[06:04] <hikiko> hi
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[07:31] <Sweet5hark> good morning, desktoppers!
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[08:29] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:32] <hikiko> gppd morning seb128 :)
[08:32] <hikiko> good morning* :p
[08:33] <seb128> hey hikiko, how are you?
[08:33] <seb128> had a good w.e?
[08:34] <hikiko> it was fine, how about you?
[08:36] <hikiko> Trevinho, here? :)
[08:37] <seb128> It was good, thanks
[08:38] <seb128> Trevinho, it's a bit earlir for him no? ;-)
[08:40] <hikiko> haha
[08:40] <hikiko> true :)
[08:40] <hikiko> I was just checking!
[08:41] <hikiko> (hopes.. :D)
[08:42] <hikiko> seb128, are you able to reproduce the black dots bug in nautilus?
[08:42] <hikiko> https://imgur.com/a/nmzZU here's what I see in my case, but I have reproduced the problem in the past
[08:42] <seb128> hikiko, I don't know what bug you are talking about sorry
[08:42] <hikiko> seb128, when you start nautilus or another gtk program
[08:43] <hikiko> that has alpha
[08:43] <hikiko> around the window
[08:43] <hikiko> you see some black dots or a black frame depending on the decoration
[08:43] <hikiko> around it
[08:43] <hikiko> like alpha is not working
[08:43] <hikiko> I could reproduce that a week ago but now I can't
[08:46] <hikiko> seb128, I reproduced it with gthumb, we might just changed the nautilus settings :)
[08:46] <seb128> hikiko, nautilus in xenial has been reverted to a version that doesn't use CSD decorations
[08:46] <seb128> so maybe that's it
[08:47] <hikiko> yes that's it for sure :)
[08:47] <hikiko> thanks :)
[08:50] <seb128> yw
[08:52] <Sweet5hark> good morning seb128, hikko!
[08:52] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark! how are you? had a good w.e?
[08:52]  * Sweet5hark started off the week by filing two snapcraft bugs ;)
[08:52] <seb128> hehe
[08:54] <Sweet5hark> seb128: w.e. was okish -- help my brother to move to a new home all Saturday long. Was regenerating from back, arm and leg pain on Sunday ;)
[08:54] <seb128> some excercice is nice ;-)
[08:56] <Sweet5hark> seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/xenial/5.1.0/libreoffice_5.1.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes and http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/xenial/5.1.0/libreoffice-l10n_5.1.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes have enough fixes for an new upload IMHO. Two changes in there might be debatable as needing a FFE (or needing to be removed).
[08:58] <seb128> Sweet5hark, the "add google drive bits" one?
[08:58] <seb128> we were on the rc for that serie, let's not argue about the update to stable ;-)
[08:58] <seb128> I'm going to sponsor that
[08:59] <Sweet5hark> Oh, hang on, that is still missing the bug id -- I thought I uploaded with that fixed in the changelog.
[09:02] <seb128> Sweet5hark, so you want to update with a changelog bug reference? let me know when you get the new version ready
[09:02] <Sweet5hark> seb128: aye
[09:04] <Laney> hello
[09:04] <Laney> what's up!
[09:05] <seb128> hey Laney! happy monday
[09:05] <seb128> had a good w.e?
[09:10] <Laney> hey seb128!
[09:10] <Laney> very good thanks - rosie's parents were up and we went to a beer festival on saturday
[09:10] <Laney> some walking yesterday
[09:10] <Laney> then friends for dinner in the evening
[09:10] <Laney> what about you?
[09:12] <seb128> w.e was good, though I've a cold again, that's starting being annoying
[09:12] <seb128> we went to see movies on saturday&sunday evening, that was nice
[09:12] <seb128> and had friends for lunch in sunday
[09:12] <Laney> good films?
[09:12] <seb128> yeah
[09:13] <seb128> "spotlight" & "hail, caesar!"
[09:13] <seb128> I recommend them
[09:14] <seb128> well, the second one is from the Coen brothers, if you don't like their previous movies/style maybe not
[09:14] <seb128> but we enjoyed it :-)
[09:17] <Laney> oh yeah, I've only seen a couple of their films but they were good
[09:17] <Laney> think fargo was by them
[09:17] <ogra_> yep
[09:17] <seb128> indeed
[09:17] <ogra_> o brother where are thou' as well iirc
[09:17]  * Laney is bad at having seen films
[09:19]  * ogra_ shakes his head about linuxmint ... oh my ... 
[09:20] <seb128> what did they do?
[09:21] <ogra_> they ran their whole website on an outdated wordpress install it seems ... got hacked and someone changed the download link to his own server witrh modified iso (with IRCbot preinstalled)
[09:21] <seb128> urg
[09:21] <ogra_> since theyx only offer an unsigned md5sum file next tro the isos people only noticed it after a day
[09:21] <ogra_> seems additzionally these guys downloaded their whole password db and the forum content too
[09:23] <seb128> their approach to security seems a bit naive
[09:23] <ogra_> haha, you're so diplomatic :)
[09:24] <pitti> hey ogra_, seb128, Laney! happy spring day!
[09:24] <ogra_> oooh !
[09:24]  * seb128 looks outside
[09:24] <seb128> grey&rainy
[09:24] <seb128> lie!
[09:24] <ogra_> *that* is why the birds are singing so loud !
[09:24] <seb128> hey pitti ;-)
[09:25] <pitti> ogra_: yeah, it was quite a nuisance this morning indeed :)
[09:55] <seb128> happyaron, could you have a look to bug #1547826? do we build ibus without indicator support?  since when?
[09:55] <ubot5> bug 1547826 in ibus (Ubuntu) "Enable libappindicator support" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547826
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[10:06] <seb128> did we stop autosyncs yet?
[10:07] <seb128> oh, gst 1.7 is in experimental
[10:07] <seb128> Laney, I guess those are on your list?
[10:12] <pitti> seb128: we are in FF, so I hope we did
[10:13] <seb128> right
[10:13]  * pitti asks in #u-devel
[10:26] <seb128> pitti, the new upower seems to have an issue, bug #1547793 and ubiquity tops daily e.u.c on xenial with upower errors
[10:26] <ubot5> bug 1547793 in upower (Ubuntu) "upowerd crashed with SIGSEGV in g_variant_is_trusted()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547793
[10:26] <seb128> there was a new version of thursday, maybe a regression?
[10:27] <seb128> oh, not a trivial update, port to gdbus
[10:36] <Sweet5hark> seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/xenial/5.1.0/libreoffice-l10n_5.1.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/xenial/5.1.0/libreoffice_5.1.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes -- now with the right bug id for the google stuff ...
[10:36] <seb128> Sweet5hark, great
[10:37] <pitti> seb128: adding to TODO list, thanks
[10:37] <seb128> pitti, yw, sorry I more pinging to know if you knew about some issue with the update than to dump work on you, I'm going to try to have a look after lunch
[10:38] <seb128> but e.u.c doesn't have reports for upower itself and the ubiquity out just fail to use the dbus service but have no useful info/journal/log
[11:01] <Trevinho> seb128: hey
[11:01] <Trevinho> seb128: do you want me to open a lp bug to get https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk%2B/commit/?id=1dda932 backported? tjaalton would need that to migrate to new xserver...
[11:05] <Trevinho> whatever... it's at https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/1548272
[11:05] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1548272 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Gdk screen has invalid output plug name when using randr 1.5" [High,In progress]
[11:11] <desrt> good morning!
[11:41] <tjaalton> Trevinho, seb128: the followup patch is probably desired as well
[11:41] <Trevinho> tjaalton: it has to
[11:42] <tjaalton> leak fixes and cleanups
[11:43] <andyrock> morning
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[12:28] <doko> Sweet5hark, ping about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1487148
[12:28] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1487148 in fonts-stix (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fonts-stix -- to replace xfonts-mathml" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[12:29] <seb128> Trevinho, hey, I already uploaded that fix this morning
[12:29] <seb128> hey tjaalton andyrock
[12:33] <Trevinho> seb128: oh, cool.. You're faster than me checking the changelog :-D
[12:33] <seb128> lol
[12:34] <seb128> we are just on slightly shifted work timezones :p
[12:35] <Trevinho> seb128: however we'd also need https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/1548272/comments/1 :/
[12:35] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1547510 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1548272 tracker for xorg-server 1.18 migration" [High,Triaged]
[12:35] <Trevinho> seb128: ahaha, yeah, sort of :-D
[12:35] <Trevinho> There are also north/south timezones nowadays
[12:35] <seb128> Trevinho, how big is the leak? also can you ask mclasen to commit those to 3-18?
[12:36] <Trevinho> seb128: ok
[12:36] <seb128> thanks
[12:37] <Trevinho> seb128: well, not that big... But you know.... Leaks aren't nice.
[12:37] <Trevinho> it's one time per instance, but still..
[12:37] <seb128> Trevinho, right, I'm not saying we are going to not fix it, just wondering if we should block the update or if we can do a follow up in some hours
[12:38] <seb128> looks like we can let it there for a few hours it's not the end of the world
[12:38] <Trevinho> seb128: oh, no... Nothing to be worried to block the update
[12:38] <Trevinho> yeah, indeed
[12:40] <tjaalton> the blocker is now elsewhere
[12:42] <Laney> seb128: yes, of course, I already talked to slomo about it, done now :-)
[12:42]  * Laney wasn't looking at irc
[12:42] <seb128> Laney, I saw your gstreamer sync earlier and took that as a reply :p
[12:43] <Laney> had to deal with the unforwarded touch patches again
[12:43] <Laney> "good" "times"
[12:46] <seb128> :-/
[12:48] <Sweet5hark> doko: Hm? ubuntu desktop bugs is subscribed to fonts-stix? what is missing? the metadiscussion on the bug about how and what to subscribe is a bit openended and vague to me ...
[12:48] <doko> Sweet5hark, ohh, I see. nobody updated the issue
[12:52] <Sweet5hark> doko: np, thanks for watching out.
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[13:06] <seb128> hum, glib migration seems blocked by some strongswan issue :-/
[13:06] <seb128> which is blocking the gtk update
[13:09] <hikiko> is willcooke off today?
[13:10] <Sweet5hark> hikiko: MWC IIRC
[13:15] <Sweet5hark> so what the branch to pull from to suggest a change to ubuntu-seeds/xenial? all I find is outdated references and a naive lp:ubuntu/xenial/ubuntu-meta has no luck finding a branch ...
[13:18] <Laney> not sure about strongswan
[13:18] <Laney> it works here
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[13:23] <seb128> Laney, should we just retry?
[13:24] <seb128> Sweet5hark, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement#Changing_the_Seeds
[13:26] <Sweet5hark> seb128: thx
[13:33] <Sweet5hark> woa, snappy crashes right away when run on xenial (in a VM)
[13:35] <Sweet5hark> urgh, thats not the snappy im looking for.
[13:35] <ogra_> Sweet5hark, using mvo's all-snaps image ?
[13:35] <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/all-snaps/
[13:36] <ogra_> (soon to be the default)
[13:36] <Laney> seb128: I did already
[13:36] <ogra_> Sweet5hark, thats how i run it "kvm -m 512 -redir :8022::22 ./amd64-all-snap.img"
[13:37] <Laney> but my local thing didn't get glib from proposed
[13:37] <Sweet5hark> ogra_: where do I get a good 16.04 ubuntu core image for vagrant?
[13:37] <Laney> hmmmmmm
[13:37] <ogra_> Sweet5hark, no idea, never used vagrant ... i think you can convert the amd64 one somehow
[13:38] <Sweet5hark> ogra_: urgh
[13:38] <ogra_> in any case you should use the all--snaps image ... all others will be dropped before release
[13:53] <Sweet5hark> ogra_: hmm, so how do I deploy a snap to classic .deb-based Desktop? Or isnt that production-ready yet?
[13:54] <Laney> bah
[13:54]  * Laney runs this strongswan test on real scalingstack
[13:54] <Laney> also without new glib to check it is this
[13:59] <ogra_> Sweet5hark, ask the desktop guys ... nothing i worked on ... i can tell you how to enable the classic dimension on the snappy image to use debs though :)
[14:00] <ogra_> (sudo snappy enable-classic; snappy shell classic; sudo apt-get install snapcraft ... )
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[14:02] <Laney> failed with the old glib too
[14:02] <Laney> wwwwwwwhat is this
[14:02] <seb128> :-/
[14:12] <Laney> oh COME ON!
[14:12] <abeato_> mdeslaur, hey, I have a patch for ntp package to fix lp #1526264 (see comment #2), mind taking a look?
[14:12] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1526264 in Canonical System Image "ntpdate fails with invalid argument when device is set to a date in the future (delta > 2^16)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1526264
[14:14] <mdeslaur> abeato_: I don't know anything about ntp, perhaps someone in foundations can take a look?
[14:14] <abeato_> mdeslaur, please suggest somebody :)
[14:16] <mdeslaur> abeato_: ask slangasek in #ubuntu-devel to assign someone to look at it
[14:16] <abeato_> mdeslaur, I'll do, thanks
[14:16] <seb128> you can also subscribe ubuntu-sponsors
[14:16] <seb128> that never hurts
[14:17] <abeato_> ack
[14:37] <seb128> is changing a library soname (poppler) considered as a feature/needs an exception by the simple fact that the soname changes and transitions are work?
[14:38] <seb128> there are no real changes in poppler itself than can qualify as new features, but they don't give stability for their private lib and tend to bump sonames
[14:41] <xnox> i think that's fine, as long as the diff is obvious. And it's not like 100k lines lets add new stuff.
[14:59] <seb128> Trevinho, andyrock, do you have any idea when https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/unity/gs-integration/+merge/286653 should be ready to land? the current xenial iso don't have s-c anymore so unity is buggy/the launcher has no icon for the new software store, would be nice to fix that before beta1 this week
[15:01] <seb128> Trevinho, andyrock, also https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/unity/format-option/+merge/283741 ... we are in ff now, is that still wanted for this cycle?
[15:02] <seb128> and https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/unity/unity-sn/+merge/283322
[15:15] <doko> seb128, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-icon-theme/3.12.0-1ubuntu3  stuck in -proposed. why not provide the -full version?
[15:15] <doko> trying: gnome-icon-theme
[15:15] <doko> skipped: gnome-icon-theme (50 <- 1)
[15:15] <doko>     got: 158+0: a-50:a-18:a-17:i-16:p-19:p-19:s-19
[15:15] <doko>     * amd64: gnome-brave-icon-theme, gnome-colors, gnome-colors-common, gnome-dust-icon-theme, gnome-human-icon-theme, gnome-illustrious-icon-theme, gnome-noble-icon-theme, gnome-wine-icon-theme, gnome-wise-icon-theme, pyhoca-gui, shiki-brave-theme, shiki-colors, shiki-dust-theme, shiki-human-theme, shiki-illustrious-theme, shiki-noble-theme, shiki-wine-theme, shiki-wise-theme
[15:15] <seb128> doko, we do provide it
[15:15] <doko> hmm, but why is it stuck?
[15:16] <seb128> likely something having a versioned depends
[15:16] <seb128> provides are not versioned
[15:16] <doko> I thought they are now ...
[15:17] <seb128> I don't know about that
[15:17] <doko> ahh, just gnome-colors, fixing
[15:18] <seb128> thanks
[15:18] <seb128> but versioned provides would be interesting still :-)
[15:19] <doko> they are in dpkg at least
[16:28] <davmor2> seb128: query on 16.04 should the new gnome software have an icon in the launcher by default like software center did or not?
[16:28] <seb128> davmor2, cf backlog from like an hour ago
[16:29] <seb128> davmor2, summary, it should once Trevinho & andyrock land their work which is pending review
[16:29] <davmor2> seb128: ah awesome thanks
[16:29] <seb128> Trevinho, andyrock, did you see my ping earlier? (sorry my laptop froze a few times)
[16:52] <Trevinho> seb128: oh, sorry... I had a crash and forgot to reopen IRC:..
[16:52] <Trevinho> seb128: so, format-option yeah... I'd love to get that still
[16:53] <Trevinho> seb128: as for the sc icon, I think andyrock can change the default settings as well
[16:56] <seb128> Trevinho, what about landing those? ;-)
[16:57] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah, sure... I was about to review them, but as for the format-option I was wating for a fix...
[16:58] <seb128> Trevinho, that's more a nice to have, the gnome-software one is the one we need
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[16:58] <Trevinho> ok
[17:50] <qengho> cking: I'm testing that zfs-initramfs solution to grub mal-search. I don't get any symlinks in /dev/ yet. I'm starting to debug udev. It's in X's v0.6.5.4-0ubuntu2, yesno?
[17:51] <cking> qengho, there should be a 0uuntu3 fairly soon, but 0ubuntu2 will do for now for debugging, minor difference
[17:51] <qengho> Hrm.
[18:00] <qengho> cking: found my problem. Not your problem.
[18:13] <cking> qengho, ok, cool
[18:14] <Laney> night night
[18:17] <seb128> night Laney
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[18:17] <seb128> today was a quiet day on this channel
[18:18]  * seb128 spent the afternoon fighting with dlneyna &gnome stack
[18:18] <seb128> still not working, frustrating
[18:36] <qengho> cking: using the partition type id isn't very good. I suggested a rule that uses the data itself, instead of the container's label.
[18:37] <qengho> cking: tested here. Works.
[18:38] <cking> qengho, remind me which bug this is, I see so many per week I can't recall the context
[18:38] <qengho> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-initramfs/+bug/1530953
[18:38] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1530953 in zfs-initramfs (Ubuntu) "Support GRUB's native root=ZFS=" [Medium,Fix released]
[18:42]  * cking stares at the udev rule
[18:48] <cking> qengho, can you add a debdiff to the bug report, I'll build it and I'd like to get some some on this one to shake out any bugs on this as I don't want to keep doing more upload iterations on this if at all possible
[18:48] <cking> s/some some/some testing/
[18:50] <qengho> cking: woot. That works even for MBR partitioning. Verified. Now to try whole-disk.
[19:29] <Trevinho> seb128: maybe we should also add a migration script for those who had the u-s-c desktop file in setttings...
[19:29] <seb128> Trevinho, yeah, that's a good idea, but let's do that after beta1, we don't want to delay that landing longer
[20:07] <sethj> hey Trevinho, so I noticed a while back you fixed that Unity bug! In the end I did not have the time to dig deep enough to fix the underlying issue.. What did you end up doing?
[20:19] <Trevinho> sethj: hey
[20:19] <Trevinho> sethj: which unity bug?
[20:19] <sethj> Trevinho, oops. the empty trash one.
[20:20] <Trevinho> robert_ancell: hey, could you fix that gee unity branch so I can prepare a landing?
[20:20] <robert_ancell> Trevinho, I just fixed it a few minutes ago
[20:20] <robert_ancell> Trevinho, oh, I missed a bit
[20:21] <Trevinho> robert_ancell: oh, sorry I didn't check before asking then :)
[20:21] <Trevinho> thanks
[20:21] <robert_ancell> Trevinho, np
[20:22] <Trevinho> robert_ancell: oh, sorry I didn't check before asking then :)
[20:22] <Trevinho> thanks
[20:24] <attente> robert_ancell: hey, i just realized i forgot to save the u1 credentials in the gnome-software u1 dialog if the user checks "remember me"...
[20:24] <robert_ancell> attente, oops...
[20:24] <attente> is there a place we could store that?
[20:25] <robert_ancell> attente, libsecret?
[20:26] <attente> ah, sounds good
[20:37] <Trevinho> robert_ancell: could you also approve this https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/migrate-to-sc-favorite/+merge/286839 ?
[20:39] <robert_ancell> Trevinho, I'll review, but I'm not in the Unity team afaik
[20:39] <Trevinho> robert_ancell: well, a review is enough then :)
[20:40] <robert_ancell> Trevinho, uh, "favorites = [i.replace('ubuntu-software-center', 'org.gnome.Software') if 'ubuntu-software-center.desktop' in i else i for i in favorites]"
[20:40]  * robert_ancell struggles to decipher...
[20:40] <Trevinho> I wanted to be oneliner :-D
[20:42] <qengho> Okay, so for i in favorites, then a ternary. Phew.
[20:50] <Trevinho> robert_ancell: I've added more lines...
[20:53] <Trevinho> ralsina: thanks