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mvokyrofa: hi, the latest os update should contain an updated snappy (iirc you asked about this last week)05:11
zygagood morning07:53
mvohey zyga, good morning07:55
dholbachgood morning08:19
noizergood morning :D08:27
clobranohi all! Is it possible to connect to webdm server from a kvm virtual machine with snappy? I tried but it does not seem to work.10:19
stevebiscuitclobrano: do you have a route to port 4200 setup? I'm not using KVM myself but there's some info in the README: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/webdm/trunk/view/head:/README.md#L5310:27
clobranothanks stevebiscuit! Sure, I saw that bug and I run the KVM with this command kvm -m 768 -redir :8022::22 -redir :4200::4200 -hda snappy.img, but I still couldn't connect. I saw that the syslog shows an error like "job webdm failed with result 'dependency' http://paste.ubuntu.com/15169482/10:30
clobranostevebiscuit: but no idea about what does that mean10:31
ogra_looks broken10:31
stevebiscuitclobrano, ogra_: yeah, that systemd error seems ominous, looks like it might not be able to start the web app10:42
stevebiscuitclobrano: is there a `snappyd` running?10:42
clobranostevebiscuit: yes systemd is running10:44
clobranostevebiscuit: well, I'm basically able to do everything I need, just can't connect to webdm10:45
stevebiscuitclobrano: systemd or snappyd ?10:46
ogra_how did you install it ... and is that a 16.04 or the old 15.04 ?10:46
clobranostevebiscuit: sorry a typo, snappyd is running10:46
clobranoogra_: is a kvm virtual machine with 15.0410:47
clobranoogra_: I created it with this command kvm -m 768 -redir :8022::22 -redir :4200::4200 -hda snappy.img10:47
ogra_why the -hda ?10:47
ogra_(i doubt it breaks anything, butu not needed)10:48
clobranoogra_: I tried also without -hda, I took it from Bug #142502110:57
ubottubug 1425021 in Snappy "KVM instructions not setup for use of WebDM" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142502110:57
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noizerzyga can you help for building the snappy environment with your branch?12:19
kyrofaGood morning12:38
kyrofamvo, indeed, thank you!12:38
noizerDoes anyone know when zyga will be back?12:41
noizeris it normal that i can't install webdm on 16.04?13:13
kyrofaHey noizer. Can you be more specific? How does it not install? An error? Can it not be found?13:27
kyrofaWhat architecture are you using?13:28
noizerwebdm failed to install: can not open /tmp/webdm995163236: cannot open snap: unknown header: "!<arch>\ndebian-binar"13:28
noizerI'm using 16.04 roling rpi213:28
kyrofanoizer, it's possible that webdm needs to be repackaged and re-uploaded after some snappy changes13:29
ogra_noizer, webdm is 15.04 onlyyet ... i think stevebiscuit works on a 16.04 version13:30
noizerok xD13:30
kyrofastevebiscuit, do you know anything about that? ^^13:32
kyrofaOh, thanks ogra_13:32
kyrofaI just spent far too long trying to figure out what his handle was :P13:32
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stevebiscuitkyrofa: that's pretty much the last piece of functionality I've to migrate over to the snapd API13:50
kyrofastevebiscuit, excellent. Is the progress feedback still a poll-only interface?13:52
stevebiscuitkyrofa: the API will soon be using websockets though the front-end JavaScript will likely still poll the WebDM backend13:54
kyrofastevebiscuit, ah, okay13:54
kyrofadholbach, you know when you're an elite, dedicated member of the Snappy team when...14:36
* dholbach hugs kyrofa :)14:36
* kyrofa hugs dholbach 14:37
davmor2kyrofa: put him down you don't know where dholbach 's been ;)14:49
kyrofadavmor2, don't be jealous14:49
davmor2kyrofa: dholbach's awesome and he knows it, I tell him too many times for it to of not sunk in :)14:51
* dholbach hugs you all :)14:56
kyrofajdstrand, did you ever figure out anything more regarding bug #1467595?15:22
ubottubug 1467595 in xorg (Ubuntu) "cursor sometimes disappears on XPS 13 9343 and external monitor" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146759515:22
jdstrandkyrofa: it stopped in later releases15:23
kyrofajdstrand, urgh... so wily it wasn't an issue?15:23
jdstrandI feel like wily was good. xenial still is15:23
jdstrandlet me check something15:23
kyrofajdstrand, definitely reason enough to update, then15:24
kyrofajdstrand, I'm still on trusty and it's killing me15:24
jdstrandyeah that bug is seriously annoying15:25
jdstrandkyrofa: I have in my notes "this seems to be improved with the 4.2 kernel"15:28
jdstrandkyrofa: that is what is in wily btw15:28
jdstrandI also commented in the bug15:28
kyrofajdstrand, you commented to that effect with 4.1, but then you later commented saying nevermind15:29
jdstrandI did15:29
jdstrandI did, and I have notes that say that 4.1 was better but still happened15:29
kyrofajdstrand, and 4.2 it hasn't happened at all?15:30
jdstrandI think wily was ok-- I upgraded to xenial a while ago though, so I can't recall. I never see it any more15:30
jdstrandkyrofa: I *think* so15:30
kyrofajdstrand, alright, good to know15:30
jdstrandyou could try the wily lts kernel15:30
kyrofajdstrand, yeah good plan15:31
jdstrandyou might need to snag some other stuff too-- eg the bcmwl modules and maybe linux-firmware15:31
kyrofajdstrand, there's another issue that's been killing me too-- occasionally when coming back from sleep (or when initially logging in) and plugged into my external 4k monitor, X just crashes. Did that ever happen to you?15:32
jdstrandI think I just needed bcmwl for my wifi and linux-firmware wasn't needed15:32
kyrofajdstrand, yeah I'll need bcmwl as well15:32
jdstrandkyrofa: yes. that still sometimes happens. I feel like perhaps less on xenial, but quite sure I've seen it15:32
kyrofajdstrand, did you ever make an issue for that? Or shall I?15:33
jdstrandkyrofa: this is my latest annoyance: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/154761915:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1547619 in linux (Ubuntu Xenial) "Intermittent screen blinking with 4k external mini display port with 4.4 kernels" [Medium,In progress]15:33
kyrofaUgh, that sounds awful15:33
kyrofaHahaha, 4k is so bad15:33
jdstrand4.3 didn't have that behavior15:33
jdstrand(or 4.2)15:34
kyrofa4.2-4.3 is the sweet spot, eh?15:34
jdstrandthus far15:34
jdstrand4.4 has been ok except for that new bug, and I'm testing bisected kernels, etc15:34
jdstrandxenial should be decent in the end15:35
jdstrandkyrofa: I didn't create a bug15:35
jdstrand(for the crash)15:35
jdstrandI couldn't find a solid reproducer15:35
kyrofajdstrand, oh man, that's easy-- unplug and plug the external until crash. I'll make one :)15:36
kyrofajdstrand, I'll make it for trusty, and then perhaps you can comment and whine about wily and xenial too15:36
jdstrandI don't think I've seena crash with 4.4-- what happens is coming back from suspend the external monitor blanks and unblanks a few times and comes back. of course, the the crash is pretty infrequent for me, so I just might not have hit it yet15:37
jdstrandhotplugging is the next bug I plan to file-- if I hotplug the xrandr stuff doesn't work right and I get a dialog saying so and the screen stretched all weird. if I press 'Enter' to dismiss the dialog, it all snaps back15:38
jdstrandI wonder if that is the same bug and the dialog is preventing the crash by stopping before it would crash...15:38
kyrofajdstrand, huh, yeah that's interesting. I'm not sure I've ever seen a popup about that15:39
jdstrandyeah, new in xenial15:39
jdstrandwily didn't have it15:39
kyrofajdstrand, yeah I bet so then!15:39
jdstrand(and I definitely recall crashes on wily)15:39
kyrofaVeeery interesting...15:39
* jdstrand nods15:40
kyrofajdstrand, maybe we can compare logs. I'll get back to you when I make the bug15:40
kyrofajdstrand, it's nice to have someone else who can share my pain15:41
kyrofaNow if you'll excuse me, I need to logout so my mouse pointer comes back from vacation15:41
jdstrandkyrofa: heh, :\15:43
jdstrandkyrofa: good luck!15:43
kyrofajdstrand, all good now. Time to fire everything back up now...15:44
Sweet5harksnapcraft 2.2.2/xenial: I have lots of libs in stage/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu and "snap: - usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/*" in snapcraft.yaml. why are those not in the image15:50
Sweet5harkogra_: ^^ any hints?15:53
kyrofaSweet5hark, check the snap folder15:57
kyrofaSweet5hark, let me turn that into a question. Are you placing those libs manually?15:58
kyrofaSweet5hark, or is it via stage-packages?15:59
kyrofa(or from src)15:59
Sweet5harkkyrofa: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1548376 <- filed it as a bug. IMHO this needs a whole matrix of "in build-pkg"/"in stage-pkg"/"dep of build-pkg"/"dep of stage-pkg"/"in snap glob"/"in directory matched by snap glob" for "ends up in stage" and "ends up in snap" each ...16:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1548376 in Snapcraft "docs/snapcraft-syntax.md should explicitly name the conditions under which a file is expected to end up in stage/ and snap/" [Undecided,New]16:38
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wiglewormanyone around that can help with a snapcraft question22:17
mikenwigleworm: Hi - try just asking your question perhaps. I'm not sure if there are people around who can answer, but you'll have more chance of getting an answer if there are :)22:49
qenghowigleworm: Yeah, just ask. Don't demand someone commit to answering something in advance.22:51
jdstrandpindonga (and beuno): hi! can you pull the review tools? this adds all the snap v2 checks I've been working on23:23

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