| cjbayliss | G'day folks! I'm trying to test the 64bit iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/ and the installer won't start, so I try and report the bug and it is supposedly already reported. However I cannot veiw the bug, could someone confirm that this bug is actually reported? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1547518 | 00:24 |
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| ubottu | Error: launchpad bug 1547518 not found | 00:24 |
| knome | it's reported, but set as private | 00:24 |
| cjbayliss | ok, cool. Thanks. :) | 00:25 |
| Unit193 | Couldn't remember when dead link and private. Private should likely say something about being private... | 00:25 |
| knome | set the bug as public since it had 2 public duplicates.. | 00:29 |
| cjbayliss | Cool. :) | 00:30 |
| cjbayliss | Right, a yukky patch has been supplied on that bug. | 01:31 |
| cjbayliss | Actually, it is never yukky to put things in try: except: but there is possibly something else that needs fixing, and I sick in bed and can't be bothered looking into it. | 01:32 |
| bluesabre | morning all | 12:14 |
| bluesabre | didn't get to be home at all yesterday, so nothing accomplished | 12:14 |
| bluesabre | Today is Beta 1 Freeze, Thursday is Beta 1 | 12:15 |
| bluesabre | I might have a chance to get some uploads in tonight, we'll see | 12:15 |
| knome | huzzah | 12:16 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: if someone from -release joins the party there will be :p | 12:22 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: also - I could try and get it started tomorrow anyway - if that helps you :) | 12:30 |
| knome | le sigh | 14:36 |
| knome | wb ochosi | 19:09 |
| ochosi | hmm crap. remote login crapped out again | 19:09 |
| ochosi | how much did i miss? | 19:09 |
| ochosi | (was away over the weekend at cottage with sauna) | 19:10 |
| knome | some | 19:10 |
| ochosi | guess i should really move to some other remote login | 19:10 |
| knome | like pleia2's? :P | 19:10 |
| ochosi | yeah like one that doesn't randomely reboot every month | 19:10 |
| knome | :) | 19:14 |
| flocculant | hi ochosi :) | 19:14 |
| ochosi | hey flocculant | 19:15 |
| flocculant | beta 1 building | 20:20 |
| knome | branau, any progress on the wallpaper contest site? | 20:34 |
| knome | branau, i've set up something on my own today, but if your code works better, we can use that too | 20:34 |
| branau | Hey knome, just saw this | 20:44 |
| knome | np | 20:44 |
| branau | I haven't had a chance to work on it today, but I will tonight when I'm off work | 20:44 |
| knome | i'm sure some of the work i've done is useful even with your code | 20:45 |
| branau | I get off here in about 3 hours and then I'll be free all evening | 20:45 |
| branau | did you push your code to the git repo in launchpad? | 20:45 |
| knome | no, it's not derived from your code anyway | 20:45 |
| branau | Ah, you started from scratch? | 20:46 |
| knome | yeah, first i was working on the UI, then i quickly added some functionality | 20:46 |
| branau | Gotcha, yeah I didn't make any changes to the theme at all so far, do you want to add your code as like a separate branch or something so I can pull it down and work on merging it? Or do you want me to just send you the code for my plugin? | 20:48 |
| knome | if you are free in 3 hours, ping me again then | 20:48 |
| knome | let's see how we want to merge these, or how to proceed | 20:48 |
| branau | Sounds good. I'd check it out now but I'm on the clock and I'm not sure my bosses would approve of paying me for working on other projects haha | 20:50 |
| knome | np | 20:50 |
| branau | I've gotta get into freelance work so I don't have to worry about it :P | 21:02 |
| knome | branau, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/wallpaper-contest/wallpaper-submissions.tar.gz | 21:18 |
| knome | branau, feel free to test and try to rip it off... | 21:18 |
| knome | branau, here *all* users should be able to upload, and all administrators vote | 21:18 |
| knome | branau, vote counting is done automatically, and the submit form prompts for license and attribution | 21:19 |
| branau | Knome, so are the users not going to be able to vote? just admins? | 21:19 |
| branau | knome, I've also developed a like/dislike plugin that I was going to modify to use here, but if you've already built something specifically for this then we can go with that | 21:24 |
| Nairwolf | Hi guys, I would like to ask you, in order to test new builds, is it necessary to download and install xub each time, or can I just update my packages ? | 21:25 |
| Nairwolf | on my test computer, I have Xubuntu with a build from few days | 21:25 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: you need to grab image - as the tests are about *that* iso | 21:25 |
| flocculant | so once you have the iso - you can update that with zsync - it just grabs the difference | 21:26 |
| flocculant | hence people using virtual machines to do a lot of testing | 21:26 |
| Nairwolf | I'm not using a virtual machines. Could you explain me what is zsync, and how much is different to do "sudo apt update && apt dist-upgrade" ? | 21:27 |
| flocculant | apt update just updates your repositories - then upgrade (either) upgrades packages *you* have where needed | 21:28 |
| flocculant | zsync checks the iso against the current one - then grabs the differences - so no need to download 1Gb again - could be just 5% | 21:28 |
| flocculant | if you read the testcases against what we are testing you will see that it is about using *todays* iso | 21:29 |
| flocculant | your updated/graded xubuntu - might be completely different to the iso - and if you installed when we still had gmusicbrowser it will be | 21:30 |
| Nairwolf | Yes, I've read your emails, that's why I was asking for that | 21:30 |
| flocculant | :) | 21:30 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: often we will want people to test specific apps - catfish say - then you can do that with what you have | 21:31 |
| Nairwolf | okay, but today you ask speficaly for the new iso, right ? | 21:32 |
| flocculant | yep | 21:33 |
| Nairwolf | Sorry again, but I don't understand what will be different from the iso from last week ? | 21:33 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: however I just sent another mail to the list - there is a nasty bug on hardware with batteries - the installer crashes - there will be rebuilds | 21:33 |
| Nairwolf | I have a computer with batterie, so I think I will test that tomorrow after my examen | 21:34 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: I zsynced my image yesterday morning - this evening I did the same, zsync had to download some to make it current | 21:35 |
| flocculant | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15174375/ | 21:37 |
| Nairwolf | yes, but what is different if packages updated isn't enough ? | 21:38 |
| ochosi | flocculant: gotta head to bed, but not before saying thanks for taking on the community part of the xenial b1 release! | 21:38 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: ^^ zsync checked the 32bit image that I have locally against the new one, found I had 86.4% so only got 15.6% to make it right | 21:38 |
| flocculant | ochosi: welcome :) | 21:38 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: because there is no guarantee that anyone's machine is what we need testing | 21:38 |
| Nairwolf | anyway, where can I find a tutorial to update my iso with zsync ? I've turned on my computer | 21:38 |
| Nairwolf | yes, I believe you ;) | 21:39 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: here :) | 21:39 |
| Nairwolf | here ? | 21:40 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: ok so I can't point you art the wiki - it's down | 21:40 |
| flocculant | so what are you wanting to zsync - 32 or 64bit? | 21:41 |
| flocculant | and I will talk you through it :) | 21:41 |
| Nairwolf | 64 bits | 21:42 |
| flocculant | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/357/builds/113125/testcases | 21:43 |
| flocculant | there you can see the Link to download information - click that and you get all the info for this milestone on 64bit | 21:43 |
| Nairwolf | Xenial Beta 1 ? | 21:44 |
| flocculant | now - using file manager - open a terminal where your existing iso is located - for me that's /Images/Xenial/ | 21:44 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: yep - that's what we are testing till Thursday | 21:45 |
| Nairwolf | oh, but I've removed my iso ! | 21:45 |
| Nairwolf | and even with rzync, I still need to install it on my test-computer, right ? | 21:45 |
| flocculant | ok - so zsync won't work as expected - what it WILL do is tell you it has none and is going to grab the whole iso | 21:46 |
| Nairwolf | ok, so, it's better to download directly xubuntu beta 1 | 21:46 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: it makes no difference - if you do it the zsync way now - you'll know how to do it thereafter | 21:46 |
| Nairwolf | ok, so I'm going to learn now | 21:47 |
| flocculant | so open a terminal where you want the iso to be | 21:47 |
| Nairwolf | yes | 21:47 |
| flocculant | then from the download page http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/357/builds/113125/downloads | 21:48 |
| flocculant | copy and paste the zsync line into the terminal and press enter | 21:48 |
| Nairwolf | ok, it's easy ;) | 21:49 |
| flocculant | yep - it should have warned you it had to get the whole thing :) | 21:49 |
| Nairwolf | indeed | 21:49 |
| flocculant | do it tomorrow - and it will check the iso and then just get what's different :) | 21:49 |
| Nairwolf | what is rsync flocculant ? | 21:49 |
| flocculant | just a different way of achieving the same result | 21:50 |
| flocculant | afaik anyway :) | 21:50 |
| Nairwolf | ok | 21:51 |
| flocculant | http://zsync.moria.org.uk/paper/ch02s07.html | 21:51 |
| flocculant | apart from anything - if I am typing it manually it's easier to type zsync than rsync -tzhhP | 21:52 |
| knome | branau, we likely want to allow only a small group of people to vote; that said, this is based on the user role, so it's easy to modify that to anything else | 21:53 |
| Nairwolf | yes, you right flocculant | 21:54 |
| knome | branau, one thing that is NOT done in that version is nonces for the ajax requests for boting, but that should be trivial enough | 21:54 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: I do this more or less every day, so I don't actually type anything other than my alias 'image' which zsyncs the 32 and 64bit iso's and then removes the old file when it's done | 21:54 |
| Nairwolf | just another thing, each time I would like to test a new iso, I will need to do that ? Update the iso with zsync, and install it on my computer ? | 21:54 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: yes | 21:55 |
| Nairwolf | okay, and which tool do you use to build the iso in a usb key ? | 21:55 |
| branau | knome sounds good, I can grab the missing pieces from the plugin I wrote | 21:55 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: but - if you're doing this often - virtual machines are a useful tool - *most* of the tests I do - I do in a virtual machine | 21:55 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: I use the gnome disks tool | 21:56 |
| Nairwolf | okay, I don't know this tool | 21:56 |
| flocculant | gnome-disk-utility | 21:56 |
| flocculant | it does a bunch of things - one of which is restore an image - so I 'restore' the iso to the usb stick | 21:57 |
| Nairwolf | why do you prefer it to unetbootin for example ? | 21:57 |
| flocculant | there have been problems with loads of the tools - unetbootin was causing problems - I stopped using it a year or so back | 21:58 |
| knome | branau, basically, https://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/check_ajax_referer | 21:59 |
| knome | but that really is more or less trivial | 21:59 |
| Nairwolf | yes, I've heard that badly | 21:59 |
| Nairwolf | I've checked on my computer, gnome-disk-utility is inside gnome-disks, right ? | 22:00 |
| Nairwolf | because I can't launch "gnome-disk-utility" but I can launch gnome-disks | 22:00 |
| flocculant | yep | 22:00 |
| branau | knome yep, I'm familiar with the process. Pretty simple | 22:00 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: in the menu as Disks | 22:01 |
| Nairwolf | yes | 22:01 |
| Nairwolf | Oh, I've been confused. 'restore' mean create a usb key bootable | 22:03 |
| Nairwolf | restore means : writing into the usb key | 22:03 |
| flocculant | yea | 22:06 |
| flocculant | make sure you've picked the right drive in the left panel | 22:06 |
| knome | branau, i just landed that fix on my test server plugin (not in the tarball) | 22:07 |
| knome | i should get that up in a repository today | 22:07 |
| Nairwolf | flocculant, I think I'm doing the right thing ;) | 22:07 |
| flocculant | if you aren't you'll wish you had | 22:08 |
| Nairwolf | ok, I'm testing the usb key in the second computer ;) | 22:08 |
| flocculant | \o/ | 22:08 |
| branau | knome cool, you want to shoot me an updated tarball then? | 22:08 |
| Nairwolf | no... it's not bootable... | 22:08 |
| Nairwolf | Am I missing something wrong ? | 22:09 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: no idea tbh - works for me :) | 22:09 |
| knome | branau, in some time, i need to do other things meanwhile | 22:09 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: if you normally use something else - use that :) | 22:09 |
| knome | (and i just broke something in php too) | 22:09 |
| branau | knome no worries, I've still got another hour or so of work before I can clock out | 22:10 |
| flocculant | well I gtg now - night all :) | 22:10 |
| branau | night flocculant! | 22:10 |
| Nairwolf | flocculant: that's what I'm doing | 22:12 |
| Nairwolf | I always forget, should I format in fat32, or in ext4 for the usb key ? | 22:12 |
| Nairwolf | for this test : http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/357/builds/113125/testcases/1663/results | 22:20 |
| Nairwolf | I need to choose the option "Try Xubutu without installing" ? | 22:20 |
| Nairwolf | what is ubiquity ? | 22:20 |
| Nairwolf | okay, I've just tried the live session, and blueman-applet has crashed | 22:25 |
| Nairwolf | If someone can help me to write a bug report, that would be great ;) | 22:25 |
| knome | what kind of help do you need? | 22:26 |
| Nairwolf | knome: I wanted to follow this test ( http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/357/builds/113125/testcases/1663/results ) but I'm not sure to know what is ubiquity | 22:26 |
| knome | ubiquity is the installer | 22:27 |
| Nairwolf | and just after launched "xubuntu without installing", I have blueman-apple who has a crashed | 22:27 |
| knome | that is not ubiquity | 22:27 |
| knome | ubiquity is the part with the slideshow | 22:27 |
| Nairwolf | oh, it's what you see when you want to "install xubuntu", right ? | 22:27 |
| knome | branau, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/wallpaper-contest/xubuntu-wallpaper-contest.tar.gz | 22:28 |
| Nairwolf | ok, I see that ;) | 22:28 |
| knome | Nairwolf, i think in this case, where it reads "ubiquity" it should read "maybe-ubiquity" | 22:28 |
| branau | knome thanks, I'll plug it in and figure it out here in about an hour | 22:29 |
| knome | np | 22:29 |
| knome | branau, i believe this is "almost ready" as is; testing is totally welcome though | 22:29 |
| knome | branau, and things like prompting the user if they really want to delete their submission could be good | 22:29 |
| Nairwolf | knome: I've clicked on "try xubuntu without installing", and I've a crash of blueman, would I need to report it ? | 22:29 |
| branau | knome cool, I'll check it out and tweak anything that doesn't seem right. I'll post any changes to Launchpad | 22:30 |
| knome | Nairwolf, well at least it isn't totally wrong, so if you have the time, please do | 22:30 |
| knome | branau, wfm (or you can just be in touch with me directly) | 22:30 |
| knome | i had something else in mind but the thought just vanished | 22:31 |
| Nairwolf | The title is "blueman-apple crashed with dbus.exception.DBusExcpetion in call_blocking():" can you give me some indication in order to report it correctly, please ? | 22:31 |
| Nairwolf | Learn me to do it once, I would be able to do it next times ;) | 22:31 |
| knome | Nairwolf, in terminal, run "ubuntu-bug blueman-applet" (if that is the right package name) | 22:31 |
| knome | might be something else, but it will tell you | 22:31 |
| branau | knome wfm? I'm not familiar with the acronym | 22:31 |
| knome | branau, "works for me" | 22:32 |
| knome | branau, and now i remember it! | 22:32 |
| branau | Ah, I'll do both! | 22:32 |
| knome | branau, i have *only* essentially touched the plugin, so no need to do sql dumps and push the wp core | 22:32 |
| Nairwolf | knome: it launches apport (which was already opened in fact). | 22:33 |
| knome | Nairwolf, right, then just proceed from there as it says | 22:33 |
| knome | hello Unit193 | 22:33 |
| branau | Oh ok, nice. That's convenient | 22:33 |
| Nairwolf | But I have an error message "the problem cannot be reported: the report belongs to a package that is not installed". Whaaat ? | 22:33 |
| knome | mmh... from the command i gave you, or even before that? | 22:33 |
| Unit193 | I didn't say words. >_> | 22:34 |
| Nairwolf | From the command you gave me | 22:34 |
| Nairwolf | In fact, I've already apport oppened | 22:34 |
| Nairwolf | with all instructions | 22:34 |
| knome | Nairwolf, then dismiss that and continue with the apport window you had open | 22:34 |
| knome | Unit193, so? you have been caught nonetheless. | 22:34 |
| krytarik | Nairwolf: Notice that it's already linked here though: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/357/builds/113125/testcases | 22:34 |
| knome | krytarik, thanks ;) | 22:34 |
| krytarik | Sure. | 22:34 |
| knome | ok, other stuff for a while -> | 22:35 |
| Nairwolf | indeed, thank you krytark | 22:35 |
| Nairwolf | when I check the box "send an error report to help fix this problem" what's happen in reality ? | 22:35 |
| Nairwolf | Is it linked to launchpad ? | 22:35 |
| krytarik | Tries to report it to LP, yes. | 22:36 |
| Nairwolf | yes, apparently, it's this bug report : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/blueman/+bug/1533206 | 22:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1533206 in blueman (Ubuntu) "Blueman-applet crash on login: DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Failed to activate service 'org.bluez': timed out" [High,Confirmed] | 22:37 |
| Nairwolf | can you tell me how I can get the traceback ? | 22:39 |
| Nairwolf | in order to give it to launchpad, I don't know if it's useful or not | 22:39 |
| krytarik | Nairwolf: No need to report a bug multiple times. | 22:42 |
| Nairwolf | You're sure ? | 22:42 |
| Nairwolf | even at iso.qa.ubuntu.com ? | 22:42 |
| krytarik | You just link there. | 22:42 |
| Nairwolf | sorry, I don't understand your sentence | 22:43 |
| Nairwolf | it's already linked in fact | 22:43 |
| krytarik | When you report your test result, you just link the bug report to it. | 22:44 |
| krytarik | But no need to report the bug *itself* multiple times. | 22:45 |
| Nairwolf | ok, even if someone has already reported the same bug ? | 22:45 |
| Nairwolf | oh, too late... | 22:45 |
| Nairwolf | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/357/builds/113125/testcases/1303/results | 22:45 |
| Nairwolf | okay, I'm going to test "auto-resize" test | 22:49 |
| Nairwolf | thank you guys for helping me ;) | 23:03 |
| krytarik | Sure - thank you! | 23:04 |
| Nairwolf | I hope to become a good tester in few days ;) | 23:05 |
| knome | Nairwolf, just remember that testing isn't a competition in speed, usually quite the contrary | 23:13 |
| Nairwolf | Yes, you right, but if I'm able to do it regularly, and doing it well, that would be great ;) | 23:16 |
| Nairwolf | It's important to me to know how to report correctly a bug ;) | 23:16 |
| Nairwolf | I'm not really familiar with the bugtracker of launchpad | 23:17 |
| Nairwolf | except the ubiquity bug, the daily iso seems really stable, right ? | 23:17 |
| krytarik | Nairwolf: http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/qa-bugs.html | 23:18 |
| Nairwolf | thank you ;) | 23:24 |
| Nairwolf | Later, I would be interested to help in development, but I'm far from helping | 23:25 |
| Nairwolf | I still need to improve my skills as a developer, and I need to know more xubuntu world (and xfce) | 23:26 |
| knome | the contributor documentation at http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/ should help with pretty much anything you need to "get started" | 23:26 |
| knome | (realistically speaking, it doesn't, but if you find stuff that is missing, we'll gladly work to get it included) | 23:27 |
| Nairwolf | useful document ;) | 23:27 |
| Nairwolf | ok ;) | 23:27 |
| Nairwolf | that's enough testing for me tonight ;) | 23:28 |
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