[06:28] Morning [06:29] Anybody tried kernel 4.5 yet? [06:41] Hi [06:41] hi qwebirc53644 === qwebirc53644 is now known as Iqbal [06:44] I need assistance please. I had an upgrade to 15.10 and it crashed my laptop. [06:59] morning everyone [07:01] morning Kilos happy monday! [07:01] hi TinuvaMac inetpro superfly thatgraemeguy and everyone else [07:01] hi cal_py [07:01] coffee time [07:01] Maaz coffee on [07:01] * Maaz washes some mugs [07:02] cal_py have some cyber coffee too === zipper is now known as Guest60671 [07:02] hahahahahaha! [07:03] just type in maaz coffee please [07:03] Maaz coffee please [07:03] cal_py: Okay [07:04] inetpro coffee time [07:04] Maaz coffee time [07:04] It is always coffee time! [07:04] Maaz with milk [07:04] Haha Kilos You aren't one of those that needs to drink black coffee to be able to cast a shadow! [07:04] Maaz and cremora [07:04] Kilos: Sorry... [07:05] oh my [07:05] Maaz with cremora [07:05] Ah! At last someone with taste [07:05] Coffee's ready for Kilos and cal_py! [07:06] Maaz dankie man [07:06] Groot plesier my vriend [07:06] Maaz thanks! [07:06] cal_py: No problem [07:16] Kilos: Good morning. [07:20] hi zipper [07:21] Kilos: At work bro. Talk l8r. [07:21] Peace [07:27] hi Kilos, cal_py, zipper [07:27] hi Kilos superfly zipper [07:28] hey theblazehen! [07:28] hey superfly [07:28] how are you [07:33] tired, but OK thanks. [07:34] good good, good weekend? [07:42] reinstalled a server [07:42] still busy getting things back up [07:43] cool! [07:43] question time is dango a good idea?\ [07:43] to use instead of PHP [07:52] You can't compare Django and PHP. Django is a web framework and PHP is a language. [07:52] Python is better than PHP, yes. [07:52] But Flask is a better framework than Django [07:58] so where do you suggest I start if I wanted to build a web app today? [07:58] at the basics [07:59] yeah probably 1st decide your language of choice [07:59] python [07:59] php can be hosted on any shared webhosting service [07:59] I mean like a tutorial on web apps with python guys... [07:59] but python is far better than php in almost any instsance [07:59] and flask is pretty cool [08:00] though if I had to use php, the Slim framework is what I would use on the backend [08:01] but thats just the backend, you also need a frontend [08:02] on the frontend i would use angularjs [08:05] cool, well I've build web apps before with php and bootstrap and they've worked out fine, but I really want to use a python back end now, so any one know any good tutorial on getting started with flask? I want to jump into that as soon as I'm done with "A Byte of Python" [08:05] *built [08:05] hand are too fast today [08:05] try [08:05] https://realpython.com/blog/python/flask-by-example-part-1-project-setup/ [08:06] sqlalchemy is pretty awesome too connecting to relational dbs [08:07] this look s way more advanced than PHP [08:09] real python looks like a awesome site [08:12] php aint bad, but then you learn python and ask yourself, why havent you started with it sooner :P [08:13] lol! [08:25] you can also learn bzr [08:26] whats that Kilos [08:26] and building static websites like http://ubuntu-africa.info [08:26] bazaar i think [08:27] ok cool! [08:27] bzr was used with nikola to build that site [08:27] but dont get slack with python [08:27] make that your priority [08:28] yeaj i have :) [11:43] theblazehen the ssd and dvd use different connectors dvd uses a mpcie i think or mome other name so one has to get a caddy [11:44] Hmm, okay. That sucks Kilos [11:45] found one at supplier at ebay for R100 but ebay dont ship to here [11:45] sigh [11:45] local they near R1500 [11:45] Ouch [11:46] one could buy a batch of them and sell locally for 4 or 500 even [11:57] what are you shopping for? [12:50] thatgraemeguy a caddy for a thinkpad to put a ssd in place of the dvd [12:51] sorry was just fetching a runaway ran from a couple ks away [12:51] ram [12:51] now even my toes are sweating [12:52] 35c is too hot to run after a sheep [12:53] what model thinkpad [12:53] T410.i [12:54] here is the ebay link [12:54] http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultrabay-Slim-SATA-2nd-Hdd-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T410s-T510-/330503437162?pt=UK_Computing_HardDrives_RL&hash=item4cf38a3b6a&autorefresh=true [12:55] that says t410s? [12:55] i didnt even notuce that i saw 410's [12:56] notice [12:56] it looks the same as what i need [12:57] connector left corner and drive in centre [12:57] doesn't look like there is such a thing as a "T410i" [12:57] ai! [12:58] http://www.amazon.com/Thinkpad-Ultrabay-original-Newmodeus-carrying/dp/B009OLJD0Y [12:58] http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-t-series-laptops/thinkpad-t410i [12:58] lemme look [12:58] ew [12:58] ok i dunno then sorry :-/ [12:59] ok i dunno then sorry :-/ [12:59] ya that looks the same [12:59] but much more expenzive [12:59] whew [13:01] http://www.ebay.com/itm/2nd-HDD-SSD-Hard-Drive-Caddy-for-IBM-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T410si-T410i-T420s-T420si-/111438928374?hash=item19f24719f6:g:GQgAAOSwfcVULQX2 [13:02] I think you'll find "much more expensive" is the difference between a lenovo-branded item and a chinese knock-off [13:02] at a guess anyway [13:03] most likely yes the actual lenovo one here is R1475 or something [13:03] ty for the help [13:03] strange that link i had says they dont ship to za [13:04] not strange, ebay is a marketplace like gumtree, its up to the seller to decide who they are willing to ship to [13:04] i can keep using the standard drive till i get to aus and then get one there fopefully [13:05] but this ssd is very lekker [13:05] oh [13:05] its the actual salesguy that dont ship [13:05] here i thought it was ebay [13:05] ty for the help [13:06] need to sleep a while, head thumping [16:00] evening all [16:01] hi chesedo [16:01] how is your butt? [16:01] huh, my butt? [16:02] you in the hot seat again tomorrow night [16:02] round with two cushions :P [16:02] lol [16:02] * chesedo thought that was next week [16:02] 23rd [16:03] especially all the pta peeps must try attend [16:03] theblazehen you in pta hey [16:05] wow, that "Ubuntu for Hope" seems great!!! [16:05] yeah [16:05] yeah how all pta peeps will add their voice... [16:05] karl will be happy if some pta peeps can help [16:05] * chesedo goes to dinner wbb [16:06] this could grow from here to all za [16:06] enjoy [16:48] it would be great if it could [16:51] i think it will there is already a group in durbs doing up pcs for other countried in africa [16:51] i forget their nsme [16:51] name [16:52] the dbnlug guys should know [17:02] Kilos: yeah === qwebirc70339 is now known as Iqbal [17:15] Apologies for my absence [17:15] I was out of town [17:16] To kilos and others who were assisting me last week [17:21] hi Iqbal [17:22] theblazehen try attend tomorrow nights meeting, you met karl i think [17:26] qwebirc52414 did you have any success [17:26] i forget what you were doing [17:36] Kilos: Alright, I should be able to attend [17:36] yay [17:36] oh hi theblazehen, how are you? [17:39] hi chesedo. Fine and you? [17:39] great ty [17:53] hi chesedo [17:58] hi superfly [17:59] im gonna crash early peeps [17:59] night all. sleep tight [20:09] good evening [20:36] what is preferred or best location for installing programs from tar.gz archives? [21:55] good night