[03:08] <HoppingMadMan> Am I crazy but the Ubuntu Software Center has been getting bugger and bugger with ever version of Ubuntu
[03:15] <HoppingMadMan> I find if I try to cue up any more then 10 packages I find it crashes on me
[03:39] <darkxst> HoppingMadMan, its being replaced with gnome-software in 16.04
[03:39] <HoppingMadMan> That is good to hear, something has been done
[03:42] <HoppingMadMan> Everything I have been reading about 16.04 is getting me excited, I wish they would do something about Unity, maybe drop it all together
[03:43] <darkxst> why? lots of people like Unity, and there are the flavours for those that don't
[03:44] <HoppingMadMan> Oh I agree, but I feel they really need to work on Unity, it just seem to have its faults and when the community bring it up they tend to ignore it
[03:44] <HoppingMadMan> That is my own personal expenses
[03:47] <darkxst> well they are mainly working on Unity 8, but there has been work on Unity 7 this cycle also
[03:48] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah, maybe it is going to be better we still have awhile to wait, hold of judgment for Unity 8 till then
[03:49] <HoppingMadMan> And at the end of the day, really shouldn't judge as I don't think I could even begin to program a UI
[03:53] <darkxst> still, unity 7 has loads of bug fixes coming for the LTS
[03:55] <HoppingMadMan> Ok, yeah.. But Linux hay, if you don't like it change it
[03:56] <HoppingMadMan> I have been using Linux for such a long time now, I really need to teach myself to be a better programmer so I can give back
[03:59] <darkxst> there are plenty of other ways to give back, apart from just programming!
[03:59] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah, see dumb me, I only think about programing. It's just hard to find a place to jump in, or maybe I am not looking in the right places
[04:00] <darkxst> HoppingMadMan, testing 16.04 beta next week
[04:02] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah only got the laptop at the moment only, and testing it in a VM is that fare
[04:03] <darkxst> and plenty of other areas, documentation/wiki, artwork/design, reporting/triage bugs
[04:03] <darkxst> HoppingMadMan, yes VM is ok
[04:03] <darkxst> just make sure to report that when adding reports on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[04:04] <HoppingMadMan> Thanks darkxst, your much kinder than most on IRC
[04:04] <darkxst> (beta candidate images will be available monday
[04:05] <HoppingMadMan> Cool I will start taking a look
[04:11] <darkxst> HoppingMadMan, I think you will find most Ubuntu devs are friendly
[04:11] <darkxst> except perhaps in the case where people come along with threats/demands etc that are completely unreasonable!
[04:12] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah yeah, hopping when I get back to Australia with the wife, get a bit more time, to do IT stuff and show her all the beautiful places
[04:13] <darkxst> HoppingMadMan, where in Aus? I'm near Melbourne
[04:14] <HoppingMadMan> I am originally from Adelaide, but now living in Mexico with my wife she was born here
[04:15] <darkxst> ah yeh
[04:16] <HoppingMadMan> We are going through the visa process
[04:17] <HoppingMadMan> And well this government has changed the laws, made it a little harder
[04:17] <darkxst> should be easy if you are an Australian citizen?
[04:17] <HoppingMadMan> It is and it isn't
[04:19] <HoppingMadMan> It's just Mexicans are not trusted around the world sadly
[04:19] <darkxst> one of my mates wife is Mexican, but she was here on PR already when they married
[04:19] <darkxst> gtg, be back later
[04:20] <HoppingMadMan> Ok, I will talk at some point
[05:14] <lindol> hi all
[05:23] <HoppingMadMan> hey lindol, how are you
[05:28] <lindol> HoppingMadMan, hi :) I am some tired because i have drunk last night.. :)
[05:28] <lindol> how about you
[09:24] <darkxst> ricotz, feel free to test nautilus git snapshot on ppa:darkxst/x320
[09:41] <ricotz> darkxst, what is the reason for doing a snapshot?
[09:43] <darkxst> ricotz, they didnt release a tarball since 2 months ago
[09:45] <ricotz> darkxst, hmm, did you try to ask why?
[09:45] <ricotz> g-i is a similar case though
[09:45] <darkxst> not yet
[09:45] <ricotz> I might try to do one
[09:46] <ricotz> (sometimes specific bugs can delay a release)
[09:48] <darkxst> 3.19.2 was the last nautilus release and there has been loads of fixes since then
[09:48] <ricotz> I see
[09:49] <ricotz> going to push a new gtk+ for this wayland-protocol change
[09:49] <darkxst> ricotz, k thanks, yet is a bit broken since debian didnt follow your naming
[09:50] <darkxst> s/yet/yeh/
[09:50] <ricotz> appending -dev to an obviously development package made sense
[09:52] <darkxst> apparently not for the debian guys ;)
[09:56] <ricotz> darkxst, is there something hard-depending on vala 0.31.x yet?
[09:57] <ricotz> (I guess only gnome-builder is)
[09:57] <darkxst> I've not seen anything
[09:57] <darkxst> (not looked at -builder yet)
[09:57] <ricotz> due the unification of the vala package I haven't put it in the ppa yet
[09:58] <ricotz> in case they can be copied from https://launchpad.net/~vala-team/+archive/ubuntu/next/+packages
[09:59] <darkxst> ok
[10:01] <ricotz> although it includes a bug-fix for owned delegates which has an positive effect on quite some gir-to-vapi builds
[10:05] <darkxst> it should be fine to include it, I imagine most of upstream are building against it?
[10:06] <darkxst> jhbuild certainly is
[10:06] <ricotz> it should be yeah, I building several projects to test binding updates/changes
[10:07] <ricotz> I am ..
[11:56] <octoquad> darkxst, hi! What do you think of this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+question/257365 pretty interesting idea, but looks like quite a bit of work.
[12:22] <octoquad> darkxst, is this possible or even feasible: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+question/250197
[14:50] <LinDol> hi all
[15:07] <lindol> hi all
[21:26] <craysiii> i gotta say so far 16.04 has been good to me
[23:16] <tristan957> Does anyone know where I can download and that 16.04 daily build?