[03:01] <theblazehen> Maaz tell magespawn I think /usr/local is recommended. And then /opt is used by what I can best describe as "application bundles", say proprietary software that doesn't fit neatly into the normal fhs. I have "firefox-developer  MYGUI  OGRE  phpstorm  teamviewer  unigine-valley" for example
[03:01] <Maaz> theblazehen: Okay, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[05:03] <Kilos> morning everyone
[05:23] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[05:25] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[05:25] <Kilos> inetpro will you do the G+ and tweet reminders please
[05:26] <Kilos> or chesedo 
[05:27] <Kilos> Maaz announce Meeting tonight , here, at 20.30 everybody
[05:27] <Maaz> Announcement from Kilos! Meeting tonight , here, at 20.30 everybody
[06:04] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:08] <dlPhreak> morning
[06:09] <theblazehen> hi thatgraemeguy dlPhreak
[06:10] <dlPhreak> How are you doing theblazehen ?
[06:10] <theblazehen> Alright and you dlPhreak?
[06:13] <dlPhreak> Tired. My insomnia had me up till 3am.. nothing that a crap tonne of caffeine won't take care of tho.
[06:15] <Kilos> hi theblazehen dlPhreak 
[06:15] <dlPhreak> Morning Kilos 
[06:16] <theblazehen> dlPhreak: Sucks.. Yeah, couldn't sleep either. got 2 hours at most. At least I feel like I had a *lot* of coffee, although I didn't actually. It's actually a kind of awesome feeling
[06:16] <theblazehen> Hi Kilos
[06:16] <Kilos> hi theblazehen  too
[06:16] <dlPhreak> I know that feeling.
[06:17] <theblazehen> dlPhreak: You also get that like really wired feeling?
[06:17] <theblazehen> I do this from time to time.
[06:18] <dlPhreak> When I haven't slept for more than a day, I feel slightly nauseated and I just want to be in sunlight.
[06:19] <theblazehen> Wow, that sucks. Yeah, doesn't happen often for me. Only when I skip my meds. So I can choose when I do it. Really useful if you have an exam the next day..
[06:20] <dlPhreak> Lol I actually like it.
[06:22] <thatgraemeguy> you people need serious medical help
[06:22] <thatgraemeguy> I would sleep 12 hours a day if I could :-p
[06:23] <theblazehen> thatgraemeguy: Yeah, I got :) It's just when I don't have that I can't sleep, I normally aim for 9 hours
[06:24] <thatgraemeguy> if only!
[06:24] <dlPhreak> If I sleep more than 6 hours I just feel groggy and lazy.
[06:25] <theblazehen> Wow, it would be awesome if I could sleep that little... Did that (6 hours) for a few weeks before, it was hell
[06:25] <Kilos> hi cal_py 
[06:26] <cal_py> morning Kilos hows the head?
[06:26] <Kilos> bit better ty
[06:26] <dlPhreak> It took me weeks to build the habbit.
[06:26] <Kilos> takes coupla days after heavy physical stuff
[06:26] <cal_py> good good
[06:26] <dlPhreak> habit*
[06:27] <cal_py> morning dlPhreak 
[06:27] <dlPhreak> cal
[06:27] <dlPhreak> How's your i3 install coming?
[06:28] <cal_py> good just need to figure out how to set up wifi networks in ubuntu minimal
[06:28] <dlPhreak> NetworkManager
[06:30] <cal_py> wpa_passphrse and moding /etc/network/interfaces
[06:31] <theblazehen> cal_py: I find netctl is easier
[06:31] <cal_py> does it come with ubuntu-minimal theblazehen 
[06:32] <theblazehen> cal_py: Not sure, I don't think it's compatible with network manager though
[06:32] <cal_py> is network manager the gui tool?
[06:32] <theblazehen> I'm running arch, so I can choose which I one
[06:33] <theblazehen> AFAIK there are GUI interfaces and CLI interfaces to network manager
[06:33] <dlPhreak> NetworkManager is the default one in ubuntu but you can use nmcli
[06:33] <cal_py> my plan, get wifi, install i3
[06:33] <dlPhreak> wpa_supplicant is a biatch.
[06:34] <cal_py> unless you write to op to a file
[06:35] <theblazehen> http://paste.pound-python.org/show/1qIEBOGEkEFmNoA3R65j/ my netctl wifi config
[06:35] <theblazehen> Quite simple
[06:36] <dlPhreak> Yeah I've used netctl on gentoo and it was pretty easy.
[06:39] <cal_py> ahhhhh, everyone is pro netctl
[06:41] <dlPhreak> I should probably star working. .
[06:43] <cal_py> na, 
[06:47] <chesedo> morning all
[06:47] <chesedo> Kilos: will see in a bit
[06:49] <Kilos> np
[06:55] <cal_py> i've given up how do i use netctl
[07:05] <cal_py> nvm, got it working :) :) :)
[07:05] <dlPhreak> wpa_supplicant?
[07:07] <cal_py> not really, just wrote the networks details to /etc/network/interfaces
[07:07] <dlPhreak> GG
[07:38] <Private_User> morning all
[08:00] <cal_py> HELP!
[08:01] <dlPhreak> I need somebody!
[08:02] <chesedo> Help with??
[08:03] <cal_py> I can only startx as root
[08:04] <chesedo> oh boy!
[08:04]  * chesedo has no idea how to handle that...
[08:05] <chesedo> have you checked the logs?
[08:05] <Kilos> how did you get to there
[08:05] <cal_py> I installed ubuntu minimal and i3\
[08:05] <Kilos> you can become root
[08:05] <Kilos> does sudo not work?
[08:06] <chesedo> does minimal even need X?
[08:06] <cal_py> i guess it does if you want i3
[08:06] <Kilos> cal_py sudo not working as root
[08:06] <Kilos> ??
[08:07] <Kilos> if you must become root you can sudo -i but not wise if sudo works
[08:09] <cal_py> problem is that startx wont work at my normal user level it only works as root
[08:09] <Kilos> ok try sudo -i
[08:09] <Kilos> then you are root
[08:09] <dlPhreak> He doesn't want to run it as root.
[08:10] <Kilos> cant he then go change permissions so user can startx as well
[08:12] <cal_py> how do you do that?
[08:12] <theblazehen> cal_py: I've dealt with that before
[08:12] <theblazehen> Can you post your ~/.xinitrc ?
[08:12] <cal_py> how do i slay this dragon theblazehen ?
[08:13] <theblazehen> I remember it was quite simple. Post your xinitrc let me see. Do you have wgetpaste? Then you can just wgetpaste ~/.xinitrc
[08:14] <theblazehen> Oh, and also rm ~/.Xauthority then try again as a normal user
[08:15] <cal_py> thats the error it says it can lock .Xauthority
[08:15] <cal_py> *acnt
[08:15] <cal_py> *cant
[08:16] <theblazehen> After you ran rm on it? Okay
[08:16] <theblazehen> What's your xinitrc?
[08:16] <theblazehen> That was one of my problems before I think
[08:18] <cal_py> is wgetpaste a program?
[08:18] <theblazehen> Yeah. Might be in repos
[08:19] <theblazehen> cal_py: https://www.question-defense.com/2009/10/22/wgetpaste-upload-directly-to-pastebin-from-the-linux-shell
[08:23] <cal_py> wifi died
[08:23] <cal_py> keeps doing that
[08:29] <theblazehen> cal_py: Keeps failing? I need to see your ~/.xinitrc so I can see if the problem is there
[08:30] <cal_py> ive downloaded and extracted wgetpaste
[08:30] <cal_py> but cant seem to figure out how to use it
[08:31] <theblazehen> cal_py: Ok `cat ~/.xinitrc | curl -F 'clbin=<-' https://clbin.com` should work
[08:33] <cal_py> .xinitrc: No such file
[08:38] <dlPhreak> Do you have a .xinitrc in your /root?
[08:38] <cal_py> lemme check
[08:39] <cal_py>     /root is empty
[08:40] <dlPhreak> I think ubuntu ignores the .xinitrc.
[08:41] <cal_py> maybe its because i chaged my password after install
[08:42] <dlPhreak> What password?
[08:42] <cal_py> user password
[08:42] <theblazehen> cal_py: cp /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ~/.xinitrc
[08:42] <theblazehen> then edit it to launch the desktop you want
[08:43] <theblazehen> The filename in /etc/X11 might be a bit different on Ubuntu
[08:43] <cal_py> as root?
[08:44] <theblazehen> no, normal user
[08:44] <cal_py> ok i have copied xinitrc, so what do i put in the file to start i3?
[08:44] <theblazehen> does it mention starting anything else at the bottom? Remove that
[08:45] <theblazehen> then at the end add `exec i3`
[08:45] <theblazehen> cal_py: Just mention my name when you reply, so I get a notification
[08:46] <cal_py> ok theblazehen, must i reboot now?
[08:46] <theblazehen> cal_py: Nah, just run startx again
[08:46] <cal_py> ok it just hangs
[08:46] <cal_py> theblazehen, sorry keep forgetting to link your name
[08:47] <theblazehen> Ok, meaning black screen, or does it show the lines showing that Xorg is starting?
[08:47] <cal_py> theblazehen, after a while i get the unable to lock .Xauthority
[08:47] <theblazehen> Ok
[08:47] <cal_py> nope in terminal theblazehen 
[08:47] <theblazehen> Ok
[08:48] <cal_py> theblazehen, now it's in a blank screen look slike its trying to start
[08:48] <theblazehen> cal_py: Ok. If it doesn't start can you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log with the command above?
[08:51] <cal_py> one sec theblazehen 
[08:55] <cal_py> theblazehen, pastebin.com/8677NrS1
[08:58] <theblazehen> cal_py: Maybe try and add your user to the video and input groups? Didn't see anything strange in the logs. Or you can test a .xinitrc with only `exec i3` in it, and if that doesn't work `exec xterm` or whatever you have installed
[09:00] <cal_py> how do i add user to those groups? theblazehen 
[09:01] <theblazehen> cal_py: sudo usermod -a -G video $USER
[09:01] <theblazehen> and same for inpu
[09:01] <theblazehen> t
[09:01] <cal_py> $USER being my username?
[09:03] <cal_py> there seems to be no input group
[09:03] <theblazehen> yes. Or you can leave it as $USER, that's an env var that has your username
[09:03] <theblazehen> Ok, and you're added to video?
[09:03] <theblazehen> Give it a go again
[09:03] <cal_py> yep
[09:03] <theblazehen> alright
[09:04] <cal_py> still the same thing theblazehen 
[09:04] <theblazehen> cal_py: And with only exec i3 in your ,xinitrc?
[09:05] <cal_py> yep
[09:05] <Kilos> ai!
[09:06] <theblazehen> Hmm. And you can't use a really simple display manager such as slim? It's what I use, should work for you. no KMS on nvidia :(
[09:09] <cal_py> I think i found the issue theblazehen 
[09:09] <theblazehen> cal_py: What was it?
[09:12] <cal_py> just rebooting to confirm
[09:15] <cal_py> ahhhh youre ganna wanna kill me theblazehen it was ecryptfs-mount-private
[09:15] <theblazehen> Ahh.. haha. It's all cool cal_py
[09:16] <cal_py> so do i have to run that every time i boot?
[09:16] <theblazehen> cal_py: which? ecryptfs-mount-private ?
[09:17] <cal_py> yeah
[09:20] <theblazehen> You could eg do in xinitrc `encryptfs-mount-private; exec i3`
[09:27] <cal_py> it needs a password everytime theblazehen 
[09:28] <theblazehen> cal_py: For when you start it? So then you need to do it before startx or what?
[09:28] <theblazehen> Does normal ubuntu do that transaprently?
[09:29] <theblazehen> maybe check https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ECryptfs#Auto-mounting
[09:29] <cal_py> i have todo it before i startx but it needs a password
[09:35] <theblazehen> cal_py: check https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ECryptfs#Auto-mounting maybe?
[09:37] <cal_py> trying it now theblazehen 
[09:39] <cal_py> theblazehen, i dont have system-auth in pam.d
[09:44] <theblazehen> cal_py: Hmm, alright. Have a look in the files in /etc/X11/xinit. See if they mention anything, then you can just merge that into your .xinitrc
[09:47] <cal_py> theblazehen, theres two files xinitrc and xserverrc
[09:48] <cal_py> i'm not sure what i looking for
[09:48] <cal_py> *I'm
[09:48] <theblazehen> in xinitrc, any mention of anything related to ecryptfs?
[09:53] <cal_py> nope just startx stuff
[09:54] <theblazehen> Okay. And with normal ubuntu login you don't need to do that/
[09:54] <theblazehen> ? *
[09:55] <theblazehen> Other option is having a look at another way to automate the mounting of ecryptfs
[09:55] <theblazehen> maybe echo password | ecryptfs-mount-private or something
[09:57] <cal_py> and the put that in xinitrc?
[09:59] <cal_py> theblazehen, inappropriate ioctl for device
[10:01] <cal_py> theblazehen, found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/411702/ubuntu-12-04-keyring-broken-signature-not-found-in-user-keyring-perhaps-try-the
[10:02] <dlPhreak> Just install arch..
[10:04] <theblazehen> dlPhreak: Easiest solution :) cal_py yeah, you can try it inxinitrc
[10:04] <cal_py> fixed :)
[10:04] <cal_py> what distro do you use theblazehen 
[10:05] <thatgraemeguy> http://i.imgur.com/DO6T3m7.png anyone know what that is trying to tell me?
[10:05] <thatgraemeguy> no tooltip on mouseover
[10:05] <theblazehen> cal_py: Arch. Easiest one for me, as I know how all the components fit together etc, so I find it easier to see what to fix if things break. Also, rolling release, and has very up to date packages
[10:06] <theblazehen> thatgraemeguy: Laptop? Is your touchpad turned off maybe?
[10:06] <dlPhreak> I installed manjaro netinstall the other day.
[10:06] <cal_py> yeah i;ve heard that, I tried insalling it but us quite hectic for a noob
[10:06] <thatgraemeguy> theblazehen: laptop yes, I just used the touchpad to test, works
[10:12] <magespawn> good day all
[10:12] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, theblazehen on freenode told me "tell magespawn I think /usr/local is recommended. And then /opt is used by what I can best describe as "application bundles", say proprietary software that doesn't fit neatly into the normal fhs. I have "firefox-developer  MYGUI  OGRE  phpstorm  teamviewer  unigine-valley" for example" 7 hours, 11 minutes and
[10:12] <Maaz> 24 seconds ago
[10:13] <cal_py> wifi wont work now :(
[10:13] <magespawn> thanks theblazehen 
[10:16] <theblazehen> cal_py: that sucks..
[10:16] <cal_py> what do you thin netctl?
[10:17] <cal_py> does it re-write /etc/network/interfaces
[10:19] <theblazehen> Nah, iirc /etc/network/ is managed by network manager. netctl is its own thing
[10:19] <cal_py> hmmmmm,
[13:09] <qwebirc23332> Hi
[13:11] <Iqbal> Need some help with setting up my wireless network connection
[13:12] <Iqbal> Please
[13:16] <Iqbal> Anybody out there?
[13:19] <cal_py> hey Iqbal what seems to be the fault?
[14:10] <magespawn> chat later, see you all at the meeting
[14:53] <Kilos> ai! major telkom server crash. got some voda airtime so i can make tonights meeting
[14:53] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:12] <Kilos> inetpro you gonna find karl for us
[15:12] <Kilos> ??
[15:33] <dlPhreak> Is it a public meeting?
[15:33] <Kilos> yes
[15:33] <Kilos> everyone welcome
[15:34] <Kilos> did you get the mail in the list dlPhreak ?
[15:34] <dlPhreak> I might make it. I have band practice 6-8 so as long as we don't get wasted I will come.
[15:34] <dlPhreak> Lol I still haven't joined the mailling list..
[15:34] <dlPhreak> ^__^
[15:34] <Kilos> WHYYYYY
[15:34] <dlPhreak> Not that I read my email anyway.
[15:34] <dlPhreak> I only read my work email these days.
[15:35] <dlPhreak> Lemme just do it right now.
[15:35] <Kilos> go to the site and join us on launchpad
[15:36] <Kilos> and dont get wasted tonight
[15:36] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[15:36] <Kilos> i dont know how to get hold of karl so he doesnt forget tonights meeting
[15:37] <Kilos> dlPhreak you just as naughty as you were when you were dlimit
[15:38] <dlPhreak> I prefer the word devious.. XD
[15:38] <Kilos> naughty
[15:38] <Kilos> skelm
[15:38] <Kilos> slack
[15:38] <Kilos> sleg
[15:38] <dlPhreak> Hahaha yeah that's me
[15:38] <Kilos> lol
[15:39] <Kilos> you used to be in port shepstone area? or have i got you mixed up with someone else
[15:40] <dlPhreak> Yes, Margate.
[15:40] <dlPhreak> My buddy cal is in south port on the other side of port sheptstone.
[15:42] <Kilos> ah i know that area in memory a bit
[15:42] <Kilos> i built all those prefab exchange buidings down the coast many years ago
[15:42] <Kilos> Cryterion meeting tonight hey
[15:43] <dlPhreak> Gotta go chat laterz 
[15:43] <Cryterion> yes, read your mail, I'll be around here
[15:43] <Kilos> lol ty
[15:50] <superfly> Hi
[16:49] <Kilos> i hope inetpro hasnt got telkom probs as well also too
[16:52] <Kilos> hi cal_py glad you could make it
[16:53] <Kilos> 1 1/2 hours to go
[16:53] <cal_py> for sure Kilos
[16:53] <Kilos> is your i3 fixed
[16:53] <cal_py> 85% hahaha
[16:53] <Kilos> i looked at that but not my cup of tea
[16:54] <Kilos> i like something that just works like kubuntu
[16:54] <cal_py> I like the fact that you use all of your screen real estate, to me that a cool concept
[16:55] <Kilos> i just add workspaces, 10 gives me more than enough to do everything
[16:56] <cal_py> haha I would hope so!
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat, keep an eye open for kmf please, im hoping he gets here before the meeting starts
[17:05] <qwebirc2207> Hi
[17:05] <Kilos> hi qwebirc2207 
[17:05] <Kilos> ah hi Iqbal 
[17:06] <Kilos> im just eating then ill be back
[17:06] <Iqbal> Thanks for your help last week. I was out of town
[17:06] <Kilos> but hang around for our meeting at 20.30 too
[17:06] <Kilos> thats why we are here
[17:08] <Iqbal> My laptop miraculously started up with my Ubuntu 12 cd
[17:10] <Iqbal> I reinstalled 12, now just need to install the drivers for the wireless connection
[17:17] <Kilos> iq
[17:17] <Kilos> ai!
[17:51] <superfly> hi kmf
[17:51] <superfly> Kilos: here's kmf
[17:52] <Kilos> yay ty superfly 
[17:52] <Kilos> kmf wb i was fretting
[17:52] <kmf> @Kilos @superfly relax :)
[17:52] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:52] <Kilos> ty
[17:52]  * superfly is always relaxed
[17:52] <superfly> kmf: this is not Twitter
[17:53] <Kilos> ya leave the @ out
[17:53] <kmf> Kilos, superfly jammer ... force of habit
[17:53] <Kilos> kmf i wanted to ask you a few things about the project
[17:53] <kmf> yes go for it
[17:54] <Kilos> there is some interest in the list as well, hope wwk can make it tonight
[17:54] <Kilos> first where are you going to do the work on the pcs
[17:55] <Kilos> if we can get you some helpers we will need to know that
[17:55] <kmf> excellent question ... my wife was asking the same thing
[17:55] <Kilos> lol
[17:55] <Kilos> second question
[17:55] <kmf> ask all and I will respond when you are done
[17:55] <Kilos> where can you get pcs from to rebuild
[17:56] <Kilos> no man my brain works one thing at a time
[18:00] <inetpro> good  mornings
[18:00] <Kilos> ohi inetpro wb
[18:00] <superfly> morning inetpro
[18:01] <Kilos> thought the telkom server crash had got you as well
[18:01] <kmf> since it's community project the loco member can format and install a donated machine
[18:01] <inetpro> Kilos: no it's just an ordinary crash of the system at the end of another busy day
[18:02] <Kilos> they still havent got it fixed, since 11.30 this morning
[18:02] <kmf> Kilos, I can't be the single point of failure :) ... it's a distributed project for max impact
[18:03] <inetpro> Kilos: I mean my own system is just tired
[18:03] <Kilos> i have bento running on desktop in front of me with hexchat trying to connect
[18:04] <Kilos> inetpro get some 33% food grade peroxide
[18:04] <inetpro> kmf: where do we get old systems to refurbish?
[18:04] <kmf> as for the second question, Kilos, my mother is running a donation bank ... so she gets quite a few computers in 
[18:04] <Kilos> 3 drops in a glass of water 3 times a day helps your system lekker
[18:04] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm good thanks
[18:04] <Kilos> haha
[18:05] <kmf> Kilos ... keeping you regular :)
[18:05] <Kilos> nono it helps for feeling tired and gets your system working properly
[18:05] <Kilos> the important things, not the poop tube
[18:05] <inetpro> any normal person needs a rest at the end of a working day
[18:06] <kmf> Kilos ... ah the "System" firing on all cylinders 
[18:06] <Kilos> yip
[18:06] <Kilos> hi fusionsparc 
[18:06] <Kilos> well kmf well try get you some helpers and then worry bout where to do it
[18:07] <fusionsparc> Hi Kilos...how are you?
[18:07] <Kilos> and then we push for the logo thing
[18:07] <inetpro> Kilos: don't stop asking the questions now
[18:07] <Kilos> good tyand you
[18:07] <Kilos> lol
[18:07] <kmf> Kilos need to disconnect and switch connections .... see you at 20:30
[18:07] <inetpro> can't get this 3letter dude get away so easily
[18:08] <fusionsparc> good...:)...the week is one day  shorter..
[18:08] <Kilos> ok kmf
[18:08] <Kilos> lol
[18:08] <Kilos> he has got me excited about this inetpro 
[18:08] <Kilos> but i think we need to make the
[18:08] <Kilos> um
[18:09] <Kilos> um
[18:09] <Kilos> condition
[18:09] <Kilos> that he spends more time here
[18:10] <Kilos> Maaz google health benefits of taking food grade peroxide
[18:10] <Maaz> Kilos: "Food Grade Peroxide Cures - Earth Clinic" http://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/food-grade-hydrogen-peroxide-cures.html :: "Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide's Health Benefits - Livestrong.com" http://www.livestrong.com/article/491009-food-grade-hydrogen-peroxides-health-benefits/ :: "Food-Grade Hydrogen Peroxide Health Benefits - YouTube"
[18:10] <Maaz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXWXhp6aFuw :: "Hydrogen Peroxide natural traditional remedies - Grow Youthful" h…
[18:10] <Kilos> inetpro lees die goed
[18:11] <Kilos> you can ask ian how it has helped him
[18:11] <Kilos> you are too young to always be tired
[18:13] <Cryterion> Hi, meeting at 20:30?
[18:13] <Kilos> yip
[18:13] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm not that tired, seriously
[18:13] <Kilos> read the links
[18:13] <inetpro> just an excuse 
[18:13] <Kilos> it helps for more than just tired
[18:14] <Kilos> i need you guys to live a long time still
[18:14] <Kilos> you have to hold the fort while im in aus
[18:14] <cal_py> how long you going for?
[18:14] <Kilos> 9 hour time zone diffs is heavy
[18:14] <Cryterion> you going down under Kilos
[18:14] <Kilos> 3 months hopefully
[18:15] <Cryterion> nice
[18:15] <inetpro> only 3 months?
[18:15] <cal_py> awesome
[18:15]  * inetpro thought it would be 3 years at least
[18:15] <Kilos> well thats how long they grant visas for
[18:15] <inetpro> eish!
[18:16] <Kilos> with luck it can be 20 years
[18:16] <Kilos> why you think im into health things
[18:16] <Cryterion> hmm, and here in africa you get 1month
[18:16] <Cryterion> max
[18:16] <Cryterion> per year
[18:16] <Kilos> ai!
[18:16] <inetpro> wow
[18:17] <Kilos> well costs to get there are much more
[18:17] <inetpro> Cryterion: where's that?
[18:17] <Cryterion> well business visa anyway
[18:17] <Cryterion> Zambia
[18:17] <Cryterion> 30days per year
[18:17] <inetpro> interesting
[18:17] <Kilos> what can a business accomplish in 1 month
[18:17] <Kilos> look for a workaround
[18:18] <Cryterion> don't try 20 in september then 20 following year in feb say, doesn't work
[18:18] <Cryterion> contractors
[18:18] <Kilos> eish
[18:18] <Kilos> im just gonna go rest
[18:18] <Kilos> and get to know my daughter
[18:19] <Kilos> and her mom of course
[18:19] <Kilos> oh ill be late tomorrow
[18:19] <Kilos> going hospital at 6 am
[18:19] <cal_py> you ok?
[18:20] <Kilos> ya just need prostate meds
[18:20] <cal_py> ahh ok
[18:20] <Kilos> but its a long thing in state hospitals
[18:21] <Kilos> inetpro think of some questions for the 3 letter man
[18:22] <Kilos> and explain this to me please
 Kilos, I can't be the single point of failure :) ... it's a distributed project for max impact
[18:22] <Kilos> we can maybe get approval and have subs in other areas
[18:23] <inetpro> Kilos: it's called cheap labor 
[18:23] <Kilos> all ubuntu peeps are cheap labourers
[18:24] <inetpro> oom Kilos and his buddies are the ones who will do the work for free
[18:24] <Kilos> the payment is in the knowlege that you have done some good for others
[18:24] <Kilos> wb kmf 
[18:25] <Kilos> chesedo you awake?
[18:25] <chesedo> hmm, don't know :P
[18:25] <Kilos> check you still got bot permisions
[18:25] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[18:25] <Langjan> Hi guys, Kilos 
[18:26] <Langjan> How's progress Kilos ?
[18:26] <Kilos> one week to wait for clearance
[18:26] <Kilos> then they send it to visa peeps here in pton
[18:26] <Kilos> hope they dont use snail mail
[18:27] <Langjan> good, sorry ar you having meeting?
[18:27] <Kilos> hoping to be gone in under 1 month
[18:27] <dlPhreak> I made it.
[18:27] <Langjan> Great news
[18:27] <Kilos> you have to attend the meeting starting in 3 mins
[18:27] <Kilos> well done dlPhreak 
[18:27] <chesedo> congrats dlPhreak :D
[18:28] <Langjan> I lost that link to say what to do
[18:28] <chesedo> Kilos: seems so
[18:28] <dlPhreak> Actually Im on my phone..
[18:28] <Kilos> just follow what i do Langjan 
[18:28] <Kilos> dlPhreak as long as you are here
[18:29] <cal_py> sup dlPhreak 
[18:29] <Kilos> and dont watch tv same time
[18:29] <chesedo> and now for the big countdown
[18:29] <dlPhreak> cal sup
[18:30] <chesedo> Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - February 2016
[18:30]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[18:30] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction 
[18:30] <chesedo> Hello all and thank you for joining in on our monthly meeting
[18:30] <Maaz> Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction
[18:30] <Kilos> Maaz I am Miles Sharpe
[18:30] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[18:30] <chesedo> Please introduce yourselves to Maaz who will keep the minutes using `Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>` eg. 
[18:30] <chesedo> Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht
[18:30] <Maaz> chesedo: Okay
[18:30] <kmf> Maaz I am Karl Fischer
[18:30] <Maaz> kmf: Okay
[18:30] <chesedo> the agenda for today's meeting can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20160223 
[18:30] <chesedo> last minute changes are still welcome if anyone has any
[18:30] <Langjan> Maaz, I am Jan Greeff
[18:30] <Maaz> Langjan: Righto
[18:31] <inetpro> Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer
[18:31] <Maaz> inetpro: Yessir
[18:31] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:31] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting
[18:31] <Kilos> dlPhreak cal_py sign in please
[18:31] <chesedo> the last meeting's minutes is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20160126 
[18:31] <chesedo> please highlight anything that you might have from it
[18:31] <dlPhreak> Maaz I am Werner D Pienaar
[18:31] <Maaz> dlPhreak: Alrighty
[18:32] <cal_py> Maaz I am Callum
[18:32] <Maaz> cal_py: Done
[18:32] <Kilos> hi Sxuza you made it
[18:32] <Kilos> sign in please
[18:33] <Kilos> and fusionsparc superfly etc etc
[18:33] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman
[18:33] <Maaz> superfly: Righto
[18:33] <Kilos> ai! ghese peeps and multitasking
[18:33] <Kilos> these
[18:33] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Plans for 2016
[18:33] <Maaz> Current Topic: Plans for 2016
[18:34] <chesedo> short as always unless we have someone excited to sign the COC or to become a member :D...
[18:34]  * chesedo is also not spotting any new users
[18:34] <Kilos> we  can add the project in here as well chesedo 
[18:35] <chesedo> Kilos: it is currently under plans...
[18:35] <Kilos> it will take 2016 to get going properly
[18:35] <Kilos> yes i didnt hink when adding it
[18:35] <Kilos> think
[18:35] <Kilos> sorry
[18:35] <williamk> Hi all
[18:36] <Kilos> needed more peroxide
[18:36] <Kilos> hi williamk welcome
[18:36] <chesedo> ok seems reasonable, but we will discuss today... so will move it up in future
[18:36] <chesedo> moving on?
[18:36] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Events
[18:36] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events
[18:37] <chesedo> no  known events happened last month? 
[18:37] <chesedo> This will propably also be the last month for discussing if anyone will be hosting a release party for 16.04...
[18:37] <chesedo> also anyone looking to host an ubuntu hour etc. ?
[18:37] <Kilos> not really
[18:37] <Kilos> cds arrive quite a while after release date
[18:37] <cal_py> chesedo, yeah, but my bedroom dont count! 
[18:38] <inetpro> chesedo: maybe kmf's project will give us more reason to get together more often
[18:38] <Kilos> yip
[18:38] <chesedo> yip
[18:38] <kmf> :)
[18:38] <chesedo> ok seems like we are moving over to kmf
[18:38] <Kilos> lol
[18:38] <chesedo> *'s project
[18:38] <Kilos> we all excited
[18:39] <cal_py> can we talk about the project briefly? 
[18:39] <Kilos> cal_py read the agenda
[18:39] <chesedo> cal_py: yes
[18:39] <Kilos> there is a short story there
[18:39] <chesedo> and that ^^
[18:40] <williamk> I have suggested a 16.04 release party on dbnlug
[18:40] <Kilos> go for it williamk 
[18:40] <chesedo> williamk: and the response?
[18:40] <williamk> no one yet
[18:41] <inetpro> chesedo: have you changed topic yet?
[18:41] <chesedo> lol same here except for superfly that might have one
[18:41] <kmf> well did everyone read the brief?
[18:41] <superfly> sorry, what?
[18:42] <chesedo> inetpro: we are on events... want one specific for kmf?
[18:42] <inetpro> ah
[18:42] <Kilos> release party superfly 
[18:42] <superfly> oh
[18:42] <superfly> I could host one. Dunno if anyone would come though.
[18:42] <chesedo> superfly: you mentioned that you might have a release party in last meeting (if mem correct)
[18:43] <Kilos> superfly just refresh us when is your debconf
[18:44] <superfly> July
[18:44] <chesedo> is everyone up-to-date about the Ubuntu for Hope project? and have any questions?
[18:44] <inetpro> kmf: did you plan to launch your project as part of a release party, how how did you plan to start?
[18:44] <Kilos> you gonna be busy in june arent you
[18:44]  * superfly doesn't seem to be getting everyone's e-mails of late
[18:44] <inetpro> or how*
[18:44] <kmf> inetpro: yes ... want to "ship" the Computers with a LTS
[18:44] <fusionsparc> not realy, lemme read the brief quicks.. :)
[18:45] <chesedo> Ubuntu for Hope - http://bin.snyman.info/mmmzy8ce
[18:45] <qwebirc91453>      hi all
[18:45] <fusionsparc> tnx chesedo 
[18:45] <Kilos> iqbal  is that you?
[18:45] <kmf> kudos to superfly ... he wrote it :) my mangled words 
[18:45] <chesedo> hi qwebirc91453
[18:46] <Kilos> haha the fly is my editor as well
[18:46] <chesedo> kmf: is the plan to the first ones out before/after 16.04?
[18:46] <Kilos> qwebirc91453 welcome to our meeting please join in
[18:46] <chesedo> *to have the
[18:46] <kmf> chesedo after
[18:46] <qwebirc91453> let me change chats will be back
[18:47] <Kilos> kmf are you planning on more than one flavour
[18:47] <Kilos> ohi kapanda 
[18:47] <Kilos> i would like to see more kde peeps here
[18:47] <inetpro> I know kmf as a brave man who doesn't give up easily, so what tough questions can we ask him to give him all the reasons why this can't work?
[18:47] <kapanda> Ok Hi guys
[18:47] <kmf> Kilos hardware willing ..... I would like to go for Ubuntu and Ubuntu Mate
[18:47] <williamk> hi kapanda
[18:47] <Cryterion> Maaz: I am Gavin Bauer
[18:47] <Maaz> Cryterion: Alrighty
[18:48] <chesedo> ok, since since they are refurbished (possible low end) and for students guess will also eduUbuntu or on of the light flavours?
[18:48] <Cryterion> here, sorry late :(
[18:48] <kmf> inetpro are you asking?
[18:48] <theblazehen> Hi, late sorry
[18:48] <Kilos> kmf what kind of specs are we looking at
[18:48] <inetpro> kmf: am asking the others yes
[18:48] <Kilos> sign in please theblazehen kapanda 
[18:49] <theblazehen> Maaz: I am Jeandre Le Roux
[18:49] <Maaz> theblazehen: Yessir
[18:49]  * inetpro hoping he will take on the challenge to prove to us otherwise
[18:49] <Kilos> type in maaz I am Name
[18:49] <kmf> Kilos 32bit / 64 bit 1 to 2 gigs of ram - Ubuntu Mate's Minimum specs 
[18:49] <Kilos> kmf dont listen to the pro we will make it work
[18:50] <chesedo> inetpro -1
[18:50] <chesedo> :P
[18:50] <inetpro> ai! :-)
[18:50] <kapanda> how do i go about getting an Ubuntu membership
[18:50] <Cryterion> What drive space will Mate require, about?
[18:51] <kmf> here is the Ubuntu Mate specs -> https://ubuntu-mate.org/about/
[18:51] <fusionsparc> maaz I am JG du Preez
[18:51] <Maaz> fusionsparc: Sure
[18:51] <Kilos> under 2g ram is min
[18:51] <chesedo> kapanda: the basic guide is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership, but the peeps here should be able to help with some finer stuff
[18:51] <Kilos> but mate is nice and light
[18:51] <kmf> but obviously you want to be at least LibreOffice to be usable :)
[18:52] <chesedo> and browsing
[18:52] <williamk> kmf : 16.04 comes with LO 5.1 at the moment
[18:53] <Kilos> williamk you and kmf must chat more about this
[18:53] <williamk> I have been using 16.04 for about 2.5 months
[18:53] <kmf> chesedo some might not have internet access :)
[18:53] <chesedo> kmf: that true too
[18:53] <Kilos> if we ask for ubuntu approval we must do it once for country wide projects
[18:54] <kmf> Kilos yep ... Ubuntu legal wants to know if the Loco will or is supporting me :)
[18:54] <Cryterion> hmm, just checked, Ubuntu Mate is offered with the Raspberry PI, gonna be playing with it soon
[18:54] <Kilos> yes of course we are
[18:55] <Kilos> i only see hands up
[18:55] <williamk> kmf : I am supporting you
[18:55] <kapanda> what are we asking approval for from Ubuntu
[18:55]  * inetpro likes the idea, certainly hope that we can get it off the ground 
[18:55] <inetpro> +1 from me
[18:55] <Kilos> ill help with the approval where i can kmf 
[18:55] <kmf> I mean ... Canonical legal ... 
[18:55] <Kilos> +1
[18:55] <Kilos> i have been the route with them once before
[18:55] <kmf> kapanda to use the Ubuntu Trademark for the "Ubuntu for Hope" project
[18:56] <Kilos> takes a while 
[18:56] <fusionsparc> +1
[18:56] <Cryterion> +1
[18:56] <Kilos> superfly ??
[18:56] <Kilos> +1 time
[18:56] <kapanda> Ok sounds like a good plan. please send a link so I can read up
[18:56] <kmf> kapanda: http://bin.snyman.info/mmmzy8ce
[18:57] <superfly> +1
[18:57]  * Kilos thinks motion carried
[18:57] <chesedo> are all ok if we make the first goal "To be part of the Ubuntu for Hope project and make it a success"?
[18:57] <kmf> +1
[18:57] <Kilos> +1
[18:57] <_Sponge> ?
[18:57] <kapanda> Thanks 
[18:57] <Cryterion> +1
[18:58] <williamk> +1
[18:58]  * chesedo now just wants to turn it into something solid
[18:58] <_Sponge> Wat is it, exactamundoly ?
[18:58] <kmf> _Sponge: http://bin.snyman.info/mmmzy8ce
[18:58]  * inetpro learns a new word 
[18:58] <Kilos> haha ya
[18:59] <_Sponge> I got the paste-bin , but where's the website ?
[18:59] <kmf> _Sponge there is no website ...
[18:59] <kapanda> I would like to help, I have a similar project going. You have my support
[18:59] <_Sponge> there should be, but
[18:59] <kmf> I'm not doing the project without the support of the Loco
[19:00] <kmf> _Sponge can't use the word "Ubuntu" without permission from Canonical 
[19:00] <Kilos> imo we are all solidly behind you kmf 
[19:00] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed Year Goal - To be part of the Ubuntu for Hope project and to make it a success
[19:00] <Maaz> Agreed: Year Goal - To be part of the Ubuntu for Hope project and to make it a success
[19:00] <_Sponge> the use Lubuntu.
[19:01] <_Sponge> **then
[19:01] <williamk> I am behind you, i want to this in Durban
[19:01] <Kilos> _Sponge we will try get approval and then all different secyions run under kmf 's umbrella
[19:01] <Kilos> sections
[19:01] <Kilos> inetpro not so?
[19:01] <Cryterion> I'll help where I can in Durban aswell
[19:01] <_Sponge> that's not part of the eco-system, then.
[19:01] <kmf> Kilos ... I think I need to apply for Membership for street cred? 
[19:01] <Kilos> whats that
[19:01] <_Sponge> it should have a launchpad page, at least !
[19:02] <chesedo> kmf: so when would you like to see the first get together to get the systems ready?
[19:02] <inetpro> Kilos: do we get to sign a birth certificate for the new project?
[19:02] <chesedo> inetpro: lol
[19:02] <kmf> chesedo not sure :) ... maybe in the 1st week May ... after 16.04 drops 
[19:03] <Kilos> lol
[19:03] <kapanda> I can help in Jozi
[19:03] <kmf> superfly: see no "@"'s 
[19:03] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:03] <inetpro> well done kmf! :-)
[19:03] <Kilos> oh kmf 
[19:03] <Kilos> we have one condition
[19:04] <Kilos> you need to spend more time here
[19:04] <williamk> kmf : where about in the Tshwane area
[19:04] <kmf> williamk I stay in Pretoria East 
[19:04] <kmf> williamk ... Tshwane East ;)
[19:05] <Kilos> and if my visa only last 3 months you can drop off 10 or 20 pcs here and ill do the installs
[19:05] <kapanda> speaking about spreading. Lesson that William proposed I think we need to look at that too
[19:05] <chesedo> kapanda: i agree
[19:05] <chesedo> it complements this nicely
[19:06] <inetpro> kmf: sounds like a good deal, you even get cheap labor as part of the deal there ^^
[19:06] <Kilos> hehe
[19:06] <Cryterion> lol
[19:06] <kmf> inetpro ... and also grow the Loco :)
[19:06]  * chesedo going to move to next section for william's project
[19:06] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Miscellaneous
[19:06] <Maaz> Current Topic: Miscellaneous
[19:06] <williamk> kapanda :  you talking about Ubuntu Learning project : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning
[19:07] <kapanda> :-) yes
[19:08] <_Sponge> the ubuntu classsroom irc is never populated.
[19:08] <chesedo> williamk: the "Desktop Training" one?
[19:08] <kapanda> though people want certification for what they learn, we can plan an End user certification for SA
[19:08] <_Sponge> wats Sa ?
[19:08] <kapanda> South Africa
[19:08] <Kilos> ubuntu classroom is closing down
[19:08] <_Sponge> k
[19:09] <williamk> kmf : if you have a get together to get the systems ready, please make it on a weekend, I might drive up
[19:09] <_Sponge> Does the Loco group have any Ubuntu DVD's for 14.04, left over ?
[19:09] <Kilos> we have #linux-studies and can make a new channel if needed
[19:09] <kmf> williamk cool :D
[19:10] <_Sponge> Does the Loco group have a separate website like www.ubuntu-uk.org.uk ?
[19:10] <Kilos> _Sponge someone can download an iso for you
[19:10] <_Sponge> you didn't answer my question, but I'm thinking No.
[19:10] <inetpro> superfly: will you organise the DVD's for the new release again for us?
[19:10] <_Sponge> +1
[19:10] <Kilos> https://ubuntu-za.org
[19:10] <kmf> reminds me of the OpenICDL
[19:10] <inetpro> _Sponge: ^
[19:11] <superfly> inetpro: I've never organised them
[19:11] <Kilos> also http://ubuntu-africa.info
[19:11] <inetpro> superfly: so who does it for us?
[19:11] <superfly> inetpro: I'm the secondary contact. Maia is still #1
[19:11] <Kilos> maia said she would still do it i think inetpro 
[19:11] <inetpro> cool
[19:12] <Kilos> when is our re evaluation
[19:12] <Kilos> she will do that for /with us as well
[19:12] <williamk> kmf : OpenICDL is not the only certification that needs to be done
[19:13] <williamk> look at : http://www.ecdl.org/programmes/ecdl_icdl
[19:13] <_Sponge> you need to add "Ubuntu scocial" the the SocialMedia dropdown on ubuntu-za.org i.e. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Social
[19:13] <williamk> and http://www.ecdl.org/programmes/index.jsp?p=102&n=771
[19:14] <_Sponge> **social
[19:15] <chesedo> ecdl does not seem to be ubuntu specific?
[19:15] <chesedo> williamk ^^
[19:16] <kmf> chesedo it
[19:16] <williamk> chesedo there was icdl docs written, but in 2006 i think
[19:16] <kmf> chesedo it
[19:16] <Kilos> oh williamk there is a group in durbs doing refurbished pcs for other african countries
[19:16] <Kilos> do you have contact with them
[19:16] <kmf> chesedo: sorry ... coffee hasnt kicked in ... it's about teaching skills not an application 
[19:16] <williamk> kilos don't know who they are
[19:17] <Kilos> oh my
[19:17] <_Sponge> Isv anyone listening to my concerns, here ?
[19:17] <_Sponge> **Is
[19:17] <Kilos> _Sponge we will get there
[19:17] <_Sponge> Also ...
[19:17] <Kilos> we only hve 13 mins left 
[19:17] <_Sponge> Your not listed here : http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=388
[19:18] <chesedo> kmf and williamk: oh ok
[19:18] <Kilos> we had a forum but found irc more usefull
[19:18] <Kilos> and quicker
[19:18] <chesedo> a lot of locos seem to be missing there
[19:19] <_Sponge> that's not the point, you should be listed *Esp as some ppl can't afford VPN in S.Africa.
[19:19] <williamk> here is one of the modules : http://www.it.uom.gr/teaching/open/eng/Module2_Ubuntu5_10_eng.pdf
[19:19]  * chesedo just covering the other topics while we continue discussion
[19:20] <_Sponge> Look we only have 10 minutes left. Are we going to discuss your web-presence or not ?
[19:20] <chesedo> a list of possible Ubuntu-in-the-wild items can be found at https://trello.com/c/2hHvWUne if anyone wants to add to that later
[19:20] <Kilos> superfly inetpro ^^
[19:20] <chesedo> williamk: looking at it
[19:21] <williamk> look here for the rest of the modules : http://www.it.uom.gr/teaching/open/eng/
[19:21] <kmf> williamk ... localization is a big thing with Educational content ... and then keeping it up to date :)
[19:21]  * chesedo cannot believe 2006 was 10 years ago this year
[19:22] <dlPhreak> IKR chesedo 
[19:23] <_Sponge> repeat: Look we only have 8 minutes left. Are we going to discuss your web-presence or not ?
[19:23] <chesedo> _Sponge: the web presence?
[19:23] <_Sponge> I've mentioned 2 things.
[19:23] <williamk> kmf : that is why you only make docs for LTS
[19:23] <Kilos> _Sponge can you get here during the days
[19:23] <_Sponge> probably.
[19:23] <kmf> williamk ... yep :D
[19:23] <Kilos> except for tomorrow i am here everyday
[19:23] <chesedo> _Sponge: i am trying to find it on the agenda to know how to channel it
[19:24] <chesedo> I forgot to get in touch with lugs about the linuxfestza thingy
[19:24]  * chesedo will make a hard note of it
[19:24] <Kilos> _Sponge have you joined us on launchpad and our mailing list
[19:24] <_Sponge> just make the changes to ubuntuforums.org and "Ubuntu social" on the drop down menu of your Loco Website :)
[19:25] <williamk> chesedo what is the linuxfestza thingy
[19:25] <_Sponge> no, I'm just here for this meeting.
[19:25] <Kilos> ok
[19:25] <_Sponge> 5 minutes to-go
[19:25] <_Sponge> You need to action what I've said.
[19:25] <superfly> _Sponge: says who?
[19:25] <chesedo> williamk: some of the lugs mentioned that they would like to have one
[19:25] <superfly> _Sponge: why?
[19:26] <superfly> _Sponge: who are you to tell us what we "must" do?
[19:26] <dlPhreak> I concur with superfly.
[19:26] <chesedo> ... and i am suppose to get in touch with all to check it
[19:26] <kmf> _Sponge the forums look like a Ghost town ...
[19:26] <_Sponge> bye bye. you have nothing to give ubuntu.
[19:26] <superfly> Idiot
[19:26] <Kilos> who is he
[19:26] <dlPhreak> Troll.
[19:26] <Cryterion> probably
[19:27] <dlPhreak> I so badly wanted to flame..
[19:27] <kapanda> Lol this is fun
[19:27] <dlPhreak> superfly handled it well.
[19:27] <chesedo> superfly: gj
[19:27]  * Cryterion agrees
[19:27] <Kilos> somehwere i did a trace to see where an ip was from
[19:27] <dlPhreak> gg superfly 
[19:27] <superfly> I've had to deal with worse -_-
[19:27] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[19:27] <superfly> Kilos: the Isle of Man
[19:27] <inetpro> oh my
[19:27] <dlPhreak> Hmmm.
[19:28] <Kilos> he comes from there and tells us what to do?
[19:28] <chesedo> last item, training program and goal...
[19:28] <chesedo> with the Ubuntu for Hope being quite big...
[19:29] <chesedo> will we continue to find out more about it and review the training one in 2-3 months?
[19:29] <Kilos> i think it has got off to a good start
[19:29] <Kilos> kmf we are all with you
[19:29] <Cryterion> kilos: http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip-lookup
[19:29] <kmf> Kilos awesome!
[19:29] <Kilos> ty Cryterion 
[19:30] <Kilos> so you can tell them you have our full support
[19:30]  * chesedo guess we'll do that then
[19:30] <superfly> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2016-02-17
[19:30] <kapanda> So for the training program, what is the agreement? 
[19:31] <superfly> he did something similar in one of Xubuntu's meetings
[19:31] <Kilos> aha
[19:31] <superfly> "<_Sponge> Crumbs, 10 minutes in, and we've not changed anything, yet. "
[19:31] <chesedo> kapanda: nothing solid yet, it seems to be to much in the air with kmf and williamk the only ones in the know
[19:32] <chesedo> kapanda: but will carry on discussing it
[19:32] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting
[19:32] <Maaz> Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting
[19:32] <Kilos> williamk kmf try be here more and the guys will be more involved
[19:32] <Kilos> +1 for chesedo 
[19:33] <kmf> +1
[19:33] <inetpro> +1 for chesedo
[19:33] <Cryterion> +1
[19:33] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed chesedo to chair next meeting
[19:33] <Maaz> Agreed: chesedo to chair next meeting
[19:33] <Kilos> ty chesedo you getting good at this
[19:33] <chesedo> Maaz: topic Next meeting
[19:33] <Maaz> Current Topic: Next meeting
[19:33] <chesedo> ty Kilos
[19:34] <fusionsparc> +1
[19:34] <chesedo> it is on the 22nd right?
[19:34] <kapanda> +1
[19:34] <inetpro> looks right chesedo
[19:34] <chesedo> Maaz: agreed Next meeting is 22 March 2016 @ 20:30
[19:34] <Maaz> Agreed: Next meeting is 22 March 2016 @ 20:30
[19:35] <Kilos> yip
[19:35] <chesedo> thank you all for attending, hope to see again
[19:35] <inetpro> thanks for running another smooth meeting
[19:35] <chesedo> Maaz: end meeting
[19:35] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[19:35] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-02-23-18-30-04.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-02-23-18-30-04.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2016-02-23-18-30-04.html
[19:35] <Kilos> yes ty chesedo and ty all for joining in
[19:36] <Kilos> lekker meeting
[19:36] <Kilos> ty superfly for sorting the noisy one
[19:36] <fusionsparc> Agreed, was great to be part.. :)
[19:37] <Cryterion> +1 to superfly
[19:37] <Kilos> we need to get um
[19:37] <Kilos> the security guy
[19:37]  * Cryterion votes superfly
[19:37] <fusionsparc> lol
[19:37] <dlPhreak> Is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct still a thing?
[19:37] <Kilos> he is ours yes
[19:38] <Cryterion> dlPhreak yes is
[19:38] <Kilos> but we have a pro security guy thats here sometimes
[19:38] <dlPhreak> Ah see. That is why I never say anything because I keep starting flame wars..
[19:38] <dlPhreak> Not my fault tho.
[19:38] <superfly> ah yes, I can op :-)
[19:39] <Kilos> superfly can you kick/ban that twit for us
[19:39] <Kilos> ban better
[19:39] <Kilos> all  he did was waste time
[19:40] <Kilos> dlPhreak have you joined us yet?
[19:40] <superfly> Kilos: I don't think he deserves it
[19:41] <Kilos> ok
[19:41] <superfly> Kilos: I doubt he'll bother us again
[19:41] <dlPhreak> The mailling list? Yes I have.
[19:41] <Kilos> yay
[19:41] <dlPhreak> Not that I will read the mail I have 800 unread emails. I just mark all as read every few months.
[19:42] <Kilos> i will tell you when you need to read mine
[19:42] <Kilos> hehe
[19:42] <dlPhreak> Deal. I might just forward it to my work email.
[19:43] <Kilos> i only mail serious stuff
[19:43] <inetpro> Kilos: is your Telkom mbile down completely?
[19:43] <inetpro> mobile*
[19:43] <Kilos> kmf you have to do all that canonical stuff via mail hey
[19:44] <Kilos> yip inetpro 
[19:44] <inetpro> wow, why?
[19:44] <Kilos> lemme check desktop
[19:44] <Kilos> they had a server crash
[19:44] <inetpro> says who?
[19:44] <Kilos> and havent got all the areas back up again
[19:44] <kmf> Kilos yes
[19:44] <Kilos> i foned of course
[19:45] <Kilos> how do you prove you have our support kmf 
[19:46] <kmf> Kilos: meeting minutes
[19:46] <Kilos> they can mail fly or i and find us in #locoteams
[19:46] <Kilos> oh yes
[19:46] <Kilos> #ubuntu-locoteams
[19:48] <Kilos> yip inetpro still down
[19:50] <Kilos> maybe i need to shower and sleep
[19:51] <Kilos> night all.  sleep tight. see you tomorrow avy
[19:51] <kmf> Kilos: bye
[19:51] <fusionsparc> night...
[19:52] <williamk> Good night all, bye
[19:56] <inetpro> good night kil[tab]
[19:57] <kmf> off to bed :D night
[19:57] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:57] <inetpro> g'night kmf
[19:57] <kmf> inetpro: bye
[20:04] <fusionsparc> Night guys, catch you maby tomorrow..
[20:07] <chesedo> bye all o/
[20:40] <qwebirc3264> Hi