[00:15] <k1l> !final
[00:15] <k1l> maybe better use the "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" there instead of apt-get to not confuse dist-upgrade with a distribution upgrade to a new ubuntu release?
[00:16] <Unit193> Meh.
[00:16] <dax> do apt and apt-get use the same resolver?
[00:16] <dax> not 100% relevant, but i'm curious
[00:16] <k1l> its the new apt-get
[00:17] <dax> that doesn't answer my question :P
[00:17] <k1l> damn, you got me ;p
[00:17] <dax> anyway. +1 on changing it from me
[00:18] <k1l> i dont know if it got a new resolver. iirc its using the same libs underneath but tries to group things from apt-get, apt-cache etc into one command. and it got a fancy progressbar :)
[00:18] <dax> (aptitude uses APT too obviously, but i heard they have different resolvers? idk. apt confuses me)
[00:19] <dax> s/apt/APT/
[00:19] <dax> !search apt-get
[00:20] <dax> wow, lot of crap in there
[00:20] <dax> !forget brokenmsn
[00:21] <valorie> apt rulez over apt-get
[00:21] <valorie> full-upgrade > dist-upgrade
[00:21] <dax> i thought apt-get had full-upgrade, but then i read the man page and realized i was thinking about aptitude :3
[00:22] <k1l> i like it because you dont have to tell people for 5 minutes that dist-upgrade will not update to 16.04
[00:22] <dax> yeah
[00:22] <dax> makes a lot more sense too. safe-upgrade vs. full-upgrade
[00:22] <valorie> it's always been a bad/confusing term
[00:22] <dax> pretty clear that one does something less "safe", i.e. removing packages
[00:22] <dax> oh, apt doesn't have safe-upgrade, it just does upgrade. oh well still
[00:23] <valorie> you can do upgrade && full-upgrade if you are super cautious
[00:23] <valorie> but I just always do full-upgrade with very good results so far
[00:24] <Unit193> dax: `apt` is a binary, `apt-get` is also a binary from the same package.  There's benefits to each.
[00:24] <dax> Unit193: i'm aware
[00:24] <Unit193> OK, juuuust making sure, didn't sound like you knew. :3
[00:24] <dax> how so?
[00:25] <dax> meanwhile, apt is not APT, it just uses it. so that's not confusing at all \o/
[00:26] <k1l> apt is now a cli frontend to apt :)
[00:28] <valorie> lol
[00:28] <valorie> I still use apt-get when apt doesn't have the function I need
[00:28] <dax> i just use aptitude for everything :|
[00:29] <Unit193> valorie: Yes apt is good only for basic stuff, and apt list | grep installed,loc
[00:29] <valorie> I quit using aptitude a looooong time ago
[00:29] <valorie> confusing
[00:30]  * dax shrugs
[00:30] <k1l> i think the wanted to make a everyday apt with basic common usage.
[00:30] <dax> better than dselect was
[01:24] <blahdeblah> ubuntuforums.org will be going down for a short time soon
[03:56] <Flannel> hi blahdeblah.  Is there anything we can help you with operator related?
[03:56] <blahdeblah> Flannel: no, but thanks anyway; just waiting for the last server to come back :-)
[03:58] <Flannel> blahdeblah: alright.
[04:01] <blahdeblah> Flannel: We're almost there; just waiting for the hosts to run through checks
[04:11] <blahdeblah> Flannel: should be good now
[04:12] <blahdeblah> Please let us know in #canonical-sysadmin if there are any issues
[04:12] <Flannel> blahdeblah: Will do, thanks for the notification.
[04:12] <Flannel> or... too late.
[04:55] <master> Remove the ban on Phanes.  Round 2.
[04:58] <dax> @login
[04:58] <dax> oh for god's sake ubottu, we already went over this
[05:01] <Flannel> dax: papers please?
[05:10] <dax> anyways. reported master to staff as a cloaked sockpuppet of phanes, not that that usually helps much but *shrug*
[05:11] <Unit193> dax: Try again.
[05:11] <dax> oh, it was that one this time? usually she hates me because of my cloak
[05:11] <dax> @login
[05:11] <dax> erm, nick
[05:11] <dax> heh
[05:11] <dax> alrighty then
[05:11] <dax> ty
[05:12] <Unit193> Sure.
 im concerned about malware with ubuntu
[10:22] <bazhang> our friend is back
[10:35] <Ben64> hey bazhang, apparently zmanz is the spammer thats been targeting #ubuntu lately, you might want to check out #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:36] <bazhang> thanks Ben64
[13:15] <k1l_> i already reported master beeing another cloaked account of phanes to tomas in pm since i dont get voiced in #freenode.
[19:33] <nixoeen> Hey, I'm one of OPs of #ubuntu-ir, but as I didn't use IRC for a long time, my username was removed. Now I'm back again and one of FreeNode staffs told me to mention it here :) Anyone who can help me with this issue?
[19:47] <nixoeen> wxl, Ok, I will try to reach them :)
[19:47] <hggdh> nixoeen: please do. We will be here to help after you get them to confirm
[19:47] <wxl> nixoeen: thank you for understanding. please let me know if i can be of any further help. don't forget the loco-council is available, if needed, as well. (i'm a member)
[20:50] <Pici> oh man
[21:48] <Pici> in the files
[21:48] <k1l_> !rm
[21:48] <k1l_> the video is gone.
[21:49] <Pici> You tube is sorry.
[21:50] <k1l_> imho we can drop the " and for a cautionary story about 'rm' see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL_g0tyaIeE" end of that factoid?
[21:51] <Pici> go for uit
[21:51] <Pici> ugh, I cannot type today,.
[21:52] <k1l_> !rm is <reply> The Unix 'rm' command removes files and directories from the filesystem. It is an extremly powerful tool, and you should not run 'rm' commands unless you fully understand them. Do not run arbitrary 'rm' commands you see online. For a beginning guide on using terminal commands, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[21:54] <k1l_> !help
[21:54] <k1l_> !no rm is <reply> The Unix 'rm' command removes files and directories from the filesystem. It is an extremly powerful tool, and you should not run 'rm' commands unless you fully understand them. Do not run arbitrary 'rm' commands you see online. For a beginning guide on using terminal commands, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[21:54] <k1l_> !rm
[21:58] <k1l_> Pici: you got 10 mins for a query?
[21:58] <Pici> k1l_: actually heading home in a minute... but if you write something now I'll see it when I get home.
[21:59] <k1l_> kk
[23:43] <nixoeen> hggdh, wxl, I already informed the ubuntu-ir-council to confirm about my position (no idea how long it takes), but in case it helps to speed up the process, I just noticed that the Topic of #ubuntu-ir is set by me last year and wasn't change since then. It's something that you can check by just going to the channel.
[23:45] <nixoeen> s/last year/two years ago
[23:56] <hggdh> nixoeen: this is good, and shows you had rights to edit the topic (at least). But we would still like to have a confirmation from the Iranian LoCo council.
[23:56] <Unit193> Technically, shows someone that used to own his nick/account did.