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Sweet5harkgood morning, desktoppers!07:31
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seb128good morning desktopers08:29
hikikogppd morning seb128 :)08:32
hikikogood morning* :p08:32
seb128hey hikiko, how are you?08:33
seb128had a good w.e?08:33
hikikoit was fine, how about you?08:34
hikikoTrevinho, here? :)08:36
seb128It was good, thanks08:37
seb128Trevinho, it's a bit earlir for him no? ;-)08:38
hikikotrue :)08:40
hikikoI was just checking!08:40
hikiko(hopes.. :D)08:41
hikikoseb128, are you able to reproduce the black dots bug in nautilus?08:42
hikikohttps://imgur.com/a/nmzZU here's what I see in my case, but I have reproduced the problem in the past08:42
seb128hikiko, I don't know what bug you are talking about sorry08:42
hikikoseb128, when you start nautilus or another gtk program08:42
hikikothat has alpha08:43
hikikoaround the window08:43
hikikoyou see some black dots or a black frame depending on the decoration08:43
hikikoaround it08:43
hikikolike alpha is not working08:43
hikikoI could reproduce that a week ago but now I can't08:43
hikikoseb128, I reproduced it with gthumb, we might just changed the nautilus settings :)08:46
seb128hikiko, nautilus in xenial has been reverted to a version that doesn't use CSD decorations08:46
seb128so maybe that's it08:46
hikikoyes that's it for sure :)08:47
hikikothanks :)08:47
Sweet5harkgood morning seb128, hikko!08:52
seb128hey Sweet5hark! how are you? had a good w.e?08:52
* Sweet5hark started off the week by filing two snapcraft bugs ;)08:52
Sweet5harkseb128: w.e. was okish -- help my brother to move to a new home all Saturday long. Was regenerating from back, arm and leg pain on Sunday ;)08:54
seb128some excercice is nice ;-)08:54
Sweet5harkseb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/xenial/5.1.0/libreoffice_5.1.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes and http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/xenial/5.1.0/libreoffice-l10n_5.1.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes have enough fixes for an new upload IMHO. Two changes in there might be debatable as needing a FFE (or needing to be removed).08:56
seb128Sweet5hark, the "add google drive bits" one?08:58
seb128we were on the rc for that serie, let's not argue about the update to stable ;-)08:58
seb128I'm going to sponsor that08:58
Sweet5harkOh, hang on, that is still missing the bug id -- I thought I uploaded with that fixed in the changelog.08:59
seb128Sweet5hark, so you want to update with a changelog bug reference? let me know when you get the new version ready09:02
Sweet5harkseb128: aye09:02
Laneywhat's up!09:04
seb128hey Laney! happy monday09:05
seb128had a good w.e?09:05
Laneyhey seb128!09:10
Laneyvery good thanks - rosie's parents were up and we went to a beer festival on saturday09:10
Laneysome walking yesterday09:10
Laneythen friends for dinner in the evening09:10
Laneywhat about you?09:10
seb128w.e was good, though I've a cold again, that's starting being annoying09:12
seb128we went to see movies on saturday&sunday evening, that was nice09:12
seb128and had friends for lunch in sunday09:12
Laneygood films?09:12
seb128"spotlight" & "hail, caesar!"09:13
seb128I recommend them09:13
seb128well, the second one is from the Coen brothers, if you don't like their previous movies/style maybe not09:14
seb128but we enjoyed it :-)09:14
Laneyoh yeah, I've only seen a couple of their films but they were good09:17
Laneythink fargo was by them09:17
ogra_o brother where are thou' as well iirc09:17
* Laney is bad at having seen films09:17
* ogra_ shakes his head about linuxmint ... oh my ... 09:19
seb128what did they do?09:20
ogra_they ran their whole website on an outdated wordpress install it seems ... got hacked and someone changed the download link to his own server witrh modified iso (with IRCbot preinstalled)09:21
ogra_since theyx only offer an unsigned md5sum file next tro the isos people only noticed it after a day09:21
ogra_seems additzionally these guys downloaded their whole password db and the forum content too09:21
seb128their approach to security seems a bit naive09:23
ogra_haha, you're so diplomatic :)09:23
pittihey ogra_, seb128, Laney! happy spring day!09:24
ogra_oooh !09:24
* seb128 looks outside09:24
ogra_*that* is why the birds are singing so loud !09:24
seb128hey pitti ;-)09:24
pittiogra_: yeah, it was quite a nuisance this morning indeed :)09:25
seb128happyaron, could you have a look to bug #1547826? do we build ibus without indicator support?  since when?09:55
ubot5bug 1547826 in ibus (Ubuntu) "Enable libappindicator support" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154782609:55
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seb128did we stop autosyncs yet?10:06
seb128oh, gst 1.7 is in experimental10:07
seb128Laney, I guess those are on your list?10:07
pittiseb128: we are in FF, so I hope we did10:12
* pitti asks in #u-devel10:13
seb128pitti, the new upower seems to have an issue, bug #1547793 and ubiquity tops daily e.u.c on xenial with upower errors10:26
ubot5bug 1547793 in upower (Ubuntu) "upowerd crashed with SIGSEGV in g_variant_is_trusted()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154779310:26
seb128there was a new version of thursday, maybe a regression?10:26
seb128oh, not a trivial update, port to gdbus10:27
Sweet5harkseb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/xenial/5.1.0/libreoffice-l10n_5.1.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/xenial/5.1.0/libreoffice_5.1.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes -- now with the right bug id for the google stuff ...10:36
seb128Sweet5hark, great10:36
pittiseb128: adding to TODO list, thanks10:37
seb128pitti, yw, sorry I more pinging to know if you knew about some issue with the update than to dump work on you, I'm going to try to have a look after lunch10:37
seb128but e.u.c doesn't have reports for upower itself and the ubiquity out just fail to use the dbus service but have no useful info/journal/log10:38
Trevinhoseb128: hey11:01
Trevinhoseb128: do you want me to open a lp bug to get https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk%2B/commit/?id=1dda932 backported? tjaalton would need that to migrate to new xserver...11:01
Trevinhowhatever... it's at https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/154827211:05
ubot5Launchpad bug 1548272 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Gdk screen has invalid output plug name when using randr 1.5" [High,In progress]11:05
desrtgood morning!11:11
tjaaltonTrevinho, seb128: the followup patch is probably desired as well11:41
Trevinhotjaalton: it has to11:41
tjaaltonleak fixes and cleanups11:42
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dokoSweet5hark, ping about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/148714812:28
ubot5Launchpad bug 1487148 in fonts-stix (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fonts-stix -- to replace xfonts-mathml" [Undecided,Incomplete]12:28
seb128Trevinho, hey, I already uploaded that fix this morning12:29
seb128hey tjaalton andyrock12:29
Trevinhoseb128: oh, cool.. You're faster than me checking the changelog :-D12:33
seb128we are just on slightly shifted work timezones :p12:34
Trevinhoseb128: however we'd also need https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/1548272/comments/1 :/12:35
ubot5Launchpad bug 1547510 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1548272 tracker for xorg-server 1.18 migration" [High,Triaged]12:35
Trevinhoseb128: ahaha, yeah, sort of :-D12:35
TrevinhoThere are also north/south timezones nowadays12:35
seb128Trevinho, how big is the leak? also can you ask mclasen to commit those to 3-18?12:35
Trevinhoseb128: ok12:36
Trevinhoseb128: well, not that big... But you know.... Leaks aren't nice.12:37
Trevinhoit's one time per instance, but still..12:37
seb128Trevinho, right, I'm not saying we are going to not fix it, just wondering if we should block the update or if we can do a follow up in some hours12:37
seb128looks like we can let it there for a few hours it's not the end of the world12:38
Trevinhoseb128: oh, no... Nothing to be worried to block the update12:38
Trevinhoyeah, indeed12:38
tjaaltonthe blocker is now elsewhere12:40
Laneyseb128: yes, of course, I already talked to slomo about it, done now :-)12:42
* Laney wasn't looking at irc12:42
seb128Laney, I saw your gstreamer sync earlier and took that as a reply :p12:42
Laneyhad to deal with the unforwarded touch patches again12:43
Laney"good" "times"12:43
Sweet5harkdoko: Hm? ubuntu desktop bugs is subscribed to fonts-stix? what is missing? the metadiscussion on the bug about how and what to subscribe is a bit openended and vague to me ...12:48
dokoSweet5hark, ohh, I see. nobody updated the issue12:48
Sweet5harkdoko: np, thanks for watching out.12:52
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seb128hum, glib migration seems blocked by some strongswan issue :-/13:06
seb128which is blocking the gtk update13:06
hikikois willcooke off today?13:09
Sweet5harkhikiko: MWC IIRC13:10
Sweet5harkso what the branch to pull from to suggest a change to ubuntu-seeds/xenial? all I find is outdated references and a naive lp:ubuntu/xenial/ubuntu-meta has no luck finding a branch ...13:15
Laneynot sure about strongswan13:18
Laneyit works here13:18
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seb128Laney, should we just retry?13:23
seb128Sweet5hark, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement#Changing_the_Seeds13:24
Sweet5harkseb128: thx13:26
Sweet5harkwoa, snappy crashes right away when run on xenial (in a VM)13:33
Sweet5harkurgh, thats not the snappy im looking for.13:35
ogra_Sweet5hark, using mvo's all-snaps image ?13:35
ogra_(soon to be the default)13:36
Laneyseb128: I did already13:36
ogra_Sweet5hark, thats how i run it "kvm -m 512 -redir :8022::22 ./amd64-all-snap.img"13:36
Laneybut my local thing didn't get glib from proposed13:37
Sweet5harkogra_: where do I get a good 16.04 ubuntu core image for vagrant?13:37
ogra_Sweet5hark, no idea, never used vagrant ... i think you can convert the amd64 one somehow13:37
Sweet5harkogra_: urgh13:38
ogra_in any case you should use the all--snaps image ... all others will be dropped before release13:38
Sweet5harkogra_: hmm, so how do I deploy a snap to classic .deb-based Desktop? Or isnt that production-ready yet?13:53
* Laney runs this strongswan test on real scalingstack13:54
Laneyalso without new glib to check it is this13:54
ogra_Sweet5hark, ask the desktop guys ... nothing i worked on ... i can tell you how to enable the classic dimension on the snappy image to use debs though :)13:59
ogra_(sudo snappy enable-classic; snappy shell classic; sudo apt-get install snapcraft ... )14:00
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Laneyfailed with the old glib too14:02
Laneywwwwwwwhat is this14:02
Laneyoh COME ON!14:12
abeato_mdeslaur, hey, I have a patch for ntp package to fix lp #1526264 (see comment #2), mind taking a look?14:12
ubot5Launchpad bug 1526264 in Canonical System Image "ntpdate fails with invalid argument when device is set to a date in the future (delta > 2^16)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152626414:12
mdeslaurabeato_: I don't know anything about ntp, perhaps someone in foundations can take a look?14:14
abeato_mdeslaur, please suggest somebody :)14:14
mdeslaurabeato_: ask slangasek in #ubuntu-devel to assign someone to look at it14:16
abeato_mdeslaur, I'll do, thanks14:16
seb128you can also subscribe ubuntu-sponsors14:16
seb128that never hurts14:16
seb128is changing a library soname (poppler) considered as a feature/needs an exception by the simple fact that the soname changes and transitions are work?14:37
seb128there are no real changes in poppler itself than can qualify as new features, but they don't give stability for their private lib and tend to bump sonames14:38
xnoxi think that's fine, as long as the diff is obvious. And it's not like 100k lines lets add new stuff.14:41
seb128Trevinho, andyrock, do you have any idea when https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/unity/gs-integration/+merge/286653 should be ready to land? the current xenial iso don't have s-c anymore so unity is buggy/the launcher has no icon for the new software store, would be nice to fix that before beta1 this week14:59
seb128Trevinho, andyrock, also https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/unity/format-option/+merge/283741 ... we are in ff now, is that still wanted for this cycle?15:01
seb128and https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/unity/unity-sn/+merge/28332215:02
dokoseb128, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-icon-theme/3.12.0-1ubuntu3  stuck in -proposed. why not provide the -full version?15:15
dokotrying: gnome-icon-theme15:15
dokoskipped: gnome-icon-theme (50 <- 1)15:15
doko    got: 158+0: a-50:a-18:a-17:i-16:p-19:p-19:s-1915:15
doko    * amd64: gnome-brave-icon-theme, gnome-colors, gnome-colors-common, gnome-dust-icon-theme, gnome-human-icon-theme, gnome-illustrious-icon-theme, gnome-noble-icon-theme, gnome-wine-icon-theme, gnome-wise-icon-theme, pyhoca-gui, shiki-brave-theme, shiki-colors, shiki-dust-theme, shiki-human-theme, shiki-illustrious-theme, shiki-noble-theme, shiki-wine-theme, shiki-wise-theme15:15
seb128doko, we do provide it15:15
dokohmm, but why is it stuck?15:15
seb128likely something having a versioned depends15:16
seb128provides are not versioned15:16
dokoI thought they are now ...15:16
seb128I don't know about that15:17
dokoahh, just gnome-colors, fixing15:17
seb128but versioned provides would be interesting still :-)15:18
dokothey are in dpkg at least15:19
davmor2seb128: query on 16.04 should the new gnome software have an icon in the launcher by default like software center did or not?16:28
seb128davmor2, cf backlog from like an hour ago16:28
seb128davmor2, summary, it should once Trevinho & andyrock land their work which is pending review16:29
davmor2seb128: ah awesome thanks16:29
seb128Trevinho, andyrock, did you see my ping earlier? (sorry my laptop froze a few times)16:29
Trevinhoseb128: oh, sorry... I had a crash and forgot to reopen IRC:..16:52
Trevinhoseb128: so, format-option yeah... I'd love to get that still16:52
Trevinhoseb128: as for the sc icon, I think andyrock can change the default settings as well16:53
seb128Trevinho, what about landing those? ;-)16:56
Trevinhoseb128: yeah, sure... I was about to review them, but as for the format-option I was wating for a fix...16:57
seb128Trevinho, that's more a nice to have, the gnome-software one is the one we need16:58
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qenghocking: I'm testing that zfs-initramfs solution to grub mal-search. I don't get any symlinks in /dev/ yet. I'm starting to debug udev. It's in X's v0.6.5.4-0ubuntu2, yesno?17:50
ckingqengho, there should be a 0uuntu3 fairly soon, but 0ubuntu2 will do for now for debugging, minor difference17:51
qenghocking: found my problem. Not your problem.18:00
ckingqengho, ok, cool18:13
Laneynight night18:14
seb128night Laney18:17
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seb128today was a quiet day on this channel18:17
* seb128 spent the afternoon fighting with dlneyna &gnome stack18:18
seb128still not working, frustrating18:18
qenghocking: using the partition type id isn't very good. I suggested a rule that uses the data itself, instead of the container's label.18:36
qenghocking: tested here. Works.18:37
ckingqengho, remind me which bug this is, I see so many per week I can't recall the context18:38
ubot5Launchpad bug 1530953 in zfs-initramfs (Ubuntu) "Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=" [Medium,Fix released]18:38
* cking stares at the udev rule18:42
ckingqengho, can you add a debdiff to the bug report, I'll build it and I'd like to get some some on this one to shake out any bugs on this as I don't want to keep doing more upload iterations on this if at all possible18:48
ckings/some some/some testing/18:48
qenghocking: woot. That works even for MBR partitioning. Verified. Now to try whole-disk.18:50
Trevinhoseb128: maybe we should also add a migration script for those who had the u-s-c desktop file in setttings...19:29
seb128Trevinho, yeah, that's a good idea, but let's do that after beta1, we don't want to delay that landing longer19:29
sethjhey Trevinho, so I noticed a while back you fixed that Unity bug! In the end I did not have the time to dig deep enough to fix the underlying issue.. What did you end up doing?20:07
Trevinhosethj: hey20:19
Trevinhosethj: which unity bug?20:19
sethjTrevinho, oops. the empty trash one.20:19
Trevinhorobert_ancell: hey, could you fix that gee unity branch so I can prepare a landing?20:20
robert_ancellTrevinho, I just fixed it a few minutes ago20:20
robert_ancellTrevinho, oh, I missed a bit20:20
Trevinhorobert_ancell: oh, sorry I didn't check before asking then :)20:21
robert_ancellTrevinho, np20:21
Trevinhorobert_ancell: oh, sorry I didn't check before asking then :)20:22
attenterobert_ancell: hey, i just realized i forgot to save the u1 credentials in the gnome-software u1 dialog if the user checks "remember me"...20:24
robert_ancellattente, oops...20:24
attenteis there a place we could store that?20:24
robert_ancellattente, libsecret?20:25
attenteah, sounds good20:26
Trevinhorobert_ancell: could you also approve this https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/migrate-to-sc-favorite/+merge/286839 ?20:37
robert_ancellTrevinho, I'll review, but I'm not in the Unity team afaik20:39
Trevinhorobert_ancell: well, a review is enough then :)20:39
robert_ancellTrevinho, uh, "favorites = [i.replace('ubuntu-software-center', 'org.gnome.Software') if 'ubuntu-software-center.desktop' in i else i for i in favorites]"20:40
* robert_ancell struggles to decipher...20:40
TrevinhoI wanted to be oneliner :-D20:40
qenghoOkay, so for i in favorites, then a ternary. Phew.20:42
Trevinhorobert_ancell: I've added more lines...20:50
Trevinhoralsina: thanks20:53

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