[11:08] <Kilos> afternoon everyone
[11:09] <Kilos> Maaz seen superfly
[11:09] <Maaz> Kilos: superfly was last seen 23 hours, 24 minutes and 8 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-02-20 03:45:06 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2016-02-21 02:05:48 PST
[11:09] <Kilos> oh my where my fly
[11:09] <Kilos> chesedo meeting tuesday night hey
[11:10] <Kilos> did you see the addition to the agenda
[12:06] <magespawn> good afternoon
[12:20] <theblazehen> hi magespawn
[12:21] <Kilos> hi magespawn theblazehen 
[12:21] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[13:03] <Kilos> ssd's are a different kinda storage device hey
[13:03] <Kilos> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSD_memory_cell_clearing
[13:04] <theblazehen> Kilos: Yeah. But as long as TRIM is enabled you don't need to worry about it. With modern SSDs it'll even do okay without TRIM, but obviously having it on is better
[13:09] <Kilos> haha i have no idea even what trim is or how to turn it on
[13:10] <Kilos> and whether the badblocs command works on them
[13:10] <Kilos> and caddies for lenovo lapptops are expensive
[13:16] <Kilos> http://www.howtogeek.com/176978/ubuntu-doesnt-trim-ssds-by-default-why-not-and-how-to-enable-it-yourself/
[13:16] <Kilos> that might help
[13:23] <Kilos> sudo fstrim -v / seems to be the command to use
[13:24] <Kilos> im not gonna worry about cron jobs
[13:29] <theblazehen> Yeah, your fs should automatically be using discard I think, so no worry about it
[13:36] <theblazehen> Hi SubOracle
[13:37] <theblazehen> superfly *
[13:37] <theblazehen> Tab complete..
[13:37] <superfly> hi theblazehen
[13:37] <superfly> just reinstalled my server, got my IRC logs back, yay!
[13:42] <Kilos> wb superfly 
[13:42] <superfly> thanks
[13:49] <theblazehen> superfly: Which client do you use?
[13:52] <superfly> theblazehen: quassel
[13:53] <theblazehen> Nice. Same here. Wish it had a cli client though.. My terminal looks rather nice if I say so myself
[13:55] <theblazehen> https://i.imgur.com/Q3Px0et.png
[13:57] <theblazehen> one background: https://i.imgur.com/6IQfuwP.jpg . New one is generated every minute with cron job
[14:28] <superfly> theblazehen: https://github.com/magne4000/quassel-webserver
[14:30] <theblazehen> superfly: Doesn't look too bad, local client is alright. Would still like to be able to use say weechat or irssi with it though
[14:31] <superfly> I hear you
[14:31] <superfly> the problem with weechat and irssi is that they are fully-fledged IRC clients. you are basically looking for a terminal-based quassel client :-)
[14:33] <theblazehen> Yup, exactly. Would like it if quassel could also act as a normal bouncer
[14:33] <superfly> sadly, my googling is not turning anything up
[14:34] <theblazehen> Yeah, there's also smuxi, but that doesn't have much in the way of android clients etc
[15:24] <Kilos> i am gona swop drives and see how ssd is doing
[15:24] <Kilos> bbl
[15:24] <Kilos> Maaz watch them
[15:24] <Maaz> oh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!
[15:36] <Kilos> ssd rather lots faster
[15:36] <Kilos> the trim command trimmed lots
[15:37] <Kilos> 103902941184 bytes were trimmed
[15:38] <Kilos> pity they so expensive
[15:48] <magespawn> hi all
[15:57] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[15:58] <magespawn> i missed all that other converstion, my computer froze
[15:58] <magespawn> conversation too
[15:58] <Kilos> konversation
[15:59] <Kilos> sorry i cant help, moved to ssd
[15:59] <Kilos> theblazehen can you fill magespawn in please
[15:59] <superfly> hi Kilos, magespawn
[15:59] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[16:00] <theblazehen> Kilos: Hmm, client lost my logs when internet went out :/ sorry
[16:00] <Kilos> ouch
[16:00] <magespawn> hi superfly
[16:00] <magespawn> no worries
[16:00] <magespawn> hi theblazehen 
[16:00] <Kilos> we spoke about getting ssds to perform better magespawn 
[16:00] <Kilos> command is
[16:00] <theblazehen> Hi magespawn
[16:00] <Kilos> sudo fstrim -v /
[16:01] <theblazehen> fstrim, yeah. Kilos if you have discard for your drive options in /etc/fstab then you're good
[16:01] <Kilos> works on older drives that have had things deleted
[16:01] <Kilos> lemme look there
[16:03] <Kilos> nope theblazehen 
[16:04] <Kilos> http://bin.snyman.info/mmm8f3gc
[16:04] <Kilos> superfly i like your im not a robot goodie
[16:04] <Kilos> better than those crooked letters i battle to see
[16:05] <magespawn> i have two new toys, a nas enclosure and a raspberry B+
[16:05] <Kilos> im trying to member what a nas enclosure is
[16:06] <magespawn> Network Attached Storage
[16:06] <Kilos> with a drive in
[16:06] <Kilos> that crazy guy was marketing them
[16:06] <magespawn> yes, it is an old one so only takes ide, has an 80 gig in it at the moment
[16:07] <Kilos> then i know what you are talking about
[16:07] <Kilos> handy to have
[16:08] <Kilos> ide drives are cheap compared to ssd
[16:08] <Kilos> i bought a 1TB drive for same price as a second hand 128g ssd
[16:08] <Kilos> now to see how long it lasts
[16:09] <magespawn> always handy to have more storage
[16:09] <theblazehen> Kilos: change the errors... to discard,errors...
[16:13] <Kilos> ok ty
[16:14] <Kilos> this line theblazehen 
[16:15] <Kilos> UUID=aeb4d033-ce06-4a07-b05b-af3427e412e4 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[16:19] <Kilos> only place i see errors
[16:24] <theblazehen> yes
[16:24] <Kilos> ty
[16:24] <theblazehen> so discard,errors=remount-ro
[16:24] <theblazehen> Cool
[16:24] <Kilos> ty lad
[16:34] <Kilos> hi zipper 
[17:06] <Kilos> Maaz seen inetpro 
[17:06] <Maaz> Kilos: inetpro was last seen 3 hours, 41 minutes and 51 seconds ago in private on freenode [2016-02-21 05:24:17 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2016-02-17 03:50:33 PST
[17:06] <Kilos> aw missed him
[17:06] <Kilos> hi there inetpro 
[17:07] <Kilos> laptops have many drawbacks, you cant just plug in and extra drive to work on
[17:29] <magespawn> i have seen a few that have had an extra space for another drive
[17:30] <magespawn> i also saw, somewhere, a way to remove the cd rom so that you could have an extra drive
[17:31] <theblazehen> magespawn: Yeah, think cd rom is normally sata? In that case, worst case just some duct tape or something 
[17:33] <Kilos> ydes but you need what they call a caddy to put an extra drive in place of the dvd
[17:33] <Kilos> and that around R1500
[17:33] <theblazehen> Kilos: I think you can make do with DIY though?
[17:34] <Kilos> most likely if the connectors are the same you could pad it up with some polystyrene strips i suppose
[17:34] <Kilos> will look into that
[17:35] <theblazehen> Yeah, I think it should be the same
[17:36] <Kilos> ill femove this dvd and look
[17:36] <Kilos> remove
[17:36] <theblazehen> Otherwise you could always put the normal hard drive in a usb enclosure or something?
[17:37] <Kilos> Cryterion you on another pc?
[17:37] <Kilos> where is your cloak
[17:38] <Cryterion> Kilos no same one
[17:38] <Kilos> oh my
[17:38] <Cryterion> having a look now
[17:38] <Kilos> cloak missing
[17:39] <Kilos> it didnt even say changing host
[17:40] <Kilos> thats better
[17:40] <Kilos> what was wrong
[17:41] <Cryterion> restarted client
[17:41] <Cryterion> don't think I had since it was activated
[17:42] <Kilos> oh my
[17:43] <Cryterion> going to check on my troops, here but not here ;)
[17:43] <Kilos> huh
[17:43] <Cryterion> illyriad
[17:43] <Kilos> oh kids
[17:43] <Kilos> whats that
[17:44] <Cryterion> not, dropped them off at home already
[17:44] <Cryterion> illyriad is a deep strategy mmorts game based in ancient times
[17:44] <Cryterion> http://www.illyriad.co.uk
[17:45] <Kilos> online game?
[17:45] <Cryterion> yes
[17:45] <Kilos> aw
[17:45] <Cryterion> browser based
[17:46] <Kilos> i love those games but online is not an option
[17:46] <Kilos> 0ad is at least in the repos
[17:46] <Kilos> you uncapped peeps are spoiled
[17:48] <Cryterion> 0ad is yes, never got far with it yet, was still thinking of setting up a basic server to start learning online based game programming, just not much time atm
[17:48] <Kilos> lol
[17:49] <Cryterion> uncapped only works if the wire aren't corroded, 2nd time this year telkom has been out to fix wire at the pole
[17:49] <Kilos> ouch
[17:50] <Cryterion> the get 1 more quick fix, then they gotta change the cable
[17:50] <Kilos> lol
[17:50] <Kilos> maintenance is poor on everything
[17:50] <Cryterion> only 3 pairs in the cable I think, on the 2nd, if third is still there
[17:51] <Kilos> no chance of getting ftth
[17:51] <Cryterion> I give it 2 months, and I'll log a breakdown
[17:51] <Kilos> i saw an add somewhere , someone was offering free ftth for test purposes
[17:52] <Cryterion> ftth?
[17:52] <Kilos> fibre to the home
[17:52] <Cryterion> not yet there
[17:52] <Kilos> maybe mweb or one of them
[17:52] <Cryterion> lines aren't laid yet
[17:53] <Kilos> ai!
[17:53] <Cryterion> the fibre went south coast of Durban first, nothing more as yet
[17:53] <Kilos> ah
[17:54] <Cryterion> toti might have, but it was more the scottburgh area they set it up
[17:54] <Kilos> haha the diva learned ninja moves from watching ninja movies
[17:54] <Cryterion> lol
[17:55] <Cryterion> And I don't see telkom, or their subs digging anywhere, only water pipes being fixed
[17:56] <Kilos> eish
[17:56] <Kilos> oh well you young enough
[17:56] <Kilos> maybe one day
[17:56] <Cryterion> I drive around, so get to see
[17:56] <Cryterion> roads being laid twice in a year
[17:56] <Cryterion> grrr
[17:56] <Kilos> wow
[17:57] <Kilos> half jobs
[17:57] <Cryterion> then they decide they need to dig one half up to replace a pipe
[17:57] <Kilos> haha
[17:57] <Cryterion> so the road f'd afterwards anyway
[17:58] <Kilos> yeah
[17:59] <Kilos> i dont understand them all, the durbs to pmb concrete road was built very many years ago with minimum maintenance needed but thats the only place that has done it
[18:29] <inetpro> guten abend
[18:33] <inetpro> yes and that counts for you as well oom Kilos
[18:34] <Kilos> haha ty inetpro 
[18:34] <inetpro> you guys all asleep here or what?
[18:34] <Kilos> or what
[18:34] <inetpro> ai!
[18:34]  * inetpro sukkel
[18:34] <Kilos> met wat
[18:34] <inetpro> met julle
[18:35] <Kilos> go pm
[18:35] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel
[18:35] <inetpro> lyk my hier gaan niks aan as ek weg is nie man
[18:35] <Kilos> hahaha i told you you are important
[18:35] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:38] <inetpro> so what else did I miss here?
[18:40] <Kilos> lots
[18:40] <Kilos> meeting in 2 days
[18:40] <Kilos> oh
[18:40] <Kilos> and btw 
[18:40] <Kilos> where were you
[18:40]  * inetpro has always been here
[18:41] <Kilos> nono
[18:41] <Kilos> i pinged you a few times with no reply
[18:41] <inetpro> oh my...
[18:41] <inetpro> sorry oom
[18:41] <Kilos> so where were you
[18:42] <inetpro> watching cricket, and 
[18:42] <inetpro> watching cricket, and...
[18:42] <Kilos> hahahahaha
[18:42] <Kilos> oh my
[18:42] <Kilos> geeks dont do sport
[18:42] <inetpro> ai!
[18:42] <Kilos> todays game was exciting
[18:42] <inetpro> very!
[18:43] <inetpro> giving us some hope again
[18:43] <Kilos> yeah
[18:43] <inetpro> now we just need to play like that when it counts
[18:43] <Kilos> but makes me wonder what happened in the tests
[18:45] <inetpro> it's a young team, they needed to build a bit of new character before...
[18:45] <Kilos> haha
[18:45] <inetpro> I think we have a classy team in the making
[18:46] <Kilos> definitely
[18:46] <Kilos> T20 cup looks promising
[18:46] <inetpro> for sure
[18:48] <Kilos> i gonna sleep soon
[18:48] <Kilos> you all have a good evening and rest for the week ahead
[18:48] <Kilos> you too superfly 
[18:48] <superfly> night Kilos
[18:48] <superfly> will do
[18:49] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:49] <Kilos> that counts for you as well inetpro 
[18:49] <Kilos> hehe
[18:49] <inetpro> oh, good night oom
[18:49] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:44] <Cryterion> Kilos am I still cloaked?
[19:46] <Cryterion> hmm, he's not here
[19:46] <Cryterion> can anyone else check?
[20:24] <superfly> Cryterion: not at the moment