey> oooh
[10:56] <MooDoo> yeah just what I though
[10:56] <davmor2> popey: you already got a job, let someone else apply ;)
[10:57] <MooDoo> yeah b****** off ;)
[10:57] <davmor2> MooDoo: no no the series is Breaking Bad not off
[10:57] <popey> hah
[10:58] <MooDoo> lol well it's certainly one job I could do :)
[11:01] <MooDoo> ps davmor2 ow am ya?
[11:02] <davmor2> tired but good thanks, 'ow am ya too?
[11:02] <MooDoo> davmor2: yeah good thanks, get to leave work early today...nice start to the weekend :)
[11:03] <davmor2> MooDoo: and you thought we were showing off because of the commute pffff
[11:04] <MooDoo> davmor2: lol I started at 6 this morning and have 30 mins in the bank so finish at 1:15 :)
[11:04] <MooDoo> going home to look at building a new storage server
[11:06] <davmor2> MooDoo: oh get you and all your fancy smancy la-di-da ways next you'll be drinking tea with your little finger sticking out, I'm not jealous honest much git
[11:07] <MooDoo> davmor2: well I have a WD mycloud, which does it's job, but it's not sexy is it....when I can build a much bigger and better box
[11:44] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:46] <popey> yo
[11:52] <MooDoo> howdy bigcalm, are you well?
[11:52] <bigcalm> Hungry
[11:52] <bigcalm> Tucking into lunch far too early
[12:38]  * zmoylan-pi sorts nice chicken burgers for lunch... well chicken burgers... well tesco chicken burgers... so burgers...
[14:27] <mapps> hi;]
[14:38] <MooDoo> hi mapps
[14:39] <mapps> watced 10mins tv this morning and fell right asleep
[14:39] <mapps> wanted to watch workaholics heh, sup MooDoo
[14:43] <MooDoo> mapps: finished for the day now, just chilling at home, playing about with my laptop
[15:05] <MooDoo> I like the canonucal jobs page, nice n simple
[15:06] <davmor2> mapps: well that's never going to be an issue for you if you can't stay awake through 10 minutes of tv is it ;)
[15:08] <davmor2> MooDoo: yeah yeah, keep rubbing it in and I'll drive over there and slap you with this feather I just found
[15:08] <davmor2> MooDoo: have you had a play with lxd yet?
[15:11] <MooDoo> davmor2: no, and don't think I'll be able to at the moment, all three of my servers failed and I don't have anything else I can use at the mmoment, laptop isn't good enough I don't think
[15:11] <davmor2> MooDoo: Laptop should be fine
[15:14] <MooDoo> then it's something I may get to look at later!
[15:15] <MooDoo> davmor2: oh dear i've just done sudo apt-get install lxd ;)
[15:20] <davmor2> MooDoo: \o/  it will blow you away dude seriously you won't see vm's the same way anymore :)
[15:20] <MooDoo> davmor2: uh hoh sudo lxc-create -t download -n ul
[15:22] <MooDoo> davmor2: lots of different os's you can install this for :)
[15:24] <davmor2> MooDoo: lots of linux os's you can't install something that requires a different kernel so no bsd or windows but an linux images should work
[15:25] <MooDoo> davmor2: just trying it with ubuntu wily amd64 see what happens after that
[15:27] <MooDoo> davmor2: getting lost already, this might take me a few mins :D
[15:28] <davmor2> MooDoo: think of it as a fun weekend :)
[15:29] <davmor2> MooDoo: wouldn't want you to get bored :)
[15:29] <MooDoo> davmor2: so i've got a succesfull container, but i don't know how to access it, lxc-attach doesn't know about it lol
[15:30] <MooDoo> damn you
[15:33] <MooDoo> damn ah hah ;)
[15:33] <MooDoo> davmor2: getting it :)
[15:33] <davmor2> MooDoo: \o/
[15:33] <diddledan> america has nutters in important positions: https://boingboing.net/2016/02/19/texas-mayor-claims-obama-worke.html
[15:34] <diddledan> and then of course there's john mcaffee: http://arstechnica.com/staff/2016/02/mcafee-will-break-iphone-crypto-for-fbi-in-3-weeks-or-eat-shoe-on-live-tv/?utm_content=buffer935c9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
[15:35] <zmoylan-1i> the fbi will find a get smart phone shoe for him to eat... :-)
[15:37] <MooDoo> davmor2: holy crap mate, this is brilliant!!!!
[15:42] <davmor2> MooDoo: I told you, ages ago you would like it
[15:43] <MooDoo> well i've just created a container, booted it, attached to it, installed a new user and openssh-server and bloody hell it's like two mins to setup another server
[15:50] <diplo> Whats the difference between lxd and vagrant ?
[15:53] <davmor2> diplo: look at linuxcontainers.org iirc it has a bunch of comparisons
[15:53] <MooDoo> i need a new server :(
[15:54] <diplo> Will do ta, I had issues with vagrant so thought id take a look
[19:35] <davmor2> diddledan, MooDoo, popey: I'm trying to figure out if this is a better version of Layla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HE123MAhls you need to listen to it a couple of time because the first is like wth
[20:56] <diddledan> davmor2: wow, that's different