[00:00] <mup> Bug # changed: 1530957, 1532167, 1536446, 1536728, 1542127
[01:30] <mup> Bug #1547741 opened: Cannot build on armhf with go1.2 <armhf> <packaging> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547741>
[09:16] <mup> Bug #1547806 opened: open-port does not work on EC2 <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547806>
[15:20] <mup> Bug #1547887 opened: Wrong endpoints for Joyent us-east-1 and us-east-2 <joyent-provider> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547887>
[15:20] <mup> Bug #1547891 opened: Juju searches for index2.sjson in image streams <streams> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547891>
[15:44] <mup> Bug #1547898 opened: create-model confusing, does not just work <create-model> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547898>
[15:47] <mup> Bug #1547898 changed: create-model confusing, does not just work <create-model> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547898>
[15:50] <mup> Bug #1547898 opened: create-model confusing, does not just work <create-model> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547898>
[21:57] <jcastro> did I miss something obvious? `juju init` doesn't work in 2.0beta1
[22:00] <rick_h_> jcastro: there is no more init
[22:00] <rick_h_> jcastro: you use list-clouds, list-credentials, etc
[22:00] <rick_h_> jcastro: try add-credentials
[22:00]  * rick_h_ hasn't upgraded on here yet
[22:01] <rick_h_> jcastro: in beta1 there is no more environments.yaml
[22:01] <jcastro> oh, well init still exists when I just type `juju`
[22:01] <rick_h_> jcastro: hmm, have to look at why it exists.
[22:01] <jcastro> ok I see the clouds
[22:01] <jcastro> how do I do lxd then?
[22:02] <rick_h_> jcastro: "it just works"
[22:02] <rick_h_> jcastro: so juju bootstrap lxd $nameofcontroller
[22:02] <rick_h_> jcastro: and lxd should be the name of the cloud in list-clouds
[22:02] <jcastro> no lxd in clouds
[22:05] <rick_h_> jcastro: can you bootstrap it with lxd?
[22:05] <rick_h_>     juju bootstrap mycontroller lxd
[22:05]  * rick_h_ wonders if it's there but not visible in list-clouds in this release then
[22:05] <jcastro> ERROR cloud "lxd" not found
[22:06] <rick_h_> axw: wallyworld around on the weekend at all? ^
[22:06] <rick_h_> jcastro: probably have to manually edit the clouds.yaml file for now then if it's not there due to a bug/oversight on the release
[22:06] <jcastro> trying that now
[22:07] <rick_h_> jcastro: should be able to add a stanza that's just named lxd with the type value of lxd in it
[22:07]  * rick_h_ needs to get my laptop out and update to the beta on there 
[22:08] <jcastro> any idea where I can find a cloud.yaml example?
[22:08] <rick_h_> should be in the .local/share/juju directory where things lived in alpha2
[22:08] <rick_h_> it's plural
[22:08] <rick_h_> clouds.yaml (if you're searching with mlocate/etc)
[22:09] <jcastro> brand new install though
[22:09] <jcastro> and init won't generate a skeleton for me since it doesn't exist
[22:09] <rick_h_> it has to have stuck the file somewhere
[22:09] <rick_h_> right, but the package install needs to stick that file somewhere
[22:09] <rick_h_> and that should be in the xdg path
[22:09] <rick_h_> along with credentials file location, etc
[22:10]  * rick_h_ goes to get laptop, brb
[22:10] <jcastro> the package doesn't have that file
[22:11] <jcastro> do you think it's as simple as
[22:11] <jcastro> lxd:
[22:11] <jcastro>     type:lxd
[22:11] <jcastro> I'll try that
[22:13] <jcastro> also
[22:13] <jcastro> Development releases use the "devel" simple-streams. You must configure
[22:13] <jcastro> the `agent-stream` option in your environments.yaml to use the matching
[22:13] <jcastro> juju agents.
[22:13] <jcastro> in the release notes
[22:13] <jcastro> So is environments.yaml gone or not?
[22:13] <rick_h_> yes, but should say to use upload-tools perhaps?
[22:14] <jcastro> I think there's a bootstrapping problem here
[22:14] <jcastro> not like, bootstrapping in a juju context
[22:14] <jcastro> but like, without init I don't have any information for juju to know about
[22:14] <jcastro> and I can't add it because there are no example files
[22:15] <jcastro> AHA!
[22:15] <jcastro> dude
[22:15] <jcastro> juju help add-clouds
[22:15]  * rick_h_ is upgrading hoping this isn't a brown paper bag release
[22:15] <rick_h_> jcastro: ah right
[22:15] <rick_h_> jcastro: but there shuold still be a file that feeds the current list-clousd
[22:16] <jcastro> nope
[22:16] <rick_h_> heh running xenial means there's a lot more to upgrade than just juju
[22:16] <jcastro> just an ssh directory and some keys in there
[22:16] <jcastro> I am on trusty
[22:16] <rick_h_> try juju update-clouds
[22:17] <rick_h_> oh, I wonder if we blacklist there since lxd is wily+
[22:17]  * rick_h_ is just guessing out the $#@$
[22:18] <jcastro> ok, added
[22:18] <jcastro> that wasn't so bad
[22:19] <jcastro> looks like update-clouds didn't make it
[22:19] <rick_h_> ok, wasn't sure on that one
[22:20] <jcastro> yeah, it has to be because I am trusty
[22:20] <jcastro> that's the only thing that makes sense
[22:21] <rick_h_> bah, under dist-ugprade vs upgrade /me tries again
[22:22] <jcastro> ok, will investigate tomorrow, for now it's chimichanga time
[22:22] <rick_h_> woot
[22:22] <rick_h_> thanks for the heads up, will check out here on xenial
[22:22] <rick_h_> once the upgrade finishes
[22:22] <jcastro> I'll ask on the list
[22:36] <mup> Bug #1547966 opened: juju beta 1 does not include lxd in clouds <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547966>
[23:28] <wallyworld> rick_h_: hi
[23:29] <wallyworld> just reading backscroll, lxd works out of the box, but not on trusty
[23:30] <wallyworld> rick_h_: update-clouds not in this release, hopefully beta2
[23:31] <wallyworld> rick_h_: and yeah, no lxd provider on trusty until lxd and golang1.5 added to backports
[23:34] <rick_h_> wallyworld: k, I think he manually added lxd for his trusty
[23:34] <rick_h_> wallyworld: so that makes sense, it should show in list-clouds. I know it's not 'public' but that's the list folks will look at how to try things
[23:34] <rick_h_> wallyworld: so it needs to be a listed option
[23:34] <rick_h_> wallyworld: ty for the heads up on that it should be working ootb for non-trusty
[23:39] <wallyworld> rick_h_: yeah, we were following the spec for list-clouds output. easily added
[23:39] <rick_h_> wallyworld: cool ty
[23:40] <wallyworld> rick_h_: maybe release notes aren't explicit enough about lxd and trusty
[23:40] <rick_h_> wallyworld: yea, I think there's a general assumption since we keep saying lxd >= wily
[23:40] <rick_h_> but if folks manually go at it, they can get trusty/lxd
[23:41] <wallyworld> i'm not sure of the status of the backports effortd