[00:23] <Mathisen> hello, so would you say i could upgrade from 15.10 on my dekstop home computer ?
[00:23] <Mathisen> or should i still wait
[00:23] <genii> Probably wait until after it's in release, unless you have another computer you could fall back to in an emergency
[00:24] <k1l> we need a red blinking sign saying: your computer will break  :)
[00:25] <Mathisen> hehe
[00:27] <k1l> Mathisen: use the -d switch for developer
[00:27] <k1l> but be aware that things will break and you need to fix them yourself.
[00:27] <Mathisen> i understand, but its only for my desktop i have backup...
[00:27] <Mathisen> if it breaks to bad i revert
[00:28] <Mathisen> i was thinking in the world of.. is there any BIG issues still
[00:31] <Mathisen> no comments on that ?
[00:31] <Mathisen> or is the answer still " it will break your computer "
[00:31] <k1l> working here.
[00:31] <Mathisen> :)
[00:31] <k1l> but its just not meant for the regular user. thats the point
[00:32] <k1l> it can break anytime. and we dont want to hear you cry :)
[00:32] <ChibaPet> Mathisen: It will break your computer. I'd wait longer.
[00:32] <genii> May kill or maim kittens, i think, is the standard disclaimer
[00:32] <Mathisen> okej :) il wait
[00:32] <ChibaPet> It'll be out pretty soon in any event, in all its LTS glory.
[00:33] <Mathisen> from one thing to another.. im no expert how do i get the newest nvidia drivers for my card nvidia 960 gt ?
[00:33] <Mathisen> can you help me with that would be great if you could
[00:33] <genii> Mathisen: Support for regular Ubuntu is in #ubuntu
[00:34] <genii> Please ask there :)
[00:34] <Mathisen> i know but i think i read that 16.04 has beta drivers in a repo ?
[00:34] <Mathisen> or ame i dreaming here
[00:35] <genii> You can get the latest drivers for any current not-EOL Ubuntu by adding the xorg-edgers PPA
[00:36] <Mathisen> thx
[08:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:24] <Volkodav> Hi! I can't get the image to boot from flash drive - tried dd netbootin on different boxes as different user
[10:50] <alexwhitman> Has the Ubuntu Mono font changed recently in 16.04? Performed an update today and things look... odd
[12:36] <Mikelevel> hi , any help with nvidia-352 package ... problems with lib32gcc1 and libc6-i386
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[16:58] <ChibaPet> Mikelevel: What problems? I installed it last night and it seems to be running fine here on a GTX 660.
[16:59] <Mikelevel> i think i was using some repos outdated ... now with official repository everything works fine
[17:00] <ChibaPet> Good good.
[18:01] <ChibaPet> Hm, vlc and xine both dump core. Need to debug this after getting back home later.
[18:04] <ChibaPet> And yet, mplayer plays my DVD. Weird.
[18:04] <ChibaPet> The odd bit is that my other Xenial box can play DVDs with any of them without issue. That might help track it down.
[18:21] <ngaio> is there a special reason why the Dash doesn't find applications in /usr/local/bin, with icons and .desktop file under /usr/local/share/ ? it works in 15.10
[19:05] <enyc> ngaio: $PATH not the asme somehow?
[19:05] <enyc> ngaio: whatever process is spawning the dash process, doesn't have /usr/local/ {various}  in the relevant PATH or equivalent ?
[19:07] <ngaio> enyc, $PATH looks okay. I just rebooted and the application in /usr/local/bin showed up in the dash with an icon, but no name
[19:07] <ngaio> very puzzling
[19:07] <ngaio> before the reboot (and after the install) there was no icon at all
[19:08] <ngaio> so it couldn't be found in the dash
[20:01] <enyc> ngaio_: i rememebr circumstances where $PATH was fine at some terminal but not in whatever spawned a particualr panel, etc.
[20:01] <enyc> ngaio_: i remember bein driven potty by a certain solaris system  with   /opt/gnome-1.4/ blah lah  and zillions of other things in paths all over the place which was crazy
[20:01] <enyc> LD_LIBRARY_PATH ridiculousness and all the rest of it ;p
[21:25] <ChibaPet> enyc: For a number of years my shell scripts kept a list of possible paths across a bunch of different systems, and built a PATH from whatever existed.
[21:26] <ChibaPet> Never know if what you want is in /opt/sfw/bin or /usr/pkg/sbin or /usr/games, and then there was that naughty Sendmail in /usr/lib.
[21:32] <enyc> ;p
[21:36] <ChibaPet> Now systemd will push us all to /usr/bin, and in doing so utterly obscure why /usr ever existed in the first place.
[21:37]  * ChibaPet whistles and looks the other way.