dbarrosthis would be very nice in ubuntu default00:02
k1l_i dont think that will happen with unity.00:03
dbarroshe should have written in a way that it was very specific for Kylin, the way he puts it is that we get that as well.00:03
ChibaPetHey, I realize this is being lazy as I might be able to explore, but if I want to report a crashing bug or two in Xenial, what infrastructure do I want in place for that? I'm not running Unity, so I'll need to set it up by hand, whatever it is.00:09
ChibaPetI've looked over the apport page but I haven't enumerated all the infrastructure bits I'll want yet.00:10
OpenSorceSo, is gnome software manager implemented in 16.04?05:07
lotuspsychjeOpenSorce: yes it will be, there is already a ppa where it can be tested05:07
lotuspsychjeOpenSorce: but i hear they still need testers and devs, to get it straight on time05:08
OpenSorcelotuspsychje, tested in 14.04 or do I need to be running 16.04 to try it?05:08
lotuspsychjeyes adviced 16.0405:09
lotuspsychjeim running xenial on desktop pretty stable already05:09
lotuspsychjebut things ca still break in this phase05:09
OpenSorceGotcha, I'll grab a copy and throw on one of my machines. I'm dumping Mint from two machines tomorrow so it will probably go on one of those.05:10
lotuspsychjegood choice :p05:10
OpenSorceIf it's stable enough I'll put it on my main PC after some testing.05:11
lotuspsychjeOpenSorce: stable it is, but dont expect too many new features yet05:11
OpenSorceI know this is a touchy subject for Ubuntu people but... has Unity improved?05:12
lotuspsychjenewer packages and kernel etc05:12
lotuspsychjeoverall feeling will remind you at 14.04 in this stage05:12
lotuspsychjebut many new packages under the hood already05:12
lotuspsychjefinal release we all waiting for :p05:13
OpenSorceI'm not a fan of the current version, I may wait.05:13
lotuspsychjeOpenSorce: another possible layout, would be installing 14.04.4 then glide to 16.04 upgrade in april05:14
OpenSorcelotuspsychje, yeah I have a thrown together customized version of 14.04 on this machine. Closer to Lubuntu than anything else.05:15
OpenSorceI'll probably clone it then upgrade to 16.04 in April05:16
lotuspsychjegood idea05:16
lotuspsychjeim only on 16.04 to help bug out05:16
lotuspsychjeso we all have a nice clean LTS soon :p05:16
OpenSorceYeah, I kinda want to help out with that. Just can't stand Unity enough to be much help.05:17
lotuspsychjethere's a flavor for everyone mate :p05:17
OpenSorceI'm old school though, 9/10 times I do most of my stuff in a bare x-window with a single xterm opened :-P05:17
lotuspsychjeim oldskool too, but i also like linux eyecandy05:18
OpenSorceAnyway, thanks so much for the info :-)05:18
lotuspsychjeOpenSorce: np05:18
gareth__Hey folks. What's the recommended way to move from 15.10 to the latest unstable? (There's some radio packages I want and it's either Ubuntu or Debian, unstable)08:00
lordievaderGood morning.09:14
lordievaderHey Fudge, how are you?09:20
Fudgefrustrated actually mate09:21
Fudgetrying to figure out a way I can install ubuntu server daily onto my dell poweredge headless basically09:22
lordievaderEntirely headless?09:22
Fudgeso challenges are: i can't see. booting the server imae possibly into single user mode so I can setup ssh and then figuring out how to do it all manually as the installer is not accessible with a screen reader09:23
Fudgei have a monitor and keyboard plugged in09:23
Fudgeputting a soundcard in failed, it wouldnt boot09:23
Fudgewhich  would have meant that I could have booted a debian netinstall and used speech or a desktop image and installed then switch to a server kernel perhaps09:23
lordievaderThe Debian images support continueing the install over ssh.09:23
Fudgewhich might be an easier option but there is fussing about for raid with desktop installs anyway09:23
lordievaderNot sure if the Ubuntu images support that.09:24
Fudgetru, im not actually sure how to launch the ubuntu installer, ubiquity i guess and use debconf for a frontend09:24
Fudgeits just a big gap, since Ubuntu doesnt support any of the speech installs that Debian do on those netinstalls09:25
lordievaderYou could do a debootstrap install if you have ssh inside a live-session.09:25
Fudgeany docs on that?09:26
Fudgethat would be a good option, brb09:26
lordievaderIt is a Debian guide, but quite applicable: https://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/ia64/apds03.html.en09:28
Fudgethanks ill give it a read, is it correct that hit enter on ubuntu server for language then f6, type single to get a live prompt?09:33
lordievaderErr... maybe. I haven't seen the server images in ages.09:34
Fudgeall good09:34
cebalraiMy xenial install does not list less in the alternatives for pager. Is my config wrong or is that an unreported bug?10:41
spm_dragetDoes xenail come with some ntp client (systemd?) ?10:51
lotuspsychje!info ntp xenial10:51
ubottuntp (source: ntp): Network Time Protocol daemon and utility programs. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.8p4+dfsg-3ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 512 kB, installed size 1612 kB10:52
spm_dragetWell, there is a ntp client. :) Question is: Maybe systemd has some builtin10:52
lordievaderspm_draget: No, for as far as I know, systemd depends on ntpd for its ntp daemon.10:53
radish_hi, we're currently testing a preseed installation of 16.04 server and it seems like tasksel is not working correctly. We are setting "tasksel tasksel/first   multiselect Basic Ubuntu server, OpenSSH server", but openssh-server never gets installed.11:10
radish_Additionally, tasksel --task-packages TASK doesn't return anything valid. Executing tasksel install openssh-server after installation seems to work just fine.11:11
soupnanodesukaris xenial going to get wine1.8?12:34
cebalraiHas anyone run into problems with widgets and themes using plasma?12:42
lotuspsychje!info wine xenial12:43
ubottuwine (source: wine1.6): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (meta-package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu12 (xenial), package size 0 kB, installed size 6 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)12:43
lotuspsychjesoupnanodesukar: maybe on final release?12:43
BluesKajHowdy all13:10
lotuspsychjecoolmouse: alive?13:25
coolmouselotuspsychje: what?13:37
lotuspsychjecoolmouse: did you got better support for your gtx on xenial now?13:39
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BluesKaj hmm, apt-get autoclean is failing, if I cd to / and run apt-get autoclean, this error results:14:49
BluesKaj E: Could not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the download directory14:49
BluesKajsudo apt-get autoclean still does nothing at the / prompt14:51
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: other packages installing?14:52
lordievaderIs there another apt process running?14:52
ceed^I noticed that I do not have an "empty trash" option in the file manager after I got 16.04 on my computer. That used to be an option in the sidebar context menu for the trash. Is it only me, or is it missing?14:52
BluesKajnope no other apt processes running'14:52
lotuspsychjeceed^: yeah i didnt see 'bypass trash' in nautilus neither on xenial14:52
ceed^Whew, not only me then :)14:53
lotuspsychjeceed^: maybe final will fix that stuff14:53
ceed^lotuspsychje, not unless someone reports that it isn't there! :)14:54
BluesKajodd thing is autoclean works fine on the laptop with Xenial14:56
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: try bleachbit on xenial14:57
BluesKajlotuspsychje, I did , ir errors as well14:58
lotuspsychjeceed^: i think nautilus will get update too, maybe we should wait a bit longer?14:59
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: bleachbit as root also try?14:59
lotuspsychjepermission denied doesnt sound good15:00
BluesKajok , swc15:00
lordievader!bleachbit | lotuspsychje15:00
lordievaderHmm, no longer a thing?15:00
lordievaderAnyhow, don't use bleachbit. It is known for destroying installs.15:00
lotuspsychjelordievader: i never had one issue with it15:01
lotuspsychje!info bleachbit xenial15:01
ubottubleachbit (source: bleachbit): delete unnecessary files from the system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8-1 (xenial), package size 271 kB, installed size 2074 kB15:01
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: did it work?15:11
BluesKajdunno if bleachbit is what I want, the error is the real problem15:11
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: its same error users get when software center is open or something else installing, weird15:12
lordievaderBluesKaj: Rename the file and see if it persists.15:12
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: can your recall what you did last? update? install stuff?15:12
BluesKajatm my / is at 8G out of 16 which safe enoug i suppose , but it is creeping since it was only 6.8 the other day15:13
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: not related to your kernel ppa ads?15:14
BluesKajlo I removed the default software center and installed muon and libmuon , wonder if that left something behind causinmg the error15:14
lotuspsychjehmm that could be actually15:14
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: did you manually install something to a dir or sompething? or the official way15:15
BluesKajinstall muon and libmuon and apt removed the default software center15:17
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: maybe ubuntu doesnt like removing software center and gets in aptlock?15:18
BluesKajcould be15:20
lordievaderStill, I would just move the lock file and see if the error persists.15:33
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: any luck?15:36
BluesKajyeah, no more errors, had to reinstall kubuntu-desktop. Guess I removed to many default aps like Discover/software center and pulseaudio etc, but I purged pulseaudio again anyway :-)15:39
vincent42hi all, how stable is kubuntu 16.04 today ?15:40
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: one for you ^15:40
vincent42I'm doing a fresh kubuntu install and since 16.04 is coming soon I wonder if I should pick that even though it's not out yet15:40
BluesKajvincent42, quite stable actually15:40
lotuspsychjevincent42: just keep in mind things can still break in this phase15:40
BluesKajhope you don't plan on using it on th ejob though15:41
BluesKajon the job that is15:41
vincent42well it's for my main machine :)15:41
BluesKajhome user?15:41
vincent42so yeah on the job and out of the job15:41
vincent42ok, so I guess I'll keep 14.04 for now15:42
BluesKajtoo early for a work machine15:42
BluesKajyou could dual boot15:42
vincent42I try to avoid :)15:42
lotuspsychjevincent42: if you like testing and help the community file bugs15:42
lotuspsychjevincent42: it doesnt also mean it 'will' break, in fact it probably will remain pretty stable...but until final arrives, things can still go wrong15:43
vincent42I don't mind doing that, but yeah it's for my main machine so I need basic stuff like monitor switching  / sleeping to work stable15:44
vincent42(it's a laptop)15:44
lotuspsychjevincent42: it all depends how important you find reinstalling if things go wrong15:45
vincent42ok thanks for the infos, I'll stay safe for the moment, I might try it when I have a less important machine that need an OS install :)15:47
BluesKajvincent42, yes, for work machines it's best to err on the side of caution15:48
vincent42I guess 16.04 is fully using systemd now ?15:51
vincent42I 've been using arch a bit, and started to get used to it, so I'm looking a bit forward to see how it is in ubuntu15:55
vincent42that's one of the reason I considered switching to 16.04, but I'll wait a bit :)15:55
lotuspsychjevincent42: for now xenial looks like an updated 14.0416:00
lotuspsychjevincent42: real changes at final of course :p16:00
VolkodavHi! I have this issue with samba for a fer days, I got it to work yesterday, but today I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/15181320/. Should I change the permissions?16:40
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* genii decides to wait for Kubuntu 16.0617:51
lotuspsychjegenii: nice call mate :p17:51
lotuspsychjeill go for ubuntu desktop 16.0417:52
geniiWell, hopefully it's not actually that long. But two late releases in 12 years wouldn't be so bad17:52
ChibaPet!info synergy18:52
ubottusynergy (source: synergy): Share mouse, keyboard and clipboard over the network. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.2-0ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 772 kB, installed size 3441 kB18:53
Picithat still exists?18:56
lordievaderGone paid, didn't they?18:56
ChibaPetThat's an older version. It still exists and works, although I only use it between Unix systems.18:57
ChibaPetFinding compatible versions can be fun between platforms.18:58
ChibaPetAnd of course, they implement their own encryption, which I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole.18:58
ChibaPetToday's experimentation, anyway, is taking my project laptop and installing Xenial from the server ISO, and then adding in ZFS on LUKS as an add-on, not as root.18:59
ChibaPetI'm not at all clear on how (or if, really) systemd's cryptsetup.target deals with multi-stage mounting, where something must be mounted to get the keys for something else.19:00
ChibaPets/mounted/& after being descrypted/19:00
ChibaPetMy last run at it on 14.04, I ended up doing it manually from rc.local. Hoping this miracle we have called systemd can handle it.19:01
ChibaPetIf it works out, it will become the default desktop I deploy for my family.19:03
ChibaPetikonia: I can render an opinion now. "Pretty good."19:04
lordievaderFor me systemd notices on which disk the root logical volume resides, I find that a quite nice feature.19:05
ChibaPetI haven't tried that as yet. My only Xenial installs right now are root-on-ZFS-on-LUKS, which has required some tweaking.19:06
lordievaderErr, forgot to mention both disks use luks.19:07
lordievaderSystemd only asks for the password the root-fs is on.19:07
ChibaPetIndividually, or are you running the root luks on md-raid?19:07
lordievaderI got lvm on luks. Two luks encrypted disks with lvm spread over them.19:08
ChibaPetThere's a minor bug in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot where it will bail after probing and finding the first root provider.19:08
lordievaderBut I am not sure if you can specify a key file on some other disk.19:08
ChibaPetThat's close enough to what I'm doing that I'm surprised it worked.19:08
ChibaPetOut of curiosity, why not LVM on LUKS on MD-RAID? That cuts your crypto workload in half for the same level of security.19:09
lordievaderBecause I want lvm to do the raid stuff.19:10
ChibaPetUnless you're using two keys/passphrases, using two separate disks each encrypted separately potentially gives the attacker two cyphertexts with identical plaintext equivalents.19:10
lordievaderAnd it grew this way, it was just one disk for a long time.19:10
ChibaPetI don't yet trust LVM enough to let it manage my RAID. I still remember the LVM1 days when it'd eat itself occasionally.19:11
lordievaderFor as far as I know it uses md-raid for the raid stuff.19:12
ChibaPetI thought it didn't use quite the same back-end, but I could be wrong.19:12
lordievaderI'm not sure either ;)19:14
ChibaPetlordievader: Hey, are you familiar with apport? I want to know what to set up to capture a crash. One of my Xenial boxes (but not another) bails when I run xine and vlc to play a DVD. Both are Xeon boxes, different generations. Both running up to date Xenial, both on ZFS root. It's odd that they behave differently.19:21
ChibaPetI haven't dug in deeply yet and I've been busy, so I'm hoping someone can shorted the search. :P19:22
lordievaderNo, not really.19:24
lordievaderI'd strace it.19:24
ChibaPetYeah. I should. I haven't had a chance, but I'll do it tonight.19:24
ChibaPetDoes apport give anything more than an strace? I'd like to submit a maximally-usable bug report.19:25
lordievaderNo idea. Never really used apport.19:32
ChibaPetI'll pursue that more too.19:34
ChibaPetBy God, it Just Worked.20:34
lordievaderHehe, nice. That's a first :P20:35
ChibaPetHaving my key spec'd in /etc/crypttab (even where / has to be decrypted before mount) resulted in my zpool being mounted and all the relevant datasets being properly mounted.20:36
lordievaderNice, nice.20:36
ChibaPetI'm going to henceforth being a heathen (in ZFS terms) and *not* use ZFS on root until Ubuntu formally supports it.20:36
ChibaPetThe other thing I noted on a careful read of the crypttab man page makes me think that I might be able to get away without having to mangle the cryptroot hook if I specify the "initramfs" option. This option doesn't show up in 14.04, so maybe it's there for people like me.20:38
PryMar56just brought up Xen 4.6.1 in Xenial with 7 VM. its built from upstream source21:09
ChibaPetI miss the xm command set. What's 4.6.1 use? xe?21:11
PryMar56ChibaPet, xl21:12
ChibaPetOh, right. xe is XenServer.21:12
ChibaPet!info xen-linux-system-amd6421:13
ubottuPackage xen-linux-system-amd64 does not exist in xenial21:13
ChibaPet!info xen-hypervisor21:13
ubottuPackage xen-hypervisor does not exist in xenial21:13
PryMar56I got 12M/s from repos when moving from wily to xenial21:13
ChibaPetDoes Canonical ship one themselves?21:13
PryMar56ChibaPet, I didn't check for Xenial version of Xen. I built it from upstream source in a VM21:13
ChibaPet!info xen-hypervisor-4.4-amd6421:14
ubottuxen-hypervisor-4.4-amd64 (source: xen): Transitional package for upgrade. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.6.0-1ubuntu4 (xenial), package size 5 kB, installed size 45 kB21:14
ChibaPet!info xen-hypervisor-4.6-amd6421:15
ubottuxen-hypervisor-4.6-amd64 (source: xen): Xen Hypervisor on AMD64. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.6.0-1ubuntu4 (xenial), package size 743 kB, installed size 1845 kB21:15
ChibaPetI got the wrong one. Cool. I'll have to set that up sometime to replace the equivalent on a Debian box at home.21:15
ChibaPetPryMar56: Out of curiosity, how does xl compare with xm in your opinion?21:16
PryMar56ChibaPet, the logic is the same. xl is compiled C & xm is python script21:18
PryMar56xl is quicker. As quick as you can type21:18
ChibaPetI'll have to dig in. I want to clone myself to have more time for projects.21:19
Ben64yes it does21:26
retrojeffsynaptic package manager has tons of bugs and xenial is really close to release21:27
k1l!bug | retrojeff21:28
ubotturetrojeff: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.21:28
retrojeffalso something I would like to see21:28
retrojeffis when you apt-get dist-upgrade and a new kernel is installed21:28
retrojeffthat dkms or w.e it is installs the kernel modules for the new kernel21:29
lordievaderIs Synaptic still supported.21:29
retrojefffor example nvidia and virtualbox21:29
retrojeffSynaptic package manager is amazing21:29
retrojeffif they ever remove it I will stop using Ubuntu21:30
lordievaderMight be wrong, but I thought support was more or less dropped with the introduction of the Ubuntu Software Center.21:30
retrojeffUSC is probley trash21:30
retrojeff95% sure it is or will be trash21:30
lordievaderI would probably agree... not sure.21:30
k1lretrojeff: if a new kernel is installed dkms builds the modules.21:31
lordievaderEmerge is great :D21:31
retrojeffUbuntu is becoming more and more like apple21:31
retrojeffdesigned for noobs21:31
lordievaderOr Portage, however you'd like to call it.21:31
retrojeffto hand hold21:31
retrojeffits gross21:31
k1lretrojeff: drop that attitude21:31
retrojefffacts are facts21:31
k1lretrojeff: you are free to use a "linux guru linux" that suits you better21:31
retrojeffI only speak truth21:31
k1lyou just show your state of knowledge.21:32
ChibaPetretrojeff: There are times when it's nice to have a bunch of stuff done for you and still have access to customization where you want it. Ubuntu is becoming my favourite distribution for striking just the right balance.21:32
retrojeffif Synaptic Package Manager is not installed by default21:33
retrojeffyou can always do "sudo apt-get install synaptic"21:33
k1lit is not installed by default since some time now21:33
retrojeffits one of the 1st things I do on a brand new install21:33
ChibaPetretrojeff: FWIW, I used to feel like you about dselect, but then I grudgingly started playing with aptitude, and now I wouldn't want to go back.21:33
k1ldselect :/21:34
retrojeffI like synaptic for the simple fact of if I want to remove a package I can visually see what else gets removed21:34
retrojeffor installed21:34
Ben64nobody is stopping you from using it21:34
retrojeffand right click on one of the other packages and choose to reinstall or purge it21:35
retrojeffthat level of power is amazing21:35
retrojeffno other package manager will ever replace synaptic21:35
retrojeffand to add filters thats powerful21:35
retrojeffand to see where a package came from (ie source)21:36
ChibaPetretrojeff: So, from your first point, have you tried aptitude? You see (visually!) what else will happen, exactly as you're describing.21:36
k1lretrojeff: a good tip: never tell the linux guru users you rely on a gui packagemanager :)21:37
ChibaPetSearching, limiting views, examining possible installs... All pretty easy.21:37
retrojeffaptitude is just a ncurses gui run in a terminal ?21:37
ChibaPetretrojeff: Yes. But it's a nice one.21:37
retrojeffaptitude is an ok gui21:37
retrojeffI still prefer Synaptic21:37
retrojeffthat will never change21:38
ChibaPetThat's fine. It's good to be comfortable with a range of tools to suit different situations.21:38
lordievaderretrojeff: So use Synaptic?21:38
retrojeffI do use Synaptic21:38
retrojeffI merely came in here to say its full of bugs right now21:38
retrojeffthat would be cool to be fixed before 16.04 is out21:39
Ben64so report the bugs21:39
retrojeffI have on its launchpad page21:39
retrojeffin fact so have others21:39
k1lretrojeff: you have been often enough an issue to know that this attitude does not help21:39
retrojeffthey seem to be abandoned21:39
k1l!bug | retrojeff21:39
ubotturetrojeff: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.21:39
k1lreport bugs and help to solve them.21:40
retrojeffno need too repeat that k1l21:40
retrojeffall that does is load up its page on launchpad.com21:40
k1lretrojeff: you keep repeating the same of your "facts" over and over again.21:40
retrojeffwhich I just finished saying I already did21:40
k1lretrojeff: but that is not helpfull. and you know that. better make a blog and post your rantings there21:41
k1lthat is the same level of helpfull as ranting here on irc.21:41
retrojeffif I encouraged more people to use Synaptic21:41
retrojeffmaybe these bugs would get noticed21:42
retrojeffand possibly fixed21:42
k1lfile that bugs yourself21:42
retrojeffwow what a concept21:42
retrojeffI have stated several times that I and others21:42
k1lwow what an attitude21:42
retrojeffhave already filed the bugs21:42
retrojeffits just in one ear and out the other with you21:42
retrojeffno wonder things suck around here21:42
lordievaderOr, even better, go out and fix the bugs yourself and submit a patch.21:43
k1l"i am the most important user on the world and my bugs need to be fixed first but i dont want to help i just demand things"21:43
retrojeffits not about demanding21:43
k1lretrojeff: you do21:43
retrojeffand other people as well have reported the same bugs21:43
retrojeffhence it affects multiple people21:43
retrojeffnot just myself21:43
k1lretrojeff: and you have been told and even were banned before.21:44
retrojeffwow again.... what a fucking concept21:44
k1lretrojeff: so drop that attitude or never come back21:44
retrojeffI am not a selfish asshole here thinking only of myself21:44
retrojefffuck this channel is pointless21:44
retrojeffI think its time to stop using ubuntu21:44
retrojefffucking run by children21:45
lordievaderWatch your language.21:45
k1li feel sorry for the other OS you will be ranting at.21:45
retrojeffI also run CentOS21:45
retrojeffwhich gives me 0 trouble21:45
retrojeffcause I use it as a server21:45
retrojeffin fact my 1st distro ever was Redhat 921:46
Ben64"run by children" ... yet can't speak using polite language21:46
retrojeffI always did like Fedora based distros21:46
Piciretrojeff: developers only have finite resources. Its just not feasible to fix every bug that is reported. Bugs for software that ship by default are given higher priority, and if the bugs aren't being fixed in debian either (which is where we sync from) then we won't get the fixes either.21:46
retrojeffI only tried ubuntu cause every one else uses it21:46
k1lretrojeff: ok, then go and use those OS. enough of demanding and insulting. that attitude is not welcome in the ubuntu community.21:46
ChibaPetCome now. I go away for a few minutes and there's all this nastiness. No need for it. Let's all be pleasant.21:52
retrojeffit seems like all these children in here know how to do is talk to a fucking bot21:59
retrojeffif you cant be bothered to be helpful just put the bot in charge21:59
retrojefflet it run the show22:00
retrojeffthats how humanity works now we just put technology in charge22:00
k1lretrojeff: you really want to read the guidelines and the ubuntu code of conduct. because you insulting and swaring is violating both22:00
retrojeffyour being alive is violating my air space22:01
retrojeffand sanity space22:01
retrojeffthe 1st thing you did when I came in here was use that fucking bot22:02
retrojeffwhich prooves my point22:02
k1lretrojeff: you were already banned in here (and your old ip is still banned) because of your attitude. so i would not go around and tell others what they do wrong.22:03
retrojeffgo fuck your mother or something22:03
retrojeffI take better shits compared to the help you give22:04
k1land if everyone is telling you the same, you might want to consider if your opinion is not the right one22:04
retrojeffall you do is repeat yourself and use a bot22:04
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retrojeffwhat a buzz kill22:05
k1lanything usefull from you? becasue for more insults and rantings you better start a own blog. this is not the place for such things.22:05
retrojeffyou sir are a buzz kill22:05
retrojeff!bug k1l22:05
retrojeff!bug k1l22:05
retrojeff!bug k1l22:05
retrojeff!bug k1l22:05
retrojeff!bug k1l22:05
retrojeffsee I can do it too22:05
retrojeffoh look lordievader had to use a bot for help22:06
retrojeffwhy am I not surprised22:06
ChibaPetretrojeff: Can you just stop please? There is nothing to be gained from this.22:06
retrojeffseriously let the bot run the show22:06
retrojeffit does a better job22:07
retrojeffinternet is just full of bots22:07
retrojeffbots hacking computers22:07
retrojeffbots spamming websites22:07
retrojeffbots having sex22:07
retrojeffthere will be no more humans left22:08
retrojeffby 205022:08
retrojeffwhy do anything when a bot can do it for you and better22:08
retrojeffshould just code a bot to fix these bugs22:09
retrojeffoh wow what a great idea22:09
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ChibaPetWoot, and the one snag I've hit so far is gone. The synergy source package from Trusty builds and runs on Xenial.23:32
geniiIf it eats your children don't come here for sympathy23:38
ChibaPetgenii: What could go wrong? :P23:38
ChibaPetEventually I'll move everything to Xenial and just use that version. But for these dark, in-between days...23:39
genii!info synergaly xeni23:39
ubottu'xeni' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed23:39
genii!info synergy xenial23:40
ubottusynergy (source: synergy): Share mouse, keyboard and clipboard over the network. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.2-0ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 772 kB, installed size 3441 kB23:40
ChibaPetMm. The 1.4 that Trusty ships is protocol-incompatible with 1.6.23:40
ChibaPetAt some point I want to write a stripped-down Unix/X-only workalike. Synergy jumped the shark when it started supporting Windows and MacOS.23:44
ChibaPetand adding a GUI23:44

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