[05:04] <zikalify> Are the ports mentioned in this article available yet or being made available during MWC? https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/02/19/community-collaborates-on-new-convergent-ubuntu-phones/
 be nice for someone to make a nice slimline clip on keyboard for an ubuntu phone, but that's only likely with very wide adoption
[05:35] <jabawok> +1
 would be nice for someone to make a phone that's a decent size, and has a built-in slide out keyboard
[05:35] <jabawok> +2
[05:36] <eadrom> I'm going to be hunting for a case+keyboard combo thing for my tablet next month
[05:38] <eadrom> something like this:  http://www.mobilefun.com/47755-encase-wireless-bluetooth-tablet-keyboard-case-9-10-inch.htm
[05:38] <eadrom> would be absolutely fantastic
[05:52] <jabawok> meh not a big fan of keyboards without moving parts
[05:52] <jabawok> but yeah.. missed the N900 conversation yesterday
[05:52] <jabawok> i'm still running a N900 (and an E5)
[05:53] <jabawok> i'm slowly moving to the BQ E5 as it becomes more and more capable
[05:54] <jabawok> really still cant do without the N900 till someone writes some nice xmpp support for ubuntu touch
[05:54] <jabawok> and vncviewer
[06:43] <DerTeufel> Hi all
[06:43] <DerTeufel> Is this the channel for ubuntu phone compiling questions?
[06:44] <DerTeufel> I just read the guide, and it seems to be very straightforward
[06:44] <DerTeufel> However I am wondering, if there isn't a 5.x repository
[06:50] <jabawok> stay in channel for possible answer DerTeufel, this channel most active in a few more hours time
[06:50] <DerTeufel> OK. Thanks
[09:06] <sistemx_> Hello, can anybody help me with install bacon2d? I aleardy install it to ubuntu sdk, but when I click to play, on phone show me only white screen and debug show me that Loading module: 'libubuntu_application_api_touch_mirclient.so.3.0.0' qrc:///main.qml:2:1: module "Bacon2D" is not installed
[09:18] <sistemx_> Failed to parse "/var/lib/schroot/chroots/click-ubuntu-sdk-15.04-armhf/usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/plugins.qmltypes
[09:40] <Flohack> Good Morning!
[09:40] <Flohack> I need some help with a bugreport on the phone
[09:41] <Flohack> I got a .crash file, I can call ubuntu-bug to upload it but what next?
[09:41] <Flohack> apport-collect is also not available, since I filed already a manual Launchpad bug
[09:41] <Flohack> How can I attach the report to launchpad entry?
[10:12] <FSX> Good morning
[10:17] <Flohack> morning
[10:17] <Flohack> ;) can you help me with a bug report
[10:40] <Frozen_> Hi, I have a problem with permissions to run a web server on ubuntu touch.
[10:40] <Frozen_> Errors:
[10:40] <Frozen_> PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/etc/mime.types'
[10:41] <Frozen_> Sdk-Launcher> There has been a AppArmor denial for your application. Sdk-Launcher> Most likely it is missing a policy in the AppArmor file. Syslog> Feb 20 10:56:52 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [ 1688.321282] type=1400 audit(1455962212.426:58): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mknod" profile="uair.michal0468_uair_0.1" name="/opt/click.ubuntu.com/uair.michal0468/0.1/uair/werkzeug/__pycache__/urls.cpython-34.pyc.2852692448" pid=10375 comm=
[10:41] <Frozen_> Can you help me?
[10:43] <Flohack> Not many people write anything here...
[10:43] <Flohack> Im waiting for an answer already 1 hr ;)
[10:56] <Frozen_> :/
[10:57] <Flohack> Its awkward I am trying to report a bug from my Ubuntu Phone but I see no way getting it into Launchpad or linking it with an existing bug
[11:19] <ogra_> Flohack, theer is a link in the channel topic .... also you''ll have more luck during the week
[11:20] <Flohack> I know I followed the link already but
[11:20] <Flohack> apport will tell me to enter additional onf in the browser, which of course does not open on the phone
[11:21] <Flohack> Ok I try next week
[11:21] <ogra_> Flohack, ah, well, just use the web form and file it against the canonical-system-images project then ... describe what happens and people will just dort it into the right bucket
[11:22] <Flohack> Basically I have filed in the telegram package already but I wanted to attach the crash report
[11:22] <ogra_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+filebug
[11:22] <Flohack> which I cant do manually it seems
[11:29] <ogra_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+filebug?noredirect
[11:29] <ogra_> try that one
[11:30] <Flohack> Ok I will try
[12:14] <kki> Hi! I've installed chromium-browser on E5, but the keyboard is no launched. Is someone solved this issue?
[12:55] <peat-psuwit> anpok: ping
[12:58] <anpok> peat-psuwit: hi
[12:58] <anpok> yeah looked at your event log
[12:58] <anpok> and that is indeen interesting
[12:59] <anpok> as far as i understand the touch screen driver tries to indicate that the key press is canceled by sending 255 as a release-cancel code...
[13:01] <anpok> peat-psuwit: it would be good if you create a bug report mentioning the device and the event log .. then I will investigate whether we have to add that to libinput and mir event structures - and thus to downstream toolkits.. or we find another solution...
[13:02] <anpok> usually press release is just 1 and 0.. for keys..
[13:06] <peat-psuwit> anpok: Ok, I'll do that.
[13:07] <peat-psuwit> anpok: Anyway I've tried to hack libinput to understand that any value that isn't 1 will be considered release. And it seems to work well.
[13:10] <peat-psuwit> anpok: What package should I file bug against? libinput?
[13:15] <mimecar> hi
[13:44] <peat-psuwit> anpok: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libinput/+bug/1547864
[14:25] <anpok> peat-psuwit: yes .. thanks
[14:36] <Fantome> Hello !
[14:38] <mahen> i bought a dell vostro laptop 3558. i am not able to create my account. only being allowed access as guest. please help.
[14:39] <mahen> anybody ?
[14:41] <Fantome> ^^
[14:41] <Fantome> One here
[14:41] <mahen> hi
[14:42] <Fantome> (not from staff huh, justa  user)
[14:42] <mahen> can u help
[14:43] <Fantome> Don't realy want to say stupid things ^_^ Whats is the os ?(ubuntu i guess ?)
[14:44] <mahen> yes
[14:44] <Fantome> got it from factory ? there is no data on it ?
[14:47] <Fantome> ?
[14:51] <ogra_> mahen, support for non-phone installs is in #ubuntu
[14:56] <mahen> purchased from online shop
[14:56] <mahen> ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[14:57] <ogra_> this channel is for the phone/tablet OS, please go to #ubuntu instead
[14:58] <mahen> ok
[15:08] <Fantome> A simple question (and trycky one :) ): Does ubuntu phone collect your data (in the windows and android style) ?
[15:08] <ogra_> no
[15:08] <ogra_> (simple answer :) )
[15:09] <ogra_> it sends core dumps by default (which you can turn off in the settings), scopes have location detection turned on and can request data from online resources based on that (you can turn that off too) ... thats about it ...
[15:10] <Fantome> Humm, no selling private info so...
[15:10] <Fantome>  i think il try it on my 'old' nexus4 ...
[15:10] <ogra_> beyond that ... apps can indeed do what they want regarding the net but they cant access any system data to data from other apps. and no app can access any hardware resources without telling you with a popup
[15:11] <Fantome> Well thanks Ogra for the answer !
[15:11] <ogra_> :)
[15:13] <Fantome> My other question (hehe) is the os frequently updated ? (is it a main goal of canonical) or is it a side project with only 1 intern working on it ;') ?
[15:13] <ogra_> every 6 weeks usually
[15:14] <ogra_> (sometimes it slips by a week or so if there are harder bugs to fix)
[15:15] <Fantome> Ok so still active project (can't see any news for the ubuntu touch and was wondering where it was going)
[15:16] <ogra_> wow, you cant see any news ?
[15:16] <ogra_> there are three new phones being announced at MWC next week .... and a tablet that can turn into a laptop or full PC
[15:16] <ogra_> the news should actually be full of it :)
[15:17] <Fantome> Ohhh
[15:17] <Fantome> my bad lets forget i said that...
[15:18] <ogra_> heh
[15:20] <Fantome> Well thanks again for the info (and not killing me for my stupidity)
[15:20] <Fantome> Hope the install will go smothly with the tutorial :)
[15:47] <svij> ogra_: three new phones? That new to me.
[15:47] <ogra_> two community ones and the new meizu
[15:47] <svij> ah, counting community ones. :)
[15:47] <svij> you little cheater. :P
[15:49] <ogra_> :)
[15:55] <ment0s_> Hello
[15:58] <ment0s_> could someone tell me what would be the reason for camera not working in oneplusone ? Is this because of proptiery drivers or something else, if so, is there a way to simply load android drvers for ubuntu touch ? I just want linux on oneplus one so I can install motion on it and use it as cctv
[15:59] <ogra_> most likely because the HAL layer hasnt been proted to be used with libhybris yet (which is how ubuntu talks to the HW layer)
[16:01] <ogra_> the camera service is usually special here and needs extra work
[16:05] <ment0s_> ogra_: right, so other handsets have camera working like nexus 4 and 5. Would this mean that the drivers are there but camera app isnt working ?
[16:05] <ogra_> it means the camera app cant talk to the camera service yet ...
[16:07] <ogra_> ubuntu phones use a minimal android container that contains the hardware abstraction layer from android (binary drivers and a few services to configure them and make them work) ... the ubuntu install can talk to that container though a lib called libhybris ... the camera service in the container needs to be taught to accept data from that
[16:07] <ment0s_> right, so If I just need to access /dev/camera0 with motion and drivers are there I could possibly have it working ?
[16:09] <ogra_> no
[16:09] <ogra_> the camera app does not directly use /dev/camera0 but talks to libhybris
[16:10] <ogra_> (like all of the system)
[16:10] <ment0s_> ogra_: ok so there is no chance to simply record from /dev/camera0  or port some programs to use device. In another words there is no /dev/ device that would allow camera to be recorded by programs in shell ?
[16:10] <ogra_> no app can directly access any hardware in ubuntu. no
[16:11] <ogra_> well, from the terminal you can perhaps hack around ...
[16:11] <ment0s_> ogra_: hmm, I give it a try thanks :)
[16:12] <ogra_> (i doubt accessing the device directly will work without having the cameraservice from the container actually turn it on )
[16:13] <ment0s_> ogra_: hmm, any hints how could I enable it ?
[16:13] <ogra_> nope, no idea, not an area i ever worked in
[16:15] <ment0s_> thanks
[16:30] <ment0s_> ok, so flashing bacon using command ubuntu-device-flash --server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed --device=bacon --bootstrap , rebooted to bootloader, all I can see is the .cache/ubuntuimages/pool/device-ad2cea1ffd411b021f0e8699e391e877dacc2da4aea2262d93032ba6944920c1.tar.xz as last line output from terminal. xz was running for a sec and now I can see fastboot
[16:30] <ment0s_> is in top. Does this mean its flashing ? I can see any progress or anyting
[16:33] <ment0s_> is there like verbose for ubuntu-device-flash ?
[16:34] <kki> after finish uploading files, it's going to reboot recovery to flash, and progress bar will be show the progress
[16:35] <sistemx> Hello, I have still problem with install bacon2d, can somebody help? I am desperate :(
[16:42] <ment0s_> kki: ok thanks, I had missing udev rules so fastboot couldnt see device.
[16:44] <sistemx> Hello, I have still problem with install bacon2d, can somebody help? I am desperate :(
[16:55] <ment0s_> ok so flashed on bacon, went into recovery to flash, recovery is just oneplus one logo, adb can access it, at first it was running xz in processes but now it doesnt run any process for flash I think and just sits there. should i ADB reboot manually ?
[17:02] <ment0s_> ok reboot did it. I must say this ubuntu-touch is looking good so far. I was sceptical at first but I can see it works faster than android on baconj
[17:42] <Fantome> Hello (/hello back ) !
[17:43] <mimecar> hi Fantome
[17:44] <Fantome> Did my install on my nexus 4 A new ubuntu touch is born :) !
[17:45] <mimecar> that is good
[17:45] <taiebot> Welcome Fantome
[17:48] <mimecar> At first may seem a little strange ubuntu touch
[17:48] <Fantome> eveything seems to be working (was quite surprised from the native browser (expected to see firefox))
[17:49] <taiebot> taiebot wish for an update which will speed up start up of apps.
[17:53] <Fantome> Hum, just have to remove this horrible haptic feedback that everyone loves :')
[18:00] <Fantome> Nice base, still work to do (just freezed going  in the ringtones of the phone :') )
[18:03] <Eru> hello, I'd like to ask if OTA 9.5 is already out, because from my BQ E5 it says there aren't any new updates
[18:05] <Eru> and I can't find any news from the internet
[18:22] <Fantome> Well, good evening !
[19:10] <mimecar> Has anyone read the book The ubuntu user interface phone and has algunda questions or suggestions?
[19:10] <mimecar> I would like to know the chapters to add to or correct errors book
[19:11] <mimecar> "The user interface of Ubuntu Phone" :p
[19:18] <stakewinner00> which book is that?
[19:18] <mimecar> https://www.gitbook.com/book/mimecar/ubuntu-phone-ui/details
[19:18] <mimecar> it is related withth euser interface
[19:18] <mimecar> is a work in progress
[19:33] <stakewinner00> mimecar, voy a ver
[19:34] <mimecar> the book is in english and in spanish
[19:35] <stakewinner00> i know
[20:28] <rh300zx> hello all can anyone help me with proting touch nee some pointers
[20:28] <rh300zx> porting sorry
[20:29] <rh300zx> i have vs985 locked bootloader but think i can bump the boot
[20:30] <rh300zx> i followed the guide and secure boot crashed it have it fixed now on cm13 with twrp
[20:32] <rh300zx> i want to try another build but want to make sure im building correctly
[20:32] <rh300zx> then bump boot before flash
[20:33] <rh300zx> anyone willing to help me out itd be greatly appreciated
[21:42] <moritz31> hey guys i have an easy question, is it possible to setup an ubuntu-touch dev environment unter debian ?
[22:07] <moritz31> no one ?
[23:35] <Spacedogg_iie> hi guys, my BQ 4.5 froze, how can i reboot it?
[23:41] <Elleo> Spacedogg_iie: holding down the power button should cause it to power off
[23:45] <Spacedogg_iie> nope :(
[23:46] <Spacedogg_iie> ... yep
[23:46] <Spacedogg_iie> lol
[23:46] <Spacedogg_iie> it works now! lolol
[23:46] <Spacedogg_iie> thanks
[23:46]  * Spacedogg_iie is dumbass I guess