[01:05] <dougiel> k I have been working on getting a clean shutdown for 4 hours including googling but all I get is it hanging on my shutdown and it says is an ok message and it is just after rsync data... is this enough info just to complain about?
[01:06] <dougiel> not really too concerned about the fix as it has been around since 14.04 or 13.10
[01:06] <dougiel> just want to complain - lol
[01:30] <leumas> dougiel: lol
[01:32]  * dougiel shivers when he realizes leumas is the only one in here that has a pulse :P
[01:32] <dougiel> just kiddin
[01:32] <leumas> hehehehe
[01:33] <dougiel> Seriously I just realized a distro's weakest link is usually the community...
[01:33] <dougiel> sad but true - IMHO
[01:35] <leumas> I concur...
[01:36] <leumas> I have been struggling to get Amarok to play streams...i suceedded with podcasts
[01:43] <dougiel> I was trying to get Sabayon (Binary Gentoo) to install... I succeeded with Kubuntu...
[01:44] <dougiel> leumas, I feel dirty for even trying Gentoo base - LOL
[01:44] <leumas> hahahahaha
[01:46] <leumas> dougiel: Kubuntu as I hear is not the best but I will just stick to it for now
[01:47] <dougiel> leumas, what do they tell you is best?
[01:48] <dougiel> ... cuz the truth is what you know is the best and the community makes it better - IMHO
[01:49] <leumas> dougiel: Opensuse keeps popping in some reviews as best KDE distro the last time i checked
[01:49] <dougiel> leumas, - never tryed it
[01:49] <leumas> Yea...community support makes a distro thick and stand strong
[01:50] <dougiel> that is you and me ATM
[01:50] <dougiel> ... even half in the bag I contibute
[01:50] <leumas> I havent too...just have the ISO file in my HDD
[03:31] <TBotNik> AQll: Hate to bust topic, but need help and #mysql channel not responding: All Repeating: Installed osTicket, which deleted all DBs and tables during install.  Found the backups are corrupt so can not restore.  Anyone have a howto on finding your old DBs, Tables and data via MySQL history? On this I have critical path and processing data gone, so can not work! Cannot interact with IRC or forums correctly as all UID/PWD combos were destroyed and manage
[03:31] <TBotNik> 5,000+ account so DB is a must to login anywhere
[03:31] <Bomber4Chats> Anybody know how to deal with black screens after login?
[03:32] <TBotNik> Bomber4Chats: Probably a resolution issue, have you looked that up?
[03:32] <Bomber4Chats> I tried
[03:32] <Bomber4Chats> Xrandr is failing for me. Deleting local .cache doesn't help
[03:33] <TBotNik> Bomber4Chats: When you use "Ctrl+Alt+F1" do you get the alternate command line login?
[03:33] <Bomber4Chats> Yeah, I have access to tty1
[03:34] <TBotNik> can you login and read your X11/Xwin logs?
[03:34] <Bomber4Chats> Sure
[03:35] <Bomber4Chats> What's the command?
[03:35] <Azrathud> What happens when you type startx?
[03:35] <TBotNik> Is it showing errors?
[03:35] <Bomber4Chats> Wow..
[03:35] <Bomber4Chats> Startx was interesting
[03:36] <Bomber4Chats> Okay, so it for the login sequence in tty1, but then it went black. I no longer have access to the tty1 terminal
[03:36] <TBotNik> Bomber4Chats: So what did it show?
[03:36] <Bomber4Chats> It's line tty7 now
[03:36] <Bomber4Chats> Like *
[03:37] <Bomber4Chats> (brevity from phone typing)
[03:37] <TBotNik> Bomber4Chats: Yup X throws you into tty7 or "Ctrl+Alt+F7", is that working correctly or do you have errors?
[03:38] <Bomber4Chats> It ran the login sequence on tty1, but just before reaching the end of the progress bar, the screen went black and it's stuck like that
[03:39] <Bomber4Chats> I cannot see any errors, or specifically, nothing is presented on the screen and I'm not sure where to find the x11 loss
[03:39] <Bomber4Chats> Logs
[03:40] <TBotNik> Bomber4Chats: Guessing then you have some errors in your X routines that need cleanup/addressing.  Look through the logs and enter errors with "howto" to find the way to correct each!
[03:41] <Bomber4Chats> Howto x11
[03:41] <Bomber4Chats> ?
[03:42] <Bomber4Chats> Uhhhhhhh
[03:42] <Bomber4Chats> OK...
[03:42] <TBotNik> Howto fix X11 <errorno>
[03:42] <Bomber4Chats> Tty1 just came back to life
[03:42] <Azrathud> Bomber4Chats: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[03:42] <Bomber4Chats> Connecting to x server lost
[03:44] <Bomber4Chats> Azrathud: 15.10
[03:44] <TBotNik> Bomber4Chats: Sounds like something in your kernel is going endless loop!
[03:44] <Azrathud> Bomber4Chats:  http://askubuntu.com/a/615486/494879
[03:45] <TBotNik> Bomber4Chats: Check the  15.10 bug log to see if your problem is documented.  I only use LTS versions, so clear back on 14.04
[03:46] <Bomber4Chats> Azrathud I removed those files mentioned in the so thread
[03:46] <Bomber4Chats> I also just did the commands you've referenced
[03:47] <TBotNik> Azrathud: Did you see my problem and can you help?
[03:48] <TBotNik> All: Hate to bust topic, but need help and #mysql channel not responding: Installed osTicket, which deleted all DBs and tables during install.  Found the backups are corrupt so can not restore.  Anyone have a howto on finding your old DBs, Tables and data via MySQL history? On this I have critical path and processing data gone, so can not work! Cannot interact with IRC or forums correctly as all UID/PWD combos were destroyed and manage 5,000+ account so DB
[03:48] <TBotNik>  is a must to login anywhere
[03:48] <Bomber4Chats> Alright, that's what I needed, either local or KDE or something was screwed up. Thought I was on the right direction
[03:48] <Bomber4Chats> Azrathud thanks
[03:49] <Bomber4Chats> Any idea what code isn't up to par to handle a situation like I've described?
[03:49] <Bomber4Chats> Why can't the display kernel recheck the current status at wakeup?
[03:50] <Azrathud> TBotNik: I would shutdown that drive immediately and try to recover files on that drive using another OS
[03:51] <Azrathud> TBotNik: http://dba.stackexchange.com/a/72760
[03:54] <TBotNik> Azrathud: Too late for that!  Happened days ago! Really desperate.  Tried everything I currently know and about 20 howtos, nothing.  Most point to the innodb path/fileset, but that was already gone and see nothing in the "trash".  My only hope is a 6 month old HD that quit working, because of either a bad cord or connector, so I might be able to get 6 month old data, which will be a loss of about 30% of the active data!
[03:55] <Azrathud> ouch
[03:55] <TBotNik> Azrathud: Of course anything this side of "0" is a positive!
[03:55] <TBotNik> Azrathud: Major ouch ouch ouch ouch ouch!
[03:56] <TBotNik> Azrathud: Think that's what I'll do over the weekend, so at least Monday will be semi sane!
[04:01] <Azrathud> TBotNik: Even if the file is not in the trash, it may be marked as deleted, but not actually deleted on the physical hard drive until it is overwritten
[04:02] <Azrathud> er it may be deleted, and the filesystem no longer knows about it, but the physical data may remain until it is overwritten
[04:02] <TBotNik> Azrathud: There is a lot to absorb in that HOWTO, so will work on it!  How do I reach you for followup?
[04:04] <TBotNik> Azrathud: cAN you share email in PM?
[04:05] <Azrathud> TBotNik: I do not really have in-depth knowledge in this area
[04:06] <TBotNik> Azrathud: You're  the first one in 3 weeks of fighting with some useable insight, so don't be so modest!
[06:04] <vortek> hi
[06:06] <vortek> firefox is running slow.. i got a 2.2 ghz with 8 gig ram, I shouldn't have his problem
[06:06] <vortek> any ideas?
[06:08] <genii> ...stop using Flash
[06:18] <chengzhong> test
[06:21] <DarinMiller> test successful
[07:30] <Henri> How come I cant connect to the internet with Kubuntu
[08:05] <daniel_wayne> hi
[08:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:44] <Guest62111> Hello everybody
[11:53] <alvaropag> Hello, I'm using kubuntu-backports but the last update broke my login... sometimes the login screen show up and sometimes it doesn't. When it do shows up if I type my password it just waits and return to the same screen
[11:53] <alvaropag> Anyone with this problem too?
[12:28] <lordievader> Anything in the xsession-errors log?
[12:38] <alvaropag> @lordievader yes.... timeout in locking authority file /home/alvaro/.Xauthority and  $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server (plus a bunch of other things)
[12:41] <alvaropag> I'm starting x via a terminal on tty0 (using only "startx" - no sudo)
[12:42] <alvaropag> After this command I have to wait for the error (.Xauthority timeout) and then Ctrl+C twice to start plasma-shell (then everything works) and on tty7 it's a black screen
[12:53] <lordievader> What happens when you start X as root and run 'startkde' as a user?
[12:54] <alvaropag> I didn't try it, give me a minute
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:57] <alvaropag> @lordievader the only thing I got was sudo startx
[12:57] <alvaropag> is this what you mean?
[12:58] <alvaropag> it starts plasma, but with the root user... some apps don't start (eg. chrome)
[12:58] <lordievader> alvaropag: No, there should be some startkde, startkde5 or startplasma. (or something along those lines...)
[12:59] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj, how are you doing today?
[13:00] <alvaropag> If I try startkde only, it tells me that there's no X server running... how can I start x before?
[13:08] <lordievader> alvaropag: In a different tty run as root '/usr/bin/X :0'.
[13:09] <alvaropag> thanks, I'll try
[13:22] <alvaropag> @lordievader nops, it says $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the x server (but I set $DISPLAY)
[13:39] <lordievader> Is X running on :0 and did you export the display variable to that?
[13:46] <alvaropag> yes
[13:47] <alvaropag> but it didnt connect... I verify with ps aux and echo $DISPLAY
[13:47] <alvaropag> everything was correct, x was running as root and startkde as my normal user
[14:03] <lordievader> Hmm, then I suppose that is the issue sddm/Plasma runs into.
[14:04] <lordievader> Theoretically you could purge the backports ppa see if it works then and then reinstall the ppa.
[14:05] <alvaropag> it seems so, but this started after the last update... I tried to downgrade only sddm, but it didn't work out...
[14:05] <alvaropag> I'll try to purge backports then, but I'm at school now, so I'll do it later
[14:05] <alvaropag> anyway, thanks for the help lordievader
[14:06] <lordievader> I don't think the problem lies with sddm.
[14:08] <alvaropag> I also have xorg-edgers
[14:08] <alvaropag> maybe I should purge it first
[14:09] <lordievader> Oeh, yeah. That one is known to give troubles.
[14:09] <alvaropag> hummmm, I didn't know, it always worked ok for me
[14:09] <BluesKaj> alvaropag, xorg-edgers aren't known for keepiong up with upgrades to kernel modules/drivers
[14:09] <alvaropag> I'll purge it then!
[14:14] <lordievader> Through xorg edgers you can quickly get some piece of software expecting an older version of X, while X itself is newer.
[14:35] <alvaropag> @lordievader I purged the PPA but the problem persists... start the sddm, put my password, get a blank screen for a while then it gets back to the password screen
[14:36] <BluesKaj> alvaropag, which gpu and driver?
[14:39] <alvaropag> intel gpu (with nvidia disabled) and driver i915
[14:40] <alvaropag> mesa 11.0.2, sddm 0.13
[14:40] <GreenDay> how to configure ntp under kde please?
[14:44] <lordievader> alvaropag: Did you reboot after purging?
[14:44] <alvaropag> BluesKaj: this is the start of the .xsession-errors https://jpst.it/FFr3
[14:46] <alvaropag> lordievader: yes, I rebooted it twice
[14:47] <BluesKaj> alvaropag, Optimus system, hybrid gpus on a laptop?
[14:47] <alvaropag> Yes it has, but everything is disabled... the nvidia gpu I disabled on bios
[14:48] <alvaropag> BluesKaj: I updated the link with the full .xsession-errors
[14:48] <lordievader> alvaropag: What happens when you remove the ~/.Xauthority file?
[14:49] <alvaropag> lordievader: Do I need to stop my current session before remove it?
[14:49] <alvaropag> lordievader:  I cannot remove it, because it's a root file (inside my home folder)
[14:49] <lordievader> X session? Yes.
[14:50] <lordievader> Ah, yeah that is not correct.
[14:50] <lordievader> It should be owned by your user.
[14:50] <alvaropag> yes, but it's being created by the root...
[14:50] <alvaropag> I also have .Xauthority-c and .Xauthority-l
[14:51] <alvaropag> don't know why
[14:51] <alvaropag> lordievader: Should I remove it and try to log in again?
[14:52] <lordievader> alvaropag: Yes, kill all X sessions, including SDDM. Remove the file, then start the SDDM service and try to login.
[14:52] <alvaropag> lordievader: Ok
[14:53] <BluesKaj> lordievader, he should be using nvidia-prime
[14:57] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Why? He is only using the nVidia card. Wouldn't just the nVidia driver be enough?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> his nvidia is disabled lordievader
[14:59] <lordievader> Ah. Read it wrong.
[14:59] <lordievader> Still begs the question, why nvidia-prime?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> nvidia-prime is written for hybrid graphics hardware, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/243535/how-to-make-nvidia-optimus-work-on-kubuntu-15-10
[15:02] <lordievader> But is that still necesarry if one of the two is disabled?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> think he has it backwards , as you say he should be using the nvidia, it's the more powerful gpu
[15:03] <BluesKaj> if he wants to use just one gpu
[15:04] <BluesKaj> but most optimus users run with the both
[15:04] <claudio> ita
[15:05] <BluesKaj> !it | claudio
[15:08] <alvaropag> lordievader: It recreated the file with my user, but the problem persists
[15:10] <alvaropag> lordievader:  the problem is that the $DISPLAY variable is empty and it can't connect to the Xserver... I have to kill it and do a startx (wait for the .Xauthority locking timeout then two Ctrl+C) to start it
[15:13] <lordievader> Who is the owner of the .Xauth file after that action?
[15:14] <alvaropag> lordievader: .Xauthority keeps with my user now
[15:22] <alvaropag> lordievader: I resolved it, but don't know what was wrong... I moved my .kde folder and rebooted, it recreated the .kde folder and it's working now... maybe something got corrupted along the way
[15:23] <lordievader> .kde? What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[15:26] <alvaropag> lordievader: Kubuntu 15.10 (but I'm updating it since 14.10, hehehehe - no fresh install)
[15:27] <lordievader> Hmm, Plasma 5 shouldn't use ~/.kde. But never mind that, great that you fixed it ;)
[15:28] <alvaropag> lordievader: yes... it is strange, I will do a fresh install in the next LTS
[15:28] <alvaropag> lordievader, BluesKaj thanks for the help!
[15:33] <BluesKaj> alvaropag, here's a suggestion for your optimus system if you're interested, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/243535/how-to-make-nvidia-optimus-work-on-kubuntu-15-10
[15:37] <alvaropag> BluesKaj: thanks! I'll give a look at it. I tried once, but gave up because the battery wasn't lasting that long...
[15:39] <BluesKaj> alvaropag, yeah that's the whole idea of the lower power level and higher power level gpus...battery life
[15:41] <alvaropag> BluesKaj: yes, I saw on phoronix that nvidia is trying to integrate better the optimus tecnology with mesa, but it's not ready yet...
[15:44] <BluesKaj> alvaropag, ok , good to know
[16:28] <belse> my dns is behaving strangely. lookup worked fine in one terminal but my other two there was no lookup result.. restarting wifi solved it.. why is this?
[16:29] <belse> . /etc/resolv.conf contains nameserver 127.0.1.1 and search <mydomain>
[17:07] <rapte> belse: check NM settings for DNS
[17:07] <rapte> IIRC NM overrides the DNS if you set a DNS
[17:13] <belse> I haven't set it manually. I expect it to come from NM but somewhere it forgot it. Can't explain why it worked in one console though
[17:13] <astrmix> Всем привет
[17:14] <belse> Is there caching somewhere, because i just opened a new terminal and host <whatever> was slow but i just did one lookup fast in previous console
[17:14] <rapte> belse: yes
[17:15] <rapte> your modem or your computer may be caching it
[17:15] <belse> per terminal?
[17:15] <rapte> use dig <domain>
[17:15] <rapte> to find out who gave the response
[17:15] <belse> this was a host lookup on my local network
[17:15] <rapte> for example in my case, ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) is produced
[17:15] <rapte> dnsmasq service is caching the dns
[17:17] <rapte> it's not per terminal
[17:17] <rapte> the first time you did host <whatever> in terminal 1, dnsmasq had not cached the domain name
[17:18] <belse> well i did one fast first and then started a new terminal and then it was slow
[17:18] <belse> so epxect it be cached already
[17:18] <rapte> hm
[17:18] <rapte> could be network latency
[17:18] <belse> and lookup should be <2 ms because of local network, so thinking it may search external network before domain
[17:18] <belse> didn't provide fqdn
[17:19] <rapte> what are you looking up
[17:19] <rapte> is it in your LAN
[17:19] <rapte> or what
[17:19] <rapte> "becaues of local network"
[17:19] <belse> yes, my local dns servers hostname
[17:19] <belse> had problem with autofs because of failed lookups before restarting network
[17:20] <belse> but still don't expect lookups to be slow so something is wroing
[17:20] <rapte> well, IIRC normally it will resolve recursively from 127.0.0.1 -> 192.168.1.1 (your modem) -> 8.8.8.8 (your DNS, for example) -> your nameserver for your domain name
[17:20] <rapte> (if nothing's cached it would pass all the way through that)
[17:20] <belse> where do i see dns gotten from dns server?
[17:20] <rapte> dig <domain>
[17:21] <rapte> you can also do dig <domain>@dns to query the domain from the DNS server at IP dns
[17:21] <belse> looks alright but does not say which dns i'm using
[17:22] <belse> i'm guessing this is only domain search relevant
[17:22] <belse> i may be way off here :)
[17:25] <belse> Ah! found the issue on the dhcpd config
[17:26] <belse> domain was changed a long time ago but config wasn't updated.. haven't had any problem with any client so far but nm must query domain before dns
[17:31] <BluesKaj> belse, try this, nmcli dev show |grep DNS
[17:33] <belse> BluesKaj, thanks i see second record not from dns server which is the router 10.0.0.1
[17:33] <belse> This should not be queried
[17:33] <belse> i mean dhcp server
[17:36] <BluesKaj> belse, you can set your ISP ior other preferred DNS server IPs in your router DNS optional settings ..works on my TP-Link TL-WDR3600
[17:36] <belse> It's not the problem. I want to query my dhcp/dns server first and let it forward any unknown requests
[17:37] <belse> Here it may query router/outside world first
[17:37] <BluesKaj> anyway errands to do for a few mins...bbl
[17:37] <belse> So nm must add this automatically
[17:39] <BluesKaj> then if you want /etc/resolve.confto use specific DNS IPs then you need to set them in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head because it overwrites /etc/resolve.conf since ubuntu 13.10
[18:02] <belse> problem solved. dhcp server mess, had the router as dhcp server with dns to dns server, but it also added itself as dns server.... :P had to disable it and move everything to dedicated server..
[18:12] <cmyip> Hi All
[18:17] <peasnik> hi cmyip
[18:19] <cmyip> I'm experimenting with touchpad gestures, what is the module that handles touchpad input in KDE5?
[18:30] <BluesKaj> cmyip, kmenu>computer>system settings>input devices>touchpad
[18:32] <cmyip> BluesKaj, do you know which part of the KDE5 framework handles touchpad input? just want to view the code
[19:02] <Azrathud> ddd
[19:58] <dougiel> I have new usb stick and new dvd with 14.04.04 daily and it does not boot - any suggestions?
[20:01] <BluesKaj> dougiel, how long did dd take to copy the iso , it usially takes about 5mins for a 1G image
[20:02] <dougiel> a second but sync'd for 5 min and then sudo sync'd for a second
[20:02] <dougiel> BluesKaj,
[20:03] <BluesKaj> dd doesn't show a progress bar unless you use pv between input and the out put
[20:03] <BluesKaj> synced?
[20:04] <dougiel> dd if=some.iso pv of=/dev/sdc BS=1M?
[20:06] <BluesKaj> sudo dd if=pathtoiso | pv | sudo dd of=/dev/sdc bs=1M
[20:29] <BluesKaj> oops disconn'd by mistake
[20:29] <dougiel> just finishing up my 3rd attempt at maiking a 14.04 daily build
[20:30] <BluesKaj> dougiel, assume you've tried booting the daily on other pcs
[20:31] <dougiel> I don't even trust it - how could I entrust another working machine to be borked by the daily.
[20:32] <dougiel> I will try on this one as it is the one I have made it on
[20:32] <BluesKaj> just to see if it boots into the media , not to install
[20:32] <dougiel> brb.
[20:38] <dougiel> yes BluesKaj it boot on a real machine
[20:39] <BluesKaj> real machine ?
[20:39] <dougiel> buy hangs on the old hardware
[20:39] <dougiel> asus g75vw
[20:39] <BluesKaj> how old is that?
[20:40] <dougiel> 3 years
[20:40] <BluesKaj> not old at all
[20:41] <BluesKaj> this thing is almost 8 yrs old now
[20:41] <dougiel> the old peice of crap is 2007 but I have had gentoo installed on it and kubuntu versions.
[20:42] <BluesKaj> this is 2008 (I prefer to call it vintage)  :)
[20:42] <dougiel> fair enough
[20:45] <BluesKaj> have the nvidia 8400gs pci card and brought it up to 6G of RAM and a Samsung ssd evo 850 256Gb drive which gives it new life
[20:47] <dougiel> I get a red block and : sendbytes: error -110
[20:47] <dougiel> does tis mean anything to anyone?
[20:51] <BluesKaj> I have no clue what that could be
[20:52] <dougiel> So the question remains how do I install 14.04 on a 4coredual-vsta?
[20:54] <bprompt> 4coredual-vsta?    was iss dat?
[21:29] <d0k> Hello
[21:30] <d0k> Can anyone help me with pop up menus opening in the wrong monitor?
[21:30] <d0k> test
[21:31] <dougiel> memory tests ok...
[21:31] <DarinMiller> I have 2 monitors, but my notifications follow my primary desktop which is what I prefer.
[21:32] <dougiel> not sure why kubuntu is not installing - suggestion welcome.
[21:32] <DarinMiller> What menus are poping up in the wrong location:?
[21:32] <DarinMiller> d0k What menus are poping up in the wrong location:?
[21:32] <d0k> When I right click on anything inside of some applications
[21:33] <DarinMiller> what happens if you restart plasmashell?
[21:33] <d0k> I restarted the computer many times
[21:33] <DarinMiller> terminal command:  killall plasmashell && plasmashell &
[21:34] <d0k> Okay, I'll try
[21:34] <d0k> Same problem
[21:34] <d0k> Nothing changed
[21:36] <DarinMiller> what application?  primary or secondary montir?  (I want to try to dupliate...)  Also, what version of plasma?  (kinfocenter is an easy place to check..)
[21:37] <d0k> Spotify and Clementine. The programs are on the secondary monitor which is on the left, and when I right click in the programs, a pop up menu appears in the primary monitor on the right. Plasma 5.4.2.
[21:43] <DarinMiller> Hmmm... Clementine is working fine here, but I on plasma 5.5.4
[21:43] <d0k> Maybe I can update?
[21:46] <DarinMiller> You could try backports ppa. Are you familiar with installing ppa's?
[21:46] <d0k> I'm okay with adding ppas
[21:47] <DarinMiller> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[22:06] <federico> hola
[22:13] <Guest3173> test:)
[22:13] <clivejo> echo!
[22:14] <Guest3173> echo off
[22:14] <Guest3173> ggg
[22:31] <melodie> hi
[22:32] <Finetundra> hello melodie
[22:32] <melodie> does someone here do work on high resolution pictures?
[22:32] <melodie> hi Finetundra
[22:32] <melodie> I have to advice someone who does that, and wants a brand new tower
[22:32] <Finetundra> I'm sorry but I don't know ay about that
[22:33] <melodie> for instance, I think with the i5 or the i7 latest generation, and a screen which will be 27"
[22:33] <melodie> http://www.ldlc-pro.com/fiche/PB00181462.html
[22:34] <melodie> I think I'll suggest a GPU such as this one: http://www.ldlc-pro.com/fiche/PB00185475.html
[22:34] <melodie> what do you think?
[22:34] <melodie> hi Na3iL
[22:34] <melodie> I am not a KDE user, however he is...
[22:34] <melodie> so what do you Kubuntu users think about it?
[22:36] <Finetundra> Well, I can't say anything about the newer intel processors(I've only worked with older ones), but the GPU is pretty solid as far as I've heard. How much RAM will the system have?
[22:37] <melodie> it could have 8 GB, or eventually 16 GB (which I believe is way too much… )
[22:37] <melodie> the i5 and i7 are powerful quad cores, and the GPU will also probably be a good addition with 4GB ram?
[22:38] <melodie> what I'm not sure, if that's not too noisy with 3 fans
[22:38] <d0k> Hello again, I updated, but not to 5.5.4 but 5.5.3 plasma. The problem still persists
[22:38] <melodie> hi d0k what problem?
[22:38] <Finetundra> I'd say that he may need the 16GB of RAM. A few nights ago my buddy was saying that he was doing some video processing and he maxed out his RAM
[22:39] <Finetundra> And I doub't those fans will cause trouble
[22:39] <d0k> When I right click on inside of an app in my secondary monitor, the pop up menu appears on my main monitor
[22:39] <melodie> but video processing is much more greedy than image processing
[22:39] <melodie> he does pictures, with Gimp
[22:39] <d0k> A person here said they don't have that problem, but he has plasma 5.5.4
[22:39] <d0k> So I updated
[22:40] <Finetundra> Indeed however depending on how high level it will be that 16GB may become necessary
[22:40] <d0k> But it didn't update to 5.5.4
[22:40] <melodie> yes d0k and then after update?
[22:40] <d0k> The problem is still here
[22:40] <d0k> And the panel looks more ugly now
[22:40] <Finetundra> Have you tried a different DE all together?
[22:40] <melodie> what about if you reconfigure the panel?
[22:40] <d0k> When I hover on items, they light up light blue
[22:40] <d0k> No, I am used to KDE
[22:41] <melodie> ok Finetundra thanks
[22:42] <d0k> Does anyone have any ideas as to why I didn't update to 5.5.4?
[22:43] <d0k> I added the kubuntu backports ppa, and updated after that
[22:43] <Finetundra> sadly I have no experience with KDE 5+
[22:44] <Finetundra> I chose to stick with 4
[22:46] <melodie> d0k which edition of Kubuntu do you run?
[22:46] <d0k> 15.10
[22:47] <clivejo> 5.5.4 isnt in backports yet
[22:47] <clivejo> still in landing
[22:48] <d0k> Thanks
[22:50] <Na3iL> hey melodie
[23:06] <Mylon> Fuuuuuuuuuuck.
[23:06] <Mylon> I go to watch some Netflix and they're like... "Come back when you're decided to go back to sucking Microsoft's cock."
[23:07] <d0k> I'm back, updated to plasma 5.5.4, but the problems still persist
[23:08] <valorie> !language | Mylon
[23:09] <Mylon> I am calm!  And at least I'm polite to the people here.  Microsoft on the other hand...
[23:09] <valorie> d0k: 5.5.4 is not yet in backports
[23:09] <valorie> Mylon: watch your language
[23:09] <valorie> what you said is not acceptable
[23:10] <Mylon> Oh my, am I invading your safe space?
[23:10] <d0k> Hey guys, calm down please
[23:10] <Unit193> Mylon: Just please no cussing here.  Anywho, you try netflix-desktop yet?
[23:10] <Mylon> I haven't heard about it until now!  Which is why you guys are great.  You have the answers to everything.
[23:10] <Unit193> AFAIK, there's only that unofficial option for netflix.
[23:11] <Unit193> !netflix
[23:12] <Mylon> Interesting.  I wonder why these wine patches haven't been pushed into the main version?
[23:12] <d0k> I updated to 5.5.4 from landing
[23:12] <d0k> And nothing changed
[23:12] <d0k> Except that now it says that I have 5.5.4
[23:13] <Unit193> Mylon: There was some long thing about it, I think I read it a while ago but as I don't have netflix I either forgot and/or didn't follow it.  IIRC, they were pretty hacky.
[23:13] <Mylon> Probably easier to just drop Linux.  I've used it like twice in 6 months.
[23:14] <Mylon> I just don't watch TV much and their movie selection is pretty meh.
[23:14] <Mylon> Wait.
[23:15] <Mylon> Drop Netflix, not Linux.  Derp.
[23:15] <d0k> How do I change the panel from glowing light blue when I hover on items?
[23:15] <d0k> It looks bad
[23:16] <Unit193> Mylon: Can't say I disagree with you there.  Does Amazon prime offer more of what you're looking for?  (Does it work on Linux?)
[23:16] <d0k> The items glowing light blue, I meant
[23:17] <Mylon> I don't know.  When Amazon Prime was still young it's selection was pretty poor too.  There's a lot of Arrrrrrr-flavored streaming sites out there that offer decent quality and better selection.
[23:19] <dougiel> can someone help me install kubuntu please - suse installs but sucks and I know kubuntu installs but for whatever reason I am havine extreme difficulty - please help :)
[23:20] <d0k> What's wrong, dougiel?
[23:21] <dougiel> d0k, now is hanging on 9.48... nouveau drm dcb oup 02: 04011310 00000028
[23:22] <dougiel> I guessed at installation process yesterday ( boot option and kernel options) and it installed but gparted ruined my partitions and could not get clean boot or shutdown but the problem todayis I forget what I guessed
[23:24] <d0k> Hmm, sorry, maybe someone else understands this better in this chat than me
[23:24] <d0k> I need help myself
[23:24] <dougiel> been doing this for quite a few day and I am getting fed up... I need some help but my querys
[23:24] <dougiel> what do you need help with?
[23:25] <d0k> When I right click in an app on my secondary monitor, the pop up menu appears on my main monitor
[23:31] <valorie> dougiel: sounds like you need to go back to gparted and get your partitions fixed first?
[23:31] <valorie> nothing can install in a messed up system
[23:31] <d0k> I'm back, don't know why konversation closed
[23:33] <dougiel> valorie, partition with suse and installed successfully but could not configure. I have never used suse before... how does that sound like messed up partitions?
[23:33] <valorie> ah
[23:33] <valorie> dunno, have only used suse once, long ago
[23:34] <valorie> dougiel: does the kubuntu iso you burned start up the live session successfully in any other computer?
[23:34] <dougiel> yes
[23:35] <valorie> and does it run as a live session in your messed-up computer?
[23:36] <dougiel> no
[23:36] <valorie> have you tried something different, like lubuntu or xubuntu?
[23:36] <valorie> both rather "light"
[23:37] <dougiel> assorted errors or messages currnet  is i2c i2c-2: sendbytes: error -110
[23:38] <dougiel> I have been trying distros for a week
[23:38] <dougiel> mostly ubuntu derivatives but sabayon and suse too
[23:39] <dougiel> valorie, what do you suggest I try next - I have 48 dvd's left
[23:39] <valorie> yikes
[23:41] <valorie> dougiel: any chance that a new HD would solve your problems?
[23:42] <valorie> you could very well have failing hardware
[23:43] <dougiel> for the live seession not to boot?
[23:49] <valorie> I don't know