[04:10] <lotuspsychje> mariogrip: nice one! http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/02/ubuntu-phone-sony-xperia-oneplus-one
 jabawok: is that on ubuntu touch?
[05:50] <jabawok> yep
[05:50] <jabawok> on an E5
[05:52] <jabawok> Mikaela: yep i realise what it means. Is there any cause for concern about flash longevity with swappiness=100 ?
[05:52] <Mikaela> I have no experience with Ubuntu Touch and cannot answer that.
[08:29] <tsdgeos> mardy: do you have anyone that will review https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/loading-1544063/+merge/285842 or should i just top approve it myself?
[08:31] <mardy> tsdgeos: dbarth_ generally approves my MPs, but you can certainly do that too :-)
[11:15] <peat-psuwit> abeato_: I've made a PR for ofono. Could you please have a look? https://github.com/rilmodem/ofono/pull/228
[11:15] <abeato_> peat-psuwit, sure, thanks
[11:27] <vishnu> hi
[11:28] <Guest94989> anybody here??
[11:29] <k1l_> Guest94989: some are :)
[11:32] <Guest94989> is der development for htc desire 816
[11:42] <jgdx> charles, hey, ken approved https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1533835/+merge/285603
[11:47] <jgdx> Mirv, hey, what's the status on the qsysteminfo landing?
[11:56] <Mirv> jgdx: latest news is waiting for mzanetti to test the patch set version 20 that is in silo 009. if I get a go ahead, I would do a final rebuild and put towards QA.
[11:56] <jgdx> Mirv, ack
[11:57] <mzanetti> Mirv, ah, I did test it
[11:58] <mzanetti> Mirv,  I have a branch here that switches unity8 from its internal implementation to the one in the silo. seems working.
[11:58] <mzanetti> Mirv, I'd say you can go ahead
[12:02] <mzanetti> Mirv, I'd like to leave a comment... but for some reason the website didn't accept my stored password any more and clicking the password restore link doesn't get me an email
[12:07] <jgdx> mzanetti, Mirv: I also have a branch that replaces the internal implementation to the one in the silo in System Settings. Works well!
[12:08] <mzanetti> jgdx, awesome!
[12:08] <mzanetti> so yeah. IMO we could go ahead
[12:09] <mzanetti> Mirv, ^
[12:14] <Mirv> mzanetti: ok!
[12:19] <Helio> Hi!
[12:19] <Helio> I would desire to port Ubuntu Touch to my SM-T320 (mondrianwifi).
[12:20] <matv1> the community port of the sony experia Z1. Does anyone where I need to go for an image?
[12:20] <Helio> Currently, there is a CM port to it.
[12:21] <Helio> I cloned `phablet` repo, but I don't know how to use the CM port ad base for Ubuntu.
[12:27] <matv1> i guess they´re all in Barcelona dancing with robots :(
[12:28] <k1l_> Helio: did you look into the poritng guide? its mentioned in the topic in here
[12:28] <davmor2> matv1: at a guess uports
[12:29] <matv1> davmor2 nope its not on there, which surprised me
[12:29] <Helio> k1l_: If you mean [this](https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/), I can't find yet any info of using a current CM port as UT base.
[12:30] <matv1> davmor2 i assume you meant https://ubports.com/
[14:24] <rbasak> Is there a known bug on the phone failing to honour the lock screen timeout at all? It happens to me after a few days - the screen no longer blanks by itself despite the setting, so I get an effective battery drain after a notification (eg. SMS).
[14:24] <rbasak> A reboot fixes it, but I'd like to debug further if someone can tell me what to check, as my phone is in this state right now.
[14:37] <mhall119> the WiFi Display page of System Settings isn't working on mako, it can't find the Displays QML component, am I missing something?
[14:58] <mterry> tedg, what's the story with the app-object branch?
[14:59] <tedg> mterry: tvoss did a first review and I made those changes, he's supposed to come back to  it.
[14:59] <mterry> tedg, cool
[14:59] <tedg> mterry: That probably broke your branch some, especially the changing of case of the namespaces.
[15:00] <mterry> tedg, and the object-signals are still experimental?
[15:00] <mterry> tedg, yeah I re-based recently
[15:00] <tedg> mterry: Yes
[15:00] <mterry> tedg, ok cool  :)
[16:25] <mcphail> Is there an idiot's way to set up a PPTP VPN connection on the phone. (Please tell me in words of 1 syllable as i don't really understand VPNs ;) )
[16:34] <jgdx> mcphail, not sure pptp is supported currently.
[16:35] <jgdx> pete-woods, did the connectivity api for vpn change recently? I'm seeing this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15171556/
[16:36] <pete-woods> jgdx: um, no
[16:36] <pete-woods> that's a scary sounding error
[16:36] <mcphail> jgdx: ok - thanks!
[16:40] <jgdx> pete-woods, I'm using d-feet to call the AddVpnConnection using 0. Could you try?
[16:40] <jgdx> maybe there's something locally screwed up
[16:46] <jgdx> pete-woods, running 0.7.1+16.04.20160217-0ubuntu1
[16:58] <dobey> jgdx: that error looks like you're trying to pass a string as a bool
[16:58] <dobey> jgdx: did you type '0', or 0 in d-feet?
[16:59] <dobey> jgdx: and since it's expecting a bool, i think you need to type false instead of 0 perhaps
[16:59] <pete-woods> jgdx: that error is coming from the comms between the indicator and network-manager
[17:00] <pete-woods> it's pushed back to the client for convenience
[17:00] <dobey> oh, right
[17:00] <pete-woods> the error suggests we are doing something wrong with the autoconnect property in the indicator
[17:00] <pete-woods> will try reproducing
[17:01] <pete-woods> on friday I did the same thing in the VPN editor
[17:01] <pete-woods> (in preparation for the secret store landing)
[17:02] <davmor2> pete-woods: surely it should be called secret-hub ;)
[17:02] <pete-woods> davmor2: gsercret-storeqt-cpp?
[17:03] <davmor2> pete-woods: man that is uglier than secret store :D
[17:03] <pete-woods> well technically gnome-keyring is the secret store anyway
[17:03] <pete-woods> that landing just fixes the wiring between the secret agent and gnome-keyring
[17:05] <davmor2> pete-woods: oh so now you are installing secret agents on the phone, they must be really little to fit in phones though :)
[17:12] <pete-woods> davmor2: I'm sure we could put out a blog post about the "new secret agent on the Ubuntu Phone" and it would be really well misinterpreted by the headlines as some sort of FBI thing
[17:12] <davmor2> pete-woods: hahaha
[17:13] <davmor2> pete-woods: just call it secret-squirrel instead who can resist secret squirrel :D
[17:13] <pete-woods> that sneaky squirrel, we never can catch him
[17:14] <dobey> i have gotten pretty good at shooting squirrels in the face
[17:14] <pete-woods> maybe that should have been the S instead of saucy salamander
[17:15] <davmor2> pete-woods: hahaha
[17:16] <dobey> lead pellets at 425 m/s are pretty great for stopping squirrels
[17:49] <mhall119> mariogrip: I have the FP contacts from dpm, let me know when you've had a chance to update the doc with the kernel issues and I will sent an email to them and CC you
[17:50] <mariogrip> mhall119: ack
[17:58] <mhall119> mariogrip: stable channel is stuck at Fairphone boot splash, so I guess it doesn't have that 5.1 patch
[17:59] <mariogrip> mhall119: Ok, good to know. maybe I should remove stable (at least from device.ubports.com) until ota10
[18:02] <mhall119> a good idea, yeah
[18:02]  * mhall119 reflashes to rc-proposed
[18:04] <peat-psuwit> Where can I see what will land in next stable OTA? I have to update device tarball if Pulseaudio lands.
[18:29] <mhall119> mariogrip: check it out, UB Ports is on one of the banners at WMC: https://twitter.com/UbuntuFun/status/698279530990071808
[18:30] <mariogrip> mhall119: OMG! That's Amazing!! :D
[18:40] <timeax> Hello peoples ;)
[18:40] <timeax> Is there an expert in ubuntu touch portings who could help me?
[18:41] <nik90> timp, ping
[18:42] <dobey> !ask | timeax
[18:43] <timeax> When i launch the mk command i got a lot of errors for missing folders...
[18:43] <timeax> How can i solve that?
[18:45] <timeax> Ahh i got the problem...
[18:47] <timeax> When i followed the guide about ubuntu touch porting(the one listed in the topic) i downloaded all the sources for ubuntu touch in phablet directory
[18:48] <timeax> But when i downloaded the xiaomi mi2s(the phon on which i wanna port that OS) sources i downloaded in the home folder
[18:48] <timeax> So how can i solve that?
[18:50] <timeax> If i copy/paste the mi2s folders in the phablet one,i'll lost everything in phablet folder?
[18:50] <timeax> Sry for the noob question,but i'm new in portings and i'm new in linux
[18:51] <timeax> But with some help i could accomplish my mission :) tnx in advance for eventual relpy :)
[18:52] <mhall119> abeato_: ^^ can you give timeax any assistance here?
[18:53] <timeax> Yep peoples every help its very appreciated :D
[19:06] <mhall119> timeax: a lot of our usually help is at WMC this week, so if you don't get an answer today keep trying
[19:06] <timeax> Ouhh cool
[19:06] <timeax> It should be a very nice event :D
[19:08] <timeax> I heard that canonical had some news for this  wmc
[19:08] <timeax> But i'm not following the event
[19:08] <timeax> Them presented something interesting?
[19:33] <dobey> mwc
[19:47] <travnewmatic> can anyone comment on the Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Edition?
[19:47] <travnewmatic> i've got the ubuntu phone itch and i'd like some feedback
[19:49] <travnewmatic> guess not, bq store doesnt sell to the US :(
[19:55] <taiebot> Hi all well done for the MWC had a look at app start up on Meizu Pro 5 does not look that much better than my nexus 4 :-( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa4mpKiSPhY
[20:17] <timeax> Thank you for the news guys ;)
[20:22] <travnewmatic> well i live in the usa how the heck do i i get my hands on one :|
[20:24] <old_benz> I’m very interested in the Z1 port, and looking for any/all information about it
[20:25] <old_benz> would like to try porting to the Z5, but so far not getting too far…
[20:34] <timeax> Travnewmatic there are a lot of online shops who ships worldwide,just use the most famous search engine for finding them ;)
[20:35] <timeax> oldbenz are u expert in porting ubuntu touch?
[20:36] <old_benz> no, not an expert at all, but somewhat familiar with android
[20:37] <timeax> Oh ok, just asked coz i need som help in porting ubuntu touch on my xiaomi mi2s
[20:38] <old_benz> what’s your question?
[20:39] <timeax> Im in trouble coz i downloaded ubuntu sources to phablet folder
[20:39] <timeax> And  mi2s sources in home folder
[20:40] <timeax> So when i try the make command i got a a lot of error messages due to missing directories
[20:41] <timeax> Now i'm not sure that if i try to merge the 2 folders,ill have the right result
[20:41] <timeax> I really dont want to spend another week in redownloading all the sources again
[20:42] <timeax> 2 days for ubuntu touch and other 3 for mi2s cyano sources
[20:42] <old_benz> you shouldn’t have to “merge” anything.
[20:42] <old_benz> you should move the binaries to the vendor/ directory
[20:43] <old_benz> the kernel to the kernel/
[20:43] <timeax> But there are some folders with same name
[20:43] <old_benz> ok
[20:44] <old_benz> https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Build_for_aries
[20:45] <timeax> If i copy/paste the mi2s sources in the phablet directory it'll overwrite theexisting one and make me lose the ubuntu touch sources right?
[20:46] <old_benz> depends, which directories conflict?
[20:46] <timeax> I still havent tryied coz i got fear to broke something
[20:48] <timeax> what u think if i take a copy of phablet directory as a backup, i call it phablet2
[20:49] <timeax> And try to copy mi2s sources in phablet?
[20:49] <timeax> If i break original directory i'll have the backupped one
[20:54] <old_benz> lol, you can back it up, sure
[20:54] <old_benz> if I get some time I’ll try a build for you
[20:54] <timeax> No dont worry,i'd like to do by my own for learning :D
[20:55] <old_benz> that’s very good
[20:56] <old_benz> but I will try a quick build anyway ;)
[20:57] <timeax> I got another dubth...when i should port apparmor? after the build make?
[20:57] <timeax> Ahahha ok :)
[20:57] <old_benz> probably after you have a working system image running…  I haven’t ported ubuntu touch
[20:58] <old_benz> my familiarity with ubuntu touch is fixing a non-booting Nexus 7 a couple of months ago: https://github.com/ddagunts/UTCWM_N7_patch
[20:58] <timeax> Ok tnx,now i'm backing up the phablet directory
[20:59] <timeax> After it finishes i try to copy mi2s folders in the original one
[20:59] <timeax> 44gb backup 😟
[21:02] <old_benz> do you have the vendor binaries?
[21:03] <timeax> I downloaded from the link you posted early
[21:04] <timeax> Not xiaomi sources,but cyano
[21:05] <timeax> I need the originals too? Or cyano are enough?
[21:11] <old_benz> you need the device config to go into device/xiaomi/aries
[21:11] <old_benz> you need the kernel source to go into kernel/
[21:12] <old_benz> and you need proprietary binaries to go into vendor/
[21:12] <old_benz> the device config and kernel source are part of cyanogenmod, however, the vendor/ binaries are not.  I will try to pull them out a cyanogenmod build
[21:15] <timeax> From the sources i downloded there are the folders vendor/xiaomi/aries... Aren't this one?
[21:15] <timeax> Arires it's mi2/2s codename
[21:18] <old_benz> yeah probably
[21:18] <old_benz> maybe they are part of the cm source tree, I dunno
[21:19] <old_benz> so I was probably wrong, my apologies
[21:19] <timeax> Cool i saw that this was included so i hadnt took lot care about them
[21:21] <timeax> But if there are some bugs in this kernel...ill bort them too on top of ubuntu touch right?
[21:22] <old_benz> I’m not sure what your last statement meant?  I believe you may have to modify the kernel to get apparmor working
[21:23] <old_benz> really, 1st step is to just get a “successful” build and see how far it will boot....
[21:24] <timeax> I was meaning that if bluetooth dont work on the cyanogen android rom,using this kernel i'll have the same problem on ubuntu touch
[21:24] <timeax> Is that right?
[21:25] <old_benz> that may be true
[21:25] <timeax> I'm sry for my bad english
[21:25] <old_benz> no problem
[21:25] <old_benz> don’t worry about camera, bluetooth, modem, wifi…. etc
[21:25] <old_benz> you need the core OS first, then you can troubleshoot
[21:25] <old_benz> it is generally not a quick process...
[21:26] <timeax> There aren't any ways to test the build on the emulator on the pc first? Instead of flashing directly on the phone?
[21:27] <timeax> Yep its an hard work...i know lol
[21:27] <old_benz> not that I know, at the end of the day you gotta test on the device.
[21:29] <timeax> Ok tnx from now only 5 minutes and the backup finish
[21:29] <timeax> And ill try to du the first build :D
[21:35] <dobey> well, the emulator works already
[21:35] <dobey> porting to a specific phone is very different from the emulator
[21:36] <timeax> I installed the emulator and tested it,but how can i make it run the build i make?
[21:37] <mcphail> timeax: you need to associate it with a kit of the same architecture
[21:38] <timeax> You mean i should run it on an arm device?
[21:39] <mcphail> timeax: if your emulator is an arm emulator, you need to set up an arm kit in the sdk. However, you might get better performance from an i386 emulator + kit, for testing purposes
[21:40] <timeax> Can you teach me how to do that?
[21:40] <timeax> Or link me some guide for it?
[21:41] <mcphail> timeax: I'm IRC'ing from a phone just now, so can't fire up the emulator to see. But the app-building tutorials on the Ubuntu developer site guided me through the process
[21:42] <timeax> Ok now i go searching the app building tutorial ;) tnx for the tips :)
[21:42] <mcphail> timeax: good luck!
[21:42] <old_benz> default cm11 repos for aries breaking on audio unfortunately
[21:42] <old_benz> sorry gotta go back to work :)
[21:43] <timeax> Ok tnx fir your patience old benz :)
[21:43] <old_benz> hardware/qcom/audio/legacy/alsa_sound/alsa_default.cpp:237:32: warning: missing initializer for member 'EDID_AUDIO_INFO::nSpeakerAllocation' [-Wmissing-field-initializers]
[21:43] <old_benz> sorry about no pastebin, gotta run
[21:43] <old_benz> hardware/qcom/audio/legacy/alsa_sound/alsa_default.cpp:237:32: warning: missing initializer for member 'EDID_AUDIO_INFO::AudioBlocksArray' [-Wmissing-field-initializers]
[21:43] <old_benz> I may take a look later
[21:44] <timeax> Tnx a lot, dont worry, have a good time ;)
[21:46] <k1l_> so running around with a VR google is "the next thing"? :)
[21:47] <dobey> timeax: you can't run the kernel you build for your phone, in the emulator; the emulator is a generic i386 or armhf image
[21:47] <dobey> timeax: the emulator doesn't emulate the exact same hardware as your phone might have, so even if you could boot your image in the emulator, it wouldn't be particularly helpful. you have to test it on a device
[21:50] <timeax> Ah ok dobey,at this point ill test it directly on the phone
[22:16] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:17] <timeax> Hello
[22:17] <sebsebseb> timeax: you have Ubuntu phone :d ?
[22:18] <timeax> Nope lol but im trying to port it on mine
[22:19] <sebsebseb> timeax: what phone you got?
[22:19] <sebsebseb> timeax: the new MEizu Ubuntu phone that's beeen recnetlyl announced is a good one to get it seems
[22:19] <sebsebseb> nice tablet from BQ soon as well
[22:20] <timeax> I got a xiaomi mi2s
[22:20] <timeax> And i'm planning to get the mi5
[22:21] <timeax> I really like xiaomi product,i got this mi2s since 3 years ago and its still a great phone :D
[22:21] <timeax> So i stay with xiaomi lol
[22:22] <timeax> the porting i'm attempting to do its just for fun :D
[22:22] <sebsebseb> timeax: yeah
[22:23] <timeax> What phone you got instead?
[22:24] <sebsebseb> timeax: uhmm.  I got a old Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini, a Jolla phone,  two of the Ubuntu phones
[22:24] <sebsebseb> old NOkis around here to heh   and such if that counts as having somethung heh
[22:24] <sebsebseb> timeax: actauly I paln to have all five of the UBuntu devices :d
[22:24] <sebsebseb> so far
[22:24] <timeax> Ahahah lol look like you hate smartphones eh? Ahahah
[22:25] <sebsebseb> as in the two just announced ones as well
[22:25] <sebsebseb> one of those is a tablet actsaully
[22:25] <timeax> Yep the m10 right?
[22:25] <sebsebseb> yep
[22:26] <sebsebseb> timeax: the latest Meizu one it's a bit like, do I need that, no not really, should I buy it anyway, why not?  I quite like the previous Meizu Mx 4
[22:26] <sebsebseb> Ubuntu Edition
[22:26] <timeax> What processor it got?
[22:26] <sebsebseb> but that latest one
[22:26] <sebsebseb> seems to be the best  Ubuntu phone by far
[22:26] <sebsebseb> timeax: if you look at the stuff on http://omgubuntu.co.uk it explains really nicely about stuff like that
[22:27] <timeax> Yea now i check it :)
[22:27] <old_benz> it’s too bad the LTE support is bad on the Meizu, otherwise looks like a nice phone
[22:27] <sebsebseb> old_benz: yeah LTE is a network thing I think
[22:27] <old_benz> it supports a very limited set of 4G frequencies
[22:27] <sebsebseb> the Meizzu isn't quite full convergence either as in the desktop thing, but Canonical could support it the other way it seems so
[22:28] <old_benz> more like the module/antenna thing
[22:28] <sebsebseb> which one the Meizzu Pro 5
[22:28] <old_benz> I don’t think it has MHL either
[22:28] <sebsebseb> or the MX 4 ?
[22:28] <old_benz> pro 5
[22:28] <sebsebseb> yep exactly the pro 5 lacks MHL I have read
[22:28] <sebsebseb> so can't just connecgt to a desktop
[22:28] <sebsebseb> monitor
[22:29] <sebsebseb> but can apparantly do stuff the other way, well if Uubntu touch has support for that
[22:29] <old_benz> If the pro 5 supported more 4G and had MHL I’d get it yesterday
[22:30] <sebsebseb> old_benz: I know in certain ways it's a bit sucky
[22:30] <sebsebseb> lacking certain things
[22:30] <sebsebseb> ,but
[22:31] <sebsebseb> still better than the MX 4 I guess, which I quite like
[22:31] <timeax> The price its not bad...335 dollard
[22:32] <sebsebseb> yep and that to, compared to the same phone, but selling with Fly me OS there own thing basd on Android
[22:32] <sebsebseb> or Andorid
[22:32] <sebsebseb> it's cheaper as well
[22:32] <timeax> Exynos 7420 its the same of galaxy s6?
[22:32]  * sebsebseb was told it wasn't that good, but woud like to try out fly me os really, but doesnt' have a Nexus to put it on one self s.   and thinks surely they are going to sell phones with there updated version soon as well
[22:33] <sebsebseb> I saw earlier that could buy one of there other phones for reasoanbly cheap with it though, but that wanting to try out thing, is a bit like want to try out Tizen really, but don't want to import from Inida, maybe when they actsaully sell in UK ?
[22:33]  * sebsebseb thinks it's fun using diffeernt oses :)
[22:33] <sebsebseb> except for the boring standard ones such as Android,  Windows, and Ios :D
[22:34] <sebsebseb> old_benz: yep the pro 5 is probably going to get a few less  sales since the lack of mhl
[22:36] <timeax> Sure it dont support video out?
[22:37] <timeax> P.s. oldbenz i'm still waiting for the backup 😖😭
[22:37] <timeax> lol its taking a life...i think itstime to upgrade to an ssd lol
[22:38] <timeax> Sebseb anyway u used ubuntu touch u said?
[22:38] <sebsebseb> old_benz: so you think Meizu pro 5 is good, but maybe not quite good enough to buy really?
[22:38] <sebsebseb> timeax: yep
[22:39] <timeax> Is it comparable to android?
[22:39] <sebsebseb> timeax: BQ Aquarius 4.5 first and later the Meizu MX  4 as well
[22:39] <sebsebseb> oh you haven't used it at all ?
[22:39] <timeax> Nope never had that pleasure
[22:39] <timeax> Thats why i'm curious to try it
[22:39] <sebsebseb> timeax:  you have used Unity on the desktop though in normal Ubuntu?
[22:40] <sebsebseb> timeax: it's Unity but a better version of Unity than what is in standard Ubuntu,
[22:40] <sebsebseb> it just seems nicer on the phone much nicer
[22:40] <timeax> I started using ubunt only for attempt to port it to my phone
[22:40] <sebsebseb> but it is Unity 8 on the phone,  standard Ubuntu is UNity 7
[22:40] <sebsebseb> timeax: it has  a nice interface,  it dods web brwosing fine,  and texting and calling
[22:41] <sebsebseb> timeax: there is a lack of apps compared to Android currently by far, but get some good native apps, get some good web apps
[22:41] <timeax> Unity its ubuntu UI right?
[22:41] <sebsebseb> yep Unity  is the default GUI
[22:41] <timeax> Ok
[22:41] <timeax> I'm a noob in linux
[22:41] <sebsebseb> timeax: I feel Canoncial has some potential at maybe getting it out there more
[22:41] <sebsebseb> timeax: FirefoX Os IS DEAD on phones
[22:41] <sebsebseb> Jolla is having problems
[22:41] <timeax> Yep i think that too
[22:42] <sebsebseb> yep it pretty much just leaves Ubuntu as the real alternative Linux mobile player for now, or so it seems
[22:42] <timeax> Jolla had economical problem hadnt shipped the products to the backers
[22:42] <sebsebseb> Plasma Active based on  Ubuntu touch I think KDE's thing, well that could have been nice, but need a nexus to run that
[22:42] <sebsebseb> no phone with that
[22:42] <sebsebseb> timeax: heh yeah I was one of those tablet backers
[22:43] <sebsebseb> timeax: I did get a jolla phone and such from them ok before though
[22:43] <timeax> Ouhh them refound u?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> timeax: I think Canoncial are going the right way really
[22:43] <sebsebseb> as well
[22:43] <sebsebseb> with there hardware partners
[22:43] <sebsebseb> BQ teh spanish one realeased the first phone what I SAID i HAD above
[22:44] <sebsebseb> a cheaper one,  then Meizu came out later that year with a more cutting edge one more high end seeming, which I also bought
[22:44] <sebsebseb> Meizu the chinese company.  then BQ came out with an updated phone to the oringal, which I haven't got since haven't really had money to spend on that yet
[22:44] <timeax> lol u bought everything ahahah
[22:44] <sebsebseb> and now MEizu out with hte pro 5, and  a tablet is about to come out
[22:44] <sebsebseb> I think the tablet will be more intersting
[22:45] <sebsebseb> timeax: I had oringally planned to buy both the gfirst bq one and the first meizu one
[22:45] <sebsebseb> I had also thought before that I HAD lost my bq phone, but luckily it turned up here in the house :d
[22:45] <timeax> I think sailfish look nice too,if the ubuntu touch port will work right, i'll attempt to port sailfish too
[22:45] <sebsebseb> the pro 5 I am a bit eh to, but  I know Meizu has a nice quality phone so
[22:45] <timeax> Ahaha
[22:45] <sebsebseb> timeax: yes you can port Salifish into stuff to or should be able to
[22:46] <timeax> Yep i read that its almost like porting a cyanogen rom
[22:46] <sebsebseb> I think when some more common branded make
[22:46] <sebsebseb> decices oh ok we will do Ubuntu touch now as well
[22:46] <sebsebseb> I'll be like eh to whoever it is, not buying that!
[22:46] <timeax> So if ill be able to port ubuntu touch ill be able to port sail too
[22:46] <sebsebseb> Why?  since  uhmm I'll have loads of Ubuntu phones already heh
[22:46] <sebsebseb> and such
[22:47] <sebsebseb> and that only happens, if it becomes popular enough
[22:47] <sebsebseb> then a more common known company will risk it, selling Ubuntu touch on something
[22:47] <sebsebseb> maybe that will start to happen later this year
[22:47] <sebsebseb> timeax: I am interested in in alternatives to Android :)
[22:47] <timeax> Yep probably
[22:47] <sebsebseb> and things like that
[22:48] <sebsebseb> timeax: altough one alternative device I hve twell two make that really, i s based on Android, but quite nice yes
[22:48] <sebsebseb> the remix os stuff
[22:48] <sebsebseb> timeax: oh yeah you might be able to por tthat to something even later on heh
[22:48] <timeax> Me too but i'd avoid ios and win as altrrnatvies to android lol
[22:48] <sebsebseb> timeax: yes I don't want to use Win or IOS as such
[22:49] <sebsebseb> I did buy a Ipad Air last year, but only since I Got it much cheaper than the UK price new in a shop, and wanted to try ios
[22:49] <timeax> ii use remix os on my netbook lol
[22:50] <sebsebseb> timeax: Ideally we need a proper Linux alternative out there, to Ios, Andorid, Windows etc,  and seems Ubuntu Touch currently has the most potential at possibly becoming the one
[22:50] <sebsebseb> depending on how things go
[22:50] <timeax> Yep i think the same
[22:50] <sebsebseb> there's Tizen sort of to, but depending on how Samsung want to play
[22:51] <sebsebseb> so far they are like India only
[22:51] <sebsebseb> for phones with it
[22:51]  * genii ponders Sailfish
[22:51] <timeax> But if nubody will buy ubuntu based phones,i think canonical will leave mobile market
[22:51] <sebsebseb> genii: you like Salifish OS ?
[22:51] <sebsebseb> timeax:  yes possibly
[22:51] <genii> sebsebseb: Didn't seem so bad last time I tried it, about 3-4 months ago
[22:52] <sebsebseb> yeah it's good :)
[22:52] <sebsebseb> timeax: or more than one :d ? heh
[22:53]  * sebsebseb isn't just buying Ubuntu Phones, to sell them a bit later on, or throw them out, or recycle them
[22:53] <sebsebseb> oh he's gone
[22:55] <sebsebseb> genii: have you got an Ubuntu Phone yet?
[22:55] <sebsebseb> genii: aren't you in USA to or some where like tat?
[22:55] <sebsebseb> that
[22:55] <AndroUser> Hey guys sry androirc crashed lol
[22:55] <AndroUser> Im timeax
[22:55] <sebsebseb> AndroUser: oh ok nice your back :)
[22:55] <genii> sebsebseb: I'm in Toronto, Canada. I was running it before on my N4, but it currently has a smashed screen
[22:55] <sebsebseb> oh
[22:55] <sebsebseb> genii: oh
[22:56] <sebsebseb> genii: so you don't have an acstaul  BQ or Meizu one then
[22:56] <k1l_> genii: uh. i had a watered mainboard and got a cheap smashed screen n4 and made a franken n4 :)
[22:56] <sebsebseb> timeax: well you missed my /me I think then  so i'll repate it :d
[22:56]  * sebsebseb isnt just buying Ubuntu Phones, to sell tehm a bit later on, or throw them out, or recycle them
[22:57] <timeax> Anyway i used remix os un my netbook, i used the version 2.0 and had some bugs and crashes,so im not using it anymore
[22:57] <genii> sebsebseb: No, I'm currently waiting on getting an Ubuntu phone until I can be sure everything works
[22:57] <sebsebseb> genii: ok fair enough to the phone, but how about the tablet?  the BQ tablet with full convergence :d or so it seems
[22:58] <timeax> Yep i think i lost some posts
[22:58] <sebsebseb> timeax: yeah I want to be able to look back at those devicde years from now, and be like ah yes that!
[22:59] <sebsebseb> timeax: oh and more so heh, if Ubuntu actsaully takes off on mobile!
[22:59] <sebsebseb> big IF here
[22:59] <genii> sebsebseb: I'm not rich enough to buy equipment just for fun. And I already have a laptop, desktop, notebook, tablet and phone :)
[22:59] <sebsebseb> ,but if so, I could be like to people, yeah ok you like that, but look I have....
[22:59] <sebsebseb> the first ones of that
[22:59] <sebsebseb> genii: same here I am not really rich enough to buy stuff just for fun either
[23:00] <timeax> Ahahah yep i know what u mean seb i still store my old hp rw6815 and sometimes i pick it just for playing a bit ahahah
[23:00] <sebsebseb> genii: or I would have bought certain devices
[23:00] <sebsebseb> timeax: your old what?
[23:01] <timeax> Hp rw6815
[23:01] <sebsebseb> what's that?
[23:01] <timeax> A pocket pc phone
[23:01] <sebsebseb> timeax: did it take of
[23:01] <sebsebseb> f
[23:01] <sebsebseb> timeax: go main streame
[23:01] <sebsebseb> ?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> or sort of
[23:01] <sebsebseb> no ?
[23:01] <timeax> Bought it in 2006
[23:02] <timeax> Still work lol
[23:02] <sebsebseb> timeax: but yes I could look back at those devices in say 10 years that's the idea
[23:02] <sebsebseb> timeax: and be like ah yes 2015 and 2016
[23:02] <timeax> Ahahah
[23:02] <genii> sebsebseb: There was a time I had more resources for such things, this is how I ended up with an OpenMoko phone for instance
[23:02]  * sebsebseb still has the  Nintendo Game boy from child hood :d
[23:03] <timeax> Ahahahah lol me too ahahah
[23:03] <sebsebseb> and  I got two of the old game consoles etc
[23:03] <sebsebseb> genii: resources as in money?
[23:03] <timeax> Maybe we are tecnologic nostalgics aahahah
[23:03] <genii> sebsebseb: Money, and also time to spend with the tinkerings
[23:03] <sebsebseb> genii: if I save for long enough I can buy certain things currently :d
[23:04] <timeax> Where u from guys?
[23:04] <sebsebseb> genii: right now I coudn't buy any of those new Ubuntu devices right now, since to short on general cash
[23:04] <sebsebseb> timeax: England
[23:04] <genii> timeax: Canada
[23:05] <timeax> Me italy
[23:05] <sebsebseb> yeah I saw your host name timeax :d
[23:05] <sebsebseb> genii:  time yeah your probably also a old dude heh
[23:05] <sebsebseb> I am reasonably young still :d
[23:06] <timeax> Ahuahah lol
[23:06] <timeax> Im 28
[23:06] <timeax> Not so old lol
[23:06] <sebsebseb> timeax: yeah
[23:07] <timeax> And you?
[23:07] <sebsebseb> timeax: not saying here heh
[23:07] <timeax> No prob
[23:07] <sebsebseb> timeax: yeah would be interesing if it did take off though or enough Ubuntu Touch
[23:08] <sebsebseb> timeax: like Firefosx has for example or something like that
[23:08] <sebsebseb> Firefox above
[23:08] <timeax> How you saw my host name?
[23:08] <sebsebseb> nick list
[23:08] <sebsebseb> then years from now it would be like, yes, I was an early adopter of that
[23:08] <sebsebseb> that new thing that's popularish
[23:08] <sebsebseb> well not new, but new in the sort of main streame
[23:09] <sebsebseb> new on contracts etc
[23:09] <sebsebseb> for some companies
[23:09] <sebsebseb> or it wil just be a niche os like Ubuntu on the desktop, time will tell
[23:10] <timeax> Yeye i know what you mean :)
[23:10] <sebsebseb> timeax: could even come back to this chat if remembering it heh when it took place years from now
[23:11] <sebsebseb> timeax: look at the channel log heh :d
[23:11] <timeax> Finally my pc finished to backup , lol its time to try to build ubuntu touch
[23:11] <timeax> Ahahahah
[23:11] <sebsebseb> timeax: ok good luck and have fun with that  then :)
[23:12] <timeax> Tnx :)
[23:37] <timeax> Oldbenz are u free?