[00:00] <AthenaPvP> xD
[00:00] <tesdtsdfasd> !makulu | pcwiz1
[00:00] <AthenaPvP> I already tried that tesdtsdfasd.
[00:00] <xangua> pcwiz1: http://makululinux.com/
[00:00] <tesdtsdfasd> I know.
[00:00] <tesdtsdfasd> But persistence is everything.
[00:00] <AthenaPvP> xD
[00:01] <tesdtsdfasd> I wish I could get my dam IRC client working.
[00:01] <AthenaPvP> hey xangua
[00:01] <tesdtsdfasd> Crashes after ~1 minute at the moment.
[00:01] <tesdtsdfasd> I don't even use ubuntu, I just needed a channel with a lot of users.
[00:01] <AthenaPvP> That explains your name.
[00:01] <tesdtsdfasd> Aye.
[00:01] <tesdtsdfasd> It's essentially slack, but for IRC.
[00:01] <tesdtsdfasd> Want to put some auto nickserv stuff in there as well.
[00:02] <AthenaPvP> So anyone know what's going on with my Youtube problem?
[00:02] <tesdtsdfasd> Too much youtube.
[00:02] <tesdtsdfasd> Always the case.
[00:02] <AthenaPvP> xD more like I can't watch youtube.
[00:02] <AthenaPvP> Audio is semless, but the video buffers and eventually desynchs.
[00:02] <AthenaPvP> seamless*
[00:03] <k1l_> AthenaPvP: tried chromium to check?
[00:04] <AthenaPvP> k1l_: I would much rather use IE than Chrome.. But I'll give it a check.
[00:05] <skinux> Seems to be having issue finding right package. I need PDO driver for PHP, installed php5-mysql but that didn't solve the issue.
[00:05] <k1l_> AthenaPvP: chromium
[00:05] <k1l_> AthenaPvP: that is the code of chrome, before google adds all the goole specifics.
[00:06] <AthenaPvP> k1l_: do they still support Java?
[00:06] <k1l_> AthenaPvP: yes. why shouldnt they?
[00:06] <AthenaPvP> k1l_: because Chrome doesn't.
[00:06] <k1l_> AthenaPvP: what?
[00:07] <AthenaPvP> k1l_: https://java.com/en/download/faq/chrome.xml
[00:08] <AthenaPvP> also, k1l_ , I downloaded chromium and I have NO IDEA what I'm doing.. There's no install file to click,
[00:08] <Multbrelch> Is there a way (tool, program, etc.) that changes the colors of the screen?
[00:09] <AthenaPvP> Multbrelch: under customization./
[00:09] <AthenaPvP> Spelling OP.
[00:10] <Multbrelch> ?, AthenaPvP
[00:10] <AthenaPvP> Multbrelch: sorry, I'm newer to Ubuntu as well. Let me look at it for a second.
[00:10] <k1l_> AthenaPvP: dont download from anywhere. just install the ubuntu package from the official ubuntu repoi
[00:10] <thunderdome> what is the best/easiest to use vnc server for ubuntu?
[00:10] <k1l_> AthenaPvP: install "chromium-browser" from the ubuntu repo
[00:12] <AthenaPvP> Multbrelch: settings > apperance.
[00:13] <Multbrelch> AthenaPvP, there you can adjust only the most important colors
[00:13] <AthenaPvP> Multbrelch: what are you asking to do, then?
[00:14] <Chaos_Zero> trying to use pbis to integrate to windows domain. When user adds printer it does not use their authentication from logging in, it just says that the print is held for authentication and they must re-enter their credentials.
[00:14] <AthenaPvP> k1l_: it's a firefox issue, then.
[00:15] <Chaos_Zero> Any way to have lpadmin automatically use the credentials they logged in with?
[00:15] <k1l_> AthenaPvP: try without the privacy badger thingy
[00:15] <Multbrelch> AthenaPvP, I do a DISPLAY redirection (via "setenv DISPLAY IPaddress") from an old SUN (Solaris 2.5) to an Ubuntu box (14.04) and get strange colors
[00:15] <cake_mom> rest
[00:15] <cake_mom> test
[00:15] <AthenaPvP> Multbrelch: aaand k1l_ take the floor!
[00:15] <Guest39586> vvvvv
[00:16] <Multbrelch> ?
[00:16] <Multbrelch> AthenaPvP, I tried xephyr and xnest but got only slightly improved results
[00:17] <Multbrelch> AthenaPvP, the point is that text in a window has some very dark grey color on a black background
[00:18] <Multbrelch> AthenaPvP, no I cannot modify the SUN cause this is by far too freaking
[00:20] <AthenaPvP> Multbrelch: sorry, but I have no idea.
[00:20]  * AthenaPvP is a nub.
[00:20] <Multbrelch> okay, thx a lot
[00:21] <linuxero40> hola drone
[00:22] <linuxero40> que tal ?
[00:22] <daedeloth> http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-proposed/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages
[00:22] <daedeloth> is this supposed to be down?
[00:22] <AthenaPvP> k1l_: works if I disable both badger and uBlock, but now there are ads. x.x
[00:23] <Lorde> Hi
[00:23] <AthenaPvP> daedeloth: not that I'm aware of... They were doing some updates earlier..
[00:23] <daedeloth> no apparently the version has reached end of life
[00:24] <k1l_> AthenaPvP: should work with ublock
[00:24] <k1l_> daedeloth: 14.10 is dead long time now
[00:24] <k1l_> daedeloth: you need to upgrade to 15.04 and then 15.10 asap
[00:24] <genii> 15.04 will also soon be EOL
[00:24] <daedeloth> yea old hotspot thingy I booted up
[00:25] <daedeloth> so, that's willy right?
[00:25] <k1l_> genii: 15.04 is dead already.
[00:25] <AthenaPvP> k1l_: nope. I'm pretty sure ublock is causing the lag.
[00:25] <k1l_> AthenaPvP: hmm
[00:25] <AthenaPvP> k1l_: or at least the FPS drop.
[00:25] <AthenaPvP> k1l_: how process-hungry is chromium?
[00:25] <genii> k1l_: Repos have not yet been moved to old-releases, so it's still viable right now
[00:25] <AthenaPvP> k1l_: remember I'm the one with the poor processor, so I might just switch to chromium.
[00:26] <k1l_> daedeloth: you are on utopic. but vivid (15.04) is EOL too. and you need to upgrade again to wily (15.10)
[00:26] <k1l_> genii: but they dont get any updates. like the last glibc updates etc.
[00:26] <daedeloth> k1l_, ok, thanks, I'm hopign dist-upgrade will do it
[00:26] <k1l_> daedeloth: no
[00:27]  * AthenaPvP goes down to click the text bar... clicks on GIMP on accident because the panel opens up. "goddamn it.."
[00:27] <daedeloth> it won't?
[00:27] <daedeloth> in that case I'm cancelling it... got 3 minutes till the downloads are done :p
[00:27] <k1l_> daedeloth: you need to do the !eolupgrade (changing repos to oldreleases) to 15.04. and then the regular upgrade to 15.10
[00:28] <k1l_> daedeloth: on ubuntu we dont change the names in sources.list manually and use apt-get for a upgrade. we have do-release-upgrade for cli
[00:28] <AthenaPvP> k1l_: how process-hungry is chromium?
[00:28] <k1l_> AthenaPvP: not more than firefox
[00:28] <AthenaPvP> cpu-hungry*
[00:28] <AthenaPvP> Eh, good enough.
[00:29] <AthenaPvP> How do I switch my default browser?
[00:29] <AthenaPvP> Nevermind.
[00:29] <AthenaPvP> Took me 2 seconds. xD
[00:29] <AthenaPvP> brb
[00:29] <daedeloth> k1l_, that's upgrading me to vivd?
[00:29] <daedeloth> ah, that's still online, alright :)
[00:29] <k1l_> !eolupgrade | daedeloth
[00:30] <k1l_> daedeloth: you waited way to long. and now things are complicated.
[00:30] <derp_commander> I've actually heard people say that chromium eats more memory than the latest editions of FFx
[00:30] <k1l_> daedeloth: for the future: stay on LTS if you dont want to upgrade every 6 months.
[00:30] <AthenaPvP> I'm back.
[00:32] <AthenaPvP> Any recommendations on a youtube desktop app? I'm looking at the software center and it seems that none of them are updated properly.
[00:35] <AthenaPvP> Nevermind, seem to have found one.
[00:39] <dillon_> senpai how can I make tixati my default magnet program?
[00:41] <squinty> dillon_,  right click on magnet link -> open with -> look in /usr/bin for the program name and select it.  click the "use as default"
[00:42] <dillon_> thanx squinty
[00:44] <Kevin`> is it possible to install to lvm with the ubuntu desktop iso?
[00:44] <dillon_> thanks squinty it worked like a charm
[00:44] <reisio> Kevin`: pretty sure, yeah
[00:44] <reisio> automated, that is
[00:44] <reisio> it's obviously possible manually
[00:45] <squinty> dillon_, good to hear  :-)
[00:45] <Kevin`> reisio: obviously.. but the options for auto are greyed out and the manual options are missing
[00:46] <markwalt> I'm running Xubuntu, but thinking about switching over to Ubuntu GNOME.  Anyone have any recommendations / observations regarding GNOME 3?
[00:46] <dillon_> is there anyway to set tixati so that when I close it, it will minimize it to the tray like transmission/qbtorrent and the other ones?
[00:46] <Kevin`> actually, it looks like the installer will pick up volumes if I create them before running the installer. that's fine with me and i'll test it now
[00:50] <skomorokh> Is systemd going to be required in 16.04?
[00:50] <Kevin`> i've had a 66% failure rate with systemd so far
[00:51] <skomorokh> It worked for me in 15.04 but had some weird timing issue loading X for 15.10 and I noticed I could easily switch to upstart so I did that rather than invest time debugging it.
[00:51] <k1l_> skomorokh: i am not sure if there will be a upstart session still
[00:52] <skomorokh> k1l_: Are you sure that no decision has been made though?
[00:52] <k1l_> skomorokh: you can look up what the issue is. use systemd-analyze blame
[00:52] <k1l_> skomorokh: "just using upstart" is not a solution.
[00:53] <skomorokh> k1l_: I know, I'm being unhelpful by putting this off rather than figuring out what hit me and filling bug reports if that seems appropriate.
[00:53] <Kevin`> one of my failures with systemd either reconfigured the serial port or hanged the system completely (can't tell, no jtag). no way to debug that aside from adding print statements to the non-existant early init scripts :/
[00:53] <skomorokh> k1l_: But in the meantime, I'm curious to learn if I have an upcoming deadline for that I should be worried about :)
[00:54] <k1l_> there is an upcomming deadline. i am not sure if 16.04 will still support upstart
[00:54] <k1l_> because that would mean ubuntu needs to maintain upstart for 5 more years.
[00:55] <Kevin`> could always use sysvinit, that'll be around for 5 more years =p
[00:56] <skomorokh> k1l_: excellent point re: lts
[01:09] <ReapsZ> yo
[01:11] <reisio> yoyo
[01:13] <elisa87> so I wrote "df -H" and it tells me I have used my free space 100% which is 4GB but my MicroSD card is 16GB. You know what's the reason ? (I am using Raspbian which is a distribution of Ubuntu)
[01:14] <k1l_> elisa87: please ask in #raspbian
[01:16] <reisio> elisa87: don't cross post, already answered you in #linux
[01:26] <cat__> Hey whats up guys
[01:26] <cat__> hey I heard ubuntu was spyware?
[01:26] <cat__> is this true?
[01:26] <Noodlefish> yes
[01:26] <Noodlefish> kidding
[01:27] <nedstark> cat__: change to slackware, no hackers are skilled enough to use it, much less hack it
[01:28] <reisio> cat__: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2840401/ubuntus-unity-8-desktop-removes-the-amazon-search-spyware.html
[01:29] <k1l_> cat__: that is FUD.
[01:30] <reisio> it wasn't the best use of the word 'spyware'
[01:32] <dillon_> does anyone here run the gba emulator?
[01:33] <reisio> dillon_: not for nothing, not real wise to use a closed source bittorrent client
[01:33] <Guy1524> Hey guys, is there a ppa with an updated version of glfw3, the one in the official packages is very old and doesn't support vulkan.
[01:39] <dillon_> when I try to load the rom it will not output the video but it will flash for about a 1/2 second
[01:49] <dillon__> my emulator, visualboy advance, it will act like it is reading but all it shows is a white screen
[01:52] <dillon__> I even tried 2 different roms and I still get nothing
[01:53] <Guest42699> Hello! I'm trying to get my server to send out emails. I've bought email (with webhotel) from a hoster, and have all the info I need ( I thnk), but what software should I use?
[01:53] <Guest42699> (ubunt userver 14.04)
[01:59] <bad_ip> Guest42699: you're only trying to send emails from your server right?
[01:59] <Guest42699> yes
[01:59] <bad_ip> vimes: Postfix. Here's a good setup guide: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-postfix-as-a-send-only-smtp-server-on-ubuntu-14-04
[02:00] <vimes> and really I just want the server to forward a send request and info to the hosting provider
[02:00] <bad_ip> Assuming you're running LTS
[02:00] <vimes> yes, thank you :)
[02:00] <bad_ip> np
[02:00] <path0gen> newww to ubuntuuu
[02:00] <path0gen> hi all
[02:03] <Bashing-om> !manual | path0gen
[02:03] <path0gen> thankyou
[02:03] <bad_ip> That's nifty
[02:04] <Bashing-om> path0gen: :) Welcome to our world .
[02:04] <bad_ip> The fact that Ubuntu is installed is a testament to something.
[02:05] <bad_ip> Never stop learning!
[02:05] <path0gen> liking it so far. only issues ive had is with amd catalyst drivers for my video cards.
[02:05] <path0gen> been on for about 4 weeks ish. acclimating
[02:05] <bad_ip> Did you get them installed?
[02:06] <bad_ip> It's actually a pretty simple solution but it takes a bit to find
[02:06] <path0gen> ive tried it 3 times
[02:07] <path0gen> each time, system crashed and I boot to a black screen with some colored dots in the top left corner
[02:07] <bad_ip> Are you using LVM with encryption?
[02:08] <bad_ip> There's an issue with something around grub that makes the encryption unlock screen turn up blank. If you just type your password in it let's you through. Happened to me on my 980's.
[02:09] <Bashing-om> path0gen: Graphics; show us what th hardware us. Pastenin the output of terminal command ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 ' . Then we look at what driver is loaded .
[02:10] <path0gen> there is no way im going to try that again at the moment. its pretty tedious rebuilding a sys 3 times :p
[02:11] <path0gen> but thank you for the offer
[02:11] <path0gen> one thing i am so happy about is the lack of clutter.
[02:11] <path0gen> and that everything is just.... understandable and verbose
[02:12] <Bashing-om> !minimal | path0gen One can get real simple
[02:14] <path0gen> anyone use weechat?
[02:18] <Bashing-om> path0gen: Many use weechat. now ask the real question .
[02:18] <path0gen> what is the matrix
[02:19] <piolin> hola
[02:20] <travisthenavi> I'm running Xubuntu 14.04 LTS. Can anyone suggest a docking application similar to OSX dock?
[02:21] <piolin> como me conecto a un servidor en español
[02:21] <path0gen> Bashing-om, my actual question was that. I tried weechat and was lost. :p
[02:21] <path0gen> switched to hexchat
[02:21] <path0gen> then irssi
[02:21] <piolin> como me conecto a un servidor o canal en español?
[02:21] <piolin> help me
[02:22] <Elronnd> piolin: For ubuntu or for anything?
[02:22] <piolin> i not speak english
[02:24] <Elronnd> piolin: irc.netsplit.de
[02:24] <z0dr1ck> path0gen: Have you tried the web version of wechat?
[02:26] <path0gen> na
[02:27] <z0dr1ck> path0gen: go to the web.wechat.com and from your phone in Wechat, tap "Discover" followed by "Scan QR Code".  Give it a whirl
[02:29] <cortexman> i rebooted into my live cd but it doesn't have a  reinstall option
[02:29] <cortexman> it's not active
[02:39] <feneco> Is there any app to manage Ubuntu tray icons?
[02:40] <xangua> feneco: no
[02:41] <feneco> Ok
[02:41] <feneco> Thanks
[02:41] <xangua> What's your real question?
[02:41] <feneco> What do you mean?
[02:42] <markwalt> Tray icons?  Which distro are you using?
[02:42] <xangua> What's your actual goal?
[02:43] <z0dr1ck> to paint a self portrait, build a house... members of project mayhem do not ask questions
[02:43] <feneco> Ubuntu
[02:43] <feneco> 14.04
[02:43] <feneco> The top menu icons
[02:44] <xangua> Ok, good luck
[02:44] <feneco> I want to reorder and control visibility of the icons showed in the top menu bar
[02:45] <markwalt> Can you not right-click, choose panel properties, and then reorder them that way?
[02:45] <feneco> No
[02:46] <feneco> Not on Ubuntu with unity
[02:46] <markwalt> Oh, right.  I'm using XFCE.  Sorry.
[02:47] <feneco> Trade offs
[02:48] <PauloHNev> after removing the old kernel, ubuntu 15 appears updates, this is normal, follow the on-screen print http://imgur.com/c6JXsAI
[02:48] <van0307> i want know if the ubuntu phone have a Terminal or not?
[02:49] <feneco> I should try other DEs some time
[02:57] <xangua> ! Touch | van0307
[02:59] <bit_> Reo
[03:00] <bit_> quit
[03:06] <nname31> hello, how can unpack-edit-modify .abs firmware file? any idea?
[03:07] <enzlbtyn> Hi! I've installed clang-3.5 and libc++-dev on ubuntu 14.04 LTS, but clang-3.5 uses GCC's standard library. Is there anyway to use libc++ by default rather than explicitly telling it to use libc++?
[03:15] <pantato> i'm struggling to format this harddrive...i formatted it as ext4 with gparted and i still can't write to it...permission denied
[03:16] <HamRadio> pantato, you successfully formatted it, but can't like create a file or folder on the drive?
[03:16] <heeen> pantato: root folder probably not writable by your user
[03:18] <pantato> wtf i used chown on the folder i mounted it to and i could touch a file using the cli but i can't do anything with nautilus...
[03:18] <pantato> trying to reboot
[03:21] <path0gen> whats the most inappropriate ubuntu command involving the manual command
[03:21] <s_cooper> rtfm?
[03:22] <path0gen> man touch
[03:22] <path0gen> thats gotta be it
[03:22] <s_cooper> lol
[03:22] <Madhumper69> why cant i connect to ssh or apache on my ubuntu server running a vpn yet i can access transmission and webmin etc from the outside externally?
[03:23] <s_cooper> path0gen, great one
[03:23] <Madhumper69> ports are forwarded in router , thanks
[03:23] <path0gen> Madhumper69, still a bit confused about the setup here
[03:24] <s_cooper> Madhumper69, doesnt it have to do w/ privileged ports and the VPN?
[03:24] <Madhumper69> i have a ubuntu server on a vpn connection. from the outside i am able to view transmission and my webmin page but i am unable to access ssh and my apache website
[03:25] <s_cooper> Madhumper69, youre serving from 80 and 22?
[03:25] <Madhumper69> yes locally all works
[03:25] <Madhumper69> externally all works - ssh and apache website port 80
[03:25] <path0gen> "from the outside" like, some other random external IP? but you cant access it on the vpn
[03:26] <Madhumper69> even without vpn i cant access it i use vpn because my network is messed up i mainly used it for plex :P
[03:26] <s_cooper> Madhumper69, ok, its not what I thought
[03:26] <path0gen> check the hosts.allow?
[03:26] <path0gen> oh
[03:26] <Madhumper69> all works locally, externally only ssh and apache cant access
[03:27] <Madhumper69> sorry my english is not the best :D
[03:27] <path0gen> sounds like possibly a firewall issue
[03:27] <Madhumper69> no firewall is disabled
[03:27] <path0gen> do u have a packet cap of a connection attemp
[03:27] <Madhumper69> i tried changing ports on apache and ssh no go
[03:28] <Madhumper69> no its my own home made server
[03:28] <s_cooper> Madhumper69, man, you shoulda try to raise those serving ports... your description is confuse - I need a diagram
[03:28] <path0gen> ^
[03:28] <path0gen> basically i think he is saying the following:
[03:28] <path0gen> he can access every thing fine Locally. As in, from the box itself he can access the services
[03:28] <s_cooper> SNAFU!
[03:29] <s_cooper> alright..
[03:29] <Madhumper69> yes
[03:29] <path0gen> but everything remote is inaccessible. Remote meaning both purely external AND via VPN
[03:29] <Madhumper69> yes
[03:29] <s_cooper> so the problem is: nobody out of the world can access that box
[03:29] <Madhumper69> well remotly my transmission works and webmin works externally like from the outside
[03:30] <Madhumper69> not apache and ssh
[03:30] <path0gen> ok so you can navigate to webmin from both vpn and pure external
[03:30] <Madhumper69> yes
[03:30] <s_cooper> "and webmin works externally like from the outside" <---- ???
[03:30] <path0gen> lol just go with it
[03:30] <Madhumper69> exactly so does transmission
[03:30] <path0gen> hes saying that some services work externally
[03:30] <path0gen> but ssh and apache dont.
[03:30] <Madhumper69> bingo
[03:30] <s_cooper> uhum..
[03:31] <s_cooper> and the service that cannot be served are the standard 80 and 22!
[03:31] <ICantCook> is there a ubuntu/aptitude equivilent of: yum -y update --security
[03:31] <ICantCook> ?
[03:31] <Madhumper69> yes
[03:31] <ICantCook> I've looked into: unattended-upgrades
[03:32] <ICantCook> but it doesn't look like you can call it on demand
[03:32] <s_cooper> Madhumper69, I suppose youre serving from an ISP line?
[03:32] <somsip> ICantCook: if you want to do on-demand, just use apt-get.
[03:32] <Madhumper69> yes
[03:32] <path0gen> can you show us result of netstat -tupan
[03:32] <Madhumper69> its a home server
[03:32] <Madhumper69> sure
[03:32] <path0gen> and ListenAddress line in sshd_config
[03:32] <path0gen> is it commented out
[03:33] <ICantCook> somsip: doesn't look like it has an option to only upgrade packages with security patches?
[03:33] <Madhumper69> its in my house i locally connecto to vnc or use terminal
[03:33] <Madhumper69> ssh
[03:33] <s_cooper> Madhumper69, rise those ports... and tell your users to "http.....:2518" and "shh on 6545" for example
[03:33] <somsip> ICantCook: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194/how-can-i-install-just-security-updates-from-the-command-line
[03:34] <s_cooper> Madhumper69, some ISPs dont allow priviledge port access
[03:34] <Madhumper69> i tried ssh 33333 and http 35000 didnt do nothing same thing
[03:34] <s_cooper> privileged
[03:34] <s_cooper> Madhumper69, restarted the services and everything?...
[03:34] <Madhumper69> yes in webmine i stop and start apache
[03:35] <s_cooper> Madhumper69, thats bad
[03:35] <Madhumper69> what is bad? my restarting the service?
[03:35] <Madhumper69> from webmin?
[03:35] <somsip> Madhumper69: just checking - you've got webmin exposed externally?
[03:35] <s_cooper> Madhumper69, thats bad cuz I cannot tell you what else may be wrong
[03:36] <Madhumper69> yes it is working externally
[03:36] <s_cooper> :(
[03:36] <Madhumper69> aswell as transmission however ssh and apache no go
[03:36] <path0gen> output of netstat -tupan
[03:36] <somsip> Madhumper69: webmin has a bad reputation - it's different from your real issue, but you should read about the risks you're taking with this
[03:36] <somsip> Madhumper69: also, what version of ubuntu?
[03:37] <Madhumper69> 14.04
[03:37] <Madhumper69> im pasting just getting the link
[03:37] <path0gen> ok thanks
[03:38] <Madhumper69> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15176733/
[03:38] <Madhumper69> let me do it again as root
[03:38] <Madhumper69> ?
[03:39] <path0gen> 192.168.1.68:22         192.168.1.67:54425      ESTABLISHED
[03:39] <path0gen> ?
[03:39] <Madhumper69> tahts me locally
[03:39] <path0gen> 192.168.1.68:22         192.168.1.69:9707       ESTABLISHED
[03:40] <Madhumper69> from my other pc 192.168.1.69
[03:40] <path0gen> by locally, we understood that as "on the server itself" aka localhost
[03:40] <path0gen> at least i did
[03:40] <Madhumper69> thats my windows 10 pc
[03:40] <s_cooper> Ill go to bed
[03:40] <s_cooper> cya gusy
[03:41] <path0gen> this just seems like the port forwarding rules might be screwed up
[03:41] <path0gen> cya
[03:41] <s_cooper> cya guys
[03:41] <Madhumper69> nope all is open on the router for ip 68
[03:41] <path0gen> ok. well at ths point id run a packet capture on .68
[03:42] <path0gen> then try to connect. also run a packet cap on the client.
[03:43] <Madhumper69> 0.o never done that before... could you point me out to a link for a how to or more info?
[03:43] <path0gen> sure
[03:44] <path0gen> http://bencane.com/2014/10/13/quick-and-practical-reference-for-tcpdump/
[03:44] <Madhumper69> thanks for you help path, im pretty sure ive done all write
[03:44] <Madhumper69> right**
[03:44] <path0gen> youre gonna be taking a dump. with tcpdump
[03:44] <path0gen> gl
[03:44] <Madhumper69> lol thanks
[03:46] <Madhumper69> i forgot to mention vnc also works externally so it must be a port issue what do you think?
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> Madhumper69: be carefull witn vnc its a high security risk
[03:46] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[03:46] <ubuntu-mate> i an new bird
[03:47] <Madhumper69> nothing to important, just plex server and a website...
[03:47] <Madhumper69> no personal information etc...
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu-mate: welcome, you joined an ubuntu support channel
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> Madhumper69: just saying, youl get hammered daily
[03:47] <Madhumper69> 0.o what would you suggest stricly ssh?
[03:48] <somsip> Madhumper69: ssh and fail2ban
[03:48] <DarkAceZ> how do I clear/remove .xsession-errors without rebooting?
[03:48] <somsip> DarkAceZ: echo > ~/.xsession-errors
[03:48] <Madhumper69> i been playing with ubuntu for 2weeks now i put up a box apache plex server and messed around with lots of stuff im still a noob but im learning at a fast rate
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> !security | Madhumper69 have a quick read here aswell :p
[03:49] <somsip> Madhumper69: exposing yourself externally (oooer) is always a risk until you understand the security issues.
[03:49] <Madhumper69> would it be safer if i add permissions in vnc to only allow certain ips? could i do that?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> Madhumper69: no take somsip's advise and forget about vnc
[03:49] <somsip> Madhumper69: when you know the issues, it's still a risk but you cant blame ignorance any more
[03:50] <Madhumper69> right, well alot of things i can do in terminal but im still learning the UI helps me at times
[03:50] <somsip> Madhumper69: I understand, but it also encourages not learning CLI
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> Madhumper69: there is a nice #openssh channel, maybe they can help with ssh -X or something
[03:50] <Madhumper69> yeah
[03:51] <Madhumper69> i put my firewall down until i new all worked then i was goign to activate it lol
[03:51] <somsip> Madhumper69: which is backwards
[03:51] <DarkAceZ> haha thanks somsip
[03:51] <Madhumper69> :D\
[03:51] <DarkAceZ> but it didn't help
[03:52] <somsip> DarkAceZ: it clears it. It might fill up again but that's another issue
[03:52] <DarkAceZ> it did work, for a second, but then, when another log message came through, it returned to the 6.4GB file
[03:52] <Madhumper69> well my monitor has 2xhdmi i could always use that for ui and from the outside use ssh that seems like it would be better for safeguarding my server
[03:53] <DarkAceZ> somsip: I believe I'm going to have to delete it, then reboot
[03:53] <DarkAceZ> I just don't like rebooting
[03:53] <somsip> DarkAceZ: then, another issue. What you've attempted is like sticking electricians tape over your engine warning light in your car
[03:53] <DarkAceZ> ok
[03:54] <somsip> DarkAceZ: fix the real issue, reboot if you have to. Sorted
[03:54] <Madhumper69> thanks for all the help guys, night
[03:54] <DarkAceZ> will do
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> just for info, 14.04 users urged to kernel update for security reasons: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/trusty/ spread the word today please
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[03:56] <Madhumper69> !root
[04:14] <enzlbtyn> If I make a new user, does all the installed packages transfer to him?
[04:14] <enzlbtyn> I basically just want to make a new user without the packages from apt-get
[04:15] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: apt packages are almost always systemwide
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: the user will be locked in his own /home
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: what are you affraid of happening?
[04:17] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: pretty much all software in Ubuntu is part of an apt package
[04:17] <enzlbtyn> lotuspsychje: I'm not afraid of anything, I just want to make sure that the steps to install my software is correct (in the sense of which apt packages to install)
[04:17] <derp_commander> that includes the kernel, the bootloader, the system utilities, etc.
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: every user will be able to use the packages, but has seperate /home and config
[04:18] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: users do not, as a rule, have access to the package manager. they use the same software as you and everybody else, save for those that require the superuser
[04:20] <derp_commander> allowing a user to install their own software in their own space with their own package manager is not, generally, something you would do
[04:20] <enzlbtyn> I don't see why not?
[04:21] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: number 1: unlike Windows, software is not self-contained into one folder
[04:22] <derp_commander> it's installed generally into a number of system-wide folders, with parts in /usr/bin, parts in /usr/lib, parts in /usr/share, parts in /etc, and so forth
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: somebody else should not be able to mess up your (admin) system by installing random stuff like this
[04:22] <enzlbtyn> Yeah, but why not? Why doesn't apt-get install into somewhere like ~/usr/ or something, and the to have them by default in the path.
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: do you want others to install stuff you dont know about?
[04:23] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: because a lot of software uses absolute paths for things
[04:23] <enzlbtyn> why not?
[04:23] <derp_commander> lotuspsychje: I think he already stated he was fine with it, I'm just stating the technical difficulties
[04:23] <enzlbtyn> idk just seems stupid that I have to uninstall all my packages
[04:24] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: why would you have to?
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: because then malicious users can takeover your system
[04:24] <enzlbtyn> to re-produce my steps, from a clean install of ubuntu.
[04:24] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: wait, what are you doing?
[04:24] <enzlbtyn> idgaf if they do though?
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> derp_commander: i think he wants a clean user without installed packages
[04:25] <enzlbtyn> ^
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> but remain his own installed ones
[04:25] <enzlbtyn> exactly, I don't want to destroy what I've already done.
[04:25] <enzlbtyn> whatever, I'll just boot up a VM.
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: well thats not how ubuntu works mate
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: if you want others to mess with your system, youl need another Os
[04:26] <enzlbtyn> thing is: if I made another user. I'd give it root access anyway
[04:26] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: yeah, you'd either need a VM, or a pretty complicated chroot scheme
[04:27] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: ...
[04:27] <enzlbtyn> I just wanted to sandbox each user.
[04:27] <derp_commander> can you please describe what it is you're doing before someone begins to think you're insane?
[04:27] <enzlbtyn> derp_commander: The different users are me. So why does that matter?
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: if the other user is also admin, when uninstalling a package, yours will be gone too
[04:27] <enzlbtyn> well it wouldn't be if packages were sandboxed, but they're not.
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: yeah tell us your endgoal with all this
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> what are you trying to become?
[04:28] <derp_commander> what are you trying to accomplish?
[04:28] <enzlbtyn> I already told you about 5 times?
[04:29] <enzlbtyn> I just want to reproduce steps from a clean install of ubuntu.
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: but what for?
[04:29] <enzlbtyn> To ensure I'm not missing anything? It's as simple as that.
[04:29] <enzlbtyn> But in general, I don't see the big deal about sandboxing users.
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: why do you want the user locked anyway?
[04:30] <enzlbtyn> Like, for instance, if I was to share a computer.
[04:30] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: reproducing steps, like for a bug?
[04:30] <enzlbtyn> Like to see if I'm missing any packages from my installation steps.
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: if you share a computer, just create another user the normal way...
[04:30] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: what installation steps? something your boss gave you?
[04:30] <xangua> enzlbtyn: that's what the guest session is for
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> xangua: +1
[04:31] <derp_commander> I'm still trying to piece together the point of this exercise
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> xangua: but he wants the user to be able to install what he likes :p
[04:32] <xangua> Yeah...no
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> xangua: and share admin right
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> rights
[04:32] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: first I'll tell you that's horrible security practice. I know from personal experience
[04:33] <enzlbtyn> I don't give a fuck about security lmfao
[04:33] <enzlbtyn> All users would have root access.
[04:33] <xangua> Lol
[04:33] <enzlbtyn> Do you think I'm using a fucking server?
[04:33] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: second, on Windows you can generally install an arbitrary program to an arbitrary directory and it will work. That's almost never true on Linux?
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> !language | enzlbtyn
[04:33] <enzlbtyn> why the fuck do I care? I just want to reproduce steps. Jesus christ.
[04:33] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: no, I wouldn't propose to know your server's sexual habits :-P
[04:34] <enzlbtyn> Sigh
[04:34] <somsip> !ops | enzlbtyn (ignoring requests to avoid bad language)
[04:34] <enzlbtyn> Installing a VM isn't really what I wanted to do
[04:34] <derp_commander> somsip: calm down, it's hardly an emergency
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: so if you pass admin rights to everyone...you cant stop another admin for uninstalling your stuff
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> enzlbtyn: because you allowed him to
[04:35] <derp_commander> enzlbtyn: suggestion: install a VM like QEMU, and leave before an op decides to force you
[04:35]  * dax looks up
[04:36] <derp_commander> just some friendly advice
[04:40] <derp_commander> wonderful :-D
[04:42] <ubuntu-mate_> didimissthedamthig
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> can apt-cache search seperate repos too, like if i would know whats inside the partner repo only?
[04:45] <derp_commander> lotuspsychje: that sounds more like something aptitude would do
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> derp_commander: ok
[04:49] <NoCode> anyone familiar with scanning device? Just bought an Epson XP-420 printer/scanner combo. It works. I installed the printer driver, and iscan linux driver on their website. How often do device interfaces work with the scan function? It seems the interface on the device doesn't interact with any programs or drivers in Linux.
[04:50] <derp_commander> NoCode: so if it works, what exactly are you asking?
[04:54] <dafaq> So I heard if I mention 16.04 in here you guys heads will explode...
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !xenial | dafaq
[04:55] <NoCode> derp_commander, Well, it would be nice if the screen on the device itself worked as well.
[04:56] <derp_commander> NoCode: are you sure that's a problem with Ubuntu and not with the printer?
[04:57] <dafaq> lotuspsychje, well that was anti-climactic...
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> dafaq: the only thing will explode is xenial release downloads in april
[04:58] <dafaq> lotuspsychje, likely. But I'll ask about it over in #ubuntu+1
[04:58] <dafaq> sashage, I'm reading your name like Peter Griffin saying sausage. Is that right?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> dafaq: no offtopic chitchat here please
[05:00] <dafaq> lotuspsychje, yeah yeah, fuck you, ban me I'll be back in two minutes on a different Tor node if I want. Your rules don't apply to me, dickhead.
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !ops | dafaq
[05:01] <dafaq> Lol, tattletale.
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> dafaq: Refrain from profanity in here.
[05:01] <dafaq> Gonna quote the rules and you ain't even an op. Self important prick.
[05:01] <derp_commander> ooh, a mullvad
[05:02] <derp_commander> can we just ban the whole network, can we, pretty please?
[05:02]  * tonyyarusso mode +b *!*@* :)
[05:03] <DalekSec> tonyyarusso: Naaah, +m'll fix it!
[05:03] <OpenSorce> So are they moving to the new software manager in 16.04?
[05:03] <derp_commander> tonyyarusso: you know what I mean, gateway/vpn/mullvad/*
[05:04] <OpenSorce> derp_commander, it's just a Tor node. There are tons of them it's not just mullvad..
[05:04] <nedstark> so the last 6 months i spent porting yumex to ubuntu is down the drain?
[05:04] <derp_commander> it's a VPN which is used mostly by unsavory types, I see no reason not to ban it
[05:04] <derp_commander> OpenSorce: what new software manager?
[05:05] <OpenSorce> derp_commander, I read that Ubuntu was switching to the gnome software manager.
[05:05] <derp_commander> ah
[05:05] <nedstark> ubuntu gnome has that now, but its not going to happen in xfce, lxde, or mate
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> OpenSorce: yep gnome software heading our way, see #ubuntu+1
[05:06] <OpenSorce> lotuspsychje, will do, thanks :-)
[05:06] <derp_commander> nedstark: the mate project has an... interesting relation to the GNOME project
[05:07] <nedstark> like borg vs. the enterprise
[05:10] <derp_commander> nedstark: if by that you mean MATE is the Enterprise, then sure :-P
[05:11] <derp_commander> I'd put it closer to Japan's postwar relationship with the US
[05:13] <derp_commander> or maybe India and the UK
[05:14] <nedstark> derp_commander: gnome has hidden mate inside gnome, like a little easter egg they call extensions
[05:14] <derp_commander> whatever analogies we want to use, the MATE project originates from a dissatisfaction with where the GNOME project was headed, but it's still dependent on many GNOME components
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[05:15] <nedstark> #ubuntu-bieber for discussion of the music of justin bieber
[05:15] <derp_commander> nedstark: discuss, since MATE is ubuntu-related
[05:15] <derp_commander> lol
[05:22] <zek> i want to install dual booting with win 7, 7 is already installed, there is an unformatted partition on the end of my hd ready, running live and installer started, what next?
[05:22] <django_> how can i upate sublime text 2 to 3
[05:23] <xangua> zek: follow the installer instructions?
[05:24] <NoCode> derp_commander, Yeah. It's probably just a compatibility issue in regards to how the drivers work with the device. It's a new computer. The scanner and printer *are* working, I'm just being picky.
[05:24] <xangua> django_: if by update you mean Ubuntu repositories offer version 2 and you want 3 (outside of official repositories) you're on your own
[05:24] <zek> do i just use the install ubuntu alongside windows 7 option, will that put ubuntu on the unallocated space?
[05:24] <xangua> ! Latest
[05:25] <django_> xangua, so i can only use version 2
[05:27] <zek> xangua, install ubuntu alongside windows 7- will that install to the unallocated space?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | zek
[05:30] <zek> kk ty lotuspsychje
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> zek: you can also install ubuntu single on hd and run w7 from a virtualbox if you like
[05:36] <derp_commander> lotuspsychje: my setup is actually the reverse
[05:37] <derp_commander> though it's created a very weird bug, and I'm not sure if it's with Ubuntu, VirtualBox, or the NT kernel
[05:38] <zek> how do i confirm that the partition # is the correct one? it says #5 as ext4 and #6 as swap
[05:39] <zek> as far as i knew there were 2 and the unallocated area, the 2 windows partitons (recovery and regular)
[05:39] <path0gen> check it out
[05:39] <path0gen> http://copy.sh/v86/
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> path0gen: not here please
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> !partition | zek
[05:42] <raiss> hi
[05:42] <zek> cant just answer my question? gparted i guess?
[05:50] <sta7ic> Having an issue with Mint. seems that when I leave my PC for a while and come back...I get IO errors. I dont have my power set to suspend and ssd is working just fine in windows so i think its doing something weird.
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> !mint | sta7ic
[05:52] <skweek> I think my computer has some problem detecting my ipod, I plug it in and then my computer and then an ubuntu sorry we experienced an internal error window comes up telling me there is something wrong with libgpod, this is 14.04 and I don't really see why it's having any kind of a problem, libgpod's newest version on their website was in 2013 and reinstalling and installing another from the ubuntu repository didn't do anythign ei
[05:52] <skweek> ther
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> !iphone | skweek
[05:53] <skweek> I think that it's a problem with ubuntu lotuspsychje
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> skweek: read the ipod url first mate
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> skweek: your ubuntu is fully up to date also?
[05:55] <skweek> yes
[05:57] <xangua> By iPod you mean iOS device?
[05:57] <skweek> no
[05:57] <skweek> I mean ipod classic 80 gig
[05:57] <skweek> worked fine on ubuntu installed on the last laptop
[05:57] <skweek> just got this one and it doesn't
[05:58] <skweek> anyways I finished reading those links and there wasn't anything that helpful on them
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> skweek: can you pastebin tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your ipod please
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> !info libimobiledevice trusty
[06:01] <xangua> skweek: and just worked out of the box? What Ubuntu release had the other laptop? Maybe this helps https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IPod#iPod_Classic.2FNano3g
[06:01] <skweek> http://imgur.com/TDZEwSP
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> skweek: your not up to date neither, please update to 14.04.4
[06:04] <tiwiex> http://paste.debian.net/402713
[06:04] <tiwiex> sorry to bother u all
[06:04] <tiwiex> this is my problem
[06:04] <tiwiex> proxychain keeps denying my localhost
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> tiwiex: maybe the ##networking guys or #netfilter will be able of more help?
[06:05] <tiwiex> ok. thanks
[06:05] <tiwiex> that's a good pointer
[06:05] <tiwiex> i appreciate
[06:06] <_torc_> hey everyone! is there any channel to get help with nginx config? I tried the #nginx channel but it's dead
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> _torc_: maybe ##networking ?
[06:07] <_torc_> lotuspsychje I'll check it out thanks
[06:10] <p3a> anyone else having trouble adding the dock applet to their mate panel? (ubuntu 15.10)
[06:11] <p3a> this is the dock applet http://www.webupd8.org/2015/05/dock-applet-icon-only-window-list-for.html
[06:11] <skweek> ok i'm updated now to the newest version of ubuntu... and my damn wireless card stopped working again so i'm teathered to my cell phone because this chipset wasn't supported in the the newest or this release of ubuntu, which I could use some help with also but here are the logs from plugging in my ipod with dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/15177643/
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> p3a: maybe the #ubuntu-mate guys know?
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> skweek: alot of mounting issues in your syslog
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> skweek: this doesnt sound to good neither: debpc kernel: [38662.697986] FAT-fs (sdd2): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
[06:16] <p3a> lotuspsychje, ok ill ask there
[06:16] <skweek> what should I do lotuspsychje
[06:16] <skweek> here is my wireless issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/15177647/
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> skweek: does the ipod get recognized on another machine?
[06:19] <skweek> I don't have that machine anymroe
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> skweek: was this a fresh 14.04 install or upgrade from another version?
[06:20] <skweek> fresh
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> skweek: and your ideapad rather new hardwareN
[06:21] <skweek> yes
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> skweek: i would consider a fresh 15.10, we had some ideapad users with issue latetely
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> skweek: maybe try the ipod to another pc, from someone you know first, to make sure?
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> skweek: or try it on your live 15.10 and see syslog there
[06:23] <skweek> what about my non-wireless device
[06:23] <skweek> I don't have a wifi card showing up
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> skweek: alot of nasty stuff going on in your logs: blk_update_request: critical medium error, dev sdb, sector 118574624
[06:23] <skweek> man I don't want to fresh install 15.10 ... i have my device set up just how I like it
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> skweek: wifi could be latest kernel issue, try booting grub into previous kernel then
[06:23] <skweek> what should I do lotuspsychje
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> skweek: if i was you, i would fresh reinstall
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> skweek: then check the syslog/dmesg logs to see whats happening on a clean system
[06:25] <skweek> fuck
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> skweek: but for an ideapad, also test out 15.10
[06:25] <skweek> would you say its just my install that's fucked up and that if I didn't give a shit about this ipod I'd be fine going on with the sytem as it is... or what?
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> skweek: please keep it polite mate
[06:26] <skweek> i'm sorry about that
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> skweek: im just saying, your logs are full of stuff with errors
[06:27] <skweek> well I did want to run 15.10
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> skweek: so best investigate all this on a fresh system, and knowing your hardware is pretty new, i would also reccomend a 15.10 test
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> skweek: im not saying you need to stay on a release, just to test around where your system performs best
[06:28] <skweek> is there any way to make the transition of my current system to the new one easier and quicker... like somehow getting the same apps installed on that one compared to this one?
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | skweek sure
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> skweek: i also recommend using cable/updates during setup
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> skweek: Your BIOS is broken and requested that x2apic be disabled.
[06:46] <markwalt> Having a weird problem, that's probably really easy to fix, but I'm scratching my head.  I'm running Xubuntu 15.10, and I've set my user ID to not require a password on login, which, in past versions, I thought, caused it to autologin.  But now, for some reason, it stops on a login screen, gives me a login button.  It doesn't ask for a password, but it physically requires me to press a button.  Which is a bummer because it's my home server /
[06:46] <markwalt> TV unit, and I sometimes reboot it remotely, and I don't want to get up and walk across the room, dig out a mouse and press a button.  What am I missing?
[06:53] <hateball> markwalt: what changed between it working, and now?
[06:53] <hateball> markwalt: did you change login manager perhaps?
[06:53] <markwalt> It's a fresh install on a new-ish machine
[06:54] <markwalt> When I first installed it, I just accepted the default, which requires a login
[06:54] <markwalt> Tonight, I replaced the older machine with it to be the house server
[06:55] <markwalt> The older machine, and another one besides, I *swear* all I did was set it to not require a password
[06:55] <markwalt> And they autologin
[06:56] <markwalt> They aren't fresh installs.  One of them, I've been upgrading since 12.x, and the old server I fresh installed 14.04 and have been upgrading it.
[06:56] <markwalt> Unless I'm out of my mind, and I've forgotten something simple.
[06:57] <hateball> markwalt: Well I am asking because you could have been changed from GDM to LightDM
[06:59] <markwalt> Hrm.  I'm not sure what MDM is.. is that for Mint?
[06:59] <markwalt> Oh, nevermind, I read what you typed wrong
[07:00] <hateball> markwalt: If you're running lightdm (which you likely are) then have a look here http://askubuntu.com/a/272263
[07:00] <markwalt> I'm running LightDM
[07:03] <markwalt> Hrm.  That doesn't do it for me.  I don't see the same files in /etc/lightdm as that post mentions, and I don't seem to have the command /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults
[07:05] <markwalt> So, this install is from a minimal CD
[07:09] <markwalt> I suppose I could *make* a LightDM.conf and put the suggested text in it.
[07:10] <hateball> markwalt: yes, if you read the entire thread it becomes clearer
[07:13] <huwenfeng> Hi all, is there any tools/methods to records all commands any user had ever runned to a log file? Can I do this in the ssh jump/bastion host? All my users are forced to ssh into my jump/bastion host first, then through that jump/bastion host, he could ssh to other production servers.  Now I need to record all the command users run, can I record all command in the jump/bastion server, even after the user had sshed into another server?
[07:15] <geirha> Nothing that can't be circumvented
[07:16] <markwalt> Thanks hateball.  I guess I was wary of creating folders and .conf files, but that was, indeed what I needed :-)
[07:17] <huwenfeng> geirha: what I think is that, the user could only run ssh in the jump/bastion server. So I could record the command history on the jump/bastion server. But Can I record the command after the user sshed into another server?
[07:19] <huwjr> hey - a live ubuntu host has tanked out this morning - my / is mounted as read only - any ideas?
[07:19] <huwjr> ./dev/sda1 / ext4 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[07:20] <hateball> markwalt: So, success?
[07:20] <markwalt> Yes!  Thanks.
[07:21] <markwalt> It's busily copying movies and music over as we speak :-)
[07:22] <hateball> markwalt: :)
[07:24] <tomek__> hi
[07:24] <markwalt> I think sshfs might not be the fastest way to mount drives.  Seems like SMB is faster.
[07:24] <markwalt> Hi tomek
[07:24] <tomek__> hi
[07:25] <tomek__> how to ve buttons minimize maximize close from left to righ
[07:25] <tomek__> ?
[07:27] <squinty> tomek__,  if using the unity desktop, those cannot be switched
[07:27] <tomek__> but how?
[07:28] <squinty> tomek__, but how what exactly?
[07:28] <tomek__> move windows buttons from left to right
[07:29] <squinty> tomek__,  please reread what I originally wrote
[07:30] <hateball> markwalt: use NFS over SMB if you can. SMB is a pain.
[07:35] <markwalt> Well, it is a pain, but I'm running SMB so my girlfriend can get files off the server.  She's got a Windows laptop and a Chrome Book.
[07:35] <markwalt> I've never played with NFS.  I'll have to look into it.
[07:36] <hateball> markwalt: Well you can serve your content using multiple protocols
[07:36] <markwalt> Sure, I'm doing that now.  SSHFS for my linux boxes, and SMB for the rest of the world.
[07:38] <markwalt> I love SSHFS though, it's so easy.  Kinda slow on the throughput.
[07:38] <huwjr> hia - how long should I expect fschk to take on ~150gb of data? 350 partition
[07:38] <hateball> huwjr: is it ext3 or ext4?
[07:38] <huwjr> ext…4 i think!
[07:38] <huwjr> ext3
[07:39] <huwjr> no
[07:39] <huwjr> ext4
[07:39] <huwjr> but i get a warning about ext3
[07:39] <hateball> huwjr: ext3 takes a good while, ext4 should be quite snappy
[07:39] <huwjr> weird..
[07:39] <huwjr> still hours?
[07:39] <hateball> Hours seem excessive but it all depends on the layout, are there tons of little files etc? And the speed of your drive obviously
[07:40] <huwjr> it’s an OLD server LAMP stack
[07:40] <huwjr> so yeah lots of little :(
[07:40] <huwjr> couldn’t have happened at 4am instead of start of working day could it :D
[07:40] <huwjr> right force fschk i suppose
[07:40] <huwjr> ffs
[07:42] <huwjr> oh.. touch: cannot touch ‘/forcefsck’: Read-only file system
[07:46] <StuckMojo> anyone ever seen the Software Updater GUI continuously pop up even when there are no updates?
[07:47] <StuckMojo> i.e. right after running aptitude update; aptitude safe-upgrade
[07:49] <huwjr> how can i get fschk to run if it’s readonly?
[07:49] <huwjr> ;/
[07:49] <hateball> huwjr: you cant, remount it writable
[07:49] <StuckMojo> huwjr: you can fsck an RO fs, you just can't fix it
[07:50] <huwjr> it’s not read only thuogh
[07:50] <StuckMojo> then why did you ask?
[07:50] <huwjr> because that’s my error :D
[07:50] <StuckMojo> then it *is* read-only
[07:50] <StuckMojo> if the fs gets certain errors, it will automatically remount readonly
[07:50] <StuckMojo> /dev/mapper/ginormica-root on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
[07:51] <StuckMojo> errors=remount-ro
[07:51] <huwjr> yeah i get that
[07:51] <StuckMojo> this is generally a bad thing (tm)
[07:51] <gareth__> hey folks. What's the recommended way to upgrade from 15.10 to unstable Xenial?
[07:51] <StuckMojo> if you want to live dangerously, you can remount it RW and fsck it
[07:52] <StuckMojo> or you can boot from a live cd and run fsck, which is likely safer
[07:52] <StuckMojo> or usb stick or whatever
[07:52] <huwjr> yeah thanks :)
[07:52] <huwjr> will an install iso do?
[07:52] <huwjr> i have one on the host
[07:52] <StuckMojo> of course, as i said, you *can* check a RO fs, you just can't fix errors you find
[07:53] <StuckMojo> sure if you can make it boot from it, i think you can choose rescue or some such
[07:53] <huwjr> ta
[07:53] <StuckMojo> i would try checking it ro first, see what it says
[07:53] <huwjr> won’t it auto want to check disk at reboot?
[07:53] <StuckMojo> if it's fubar, you might want to copy eveything off it you can in RO first, before you touch it
[07:53] <StuckMojo> it all depends how f*@#ed you are
[07:54] <huwjr> hehe
[07:54] <StuckMojo> if there's really important stuff on there, back up what you can now
[07:54] <huwjr> do i need to remount RW in order for a live cd/install disk to chkdisk ok?
[07:54] <StuckMojo> no it won't be mounted at all (or shouldn't anyway, that's the point)
[07:54] <StuckMojo> i'm ass-u-me-ing this is your rootfs
[07:55] <huwjr> yeah
[07:55] <huwjr> so live cd in, boot from that , check it
[07:55] <StuckMojo> or usb yeah
[07:55] <StuckMojo> there's almost certainly a usb image somewhere that's got just the bare needful to do this
[07:56] <StuckMojo> be careful just letting it try to fix a ton of stuff
[07:56] <StuckMojo> there's a reason it doesn't do that by default
[07:56] <StuckMojo> you can very easily end up worse off than you are now
[07:56] <gareth__> Move from 15.10 to unstable Xenial? Anyone?
[07:56] <StuckMojo> granted that's not all that common, but when it happens, it sucks bigtime
[07:57] <StuckMojo> again, i would urge you to copy off anything critical now
[07:58] <huwjr> yeah have lots of backups
[07:58] <huwjr> ty
[07:58] <StuckMojo> ah, then you could just say screw it and remount rw, and fsck away
[07:58] <StuckMojo> run with sissors, it's run
[07:58] <StuckMojo> fun even
[07:59] <squinty> gareth__,  might want to join #ubuntu+1 as that is the channel for upcoming releases
[07:59] <gareth__> cheers squinty
[07:59] <StuckMojo> huwjr: to do that, IIRC from long ago memory, it's something like mount /dev/foo -o remount or some such
[07:59] <StuckMojo> just man mount and search for remount
[08:00] <huwjr> i was mid shutdown
[08:00] <ren0v0> hi, i have two ethernet cards, how do i go about disabling one of them?
[08:00] <huwjr> was going to boot from iso
[08:00] <StuckMojo> meh, do it right then, it's good practice
[08:01] <huwjr> seems to have hung at shutdown so probably needs turning off now
[08:01] <StuckMojo> yeah likely trying to write to rootfs to shut down services
[08:01] <StuckMojo> huwjr: btw, dmesg should have had info about what error happened
[08:02]  * StuckMojo heads back to bed
[08:03] <StuckMojo> huwjr: 'gnight and good luck
[08:03] <huwjr> thanks si
[08:03] <huwjr> sir!
[08:17] <zamba> i want to get back common keyboard shortcuts and mouse movements.. like i want to use alt+f1 .. f4 to switch workspace.. and i also want to alt + rightclick to resize windows..
[08:17] <zamba> i'm running 14.04 with gnome classic
[08:35] <[GeekNerd]> can Ubuntu join an active directory domain as a client?
[08:36] <[GeekNerd]> I know Linux can host one on samba but IDK if linux can JOIN a windows server 2012 R2's AD domain as a client
[08:38] <ck_mfc> is anyone of you using ubuntu touch?
[08:40] <DJones> ck_mfc: Probably the best place to ask that will be in #ubuntu-touch, thats the main support channel for tablet/phone issues
[08:53] <Selmarion> Всех с праздником!
[08:55] <huwjr> Pls can someone confirm - i am trryin to CHKDSK from Ubuntu install CD
[08:55] <huwjr> is it “rescue a broken system” from the main menu?
[08:55] <huwjr> ?
[08:56] <stevecam> hey, when i run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" it tells me that there are no updates for your system, but in "System Updates" in the Unity GUI it tells me that there are a few security updates, can someone make sense of this with me
[09:00] <tiblock> Hi. I want to write multiple lines to file from bash, but bash replacing stuff. For example http://pastebin.com/raw/xrddLWC7 "$1" will be not writen in file, there will be empty space. How to write multiple lines without bash replaces?
[09:04] <Pici> stevecam: have you tried using sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:04] <huwjr> can i use Desktop LIVE cd to check disk on SERVER?
[09:04] <stevecam> Pici, thank you, just gave me what i was looking at
[09:05] <huwjr> just want to run check disk for fook sake :p
[09:07] <tiblock> Oh, i found solution, need to replace EOF with 'EOF'. Nice. Solved.
[09:08] <unimaxlin> ss -s shows *	  442916 but in netstat -a it shows only 400 connections, what could be the reason
[09:08] <unimaxlin> can i check something here
[09:09] <huwjr> Can i check disk from Ubuntu DESKTOP against UBUNTU LIVE?
[09:09] <huwjr> ubuntu server*! FFS :D
[09:10] <thms> !fastcgi
[09:10] <thms> Why did libapache2-mod-fastcgi dissapear from 15.10 ?
[09:10] <thms> there is only fcgid
[09:12] <DJones> thms: Do you multiverse repo enabled, looks like its included in that http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=+libapache2-mod-fastcgi+&searchon=names&suite=wily&section=all
[09:14] <thms> DJones: nope. What it ? Do I have to replace universe with multiverse ?
[09:16] <guruprasad> Is it possible to run multiple instance of a service in separate network namespaces?
[09:16] <guruprasad> For example, I want to run multiple instances of stunnel in separate network namespaces.
[09:17] <DJones> thms: I'm not sure what changes you'd need to do, hopefully somebody else can guide you with that
[09:18] <skweek> does anyone know what's going on here and know how to fix it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/15178196/
[09:22] <acosonic> how do I read mail postmaster@somedomain ?
[09:22] <huwjr> how do i open terminal on ubuntu desktop 14.04 ?
[09:22] <huwjr> lol
[09:23] <eugenio_> hi all, can anybody explain me how does php5 configuration works? I have a fresh recompiled module which seems to be not recognized
[09:23] <skweek> huwjr: press ctrl + alt + t
[09:23] <huwjr> should it work on a live cd?
[09:23] <huwjr> not working for me :/
[09:24] <guruprasad> huwjr: Press Windows key (if there is one). Then type 'terminal' (without the quotes) in the search. You should see 'GNOME Terminal'. Launch it
[09:24] <skweek> eugenio_: try #php !
[09:24] <guruprasad> huwjr: It will work in the live cd mode and not in the installation mode afaik
[09:25] <huwjr> i get a search box
[09:25] <huwjr> type terminal
[09:25] <huwjr> nothing comes up
[09:25] <huwjr> i have a server install all I’m trying to do is fschk but i’ve been pissing around with CDs for half an hour now
[09:26] <huwjr> any other way?
[09:28] <huwjr> any other way to get terminal up or run chkdisk without?
[09:28] <vincent42> hi all in ubuntu 14.04 , in nvidia-settings there is no option"sync to vblank" in opengl settings
[09:28] <vincent42> that seems strange
[09:29] <guruprasad> huwjr: Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[09:30] <kltrg> Ich lade per Bash-Skript mit cadaver Dateien in ein Webdav-Verzeichnis. Funktioniert. Ich würde gerne die Dateien lokal löschen, aber nur wenn die Übertragung ins Webdav auch wirklich geklappt hat. Ich weiß nicht, wie ich das überprüfen kann. Ich verstehe solche Skripte meistens, habe aber Probleme, sie selbst zu schreiben.
[09:30] <kltrg> oh, wrong language, soryy
[09:31] <skweek> does anyone know how to reset apt when it wont work?
[09:31] <kltrg> I`m using a shell script to upload files to a webdav folder using cadaver. I`d like to delete the local file, but only if the upload succeeded. Can anyone help me to write the script for this?
[09:32] <huwjr> it seems my F keys aren’t working - is there another way? :s
[09:32] <huwjr> ffs
[09:32] <huwjr> windows key brings up the search
[09:32] <bstarek__> skweek, there is a lock, you need to remove it
[09:33] <skweek> no it's not locked
[09:33] <skweek> oh
[09:33] <skweek> how?
[09:33] <bstarek__> whats the error msg you are getting
[09:33] <Drac0666> Got problem when i press shutdown it close menu bar but apps are still open and computer doesnt wont to shutdown, why?
[09:34] <hateball> kltrg: probably better off asking in #bash
[09:35] <skweek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15178419/
[09:36] <kltrg> hateball, I`ll do that, thanks
[09:39] <skweeek> sorry did you say anything I missed it
[09:39] <bstarek__> skweeek, bro apt is working fine
[09:39] <bstarek__> skweeek, you got dependencies issues
[09:39] <bstarek__> skweeek, try   sudo apt-get -f install
[09:40] <skweeek> I did and got a different error
[09:40] <bstarek__> may i ask what are you trying to install?
[09:40] <bstarek__> and what version of Ubuntu?
[09:41] <skweeek> my packages off of aptoncd from my 14 install installed 15
[09:42] <bstarek__> well some of the packages require different dependencies
[09:43] <bstarek__> i suggest you do some google search before retrying
[09:44] <huwjr> anyone??
[09:44] <huwjr> desperate now
[09:44] <huwjr> can’t open terminal on the live cd
[09:44] <huwjr> can see it is installed in the applications
[09:44] <cat__> fart dicks
[09:44] <huwjr> any other way to open it WITHOUT a keyboard shortcut?
[09:45] <cfhowlett> cat__, stop that.  wrong channel.  play elsewhere.
[09:45] <skweeek> well that's what apt spits out every time I run it now
[09:45] <cat__> lol
[09:45] <skweeek> that's why was hoping I could fix apt
[09:45] <bstarek__> skweeek, try reboot
[09:46] <bstarek__> skweeek, even if it spits that, it will install your desired package
[09:46] <skweeek> now it won't start up
[09:46] <bstarek__> be patient
[09:46] <skweeek> its just hanging on a purple screen
[09:46] <skweeek> and it went to initramfs
[09:47] <bstarek__> umm
[09:47] <bstarek__> and now?
[09:47] <skweeek> I can input text
[09:48] <bstarek__> skweeek, ok wait a moment, let me check something
[09:48] <Drac0666> Got problem when i press shutdown it close menu bar but apps are still open and computer doesnt wont to shutdown, why? Here is my log from syslog http://pastebin.com/aduMpS1t
[09:49] <bstarek__> skweeek, read this http://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox
[09:50] <kltrg> I installed Wine and purged it since, but my Gnome menu still shows me a Wine submenu including the Windows application I was trying to  run using Wine. This means, there are still parts of Wine lingering around on my system. How can I deleted Wine completely?
[09:51] <cfhowlett> kltrg, sudo apt-get purge wine         then you probably need to manually kill the config file in your /home
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> Drac0666: sudo halt -p working correctly
[09:52] <kltrg> cfhowlett, That`s what I did
[09:52] <cfhowlett> kltrg, also might need to manually remove entries from the menu
[09:52] <Drac0666> lotuspsychje, let me check
[09:53] <kltrg> cfhowlett, Judging by the (missing or not) icons, Wine itself seems to have been removed properly, but not the Adobe application I had installed.
[09:54] <mcphail> kltrg: purging an app does not remove all the modifcations the app has made in the user's home directory. This is by design. The wine shortcuts are probably under ~/.local/share/applications somewhere. If you track down the .desktop files and remove them, the menu entries are likely to go. But it is so long since I've used GNOME I can't rememeber how it populates its menu...
[09:54] <cfhowlett> kltrg, look for .wine in your /home
[09:54] <Drac0666> lotuspsychje, yes correctly
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> Drac0666: might be user related, can you try create another user and shutdown from there?
[09:55] <Bernzel> How do I free up space in /boot ? Everytime I'm installing updates it's full ?
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> Bernzel: bleachbit
[09:56] <Drac0666> lotuspsychje, ye i will give me moment
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | Bernzel
[09:57] <Bernzel> Thanks
[09:57] <kltrg> mcphail, cfhowlett, .local/share/application/wine was the folder that was still there. Thanks.
[09:57] <cfhowlett> happy2help! kltrg
[09:57] <mcphail> kltrg: :)
[09:58] <jushur> isnt it better to use apt-get to remove old kernels then using a thirdparty app? just wondering why you advice to use bleachbit
[09:58] <Drac0666> lotuspsychje, i created but i cant logout either
[10:00] <Xano> What's the Ubuntu equivalent of Apple's term "clamshell"? I'm trying to allow my notebook to be woken up by peripherals when it's docked, but its lid is closed (I use an external monitor at those times)
[10:01] <jushur> ah never mind, it wasnt for what i thought you adviced on.
[10:03] <skweeek> it looks like it is still doing the same thing bstarek__
[10:03] <bstarek__> skweeek, did you read what i sent you?
[10:03] <bstarek__> skweeek, it looks like you got a badfilesysteme issue
[10:03] <skweeek> I read it and followed the steps
[10:03] <Drac0666> lotuspsychje, logout had same problem i mean it loged out but take a way too long to close irc window
[10:03] <Drac0666> lotuspsychje, on new user shutdown was fast (closing windows)
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> Drac0666: wich ubuntu version is this?
[10:04] <Drac0666> lotuspsychje, sec phone
[10:04] <bstarek__> skweeek, is it ubuntu 15?
[10:04] <skweeek> ya bstarek__
[10:05] <Renex> hello guys. i have installed ubuntu 15.10 on vmware 12. this morning, i did a software update and after restarting i can't get into ubuntu anymore. all it appears is an underscore/dash on a black screen and i can't do anything
[10:05] <Renex> what could be the problem and how can i fix it?
[10:05] <bstarek__> skweeek, one moment, let me google some more
[10:06] <bstarek__> skweeek, try this  http://askubuntu.com/questions/137655/boot-drops-to-a-initramfs-prompts-busybox
[10:06] <bstarek__> sorry
[10:06] <bstarek__> not that
[10:07] <Drac0666> lotuspsychje, ubuntu 15.10 mate desktop, it was fine till yesterday i guess with that shutdown
[10:08] <hateball> Renex: hammer shift to get into grub menu and try booting on an older kernel
[10:08] <bstarek__> skweeek, read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2260864
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> Drac0666: you could try a previous kernel, see if shutdown works still from there
[10:10] <Drac0666> lotuspsychje, no other way to fix it?
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> Drac0666: well im not sure what could cause it either, have you got devices plugged?
[10:11] <skweeek> hey bstarek__ a few moments back I posted something about my WiFi it was a pastebin link, do you happen to see it still?
[10:11] <Drac0666> lotuspsychje, ye mouse, usb soundcard and keyboard thats all
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> Drac0666: that should not influence
[10:12] <skweeek> it was a Makefile error
[10:12] <bstarek__> skweeek, dont worry about wifi, i think it is linked to your video/graphic card
[10:12] <skweeek> I just reinstalled it
[10:12] <bstarek__> skweeek, worst case scenario, boot on a livecd and save your stuff
[10:12] <Drac0666> lotuspsychje, ye i think so either
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> Drac0666: did you try other ubuntu versions? LTS?
[10:12] <skweeek> this was a fresh install I tried to run some old packages on which in suspect overrode something in the kernel causing the problem
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> Drac0666: you can file a bug against 15.10 also
[10:13] <skweeek> but I have a Wi-Fi driver that's not being detected I posted a pace bend length of an error message that came out from a makefile that I was running with new drivers or patched drivers and it's up there somewhere and they said it awhile ago bstarek__
[10:13] <bstarek__> skweeek, could be.....if it is fresh install then reinstall
[10:13] <Drac0666> lotuspsychje, brb gonna check something
[10:14] <skweeek> pastebin link*
[10:14] <bstarek__> skweeek, whats the your computer model?
[10:14] <bstarek__> skweeek, nowaydays wifi cards are detected automatcally
[10:14] <skweeek> its a Lenovo ideapad y700
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> bstarek__: we did update this morning to 14.04.4 then his wifi dropped badly after, thats why i suggested him try 15.10
[10:15] <skweeek> ya I have had trouble with this one and had to employ some hacks to get it going every kernal update it wipes them out and I'm left without WiFi... was installing a patches kernal driver when I ran into a problem building it
[10:16] <Drac0666> lotuspsychje, well acctualy shutdown works but it takes like 30 min to close hexchat and shutdown after menu bar dissapeared
[10:16] <bstarek__> lotuspsychje, i see, i havent experienced .4 yet.
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> bstarek__: still on 3 yourself?
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> Drac0666: you mean 30sec i hope :p
[10:17] <bstarek__> lotuspsychje, yes 3 doing fine so far (i hope i dont jinx it)
[10:17] <skweeek> lotuspsychje: I keep on having problems reloading the old packages from 14 it had caused some problems with apt... first I couldn't get aptoncd to restore them so I tries to manually install them with dpkg and it causes the system to hang... I thought it overrode some of the kernal from the 14 packages over the top of 15
[10:18] <bstarek__> skweeek, do fresh install of 15
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> bstarek__: users are urged to update kernel on trusty real fast, as new security flaws are out
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> !usn | bstarek__ check trusty
[10:18] <bstarek__> lotuspsychje, thanks for headsup
[10:18] <bstarek__> lotuspsychje, 0dayz?
[10:19] <Drac0666> lotuspsychje, ye something like that but as far as i remember it was much quicker before (2 days ago)
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> bstarek__: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2910-1/
[10:20] <bstarek__> Drac0666, you mean like yesterday
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> Drac0666: well few things you can try, install preload,try previous kernel,shutdown from new user
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | Drac0666
[10:20] <bstarek__> lotuspsychje, you mean like yesterday
[10:21] <huwjr> heya _ i ran fsck.ext4 /dev/sda1 - it reports changes but “file system still has errors” am I out of luck??? any suggestions please!!!
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> bstarek__: what did i mean what?
[10:29] <tuor> Hi, I was in the german support channel and there is no one who can/wants support me. I have set a passwort for my root user and then the "don't login as root" discussion started. Now if it's possible to no start the discussion here again, I would be happy. My Problem: [Ubuntu 14.04 64bit] I use libvirt for running kvm VMs. I have installed a VM like this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15178446/ . The LVs size is
[10:29] <tuor> only 4 MB and has a read/write problem: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15178437/ last lines of my syslog: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15178430/
[10:30] <cfhowlett> tuor, 4mb?  NO ubuntu is going to run on 4mb of storage
[10:30] <tuor> What can be the Problem? Tell me if other informations can help you to help me. ;)
[10:30] <Ben64> tuor: you shouldn't be running normal things as root though
[10:30] <tuor> Ben64, I know. Can we just let this by side?
[10:31] <Ben64> if you know, then why are you doing it
[10:32] <skweek> can you look at this bstarek__
[10:32] <skweek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15178678/
[10:33] <skweeek> its the message I got when working on the wifi
[10:33] <tuor> cfhowlett, I know. Why is it only 4 MB and not 20GB like I defined on line 8: --disk size=20,bus=virtio,path="/dev/vg01_srvab00/rt00-1" (https://paste.ubuntu.com/15178446/)
[10:33] <bstarek__> skweeek, i just read it, i wouldnt know how to fix it :(
[10:33] <skweeek> lol
[10:33] <bstarek__> skweeek, try fresh ubunut 15
[10:34] <skweek> all done with resetting up ubuntu to the best of my knowledge
[10:34] <skweek> its working again, but not the wifi still an issue
[10:34] <bstarek__> skweeek, debuging takes more than reading a couple of lines
[10:34] <mcphail> tuor: Does the command expect "20" to mean "20 GB" or "20 bytes"?
[10:34] <skweek> i'm not sure where to go about working on that
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> skweek: why dont you keep messing around on 14.04
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> do
[10:35] <tuor> mcphail, size (in GB) to use if creating new storage
[10:35] <tuor> (from the manpage)
[10:35] <skweek> after 14.04 the recent update wiped out my wifi to begin with, I don't mind the upgrade to 15 but either way I need to refix the wifi
[10:36] <bstarek__> lotuspsychje, did you dist-upgradeN
[10:36] <bstarek__> ?
[10:36] <bstarek__> lotuspsychje, or manually down th image?
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> skweeek: i suggested you to install fresh this morning, as your syslog was full of errors
[10:36] <mcphail> tuor: if you change the parameter to "20G" or "20GB" does it work? Looks as if it has allocated a miminum block size instead, so it suggests it has asked for 20 bytes
[10:36] <skweek> I did lotuspsychje
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> bstarek__: regular updates should get you to .4
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> skweek: did what
[10:37] <skweek> install fresh
[10:37] <bstarek__> lotuspsychje, Thx
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> skweek: wich one
[10:37] <tuor> mcphail, I'll try it. Thx for the idea!
[10:37] <madwizard> tuor: What is the size available in vg01_srvab00 group?
[10:37] <skweek> 15.04
[10:37] <madwizard> Maybe you'
[10:37] <mcphail> tuor: it is only a guess, but let me know if it works ;)
[10:37] <madwizard> ve got all strage there already  used?
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> skweek: 15.04 is eol...
[10:37] <skweek> oh...
[10:38] <skweek> blah
[10:38] <tuor> mcphail, 402.13g (https://paste.ubuntu.com/15178716/)
[10:38] <skweek> maybe I should go back to 14
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> skweek: www.ubuntu.com ==> try a 15.10 iso
[10:40] <madwizard> Well, was worth a shot
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> skweek: and put network cable in and updates enabled during setup while you install
[10:42] <Renex> thank you hateball, i finally got it to work by using the previous version of the kernel
[10:43] <hateball> Renex: nice. file a regression bug then
[10:44] <Renex> how?
[10:44] <tuor> mcphail, I can't add letters: ERROR    Improper value for 'size': invalid literal for float(): 20G
[10:44] <thehumanelement> morning
[10:44] <tuor> I changed size=20 → size=20G.
[10:45] <hateball> !bug | Renex
[10:46] <Renex> ok, thank you
[10:48] <Zulu_Too> Hey Guys, there are so many computers out there on the market. Can anyone recommend the best 64 bit machine that works with Ubuntu?
[10:48] <cfhowlett> Zulu_Too, there is no "best"
[10:48] <mcphail> tuor: oh well - wasn't that then ;)
[10:48] <tuor> I'll try 20000000 maybe it works
[10:48] <Zulu_Too> I suppose so.
[10:48] <cfhowlett> Zulu_Too, most work quite well.  but for a truly customized experience, the Dell Developer Editions are hard to beat
[10:49] <Zulu_Too> I was looking for some suggestions not necessarily the best.
[10:49] <tuor> mcphail, ah I think I found the unit: WARNING  The requested volume capacity will exceed the available pool space when the volume is fully allocated. (20480000000 M requested capacity > 411784 M available)
[10:50] <Zulu_Too> Thanks cfhowlett for your input. Greatly appreciated.
[10:50] <tuor> so it has to be mb :)
[10:50] <tuor> ah no. it's gb.
[10:50] <mcphail> tuor: aah. If it works, you should file a bug against the package with regards to the manpage
[10:50] <tuor> nono. Was happy to early.
[10:50] <mcphail> :(
[10:51] <Zulu_Too> cfhowlett does that come with rack mounted units?
[10:51] <mcphail> tuor: I'm nowhere near a box to eperiment with that setup, I'm afraid, so I'm not going to be any help
[10:52] <cfhowlett> Zulu_Too, whoa!  nope the developer editions are laptops.  sounds like you are talking about servers.  ask #ubuntu-server   ?
[10:52] <Zulu_Too> I see thanks :)
[10:53] <tuor> mcphail, should I try #ubuntu-server to?
[10:53] <tuor> It's a server setup.
[10:53] <mcphail> tuor: no harm in trying
[10:54] <Zulu_Too> I am running a headless wireless server with Ubuntu and it is working just fine. The latency is a bit slow. I think because of the IProviders.
[10:55] <Zulu_Too> It disturbes me when they promise a service and they fall short of their promise. What a shame.
[10:56] <ralpheeee> is there a ppa for termite terminal?
[10:58] <Zulu_Too> Public Service: Two greatest Windows to Ubuntu connnection software is PuTTy  & WinSCP   The best tools on the web for free.
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | ralpheeee
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> Zulu_Too: please no advertising here
[11:00] <Zulu_Too> Lotuspsychie I wasn't advertising. I was relaying what I learned from this channel 10 years ago. Thanks for the advice.
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> ralpheeee: maybe there are alternatives you can try? what exactly do you search for in a terminal?
[11:03] <ralpheeee> lotuspsychje: am on a netinstall / mini and looking to just a run WM (i3)...something lightweight...
[11:03] <ralpheeee> dont really want xfce4-terminal due to dependencies ...
[11:04] <ralpheeee> u/rxvt the fonts issues drives me nuts...
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> ralpheeee: terminator, guake?
[11:04] <NwS> Heya guys a quick noob Q.. My server's dev sda1 boot partition is full and the whole server is down now.. Any ideas what I can delete in order to free some space?
[11:04] <cfhowlett> NwS, yep.  try sudo apt-get autoremove first
[11:05] <NwS> cfhowlett, is that safe?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> NwS, yes.  see for yourself: man apt-get autoremove
[11:05] <tsapii> ralpheeee: if it's lightweight you want, there's always xterm :P
[11:05] <k1l> NwS: can you provide a "ls -al" from within that partition? but a "sudo apt-get autoremove" should remove some unused kernels when running that system
[11:05] <ralpheeee> both are very heavy on the resources...(terminator is a one stop shop for terminal emulators...probably the best out there...but just heavy)
[11:06] <ralpheeee> tsapii: :D
[11:06] <cfhowlett> NwS, you can also preview the command with apt-get -s autoremove
[11:07] <NwS> cfhowlett, the server is so full I can't preview lol :P
[11:07] <NwS> I will give it a try
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> !info stjerm | ralpheeee how about this?
[11:07] <cfhowlett> NwS, apt-get -s autoremove will simulate the command - not execute
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> NwS  try sudo aptitude purge ~c
[11:07] <NwS> Well the server is so full I can't run that
[11:08] <k1l> NwS: what does "the server is full" mean? can you put the errors in paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here?
[11:09] <ralpheeee> lotuspsychje: thxs
[11:09] <NwS> k1l, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/15178916/
[11:09] <k1l> can you show a "df -h"
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> ralpheeee: or the lxterminal from lubuntu?
[11:10] <ralpheeee> lotuspsychje: yeah thought about that....last time i used it was not too thrilled with it...but waas a long time ago...
[11:10] <NwS> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/15178921/
[11:11] <cfhowlett> NwS, yeah, you might the article I sent you useful.
[11:12] <NwS> cfhowlett, I couldn't run the command
[11:12] <cfhowlett> NwS, http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/
[11:12] <NwS> ah let me check this out tyvm
[11:12] <k1l> NwS: its not /boot that is full. its the whole /
[11:13] <NwS> Oh, yeah noob here sorry -.-"
[11:13] <k1l> NwS: is there anything you can manually remove from that 28GB?
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> start with /tmp/* or so
[11:13] <NwS> k1l, I'm not even sure how..
[11:14] <NwS> Okie MonkeyDust tyvm
[11:14] <k1l> NwS: like any data you know you dont need anymore. i dont know what kind of data is on that server.
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> NwS  and in case you missed it:   sudo aptitude purge ~c   that's a tilde
[11:15] <k1l> NwS: you could run a "sudo du -hs /var/log"  to see if it was caused by a load of errors spamming the log messages.
[11:15] <NwS> k1l, dang 16GB
[11:16] <NwS> ty for all the help guys, will try to delete some tmp files now and then clean the logs :/
[11:16] <k1l> NwS: ok, that is way too much. "ls -al /var/log/"
[11:18] <NwS> k1l, auth.log ~5GB, btmp 3GB, mail.log 8GB pretty much
[11:19] <k1l> looks like logrotate is not working
[11:19] <NwS> Can I remove anything from tmp?
[11:19] <NwS> So I can free up some space
[11:19] <NwS> Not even sure what those files are tbh
[11:20] <NwS> sess_tonofcharshere
[11:21] <hateball> NwS: you *could* stop syslog, kill offending logs (or move elsewhere) then start syslog again
[11:21] <hateball> if auth.log is 5GB that indicates some badness going on :p
[11:22] <NwS> hateball, the server is 1 year old, never restarted and I guess I never cleaned any logs manually :/
[11:22] <hateball> NwS: the logs should rotate
[11:26] <NwS> hateball, can I delete older logs safely? Like auth.log.4.gz (mainly the gz ones)
[11:26] <hateball> NwS: sure, you can delete any logs. Just decide if you want them first
[11:27] <hateball> NwS: I would stop syslogd tho, as the logs are gigantic, and freeing up space probably lets it continue writing to the logs
[11:27] <hateball> NwS: and then have a look at them using tail, if it's the same stuff being spammed over and over or something
[11:28] <NwS> hateball, sudo service rsyslog stop (and then start)? Sorry for being 110% noob -.-"
[11:32] <hateball> NwS: yeah
[11:33] <eahmedshendy> Anyone know about softwares like "MobaXterm" or "Putty" on Linux?
[11:33] <hateball> NwS: that also lets you kill the live log files, and they will get recreated when you start the daemon again
[11:33] <bekks> eahmedshendy: NEither MobaXTerm nor Putty are actually needed, though a Putty Clone exists.
[11:33] <hateball> eahmedshendy: What is your real question?
[11:34] <trini7y> I used my ubuntu to download, then it stopped connecting to the internet
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> trini7y  wifi?
[11:35] <mcphail> eahmedshendy: those programs just replicate features which are built in to Ubuntu
[11:36] <trini7y> Both wifi and Ethernet
[11:36] <k1l> eahmedshendy: just use the command "ssh" on terminal to connect to ssh
[11:36] <trini7y> This is the second time it has behaved like this
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> trini7y  is it a laptop or desktop, which ubuntu version, which program etc
[11:38] <trini7y> Laptop, 14.0, transmission
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> trini7y  14.04 or 14.10?   14.10 is dead
[11:38] <bekks> trini7y: That may happen when too much connection are opened in parallel. It may lead to a lockup in your modem/router.
[11:40] <trini7y> But i dont want to use 15
[11:40] <bekks> trini7y: So are you using 14.04 or 14.10?
[11:40] <trini7y> Bekks i dont it those not connect to any wifi
[11:41] <trini7y> 14.04
[11:43] <synthor> hi. i am switching from amd propritary to the radon driver. i have two amd cards with four monitors at all, two connected to each card. i enabled xinerama in xorg.conf and try to manually create a full expanded desktop over all four fullhd monitors. i have four monitor sections in xorg.conf now and don't know which monitor-section is the real screen. is there a xorg-command which renders the identifier option onto each monitor, so i can see which one corre
[11:43] <synthor> spondends in the xorg.conf?
[11:48] <synthor> i now have a expanded desktop over all four screens and can move the cursor from full left to full right side. but the viewport sizes/monitor positions are not quite like they should be. while moving from left monitor 1 to monitor 2 it's fine. but then in monitor 2 the whole desktop scrolls until the end of the viewport? and then the cursor passes into monitor 3. from 3 to 4 its like 1 to 2, all good. i just want to disable that scrolling but don't know wh
[11:48] <synthor> ich monitor config that causes
[11:49] <synthor> only the desktop of monitor 2 scrolls, not the whole desktop on all screens
[11:49] <synthor> any hint what i'm missing here?
[11:54] <synthor> only the desktop of monitor 2 scrolls, not the whole desktop on all screens
[12:14] <Jakey3> can someone help with with gitlab install on ubuntu 14.04 server
[12:14] <Jakey3> i have completed the installation steps
[12:14] <Jakey3> on a vm how do i access on the local machine
[12:15] <Jakey3> through local host
[12:19] <PowerKiller3> Jakey3: I can
[12:19] <PowerKiller3> Repeat the problem
[12:20] <rimvydasv> hi. what gui do you use?
[12:20] <PowerKiller3> rimvydasv: who are you talking to
[12:20] <bekks> rimvydasv: How is that relevant to your specific ubuntu support issue? :)
[12:20] <Jakey3> PowerKiller3, can you explain how
[12:21] <PowerKiller3> Jakey3: what hypervisor
[12:21] <siegbert> hi
[12:21] <rimvydasv> sorry, clicked wrong tab
[12:21] <PowerKiller3> Jakey3: first repeat the problem you have
[12:21] <PowerKiller3> !hi
[12:21] <PowerKiller3> !hello
[12:21] <Jakey3> i have setup a virtual machine on ubuntu 14.04 server
[12:21] <PowerKiller3> !help
[12:22] <PowerKiller3> !help siegbert
[12:22] <PowerKiller3> Idk how does it work
[12:22] <PowerKiller3> Jakey3: repeat the problem
[12:22] <Jakey3> i followed https://about.gitlab.com/downloads/#ubuntu1404
[12:22] <siegbert> mhm i dont need any help but thx ;)
[12:22] <PowerKiller3> well I don't care what you did
[12:22] <PowerKiller3> just repeat the problem
[12:22] <Jakey3> and now i want to know how to access my gitlab on my host
[12:22] <PowerKiller3> I'm sorry if I am rude
[12:22] <Jakey3> from my vm
[12:22] <PowerKiller3> hmm
[12:23] <braz> bom dia!
[12:23] <PowerKiller3> I get it you are trying to connect to your VM's GitLab instance from your host
[12:23] <PowerKiller3> right?
[12:23] <PowerKiller3> !help
[12:23] <Jakey3> ye
[12:23] <PowerKiller3> braz: what language?
[12:23] <braz> portugues
[12:23] <PowerKiller3> Jakey3: run ifconfig on the vm and pastebin output along
[12:23] <PowerKiller3> braz: /j #ubuntu-pt
[12:24] <PowerKiller3> braz: also /j #ubuntu-br
[12:24] <Jakey3> which specific value do you want
[12:24] <PowerKiller3> the IP of the VM
[12:25] <PowerKiller3> it's very required
[12:25] <Jakey3> 10.0.2.15
[12:25] <PowerKiller3> 'k
[12:25] <bekks> Jakey3: Sounds like you are using Virtualbox and NAT.
[12:25] <Jakey3> yes
[12:25] <mattbv> yep
[12:26] <PowerKiller3> well open in a browser: http://10.0.2.15
[12:26] <bekks> Jakey3: Then you cannot directly connect from your host as it is stated in the vbox manual.
[12:26] <bekks> Jakey3: You need to create port forwardings.
[12:26] <PowerKiller3> ^ also true
[12:26] <PowerKiller3> ah he was using NAT
[12:27] <Jakey3> i have port forwarding setup
[12:27] <PowerKiller3> then you should've no problems
[12:27] <PowerKiller3> just open the HTTP page -.-
[12:27] <bekks> Nope.
[12:28] <PowerKiller3> whai not?
[12:28] <bekks> http://localhost:8080/ -- with a portforwarding of port 8080 to port 80 of the vm.
[12:28] <Jakey3> i have port forwarding from 22 to 2222
[12:28] <Jakey3> for ssh purpose
[12:28] <bekks> PowerKiller3: Stated in the vbox manual :P
[12:28] <Jakey3> i must setup another rule?
[12:28] <PowerKiller3> lol you seem to know more about VBox than me, go ahead
[12:28] <bekks> Jakey3: Sure. SSH is not HTTP.
[12:28] <Jakey3> ah ok
[12:28] <Jakey3> of course :)
[12:28] <Jakey3> thanks
[12:28] <bekks> Jakey3: SSH and HTTP use different ports :)
[12:29] <Jakey3> yep just realise my mistake here
[12:30] <rems13> hi
[12:30] <rems13> where can i have a little help pls ?
[12:31] <PowerKiller3> !help
[12:32] <rems13> same pls
[12:32] <PowerKiller3> rems13: what help do you need
[12:32] <rems13> when i run retroarch on my odroid C1+
[12:33] <rems13> i have a weird message about UMP device drvier
[12:33] <rems13> im french and new on linux ubuntu...
[12:33] <PowerKiller3> rems13: go to /j #ubuntu-fr :)
[12:34] <rems13> no pls
[12:34] <rems13> im sur its easy to fix
[12:34] <rems13> but its a new world for me
[12:34] <rems13> 2 days on this to get an error message
[12:34] <PowerKiller3> what's the error
[12:35] <rems13> i mp u ty
[12:35] <bekks> And which Ubuntu are you using?
[12:35] <PowerKiller3> aka cat /etc/os-release
[12:35] <rems13> 1 seconde pls i dont know this os at all
[12:35] <bekks> PowerKiller3: Wrong. cat /etc/issue :)
[12:35] <PowerKiller3> wait, is /etc/os-release deleted?
[12:35] <bekks> Did it every exist?
[12:36] <PowerKiller3> no it exists
[12:36] <bekks> *ever
[12:36] <PowerKiller3> it exists for me
[12:37] <rems13> i dont find os
[12:37] <rems13> something like
[12:37] <rems13> ubuntu 14.04 ls ?
[12:38] <rems13> ok i got it
[12:38] <rems13> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[12:39] <rems13> are u still here ?
[12:39] <hateball> !who | rems13
[12:40] <rems13> im sorry
[12:40] <rems13> if anyone want to help me
[12:40] <rems13> its not a big problem
[12:41] <mattbv> rems13: can you copy the error message to pastebin?
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> rems13  don't abuse the enter key, it has rights too
[12:42] <rems13> can i mp u cause the message is big
[12:42] <PowerKiller3> lol yea
[12:42] <PowerKiller3> rems13: PM me
[12:42] <Jakey3> i have done http://ibin.co/2XxOOkJwatEY
[12:42] <rems13> sorry all and ty all
[12:42] <Jakey3> and i still am not able to access
[12:42] <Jakey3> on local host
[12:42] <PowerKiller3> Jakey3: why even you are trying to access via localhost? D:
[12:43] <Jakey3> the point is i just want to access the gitlab installation on my vm on my host machine
[12:43] <Bitnova> hi, can anyone tell me how to switch default MTA from sendmail to another mta such as nullmailer?
[12:44] <Jakey3> ill go to any ip :)
[12:44] <Bitnova> does this command system-switch-mail apply to ubuntu?
[12:44] <Jakey3> PowerKiller3, bekks can you assit me
[12:44] <hateball> !paste | rem13
[12:44] <mattbv> Jakey3: don't you need to forward within ubuntu too? Like forwarding on iptables?
[12:44] <PowerKiller3> the IP you get
[12:44] <PowerKiller3> from ifconfig is what you require
[12:44] <PowerKiller3> mattbv: no he doesn't
[12:44] <rem13> i left but i didnt want to
[12:44] <rem13> sorry i mp
[12:45] <mattbv> PowerKiller3: ok ,thank you
[12:45] <hateball> rem13: Not knowing anything about the issue really, I googled a bit. Could this be helpful http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=116&t=8659 ?
[12:45] <hateball> rem13: That is, set correct udev rule for ump, add yourself to the group
[12:46] <rem13> omg
[12:46] <Bitnova> hi, can anyone tell me how to switch default MTA from sendmail to another mta such as nullmailer?
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> Bitnova: maybe the #sendmail guys know?
[12:48] <rem13> i dont even understand this tchat
[12:48] <rem13> linux is better than me for sur
[12:49] <anyname> how to configure eratta in ubuntu
[12:49] <Bitnova> lotuspsychje, im not sure they will help me replace their default sendmail to another mta lol.
[12:51] <rem13> ok try to stay calm
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> Bitnova: or maybe the ##networking guys
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> rem13: please dont use this channel for random text
[12:52] <bekks> Jakey3: So which portforwardings did you create?
[12:52] <TaevMac> is there a built in app, or something i can download to scan a HD for errors? im trying to mount a HD and getting "error can't mount superblock"
[12:53] <Jakey3> bekks, http://imagebin.ca/v/2XxRkN4RaI87
[12:53] <PowerKiller3> TaevMac: yes there is
[12:53] <PowerKiller3> e2fsck
[12:53] <rem13> The UMP devicedriver is version: 3, UMP libraries is version: 2
[12:53] <rem13> there is my problem ty if someone can help me
[12:54] <bekks> Jakey3: the second rule will never work.
[12:54] <TaevMac> whats the command? e2fsck /dev/sdc ?
[12:54] <bekks> Jakey3: replace the host IP in rule 2 with 127.0.0.1
[12:55] <bekks> TaevMac: which command are you using for mounting it?
[12:55] <auronandace> TaevMac: sdc is the whole drive, don't you want to fsck just a partition?
[12:56] <Jakey3> bekks, thanks that worked
[12:56] <PowerKiller3> and wait
[12:56] <bekks> Jakey3: you're welcome :)
[12:56] <PowerKiller3> that was for ext* filesystems
[12:56] <PowerKiller3> and if you have another FS you that specific one
[12:58] <Pantsu> TaevMac: use fsck and smart
[12:59] <Pantsu> TaevMac: also which fs is this?
[13:10] <oem_> hı
[13:10] <oem_> hello
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:11] <oem_> tor system
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> !tor | oem_
[13:35] <tuor> I found the problem with logical volume read/write error: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.libvirt.user/4555
[13:35] <rems> are u here ?
[13:36] <Guest63491> powerkiller ?
[13:37] <msev-> anyone played with the new "Munity" or "Mutiny" ubuntu mate desktop layout?
[13:37] <Guest63491> powerkiller ?
[13:38] <Pici> Guest63491: Can we help you with something?
[13:38] <Guest63491> can u tell to powerkiller i had a bug and xchat restarted
[13:38] <Guest63491> i cant find him
[13:38] <tarvid> Knoppix runs, several versions of Ubuntu fail to install. I get through select a language then select install and the display shuts down with numlock on non-responsive to toggle
[13:39] <Guest63491> pls
[13:39] <k1l> Guest63491: he left.
[13:39] <cfhowlett> Guest63491, xchat is abandonware and no longer supported or developed.  install hexchat
[13:39] <tarvid> I presume it is chocking on setting up the display port to my Lenovo 4k monitor
[13:39] <Guest63491> hexchat ?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> !info hexchat | Guest63491
[13:40] <Guest63491> how can i uninstall xchat pls ?
[13:40] <k1l> Guest63491: use the softwarecenter
[13:40] <cfhowlett> Guest63491, sudo apt-get purge xchat && sudo apt-get install hexchat or use the software center
[13:41] <Guest63491> why i cant copy ur code ?
[13:41] <Guest63491> i come back with hexchat and then i hope someone could help me pls
[13:44] <therry> hello
[13:48] <rems13> hi again
[13:48] <leonarth> how can one test-run the user's crontab?
[13:48] <rems13> now im on hexchat
[13:49] <Pici> leonarth: what do you mean by test-run?
[13:49] <leonarth> run the commands specified in the crontab configuration
[13:49] <rems13> i need help when u have time pls
[13:49] <leonarth> test if the crontab is actually running those commands for sure
[13:49] <k1l> rems13: say what the issue is and what errors do you get
[13:50] <leonarth> Pici ?
[13:50] <Pici> leonarth: Either change the time fields in the file to something soon or run it manually.  If you're just trying to check if they have run.
[13:50] <Pici> leonarth: er, you can look at /var/log/auth.log for CRON entries.
[13:51] <leonarth> ok so I can specify to run a command every 1 minute
[13:51] <leonarth> 1 * * * *
[13:51] <leonarth> and check auth.log
[13:51] <k1l> rems13: support only here in this channel. put the errors into paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[13:51] <Pici> leonarth: thats once an hour.
[13:52] <leonarth> m h day month week
[13:52] <wvlf> hello ubuntu, does anyone have a good tutorial for setting up postfix+dovecot? i dont want to use virtual hosts or mysql, and i'd like to do PAM authentication. is this possible?
[13:52] <Guest45147> does anyone how to connect an ubuntu laptop to a netgear n300 router
[13:53] <leonarth> Pici that's supposed to be every minute
[13:53] <k1l> Guest45147: the same way like you would do it on windows?
[13:53] <Guest45147> yes
[13:53] <Pici> leonarth: No, thats when the minute field matches '1', so once an hour.
[13:53] <Guest45147> thx
[13:53] <Pici> leonarth: * * * * is every minute.
[13:54] <leonarth> Pici oh, thanks
[13:54] <Guest45147> k1l yes
[13:54] <Guest45147> k1l thanx
[13:55] <k1l> Guest45147: i dont understand where your exact issue is.
[13:55] <Guest45147> k1l i can't get my toshiba laptop to connect to my netgear wifi network
[13:55] <rems13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15180136/
[13:56] <rems13> anyone could help me pls ?
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | Guest45147 start here
[13:57] <rems13> powerkiller are u there ?
[14:00] <rems13> is anyone can help me pls ?
[14:00] <cfhowlett> !patience | rems13,
[14:01] <k1l> rems13: that seems to be an odroid ARM specific issue
[14:02] <rems13> yes i bought an odroid C1+
[14:02] <marccc2> moin
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> !de | marccc2
[14:03] <rems13> and i learned a bit about ubuntu
[14:03] <marccc2> ubottu: sure
[14:03] <rems13> but i dont know why retroarch doesnt work at all
[14:04] <marccc2> but i'm not german :D
[14:04] <rems13> i dont want rom or emulator
[14:04] <rems13> i just want to see what it is
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> rems13  you're in the wrong channel, if it's an android issue
[14:05] <k1l> rems13: you dont want retroarch? then why you want it  to run then?
[14:05] <rems13> android no i have an odroid C1+ on ubuntu 14.04.4 lts
[14:05] <DarkFiber> So if someone is torn between windows and ubuntu, whats the general consensis?
[14:06] <k1l> rems13: and please ask odroid about that issue with mali_drm_dri.so   that seems to be a known issue on odroid c1
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> find odroid
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> !find odroid
[14:06] <k1l> DarkFiber: since you ask in #ubuntu : use ubuntu :)
[14:06] <k1l> MonkeyDust: odroid c1+ is like raspberry pi
[14:06] <rems13> i know guys but im not english im french
[14:07] <rems13> and first time i see linux on my computert
[14:07] <rems13> and i had no sleep till 2 days
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | DarkFiber convince yourself online :p
[14:07] <k1l> rems13: its a device specific error. the odroid community will know best
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> DarkFiber  everything is better than windows ... or is that not what you mean
[14:07] <DarkFiber> k1l: yeah.... i couldnt  find the equal channel between windows and linux.. :D
[14:08] <rems13> odroid community ?
[14:08] <rems13> can i find it on hexchat ?
[14:10] <DarkFiber> MonkeyDust: It's easy enough to say it, but what is one main major downfall from ubuntu vs windows
[14:10] <k1l> rems13: #odroid
[14:10] <rems13> ty man
[14:10] <rems13> if one day i can help others
[14:10] <rems13> i will
[14:10] <k1l> DarkFiber: ubuntu is open source and comes for free.
[14:11] <DarkFiber> right thats an advantage k1l whats a disadvantage
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> DarkFiber  windows is the mainstream (MS), that can be seen as an advantage
[14:11] <DarkFiber> MonkeyDust: cant find anything really can you?
[14:11] <shubi> hello
[14:11] <DarkFiber> shubi: whassup :D
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> DarkFiber  you're in the ubuntu channel, what answer do you expect?
[14:12] <DarkFiber> lol :D True
[14:12] <k1l> DarkFiber: more of that talk is better suited into #ubuntu-offtopic since we focus on actual technical issues in here
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> DarkFiber  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion
[14:12] <shubi> I'm well thanks :) I really like Ubuntu, but it seems the fan control is problematic...
[14:12] <shubi> I have Thinkpad W500 and the fan is constantly on pretty loud.
[14:12] <shubi> At least 2700RPM constantly...
[14:13] <k1l> shubi: what ubuntu are you on exactly? do you have the latest bios?
[14:13] <shubi> I have 14.04.3, when I updated everything it became even louder, so I am using the version it came with (a week ago).
[14:14] <shubi> On Windows there is this Lenovo program that handles the fan.. But it only works on Windows..
[14:14] <k1l> shubi: uname -a?
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> shubi  try TLP
[14:15] <shubi> Linux dubi 3.19.0-25-generic #26~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 24 21:16:20 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:15] <mattbv> shubi: as MonkeyDust said, try TLP for a while and see if it helps
[14:15] <shubi> What is TLP?
[14:15] <mattbv> !tlp | shubi
[14:15] <k1l> shubi: you could try the 4.2 kernel, that is the wily backports kernel. see the "enablement stack" on how to install it
[14:16] <k1l> !hwe | shubi
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> shubi  my mistake, that's for the battery
[14:17] <k1l> shubi: and what video card is it? and what driver is used?
[14:17] <shubi> Is the Kernel you are talking about later than what is offered in the regular upgrade?
[14:17] <shubi> k1l: I am using the integrated Intel card. I don't know which driver.
[14:18] <k1l> shubi: its the 15.10 backports kernel. that is the standard now if you install a 14.04.4. but from a 14.04.3 you need to install that like its told in the linked wiki page
[14:18] <k1l> shubi: ok. so the driver is in the kernel from intel. so i suggest try ing the 4.2 kernel
[14:18] <xangua> shubi: http://m.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html?m=1
[14:18] <daveomcd> I just upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10, when I boot up my machine now I get to a screen that shows "Ubuntu 15.10 ttyl" and "login: _" then it goes to another screen thats black with a cursor ("_" not mouse pointer) that doesn't move.  And it never leaves that ... anyone know what i can try to get it back up a running?
[14:18] <xangua> That's tlp
[14:19] <miccheck> Can anyone please help? I am trying to backup certain folders via rsync from an ubuntu vps to a backup folder on my mac. Neither the mac or the vps accounts are root, and I have root login access turned off on the vps. I ssh into it using an ssh config that I setup on my mac, and I'm trying to use ssh with rsync to perform the backuip, but I keep getting permission errors, not all files transferred, and so on.
[14:19] <miccheck> Can anyone please tell me the best way to do this, and whether or not I should continue to have root access disabled? I've read multiple things on both topics and I'm still not sure the right way to do this, etc.
[14:21] <shubi> I did the auto-update before and it was actually louder. (The wiki says from 14.04.2 it will update to the last kernel.. no?)
[14:23] <shubi> maybe i'll just try 14.04.4
[14:24] <Guest80720> nick james
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> DarkFiber  https://insights.ubuntu.com/case-studies/
[14:24] <oeuvre> try /nick james Guest80720
[14:24] <Pici> 'james' is probably already registered.
[14:24] <k1l> shubi: you are mixing things there
[14:25] <k1l> shubi: please install the lts-wily kernel stack like told on that wiki page. if that is not helping we can easily remove that kernel afterwards again.
[14:26] <k1l> shubi: you will not get that kernel when running the regular update only. because it will update you to the 14.04.4 (the 4th "servicepack") state, but ubuntu will not change the kernel on LTS automatically
[14:27] <shubi> k1l: okay! so i just run the command for trusty and restart?
[14:28] <k1l> shubi: yes
[14:28] <shubi> okay! is reverting back a similar command?
[14:28] <miccheck> Sorry, I may have asked my question in the wrong channel
[14:28] <k1l> yes.
[14:34] <shubi> k1l: okay I'm downloading the newer now.
[14:37] <croberts> is wine/cinnamon stable for 15.10 yet
[14:38] <shubi> how do I remove it if I have an issue with it?
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> croberts  what makes you ask that
[14:38] <k1l> shubi: exchange install with purge
[14:39] <croberts> MonkeyDust: im on 15.04 currently and wanting to upgrade to 15.10 and wanted to make sure they were in a good spot since i use those quite a bit
[14:39] <cfhowlett> croberts, rethink your priorities.  15.04 is dead.  that means NO security updates ...
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> croberts  yes, 15.10 is stable
[14:40] <shubi> Did this change my bios loader to grub on my main hard disk?
[14:40] <croberts> cfhowlett: you make a good point i will update
[14:40] <croberts> MonkeyDust: thank you
[14:40] <k1l> shubi: no
[14:40] <shubi> cause I had linux on a separate drive - with grub only on that one
[14:41] <shubi> okay i'll brb
[14:45] <daoSs> 大家好
[14:45] <cfhowlett> english daoSs
[14:45] <daoSs> ok
[14:45] <shubi> k1l: i'm back.
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[14:47] <daoSs> why nobody talked here?
[14:48] <k1l> daoSs: #ubuntu-offtopic for chat. this channel here is support only
[14:49] <cfhowlett> daos, ubuntu support.  works like this: you TELL us your support issue ...
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> and then cfhowlett answers
[14:49] <daoSs> i see
[14:49] <shubi> So far, it seems like the Fan RPM is somewhat lower
[14:50] <shubi> Around 1900 instead of ~2800 RPM
[14:50] <shubi> Thank you. I have one more question though.
[14:51] <shubi> If I update through the standard update app, will it change my kernel? Do I need to disselect the kernel option?
[14:51] <shubi> Since I got a version that is not offered in the automatic update as I could understand..
[14:53] <k1l> shubi: what version are you talking about?
[14:53] <shubi> k1l: you told me to update from that wiki page.
[14:53] <k1l> shubi: look at this pic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=14.04.x+Ubuntu+Kernel+Support+Schedule.png
[14:54] <k1l> shubi: when you install one of the 14.04.X you will have that kernel that it names and stay on that kernel no matter what updates you run. a 14.04.2 will always stay on 3.16. except you change the kernel-base manually like you did now to have the 4.2 kernel.
[14:59] <pantato> quit
[15:05] <Jakey3> is there a more visual way to git commits and branches in the terminal
[15:05] <Jakey3> than git log
[15:06] <shubi> k1l: if i update the "Thermal Monitoring and Controlling Demon" with the standard updates would I be able to revert it back?
[15:07] <k1l> shubi: you need to run the updates. for the packages in the ubuntu repos
[15:07] <Pici> Jakey3: git log --graph maybe?  #git probably has some other suggestions though
[15:07]  * k1l goes afk
[15:07] <Jakey3> ok
[15:09] <shubi> okay, it's just i am a bit weary now that the fan is quieter - that it might go back to noisy (when i updated on my previous install it became louder).
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> shubi  install thermald, to help your pc cool down
[15:15] <shubi> MonkeyDust: thanks, it is installed - and the computer is relatively okay (38-55)
[15:15] <shubi> I just wonder if I can revert updates if they make it worse?
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> shubi: laptop-mode-tools can help a bit perhaps too
[15:29] <hexhaxtron> I think I'm missing some repositories. I can't find for example canto and rssowl...
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> hexhaxtron: these are external ppa's?
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> hexhaxtron  are those ppa's?
[15:31] <Bernzel> Does ubuntu have some mechanism to prevent tray opening? I weirdly or by coincidence noticed my cd rom tray stopped opening after installing ubuntu
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  was faster
[15:31] <svxf> hi
[15:31] <svxf> why is  *!*@*178.162.19* banned?
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> Bernzel: maybe man eject can help?
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> svxf: #ubuntu-ops for ban questions please
[15:32] <Fuchs> oh god, that ban list :/
[15:32] <svxf> Fuchs: ikr :p
[15:34] <shubi> Thanks, goodbye
[15:35] <lugarius> Is someone here who used fedora before ubuntu?
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> lugarius  that's a yes/no question, better ask your real question
[15:36] <Pici> lugarius: I did... but that was in like 2006
[15:36] <hexhaxtron> MonkeyDust: do you know?
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> hexhaxtron  what was your question?
[15:37] <Pici> hexhaxtron: you quit. I was going to tell you that canto was removed from debian, and thus removed from Ubuntu because it was unmaintaned, see debian bug 764758
[15:37] <lugarius> i want to know why fedora is not so popular like ubuntu
[15:38] <Pici> hexhaxtron: it doesn't look like rssowl has ever been in our repos.
[15:38] <hexhaxtron> Pici: oh... but anyway is there some repository I should know about that didn't come preconfigured in Ubuntu?
[15:38] <Fuchs> lugarius: sounds more like something for #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:38] <lugarius> ok
[15:38] <ioria>  !info canto trusty
[15:38] <Pici> ioria: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/canto/+publishinghistory
[15:39] <ioria> Pici, oh, right ... sorry
[15:39] <vincent42> hi all, how stable is kubuntu 16.04 today ?
[15:39] <Pici> hexhaxtron: There might be a PPA out there for rssowl, but you'll need to find and evaluate its quality yourself.
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> vincent42: you can aks in #ubuntu+1
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> ask
[15:39] <vincent42> ok, thanks
[15:39] <hexhaxtron> Pici: wait...
[15:40] <hexhaxtron> Pici: am I missing some repository? http://sprunge.us/MRTf
[15:40] <abra0> Pici: thanks :3
[15:41] <Pici> hexhaxtron: nope. Those are all the standard repos.
[15:41] <Pici> hexhaxtron: PPAs are user-created repositories.
[15:41] <hexhaxtron> Alright, thanks!
[15:41] <Pici> !ppa
[15:41] <Pici> abra0: np
[15:48] <crystalraven> hi when i try to build the game "The Secret Chronicles of Dr. M" from git using make, make returns in the terminal: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15180956/ what is rong here? can some one help me with this? running ubuntu 14.04.04 x64
[15:50] <vincent42> with network-manager in ubuntu 14.04, I have a network interface, then I manually add some routes, then I  activate a VPN  (pptp), later , when the VPN goes down, all my custom routes of the network interfaces are removed as well , even though they're completely unrelated to the vpn
[15:50] <vincent42> it's as if when th eVPN goes down, the network  interface is also reinitialized, it didn't do that in ubunt 12.04 or other distrib like arch
[15:51] <Pantsu> vincent42: your vpn profile is probably overriding your routing table
[15:51] <Pici> crystalraven: have you read https://github.com/Secretchronicles/TSC/blob/devel/INSTALL.md ?
[15:51] <Pantsu> vincent42: go check it (ip route)
[15:52] <Pantsu> the actual profile that is
[15:52] <vincent42> Pantsu: but it should only touch the routes that are related to its own interface , no ?
[15:52] <crystalraven> Pici: yes and i have installed all dependencies with apt-get as written in "INSTALL.md"
[15:53] <vincent42> Pantsu: actually I'm using the Automatic method of ipv4 configuration , i'm not doing anything special
[15:53] <vincent42> it's working in other versions of ubuntu or other distrib
[15:55] <Pici> crystalraven: I'm afraid I'm not sure then.  It looks like they have an IRC channel here though, although it doesn't look busy: #secretchronicles
[15:57] <Pantsu> well if you are doing dhcp over the vpn then that will happily nuke your existing routing table
[16:18] <alimj> Hello. Good evening. What is the procedure to appoint/re-appoint new OPs for other #ubuntu-* sub-language channels?
[16:18] <alimj> The sister support channels in other languages which are orphaned
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> alimj: i think you can ask this in #ubuntu-ops
[16:19] <alimj> lotuspsychje: Thanks
[16:21] <m4tic> wow, this channel was dead i forgot about it
[16:31] <zelozelos> is wine still the best option for running windows software?
[16:31] <crystalraven> zelozelos: yes
[16:31] <zelozelos> kewll, thanks ;)
[16:32] <zelozelos> i havent used ubuntu since version 10
[16:32] <crystalraven> zelozelos: i always use wine for windows software or games
[16:33] <zelozelos> do you play nvidea based games, i have the geforce 540m, last attempt to use the drivers was catastrophic, has that improved?
[16:34] <bp0> what is the name of the package for the clock/calendar indicator
[16:36] <zelozelos> i think its just indicator, or unity-indicator
[16:36] <networkSettings> hi
[16:36] <networkSettings> ok good EriC^^ is there
[16:36] <EriC^^> hi
[16:36] <bp0> maybe indicator-datetime
[16:37] <zelozelos> bp0, is it not showing up?
[16:37] <networkSettings> EriC^^: maybe you remember me, i was the guy who had problems setting up his ubuntu on a laptop
[16:37] <shlant> hi all. Anyone know why I am getting an email from cron  when it seems to be successful, and the email only has partial output? The command I am running is redirected to >/dev/null so I don't even know why I'm getting this output: https://gist.github.com/MrMMorris/fdfac7e9a517446b8571
[16:37] <bp0> zelozelos, no there is a bug, the times listed for calendar events are all off by 6 hours
[16:37] <networkSettings> EriC^^: so the problem right now is, that i can't move my mouse, and the display is locked to 640 px.
[16:38] <zelozelos> bp0, correct timezone?
[16:39] <Pici> shlant: you're probabably only redirecting stdout.  put > /dev/null 2>&1 on the end of you cron command to make it redirect stderr to the same location stdout is going (which is /dev/null)
[16:39] <zelozelos> i want the (meta package) for wine right?
[16:39] <bp0> zelozelos, my timezone is set correctly
[16:39] <shlant> Pici: someone else figures it out. I want 1>/dev/null so I only get stderr
[16:39] <EriC^^> networkSettings: what was your nickname before?
[16:39] <shlant> thnaks
[16:40] <zelozelos> bp0, sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[16:41] <networkSettings> EriC^^: that's the problem, i forgot it haha
[16:42] <bp0> well the time is set correctly, and the timezone is set correctly, everything else is fine, only the items listed in the indicator's menu (imported from gnome-calendar) are all off by 6 hours.
[16:43] <EriC^^> networkSettings: so what was your issue?
[16:43] <networkSettings> EriC^^: i can't use my mouse, and i can't change the display resolution.
[16:43] <EriC^^> i mean before that
[16:44] <networkSettings> EriC^^: oh. i had an alpha version of some weird linux distribution installed, but after installing ubuntu it booted into an initramfs shell
[16:45] <EriC^^> networkSettings: oh ok
[16:45] <bp0> something like this maybe: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1473068
[16:46] <EriC^^> networkSettings: try another graphics driver for the resolution problem
[16:46] <networkSettings> EriC^^: i don't have any network connection
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> networkSettings  then how are you here?
[16:48] <networkSettings> MonkeyDust: second pc
[16:51] <EriC^^> networkSettings: why don't you have a network connection? O.o
[16:51] <networkSettings> EriC^^: my lan adapter is destroyed and a wlan connection is not established yet
[16:53] <EriC^^> networkSettings: type connection in the dash and set it up
[16:53] <bekks> networkSettings: How is it "destroyed"?
[16:54] <networkSettings> bekks: i don't know, maybe the contact to the motherboard.
[16:54] <networkSettings> EriC^^: i don't know the difference between bssid, device mac adress and cloned mac adress
[16:54] <networkSettings> EriC^^: i tried it without those, but is says no connection found
[16:54] <EriC^^> networkSettings: type network in the dash
[16:55] <networkSettings> EriC^^: command not found
[16:55] <bekks> networkSettings: How do you know it is "destroyed"?
[16:55] <EriC^^> in the dash?
[16:55] <networkSettings> EriC^^: yes.
[16:56] <networkSettings> bekks: well because if i plug in the lan cable there is no connection. it works via wifi though
[16:56] <EriC^^> networkSettings: go to settings > network
[16:56] <networkSettings> EriC^^: did hat
[16:57] <jusri> hello
[16:57] <jusri> how r u guys
[16:57] <networkSettings> EriC^^: there is only the option to create a proxy
[16:57] <EriC^^> no wifi?
[16:57] <networkSettings> EriC^^: no.
[16:58] <jusri> anyone knows install debian on small laptop with 1ghz ?
[16:58] <EriC^^> networkSettings: type lspci | grep Wireless
[16:58] <xangua> jusri: this is the Ubuntu channel, not Debian
[16:59] <networkSettings> EriC^^: Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[17:01] <jusri> hhmm ok
[17:02] <EriC^^> networkSettings: try lspci -k | grep -A2
[17:02] <EriC^^> networkSettings: try lspci -k | grep -A2 Wireless
[17:03] <EriC^^> networkSettings: just write the kernel in use part
[17:03] <networkSettings> EriC^^: umm...
[17:04] <networkSettings> EriC^^: Subsystem? Ethernet controller?
[17:04] <EriC^^> try lspci -k | grep -A3 Wireless
[17:05] <networkSettings> EriC^^: now there's Network controller & Subsystem, and Ethernet controller & subsystem
[17:05] <EriC^^> oh
[17:05] <EriC^^> networkSettings: what about additional drivers in the dash?
[17:06] <networkSettings> EriC^^: only what i've told you
[17:06] <EriC^^> networkSettings: no wireless driver?
[17:06] <EriC^^> networkSettings: try sudo modprobe ath9k
[17:07] <networkSettings> EriC^^: error, couldn't open moddep file
[17:07] <damnshoes> exit
[17:08] <Otacon22> Can I add a ppa but tell apt that it should use the ppa excusively for a specific package? I don't want a random ppa to publish let's say a malicious libopenssl and me getting it installed when upgrading the system
[17:09] <EriC^^> networkSettings: type dpkg -l | grep $(uname -r)
[17:09] <EriC^^> does it say linux-image-extra
[17:10] <networkSettings> EriC^^: no output
[17:11] <nacc> Otacon22: yes, i think you can, with pinning
[17:11] <nacc> Otacon22: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto maybe
[17:11] <Otacon22> thank you
[17:11] <vikss> hi - does anyone have any ethical issues about using ubuntu?
[17:11] <markwalt> yikes.  10% packet loss on my home wifi.  Atsa-no-good
[17:11] <vikss> after the whole amazon lens scandel
[17:12] <xangua> !adlens | vikss
[17:12] <vikss> of course i know that ubottu
[17:12] <vikss> my issue is with the ethics of the company
[17:12] <vikss> the fact that they left the settings opt out
[17:12] <EriC^^> networkSettings: you need the linux-image extra files
[17:13] <EriC^^> networkSettings: type dpkg -l | grep linux-image-extra
[17:13] <nacc> vikss: i believe that is offtopic for this channel
[17:13] <vikss> why?
[17:13] <networkSettings> EriC^^: what of it do you need
[17:13] <vikss> this is a concern for me regarding ubuntu
[17:13] <EriC^^> networkSettings: do you get any linux-image-extra ones?
[17:13] <vikss> i was wondering if anyone else had the same concern
[17:13] <EriC^^> vikss: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:13] <nacc> vikss: this is a support channel, for technical issues
[17:14] <networkSettings> EriC^^: yes i do, linux-image-extra-3.19.0-25-generic
[17:14] <vikss> but this is not off topic
[17:14] <EriC^^> vikss: yes it is
[17:14] <markwalt> Dude, this is a channel for tech support
[17:14] <vikss> i disagree
[17:15] <endev15> For the support channel it is vikss, there is a channel for "offtopic" conversations. Use it.
[17:15] <EriC^^> networkSettings: ok, type uname -r
[17:15] <EriC^^> what do you get
[17:15] <markwalt> there's another channel for ethical discussions
[17:15] <vikss> i have usd it end
[17:15] <vikss> no one answers
[17:15] <networkSettings> EriC^^: 3.16.0-41-generic
[17:15] <markwalt> there's your answer then
[17:15] <EriC^^> networkSettings: ok, reboot the pc and hold shift to get grub
[17:15] <borei> hi all
[17:15] <EriC^^> you need to go to advanced > 3.19.0-25 kernel
[17:16] <vikss> im asking anyone here their opinion about it
[17:16] <EriC^^> and boot that one, the wifi might work
[17:16] <borei> for provisioning does ubuntu uses the same kickstart files like RH/CentOS ?
[17:16] <networkSettings> EriC^^: there is no 3.19.0-25, only 3.19.0-25-generic
[17:17] <nacc> borei: it mostly can ... but preseed is the formal style
[17:17] <EriC^^> networkSettings: ok :P
[17:17] <networkSettings> EriC^^: and that's the one 'm booting all the time
[17:17] <EriC^^> networkSettings: no you're not it in right now
[17:17] <borei> perfect !
[17:18] <networkSettings> EriC^^: still no wifi
[17:18] <nacc> borei: check the wiki to be sure, it does support some limited ks syntax
[17:18] <EriC^^> networkSettings: type uname -r
[17:19] <networkSettings> EriC^^: 3.16.0-41-generic
[17:19] <EriC^^> networkSettings: it didn't boot the 3.19.0-25 one
[17:20] <networkSettings> EriC^^: that's weird
[17:20] <EriC^^> type ls -l /boot/vmlinuz*
[17:20] <borei> nacc: for sure
[17:21] <borei> i have bunch generated by spacewalk, gonna try to feed them
[17:21] <networkSettings> EriC^^: 1 dir, vmlinuz-3.19.0-25-generic
[17:22] <borei> seems like missing features are not critical in my case.
[17:22] <EriC^^> networkSettings: something odd is going on
[17:23] <EriC^^> networkSettings: which ubuntu is this?
[17:23] <networkSettings> EriC^^: 14.04 i think
[17:23] <EriC^^> networkSettings: ok, type locate ath9k.ko
[17:23] <genii> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[17:24] <genii> Must be Utopic or Vivid
[17:24] <networkSettings> EriC^^: okay, /lib/modules/3.19.0-25-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k.ko
[17:25] <EriC^^> why's uname -r say 3.16
[17:25] <EriC^^> and not even in /boot
[17:26] <networkSettings> EriC^^: could it be that during the installation i forgot to choose "/" for the boot directory?
[17:27] <EriC^^> do you have 1 os on it?
[17:27] <networkSettings> EriC^^: yes.
[17:28] <EriC^^> type grep vmlinuz /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:28] <networkSettings> EriC^^: 3 files
[17:29] <EriC^^> 3.19 ?
[17:29] <networkSettings> EriC^^: all 3.19.0-25-generic
[17:29] <EriC^^> ok in the grub menu did it say 3.19?
[17:29] <Jakey3> how do i share a folder between users in the terminal
[17:29] <networkSettings> i don't remember safel but i think yes
[17:29] <Jakey3> i have added a group to the folder
[17:29] <EriC^^> networkSettings: are you typing uname -r on your current pc or the one you're trying to fix?
[17:30] <networkSettings> EriC^^: haha on the one i'm tring to fix of course
[17:30] <Jakey3> and set the permisions however only the originator can see the folder and contents inside
[17:30] <networkSettings> EriC^^: this one doesn't even have ubuntu
[17:30] <EriC^^> networkSettings: nothing else makes sense :D
[17:32] <EriC^^> networkSettings: try sudo depmod -a
[17:33] <networkSettings> EriC^^: no such file or directory, fatal, no such file or directory
[17:34] <Jakey3> how do i share a folder between users in the terminal. i have added a group to the folder and set the permisions however only the originator can see the folder and contents inside
[17:34] <EriC^^> networkSettings: is this a fresh install?
[17:34] <EriC^^> Jakey3: what permissions did you use?
[17:34] <networkSettings> EriC^^: if you mean have i formatted the hard drive, yes.
[17:35] <EriC^^> networkSettings: i mean you just recently installed it, nothings on it right?
[17:35] <Jakey3> EriC^^, drwxr-sr-x 3 root dev 4096 Feb 22 16:08 Projects
[17:35] <networkSettings> EriC^^: yeah
[17:35] <Jakey3> adamtest is part of dev group
[17:35] <Jakey3> but he cant see the projects folkder
[17:36] <Jakey3> *folder
[17:36] <EriC^^> Jakey3: did he log out and back in?
[17:36] <Jakey3> nope
[17:36] <Jakey3> will do
[17:36] <EriC^^> networkSettings: i'd reinstall
[17:36] <networkSettings> EriC^^: ok then
[17:37] <EriC^^> did you checksum the iso?
[17:37] <vikss> :) The OP k1l is a filthy c unt. :) his mother will die from breast cancer soon. S atan make this so :) his w h ore mother will be F UC KED in hell by jesus and the PrOpHeT Muhammad. they both F UCK pigs like her :) :)  The moderator k1l is a C U NT :)  :)㋛
[17:37] <vikss> _:) The OP k1l is a filthy c unt. :) his mother will die from breast cancer soon. S atan make this so :) his w h ore mother will be F UC KED in hell by jesus and the PrOpHeT Muhammad. they both F UCK pigs like her :) :)  The moderator k1l is a C U NT :)  :)㋛
[17:37] <vikss> ,.:) The OP k1l is a filthy c unt. :) his mother will die from breast cancer soon. S atan make this so :) his w h ore mother will be F UC KED in hell by jesus and the PrOpHeT Muhammad. they both F UCK pigs like her :) :)  The moderator k1l is a C U NT :)  :)㋛
[17:37] <vikss> BBL
[17:38] <alimj> tonyyarusso: Would you kindly take a look into question I asked in #ubuntu-ops?
[17:39] <networkSettings> EriC^^: well after booting from usb there suddenly is a wifi connection again...
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> !ops | vikss known spammer
[17:40] <Pici> lotuspsychje: really?
[17:40] <k1l> lotuspsychje: already done
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> oh didnt see above sorry
[17:40] <maxunu> Haii
[17:40] <Jakey3> EriC^^, didnt make a difference
[17:41] <maxuni> slm semua
[17:42] <maxuni> Drone`
[17:45] <Jakey3> how do i setup shared folders in ubuntu terminal between 2 users
[17:46] <Jakey3> i have a folder projects created by user1 with sub directories
[17:46] <Jakey3> i want user 2 to have access to them
[17:46] <Jakey3> ?
[17:46] <monsieur_h> What kind of access ?
[17:46] <Jakey3> to be able to read and to clone
[17:46] <Jakey3> as it for git
[17:46] <EriC^^> Jakey3: type id to see if he's in the group
[17:46] <purplefrog> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 on an Acer using a DVD.  It gets a kernel panic in rtl8821ae_rx_query_desc which I think is related to the motherboard wifi.  Is there a way I can work around this insanity to start installing Ubuntu?
[17:47] <Jakey3> he is in the group
[17:47] <EriC^^> can he see the project dir? ls -ld /path/to/project ?
[17:47] <Jakey3> no
[17:47] <EriC^^> networkSettings: cool
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> purplefrog: recent iso?
[17:48] <Jakey3> user2 cannot
[17:48] <purplefrog> I think it's a little old.  My boss has had it for some months.  It is 14.04
[17:48] <EriC^^> Jakey3: you need to give him rx to the dirs before project
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> purplefrog: can you try grabbing latest 14.04.4?
[17:48] <Jakey3> i need to do it recurrsively
[17:48] <Jakey3> for all the sub directories
[17:49] <EriC^^> the subdirs inside project?
[17:49] <EriC^^> you need to do it for the dirs leading up to project
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> purplefrog: another way could be disable mobo wifi and install with cable at first, then update
[17:49] <purplefrog> Well, I'm not using the wifi, but I don't think there's an option to disable motherboard wifi in the BIOS.  I'll check
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> purplefrog: if its for desktop use, you could test out 15.10 also
[17:52] <purplefrog> OK, I was using 14.04.1 .  I'll try a 14.04.4.
[17:53] <purplefrog> We want long-term stability.  The person who will be using this computer does NOT like to deal with environment sttuff that comes from stuff expiring.
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> purplefrog: ok stick to LTS and can you branch eth cable for install and enable updates during setup?
[17:57] <networkSettings> EriC^^: still the same problem
[17:57] <EriC^^> networkSettings: you installed and the wifi went away?
[17:57] <EriC^^> networkSettings: is it still uname -r 3.16?
[17:58] <networkSettings> EriC^^: exactly
[17:58] <EriC^^> networkSettings: boot the live usb
[17:58] <purplefrog> I already have the ethernet cable connected.  For some reason the install DVD wants to enable the wifi too.  The motherboard BIOS only has an option to disable onboard LAN (which would probably disable the wonky wifi AND the wired ethernet) .  We'll see if 14.04.4 can boot without panicing.
[17:59] <networkSettings> EriC^^: ok it's booting now
[17:59] <networkSettings> EriC^^: done
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> purplefrog: ok good luck mate
[18:00] <EriC^^> networkSettings: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:02] <networkSettings> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/3q3f
[18:02] <EriC^^> networkSettings: try sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[18:03] <networkSettings> EriC^^: okay, no output
[18:03] <pk> where can I get a detailed description of each file in the ubuntu system?
[18:04] <EriC^^> networkSettings: try " for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done "
[18:04] <networkSettings> without the quotes i guess
[18:04] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:04] <Bitnova> is anyone here at all familiar with NULLMAILER?
[18:05] <networkSettings> EriC^^: ok
[18:05] <networkSettings> EriC^^: still no output
[18:06] <EriC^^> networkSettings: type sudo chroot /mnt
[18:06] <networkSettings> EriC^^: ok
[18:07] <squinty> pk,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/    or apt-cache show <filename> for a couple of examples
[18:09] <EriC^^> networkSettings: ?
[18:09] <networkSettings> EriC^^: yeah what next
[18:09] <pk> ok thanks how do I log out of here?
[18:09] <EriC^^> ok
[18:09] <EriC^^> networkSettings: dpkg -l | grep "linux-image" | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:10] <squinty> pk, close your web browser tab?
[18:10] <networkSettings> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/nrwe
[18:11] <EriC^^> networkSettings: are the graphics good in the live usb?
[18:11] <networkSettings> EriC^^: yes they are
[18:11] <networkSettings> EriC^^: native resolution
[18:12] <squinty> pk, might want to consider using an irc client such as hexchat for further enquiries here and other channels.  quite a bit more versatile than using web browser webchat
[18:12] <EriC^^> networkSettings: ok, type lspci -k | grep -A2 "VGA\|Wireless"
[18:12] <EriC^^> networkSettings: ok, type lspci -k | grep -A2 "VGA\|Wireless" | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:13] <networkSettings> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/6ers
[18:15] <EriC^^> networkSettings: ok, type uname -r
[18:15] <networkSettings> EriC^^: 3.19
[18:15] <EriC^^> 25?
[18:15] <networkSettings> EriC^^: 3.19.0-25-generic
[18:15] <EriC^^> ok
[18:15] <EriC^^> apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic
[18:19] <networkSettings> EriC^^: okay done
[18:19] <EriC^^> networkSettings: dpkg -l | grep "linux-image" | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:20] <networkSettings> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/if28
[18:20] <EriC^^> nice
[18:20] <EriC^^> dpkg - l | grep linux-headers
[18:20] <EriC^^> is 77 there?
[18:21] <EriC^^> 79
[18:21] <networkSettings> yes
[18:21] <EriC^^> ok
[18:21] <EriC^^> type exit
[18:21] <EriC^^> then try rebooting
[18:21] <EriC^^> did you do that yet?
[18:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Or just type [ sudo reboot ]
[18:22] <EriC^^> cause there's one more thing
[18:22] <EriC^^> it can wait though
[18:22] <networkSettings> EriC^^: bad resolution, no wifi, no mouse
[18:22] <bq_> how to ls files without matching?
[18:22] <EriC^^> ok, open a terminal
[18:23] <Pici> bq_: what do you mean?
[18:23] <EriC^^> type sudo modprobe ath9k
[18:23] <EriC^^> like grep -v for ls
[18:23] <koocies> can anyone help with a steam issue?
[18:23] <networkSettings> EriC^^: error
[18:24] <EriC^^> networkSettings: you have to say more
[18:24] <bq_> Pici: say there are bunch of python files and other files. i want to list other files only
[18:24] <networkSettings> EriC^^: could not open file
[18:24] <nacc> bq_: ls | grep - v?
[18:24] <EriC^^> ok try locate ath9k.ko
[18:25] <networkSettings> EriC^^: /lib/modules/3.19.0-25-generic/kernel/...
[18:25] <Pici> bq_: ls by itself cannot do that. Either pipe through grep, or use find: find . -maxdepth 1 -not -name "*.py"
[18:25] <EriC^^> networkSettings: uname -r
[18:25] <networkSettings> EriC^^: 3.16
[18:25] <EriC^^> you need to boot into the 79 one
[18:25] <EriC^^> also is there a ath9k in a 3.13 dir?
[18:26] <EriC^^> *facepalm*
[18:26] <networkSettings> EriC^^: no i don't think so
[18:26] <networkSettings> EriC^^: sorry if you facepalm because of me haha
[18:26] <bq_> nacc: that does not work. find works.
[18:26] <EriC^^> networkSettings: how's 3.16 still loading
[18:26] <EriC^^> haha it's a mystery
[18:26] <nacc> bq_: `ls | grep -v` doesn't work? sorry for the typo (- v) above
[18:27] <Pantsu> don't parse ls
[18:27] <Pantsu> ever
[18:27] <bq_> nacc: that greps file content not filename
[18:27] <Pantsu> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs
[18:27] <Pantsu> use find or extended globbing
[18:27] <bq_> find works.
[18:27] <nacc> Pantsu: agreed
[18:28] <nacc> bq_: no it doesn't, but whatever, glad you found a solution
[18:28] <EriC^^> networkSettings: try to boot into the 3.13 one
[18:28] <Pantsu> echo !(*.py)
[18:28] <Pantsu> (requires extglob)
[18:28] <networkSettings> EriC^^: ok it's booting now
[18:28] <bq_> nacc: try yourself and see
[18:29] <networkSettings> EriC^^: native resolution already
[18:29] <EriC^^> nice
[18:29] <networkSettings> eric mouse works
[18:29] <networkSettings> EriC^^: and wifi
[18:29] <EriC^^> :D
[18:29] <EriC^^> nice
[18:29] <Pantsu> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/glob see the bit about extglob
[18:29] <MBach> someone has an idea to link 2 "external" PPA together?
[18:29] <networkSettings> EriC^^: last think is to set it as default boot? and maybe remove the 3.1
[18:29] <networkSettings> 6
[18:30] <Pantsu> other shells have a similar feature too
[18:30] <MBach> my PPA relies on another one, and the build fails on Launchpad, despite the option to add a dependency :/
[18:31] <EriC^^> networkSettings: yeah
[18:32] <EriC^^> networkSettings: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-generic-lts-vivid
[18:32] <EriC^^> networkSettings: type dpkg -l | grep lts | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:32] <EriC^^> there are other lts stuff too
[18:33] <networkSettings> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/n89j
[18:33] <trism> MBach: are you sure the problem is the dep? can we see the build log?
[18:34] <MBach> sure trism
[18:34] <MBach> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/242260729/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.miam-player_0.8.0~git20160223.b1b887e~wily_BUILDING.txt.gz
[18:34] <MBach> in the end: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lQtAV
[18:34] <EriC^^> networkSettings: ok, type sudo apt-get purge linux-generic-lts-vivid
[18:35] <networkSettings> EriC^^: one moment
[18:35] <MBach> maybe I made a mistake (here is the source for building the deb for launchpad: https://github.com/MBach/Miam-Player/tree/master/debian)
[18:36] <networkSettings> EriC^^: sudo apt-get update is running
[18:37] <MBach> if I use ./debian/ubuntu.sh or sbuild in Miam-Player, I have the same result: a failure :s
[18:39] <MBach> hmm... however the command "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/wbsecg1/qtav/ubuntu wily main" seems to be correct
[18:39] <MBach> (on top of the log file)
[18:40] <networkSettings> EriC^^: wow it takes years
[18:43] <trism> MBach: I see the problem, in your debian/control, you put qtav-dev in the Deps, not in the Build-Deps
[18:43] <Whitor> Hi all, 14.04 here... It used to be (in 12.04) that if you clicked on an icon in the side bar, it would bring the application to the foreground... if you clicked again, or if the window was already in the foreground, it would minimize it. Is there anyway to turn this behavior back on? I was hoping to see it in 16.04, but (based on the beta) it looks like it's not there either. (at least by default)
[18:43] <trism> MBach: so it isn't being installed on the buildd
[18:43] <cortexman> i'm trying to get Terminal to take up the width of both monitors, full screen
[18:43] <networkSettings> EriC^^: ok it's done
[18:43] <trism> MBach: you shouldn't have to add any of those packages to the deps, that's what the shlibs:Depends does, figures it out
[18:44] <MBach> you are probably right
[18:44] <MBach> I'll try to figure it out
[18:45] <networkSettings> EriC^^: was that it?
[18:45] <EriC^^> networkSettings: no, you have to remove all the lts stuff
[18:45] <trism> MBach: just appending , qtav-dev to the line 6 of https://github.com/MBach/Miam-Player/blob/master/debian/control should fix it
[18:45] <networkSettings> EriC^^: so?
[18:46] <trism> MBach: probabaly also want to remove the unneeded libs from line 13 (at least qtav-dev anyway since you probably don't want users installing the headers)
[18:46] <MBach> I have tried various permutations :)
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> Whitor  iirc, minimizing by clicking on the the was never an option ... i guess it was made possible with a ppa
[18:47] <MBach> in random mode
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> on the icon*
[18:47] <networkSettings> EriC^^: umm it actually removed linux-generic-vivid (3.19.0.25.12)
[18:47] <EriC^^> networkSettings: 1 sec
[18:48] <EriC^^> networkSettings: sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-vivid xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-vivid libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-vivid:amd64 libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-vivid:amd64 libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid:amd64
[18:49] <networkSettings> EriC^^: wf
[18:49] <EriC^^> lol
[18:49] <networkSettings> EriC^^: what
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> Whitor  in unity, you have to roll the middle mouse button over the opened icon
[18:49] <EriC^^> networkSettings: paste it and get the link on the other pc
[18:50] <networkSettings> EriC^^: doesn't work...
[18:51] <EriC^^> what's it say
[18:51] <enoch> hi all
[18:51] <networkSettings> EriC^^: it's hard to translate
[18:51] <EriC^^> hi
[18:51] <enoch> I'm trying to chroot an user for sftp
[18:51] <EriC^^> add LANG=C before it
[18:51] <EriC^^> networkSettings: ^
[18:52] <San_Zec> ^
[18:52] <enoch> when i try to log-in i get: protocol error: mtime.sec not present
[18:52] <San_Zec> Ola
[18:52] <EriC^^> ola
[18:52] <squinty> Whitor,  install ubuntu-tweak -> Appearance -> Desktop -> Unity
[18:52] <cortexman> i'm trying to get Terminal to take up the width of both monitors, full screen. ideally i could persist that state and it would open that way every time
[18:53] <squinty> Whitor, Launcher click to minimize app
[18:53] <networkSettings> EriC^^: unable to locate package libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid
[18:53] <EriC^^> networkSettings: ok remove it from the list
[18:55] <networkSettings> EriC^^: the following packages have unmet dependencies: unity-control-center: depends libcheese-gtk23, libcheese7
[18:55] <EriC^^> ugh
[18:55] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get -f install
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> networkSettings  what happened, that makes you system so unusable?
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> your*
[18:57] <networkSettings> EriC^^: the following packages won't be required anymore
[18:57] <networkSettings> ...
[18:57] <networkSettings> MonkeyDust: new, clean installation
[18:57] <EriC^^> networkSettings: LANG=C sudo apt-get -f install | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:58] <networkSettings> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/6bfp
[18:58] <max3> is there a way to use one require directive for all apache2(.4) directories?
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> max3  ask in #ubuntu-server
[18:59] <EriC^^> networkSettings: LANG=C sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:00] <networkSettings> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/4yna
[19:00] <EriC^^> networkSettings: LANG=C sudo apt-get install libcheese7 | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:01] <networkSettings> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/s7be
[19:03] <EriC^^> networkSettings: try dpkg -l | grep "xserver\|glx" | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:03] <EriC^^> !info libcheese7 trusty
[19:04] <networkSettings> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/2thz
[19:04] <EriC^^> networkSettings: try export LANG=C; apt-cache policy libcheese7 | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:05] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic-lts-vivid
[19:05] <networkSettings> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/w0ma
[19:05] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic-lts-vivid trusty
[19:06] <mg983> I have a question it may be more a basic linux question. If I log in as user, for example joseph using SSH authentication. Then I run sudo su - it asks for my password. Does that mean that  joseph is not in the sudoers file?
[19:06] <EriC^^> networkSettings: try apt-cache policy libcheese-gtk23 | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:06] <EriC^^> mg983: type id
[19:07] <mg983> uid=1003(tprprorep) gid=1003(tprprorep) groups=1003(tprprorep)
[19:07] <EriC^^> not in sudo group
[19:07] <EriC^^> type sudo -l
[19:07] <mg983> asks for my PW
[19:07] <networkSettings> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/zees
[19:07] <EriC^^> type it
[19:07] <mg983> i dont have my password
[19:07] <mg983> that's my issue
[19:08] <EriC^^> so you want to reset it?
[19:08] <mg983> not necessarily
[19:08] <mg983> im trying to figure out this pattern in ubuntu
[19:08] <mg983> EriC^^: if I were in the sudoers file could I sudo su - without typing my password?
[19:09] <mg983> sorry
[19:09] <mg983> sudo group
[19:09] <mg983> instead of sudoers file
[19:09] <EriC^^> mg983: no, unless you have NOPASSWD set
[19:09] <EriC^^> sudo group or sudoers file same thing
[19:09] <mg983> gotcha
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> mg983  but you need your password to unset yoour password with visudo
[19:09] <mg983> yup
[19:09] <mg983> i know this
[19:09] <EriC^^> sudo -l lists any commands you have in the sudoers file that you can run
[19:10] <EriC^^> networkSettings: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic-lts-vivid
[19:13] <networkSettings> EriC^^: ok done
[19:13] <EriC^^> networkSettings: ok, type dpkg -l | grep lts | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:14] <EriC^^> also see if apt-get install is working somehow
[19:14] <EriC^^> try installing something
[19:14] <networkSettings> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/534q
[19:14] <purplefrog> Switching from 14.04.1 to 14.04.4 install ISO solved the problem with the kernel panic.
[19:15] <EriC^^> networkSettings: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:15] <networkSettings> EriC^^: i'll better termbin this
[19:16] <EriC^^> ok
[19:16] <networkSettings> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/lxss
[19:16] <EriC^^> networkSettings: yeah, run sudo apt-get autoremove
[19:16] <EriC^^> it has the 3.19.0-55 kernel now
[19:17] <EriC^^> which might work
[19:17] <EriC^^> 51 kernel
[19:17] <networkSettings> ok done
[19:17] <EriC^^> networkSettings: ok, is installing working?
[19:18] <networkSettings> EriC^^: well unity-tweak-tool was installed without any problems
[19:18] <EriC^^> networkSettings: ok, try rebooting
[19:19] <networkSettings> EriC^^: still running fine
[19:19] <EriC^^> cool
[19:20] <EriC^^> 51 kernel?
[19:20] <networkSettings> EriC^^: yes
[19:20] <EriC^^> ok
[19:21] <networkSettings> awesome
[19:23] <networkSettings> EriC^^: thanks a lot. the 3rd time you helped me out ;))
[19:23] <networkSettings> EriC^^: (even though you probably don't remember it)
[19:23] <EriC^^> networkSettings: no problem :)
[19:31] <linuxthefish> hey, where can i find a sources.list for 13.10? old-releases.ubuntu.com isn't working anymore
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> linuxthefish: 13.10 is end of life
[19:32] <k1l> linuxthefish: you should update asap.
[19:33] <k1l> 13.10 doesnt get updates since some years now. that is a real insecure system. update to 14.04 asap-
[19:33] <zukivi> HELLO.
[19:33] <lotuspsychje> zukivi: what can we do for you?
[19:34] <zukivi> nothing really, just wanted to chat a bit
[19:34] <linuxthefish> i can't install update-manager-core to upgrade though :p
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> zukivi: there's an offtopic channel @ #ubuntu-offtopic if you like :p
[19:34] <zukivi> Ah I see, nice
[19:34] <zukivi> Thank you
[19:34] <k1l> linuxthefish: honestly i would think about making a clean 14.04 install.
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> zukivi: or #ubuntu-discuss for ubuntu chat
[19:35] <zukivi> naah I'm not a nerd
[19:35] <pujan> hi guys
[19:36] <zukivi> hey pujan
[19:36] <pujan> supp
[19:36] <zukivi> what distro of ubuntu you like best?
[19:36] <pujan> 14.4
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> zukivi: please only ubuntu support questions here
[19:37] <pujan> all bc bye
[19:37] <pujan> leave
[19:37] <linuxthefish> ah my dedicated server provider dosn't support 14.10 fresh installs :(
[19:38] <k1l> linuxthefish: 14.04
[19:38] <fragske> hi there, is there someone that can help me by telling me how to update forked-daapd on LTS 14.04?
[19:39] <fragske> the default package doesn't seem to be working :(
[19:39] <k1l> linuxthefish: 14.04 is LTS and got 5 years support timeframe. if you vps provider doesnt support the actual ubuntu LTS release, then its not a good one.
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> fragske: whats the error on the one from repos?
[19:40] <fragske> well, I don't get an error but my daap share isn't showing
[19:40] <numb3r> if your dedicated does not support fresh install you can virtualize it
[19:40] <fragske> and when i tail the log file, it spams something with ffmpeg error
[19:40] <fragske> tried googling it so far, no real help
[19:40] <fragske> been trying to fix it for the last week or so
[19:41] <fragske> and there doesn't seem to be a ppa for it
[19:41] <crippa> hello. Is there any cool speech recognition SW out there for ubuntu? Something that is always on and detect when you're speaking to it?
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> fragske: well its recommended to use package versions, for your ubuntu version can you pastebin us the tail?
[19:41] <fragske> sure hang on
[19:42] <fragske> http://pastebin.com/3hhZQbUL
[19:43] <fragske> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2220225 and here they say that packaged version has a bug
[19:46] <fragske> do i have to use the ubuntu paste thingy?
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> fragske: this looks similar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/forked-daapd/+bug/1370093
[19:47] <severalwordtraps> Hello everyone
[19:48] <fragske> that's why I want to update it to a newer version
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> fragske: if it affects you too, can you add your experience to the existing bug?
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> severalwordtraps: welcome, how can we help you?
[19:48] <fragske> no real other experience then the same problem
[19:49] <severalwordtraps> lotuspsychje: I've just installed Ubuntu for the very first time, and everything was doing fine 'till I tried to install proprietary drivers for my grafic card
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> fragske: adding the pastebin could be usefull, to get attention on the bug
[19:49] <severalwordtraps> lotuspsychje: a Nvidia Geforce GT440
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> severalwordtraps: ubuntu version?
[19:49] <fragske> perhaps i can try to dist-upgrade , but I don't have any good exeperiences with that :)
[19:49] <severalwordtraps> lotuspsychje: 15.10
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> severalwordtraps: ok and what your driver version active?
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> severalwordtraps: can you check the additional drivers section, whats in your list?
[19:52] <severalwordtraps> lotuspsychje: I installed the last one available in additional drivers section, but it always gave me an error
[19:52] <severalwordtraps> lotuspsychje: so I dowloaded from the page and installed it manually in a X terminal
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> severalwordtraps: download what from where?
[19:53] <severalwordtraps> lotuspsychje: last version of Nvidia drivier from Nvidia page
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> severalwordtraps: hmm, can you go check additional drivers list please, tell me what you see
[19:54] <severalwordtraps> lotuspsychje: sadly i can't 'cause now i'm not able to enter Ubuntu.
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> severalwordtraps: try the recoverymode/terminal sudo apt-get purge nvidia
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> !recoverymode | severalwordtraps
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | severalwordtraps
[19:56] <severalwordtraps> lotuspsychje: ok. Only, i think i have to tell you: i modified /etc/fstab writing in every device (/sdb3 and /sdb6) "nofail"
[19:56] <severalwordtraps> lotuspsychje: 'cause i read that the boot problem could be realted to a missing drive, although i haven't disconnected anything
[19:57] <severalwordtraps> lotuspsychje:Also, after the first change (only sdb3), Ubuntu did start
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> severalwordtraps: i assume the boot troubles arised when you tried nvidia driver
[19:57] <severalwordtraps> lotuspsychje: But when i typed the user and passphrase, the screen tilted and asked me for user and pass again
[19:58] <severalwordtraps> lotuspsychje: Should i just try the get-apt purge... ?
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> severalwordtraps: yes if you can
[19:58] <severalwordtraps> lotuspsychje: thanks mate, i'm gonna try it now
[19:58] <BluesKaj> severalwordtraps, the drivers from the nvidia website work for a while until kernel modules are updated and upgraded, then that driver is left behind in the dust, and sometimes they won';t work at all from the start
[19:59] <phasor> how can i install ruby1.8? running trusty thar, trying to get a legacy rails app set up
[19:59] <Bashing-om> severalwordtraps: lotuspsychje Maybe do this the Nvidia way ? ' sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*" ' .
[20:00] <severalwordtraps> BluesKay: so do i have to stick just with the default driver?
[20:00] <phasor> to avoid confusion, i'm trying to set up a rails 2.3 app with apache and passenger
[20:00] <severalwordtraps> Bashing-om: From that command on, do the screen guide me forward? I can try that after purge Nvidia
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> phasor: its recommended to stick to package versions for your ubuntu version
[20:01] <BluesKaj> no severalwordtraps, there are nvidia drivers in the ubuntu repositories what are configged to work
[20:01] <phasor> lotuspsychje: if i used an older linux distro would i get access to ruby1.8?
[20:01] <phasor> err, older version i mean
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> phasor: install a higher ubuntu version
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> !latest | phasor
[20:02] <severalwordtraps> BluesKaj: those that appeared to me in additional drivers, in proprietary drivers, could those be the ones?
[20:02] <Bashing-om> severalwordtraps: If this is a OEM driver install .. and that ^ file exists .. there is a uninstall tool to remove the proprietary driver gracefully .
[20:02] <BluesKaj> severalwordtraps, yes, exactly
[20:03] <phasor> sure, i can update ubuntu, but how would that give me ruby1.8? apt-caches only shows 1.9
[20:03] <BluesKaj> severalwordtraps, there's usually oner that's recommended for your gpu , choose that one\
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> phasor: wich ubuntu are you on? and whats the specific packagename?
[20:04] <severalwordtraps> BluesKaj, great! I'm gonna try both ways now, purge and the "Nvidia way", if i can figure out one
[20:04] <aq2_> How can i get network working in chroot?
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> !info ruby precise | phasor this what you looking for?
[20:05] <aq2_> Hmm
[20:05] <aq2_> !chroot
[20:05] <MBach> trism: yeah, it worked > https://launchpad.net/~bachelier-matthieu/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[20:05] <MBach> thank you very much
[20:05] <Bashing-om> severalwordtraps: BluesKaj If ya "purge" the Nvidia way will no longer be an option .
[20:06] <BluesKaj> severalwordtraps,don't purge
[20:06] <aq2_> My problem is that my /etc/resolv.conf is a symbolic link to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[20:06] <phasor> lotuspsychje: 14.04 LTS, ruby1.8
[20:06] <aq2_> and copying that didnt help any
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> phasor: youl have to install precise for that ruby version, aka 12.04
[20:07] <BluesKaj> severalwordtraps, thee's no need , nvidia will remove the existing driver duriong the installation of the new driver
[20:07] <phasor> lotuspsychje: ok, i'll try that. thanks
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> phasor: mixing versions would scramble your system
[20:08] <phasor> yeah i don't need more hiccups than i'm already going to get from this app
[20:09] <BluesKaj> Bashing-om, never used the "nvidia way", we don't see that method on Kubuntu
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> phasor: just keep in mind, one day youl have to upgrade to higher ubuntu version anyway
[20:10] <xangua> And that day will be a year from now
[20:10] <aq2_> anyone?
[20:10] <severalwordtraps> haha, BluesKaj, Bashin-om, what do i do then? I really don't know almost nothing about Linux, and just today i'm starting to learning about the terminal
[20:10] <severalwordtraps> shell*
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> aq2_: best to re-ask once in a while in one line and be patient :p
[20:11] <phasor> lotuspsychje: that depends on the client, hopefully they'll upgrade sooner rather than later
[20:11] <Bashing-om> BluesKaj: " ./Nvidiawhatever.run --uninstall " If the OEM install completed .
[20:11] <BluesKaj> severalwordtraps, like I mentioned above , indtalling the new driver will remove the existing one
[20:12] <BluesKaj> installing even
[20:12] <severalwordtraps> Blueskaj, and from the shell, how do I install new drivers for the G Card?
[20:13] <m00tykins> hey all
[20:13] <Bashing-om> severalwordtraps: Well, not to know is not a sin .. upfront however, my experience with 15.10 is limited .. 15.10 is the new systemd initiate system .
[20:14] <m00tykins> I just put lubuntu on my laptop and I really hate lxde now
[20:14] <m00tykins> I want to switch it to enlightenment but how would I remove gnome, openbox, lxde and kde without blowing up my OS?
[20:15] <m00tykins> (The software I want to use doesn't have gnome/kde/x11 dependencies
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> severalwordtraps: you can check the drivernames from recoverymode/terminal with ubuntu-drivers
[20:17] <severalwordtraps> lotuspsychje: so i write down " ubuntu-drivers", find a matching driver for the G Card, and the write down its name?
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> m00tykins: you need a bse ubuntu, you can just run enlightment
[20:18] <m00tykins> bse?
[20:18] <m00tykins> base?
[20:18] <severalwordtraps> Well, i'm gonna keep trying now
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> m00tykins: wich ubuntu did you install at first?
[20:18] <severalwordtraps> Thanks everyone
[20:19] <BluesKaj> severalwordtraps,  which OEM driver did you install ?
[20:19] <m00tykins> lotuspsychje: lubuntu 14.04.1
[20:19] <severalwordtraps> BluesKaj: I'm not sure, but i think it could be 361.91?
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> m00tykins: keep lubuntu as base, and install enlightment then use logout/login
[20:20] <Bashing-om> severalwordtraps: CLI method to install drivers : ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices ; sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' If you like what you see then ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . On a clean purged driver situation .
[20:20] <BluesKaj> severalwordtraps, the ubuntu driver for your gpu is the nvidia-340
[20:20] <aq2_> Awesome!
[20:20] <aq2_> i got the networking working
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> aq2_: what did the trick?
[20:21] <aq2_> I didnt do anything to the file
[20:21] <severalwordtraps> BluesKaj, excellent. Now i'm gonna try it. Thanks!
[20:21] <aq2_> Because it was already configured for connecting to my ethernet
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> m00tykins: also update your system to latest 14.04.4 for security reasons
[20:22] <m00tykins> lotuspsychje: what about reinstalling x11? and already done, just answering what I started with
[20:22] <aq2_> Im doing all this because i had internet issues... so i removed my network manager and then realized that i cant download it without already having it installed
[20:22] <aq2_> and my other computers are 32-bit
[20:22] <ribot> hi, suppose someone unauthorized has done a poison nullbyte attack from my ubuntu server, how can i prevent such abuse of the ubuntu server?
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> ribot: ubuntu version?
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> m00tykins: if you remove lubuntu, your gonna ask for troubles
[20:24] <aq2_> Alright let me reboot and see if my internet works :)
[20:24] <ribot> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> m00tykins: if you dont like lubuntu, install something else as base then enlightment over it
[20:24] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[20:24] <OnkelTem> How to run Google Earth on Ubuntu 14.04? Seems like it's deadly broken
[20:24] <m00tykins> so I'd need to reinstall the whole os?
[20:25] <OnkelTem> it's crashing every time
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> ribot: mauby the the #ubuntu-server channel, what security measures you can take more then be up to date
[20:26] <aq2> Everything works!
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> !usn | ribot
[20:26] <k1l> m00tykins: remove the lubuntu meta packages. then install enlightment package.
[20:27] <BluesKaj> OnkelTem, install lsb-core
[20:27] <OnkelTem> BluesKaj: I have it installed
[20:28] <m00tykins> ok, so not an os reinstall, just a long time waiting for apt to finish?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> OnkelTem, hmm , that's usually the problem with google earth
[20:30] <BluesKaj> OnkelTem, look in /var/log/syslog to see what's crashing it
[20:31] <OnkelTem> BluesKaj: nothing is there :-(
[20:32] <m00tykins> Is that correct?
[20:33] <k1l> m00tykins: not very long
[20:33] <severalwordtraps> BluesKaj, i tried ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall', and got this:
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> m00tykins: i can only speak for my experience, last time ive tested enlightment on 14.04 it was bit unstable and i was happy to fallback to unity again
[20:34] <severalwordtraps> BluesKaj, W: Not using locking for read only look file /var/lib/dpkg/lock; E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt ; E: THe package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[20:34] <aq2> severalwordtraps: Does apt-get update work?
[20:35] <m00tykins> k1l: can I do this from lxde, or do I need to do it from another de?
[20:35] <severalwordtraps> aq2, didn't tried it
[20:35] <k1l> m00tykins: you can do this while using lubuntu
[20:35] <aq2> Because sounds like your dpkg is broken
[20:35] <k1l> severalwordtraps: look at dmesg. is that hdd ro mounted due to errors?
[20:37] <m00tykins> ok, ty. lotuspsychje : my goal is to use it only to run terminology, since it's my fave terminal and, if enlightenment is set up correctly, does not need x11
[20:37] <m00tykins> I want a cli-only system
[20:37] <crippa> is there a sphinxbase and pocketsphinx packages for ubuntu? how are they called?
[20:37] <severalwordtraps> k1l, I remember having see at /etc/fstab  that  sdb3 had an error. I wrote down on it "nofail"
[20:38] <severalwordtraps> aq2, so that's the entire line, right? 'apt-get update'
[20:38] <m00tykins> but terminology allows lots of really cool features, like playing video or music within the window
[20:38] <m00tykins> and having an animated background
[20:38] <aq2> severalwordtraps: Yes if you're logged in as root, otherwise sudo apt-get update
[20:38] <severalwordtraps> aq2, Ok, i'm going in again!
[20:43] <trism> MBach: excellent
[20:45] <cortexman> i'm trying to get Terminal to take up the width of both monitors, full screen. ideally i could persist that state and it would open that way every time
[20:54] <MBach> trism: have a look ;) http://miam-player.org/images/posts/miam-player_0.8.0_ubuntu_1.png and http://miam-player.org/images/posts/miam-player_0.8.0_ubuntu_2.png
[20:54] <yohan> Hi I m new here
[20:54] <bekks> MBach: Looks like Amarok on GTK :P
[20:56] <MBach> probably, but mine is way much faster and fully customizable :)
[20:56] <Bashing-om> yohan: Welcome, and new to ubuntu ?
[20:56] <yohan> Yes New to everything
[20:56] <yohan> Thanks Bashing-om:
[20:57] <bekks> MBach: Faster. So it plays music at double speed? :P
[20:57] <Bashing-om> !manual | yohan
[20:57] <MBach> bekks: haha, you can open a pull request, maybe I will implement it
[20:57] <bekks> MBach: :D
[20:58] <yohan> thanks | Bashing-om
[21:00] <Bashing-om> yohan: :) We are here to help you on your way .
[21:04] <ralpheeee> o/...does networkmanager have ncurses
[21:04] <ralpheeee> i thought it was nmtui but it does not work
[21:05] <bekks> ralpheeee: there is nm-cli
[21:05] <bekks> or nmcli, I dont remember the exact name.
[21:05] <ralpheeee> bekks: ok cool..thxs
[21:06] <ralpheeee> thinking of running just i3wm so just coveting some ground work
[21:07] <ralpheeee> have not tried wicd in ages...so might give that a whirl as well
[21:09] <consolejazz> hello. regarding some basic sysadmin -- what's difference/advantage/disadvantage of wanting to assign sudo permissions to non-root user by adding them to `wheel` group vs the `sudo` group?
[21:10] <synthor> wheel group? never heard
[21:10] <bekks> consolejazz: What is the advantage of having a second user who possibly may break your system?
[21:12] <ralpheeee> bekks: what DE you running?
[21:12] <bekks> ralpheeee: I dont have a particular preference, why?
[21:12] <k1l> consolejazz: ubuntu got a sudo setup. with using the sudo group.
[21:13] <consolejazz> what's th sudo user's default name? `ubuntu`?
[21:13] <consolejazz> i leave root alone and then create at least one additional `sudo` non-root user
[21:14] <consolejazz> with a non-default username :)
[21:14] <EriC^^> consolejazz: it's whatever user you added during the install
[21:14] <k1l> consolejazz: its the user you created. any user can become "sudo user" by putting him into the sudo group
[21:14] <k1l> consolejazz: you seem to be confused by root and sudo.
[21:14] <synthor> yeah, i don't get his problem..question
[21:14] <ralpheeee> i cant make my mind up what terminal emulator to use for my setup with i3 urxvt font issues drives me nuts, exce4-terminal, too many dependencies...terminator heacy on resources...lxterminal was never impressed with it....
[21:14] <consolejazz> bekks: i'm running nginx instance and will host a couple sites, creating a new user per site
[21:15] <consolejazz> for isolation and security
[21:15] <synthor> you also could create a group called wheel and let all their users be sudoers..?!
[21:15] <consolejazz> that's why
[21:15] <synthor> nginx user with sudo permissions?!
[21:15] <synthor> wtf. don't do that!
[21:15] <bekks> consolejazz: And why do you want thme to have sudo access?
[21:15] <consolejazz> k1l: not confused. i was asking what the difference betwen `wheel` and `sudo` groups was
[21:16] <consolejazz> which no one's yet answered (i don't think)
[21:16] <bekks> consolejazz: wheel is used on debian, sudo is used on Ubuntu.
[21:16] <bekks> consolejazz: Ubuntu uses sudo with the sudo group.
[21:16] <synthor> thx bekks!
[21:16] <synthor> never seen a wheel group on debian
[21:16] <consolejazz> centos as well right? (`wheel`, that is)
[21:16] <bekks> consolejazz: centos uses wheel, too.
[21:16] <ralpheeee> wheel def on arch
[21:17] <k1l> consolejazz: ubuntu doesnt use wheel group. that is what people try to tell you
[21:17] <consolejazz> bekks: granting the website-based user initial sudo permissions
[21:17] <bekks> consolejazz: Do not do that. Dont. Ever.
[21:17] <synthor> don't do that
[21:17] <consolejazz> during setup process, before anything's live, then revoking the rights
[21:17] <synthor> NONONONONO
[21:17] <synthor> NEVERRRR
[21:17] <synthor> please
[21:17] <bekks> consolejazz: A webserber user should never have sudo permissions.
[21:17] <k1l> consolejazz: that seems to be a thing on other unix but not on debian or ubuntu.
[21:17] <consolejazz> sorry, why? i want them to own certain processes
[21:18] <bekks> consolejazz: They dont need sudo to own processes.
[21:18] <consolejazz> i said i would revoke their sudo rights after setup
[21:18] <Lynoure> I cannot find yet anything on CVE-2016-0787 for Ubuntu. Is it under works?
[21:18] <synthor> you don't need sudo/root for that
[21:18] <consolejazz> oh
[21:18] <bekks> consolejazz: sudo is used for getting root access.
[21:18] <k1l> consolejazz: you start the webserver with root permissions but the server as such is run as another user. the www-data user
[21:18] <synthor> just add the user too www-data group
[21:18] <roygbiv> hey everybody, ubuntu newb here. i need to install virtualbox but i’m only wanting to use it with vagrant. is there a minimal vbox install i can get? right now apt-get wants to install X, Qt, a bunch of libs and docs, etc., 281 MB of stuff.
[21:18] <consolejazz> yes, so i want to install some software as those (initial) sudo permitted users
[21:18] <bekks> roygbiv: Then you need to install all those requirements.
[21:18] <synthor> what u want to install?
[21:18] <roygbiv> bekks, that’s what i was afraid of
[21:18] <consolejazz> so they'd automatically own the processes too. then once all's setup, revoke the rights
[21:19] <consolejazz> synthor: i dunno yet :)
[21:19] <bekks> consolejazz: if you dont know, you dont need it.
[21:19] <consolejazz> i'm just getting in to www servers
[21:19] <synthor> sry, but that sounds so nonsense
[21:19] <bekks> consolejazz: a webserver user shall not have sudo permissions. Never.
[21:19] <bekks> consolejazz: There is literally no sane reason for doing that.
[21:19] <synthor> just create a user, add him to www-data group, and run an nginx instance for him
[21:20] <synthor> never give them root/sudo access
[21:20] <synthor> NEVER
[21:20] <consolejazz> nginx creates www-data group by default right? i'm confused by that naming convention because there's also a user `www-data` created? or is that for apache?
[21:20] <k1l> consolejazz: www-data is user and group.
[21:21] <synthor> if you need to install/Create stuff. you simply write shellscripts or python/perl, what you like and run this script with root privileges. this will do all neccessary steps of your config and that was it
[21:21] <k1l> every user got an own group
[21:21] <k1l> but that www-data user is nologin. which makes sense since you dont want someone to login on your system with that account
[21:21] <synthor> :D
[21:21] <synthor> fo sure
[21:22] <synthor> /bin/false to everyone
[21:22] <synthor> greetings from shellshock
[21:24] <joehogan_> Hello
[21:24] <consolejazz> nologin for `ssh` or what services exactly?
[21:24] <consolejazz> thanks for the help guys
[21:24] <joehogan_> Looking to findhelp with Ubuntu install that is very slow.
[21:24] <retrojeff> 16.04 xenial is so close to release
[21:24] <k1l> consolejazz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Nginx
[21:24] <joehogan_> 2 proc  4 core total 2.8GHz each.   Using on AGP card (I think) on a dell machine.
[21:24] <retrojeff> synaptic package manager still has lots of bugs that need fixing
[21:25] <k1l> consolejazz: and you start the nginx service with upstart services. and not manually.
[21:25] <Ben64> retrojeff: you should talk about that in #ubuntu+1
[21:25] <joehogan_> From what I readon the net, if I can change my graphic card, I will not have a SLOW desktop experience
[21:25] <Lynoure> Ah, it seems CVE-2016-0787 is conflated with another CVE at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-0739.html
[21:25] <k1l> retrojeff: then go to #ubuntu+1 and file bugs and help fixing. that would be helping
[21:26] <Ben64> joehogan_: what video card do you have now
[21:26] <retrojeff> it wont let me join ubuntu+1
[21:27] <joehogan_> Ben64, a NVIDIA  Code i see is: 180-P00009-0000-Co3
[21:27] <joehogan_> at the end it is a 003
[21:27] <joehogan_> does thi shelp?  It is an old dell machine I found awhile back.
[21:27] <Ben64> joehogan_: run "lshw -c VIDEO" and paste the result at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:28] <m00tykins> ...but I did it while ubuntu was in legacy/csm mode
[21:28] <consolejazz> k1l: thanks
[21:29] <joehogan_> How do I find a terminal program on a fresh install of ubuntu?
[21:29] <abetterfish> retrojeff: Ubuntu 16.04? Didn't ubuntu 15.04 come out like 3 months ago?
[21:29] <abetterfish> joehogan_: What do you mean?
[21:29] <vlt> joehogan_: Ctrl+Alt+t
[21:29] <k1l> abetterfish: the release time is in the name
[21:29] <genii> abetterfish: No, April 2015
[21:30] <genii> (20)15.04(th month)
[21:30] <bekks> abetterfish: 15.04 was released in April 2015.
[21:31] <joehogan_> I iwll try.
[21:32] <joehogan_> I am using a different machine.  Th eSLOW video makes it unusable
[21:33] <bekks> joehogan_: AGP is an ancient technology ;)
[21:40] <joehogan_>  Ben64, pasted
[21:41] <joehogan_> bekks, turns out it is PCI, a leap in technology:)
[21:41] <Revian1> When I install a new app it doesnt appear in the unity menu until I log our and back in. Is this a known issue? Is there a way to resolve it?
[21:41] <Ben64> joehogan_: you need to give the link so we can see it
[21:41] <xangua> Revian1: yes, know issue in Willy
[21:42] <joehogan_> Just a sec...
[21:43] <dr_jamiryo> hi i got a problem with python
[21:43] <Guest60095> dr_jamiryo, this isnt a python support chan
[21:43] <joehogan_> paste.ubuntu.com/15183715/
[21:43] <dr_jamiryo> ok :)
[21:44] <Ben64> joehogan_: wow, no wonder. that card is ancient
[21:44] <joehogan_> Well, I have been a Mac person for years, and never dealt with video cards.
[21:44] <joehogan_> Can I buy a newer card that will work fine?  I am a true newbie here:)
[21:45] <bekks> joehogan_: Which hardware is that? A desktop pc, or something?
[21:45] <Ben64> based on the card, i'd have to guess that your whole computer is pretty ancient and slow
[21:45] <joehogan_> Dell desktop. Have 2 proc, and 4 cores, speed of 2.8 per core.
[21:45] <bekks> joehogan_: Which dell desktop?
[21:46] <joehogan_> What do you mean?  Model number?  I am not sure.  Let me look and see what I can find.
[21:47] <joehogan_> precision 450
[21:48] <bekks> joehogan_: then you have to look it up in the manual of that box wether and how you can upgrade it.
[21:49] <joehogan_> Ben64, I have the 2 page sheet on it.  It says that I can use:
[21:49] <joehogan_> A
[21:49] <joehogan_> TI Radeon VE 32MB, AGP 4X, available in Dual VGA and Dual DVI configurations
[21:49] <joehogan_> AT
[21:49] <joehogan_> I Fire GL E1 64MB, AGP 4X, Dual Monitor (VGA and DVI or two VGA)
[21:49] <joehogan_> nVidia Quadro4, 900XGL AGP 4X, 128MB, Dual Monitor (VGA and/or DVI)
[21:49] <Ben64> joehogan_: honestly, i think you'd be better off building/buying a new computer
[21:50] <Bitnova> hi guys, what happens if you have a few folders that are 'invisible' that route directly back to /   ?  like for example i type on this specific folder like so: /folder and it shows the contents of / DIR
[21:51] <genii> Something called /folder would be a directory called folder in the root, because of the leading /
[21:51] <Bitnova> yes but genii i do not see that folder
[21:51] <Bitnova> in the /
[21:51] <joehogan_> I was planning on using he old thing o rregular desktop use.   Too ld and slow?  The processors are speedy.
[21:51] <genii> Bitnova:  Use ls -l on it to see if it's some kind of symlink
[21:52] <Bitnova> OK
[21:52] <joehogan_> Maybe as a simple server, no more I guess.
[21:52] <cortexman> i'm trying to get Terminal to take up the width of both monitors, full screen. ideally i could persist that state and it would open that way every time
[21:53] <Bitnova> ok genii thanks. for some reason it wasnt refreshing in nautilus
[21:53] <Ben64> joehogan_: well you don't need a good gpu for a server
[21:53] <abetterfish> Whats the off topic channel?
[21:53] <Ben64> abetterfish: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:54] <abetterfish> Ben64: Thanks
[21:57] <Bitnova> genii, in my root folder i have a folder called root and it has a white cross on the folder, and i cant even cd into it
[21:58] <k1l> that is the root users home. you dont need that
[21:59] <genii> Bitnova: That's good. It's the folder for user named root, which is priveleged and normal user should not be able to enter or view what is in their home directory
[22:00] <Bitnova> oh ok i see.
[22:00] <Bitnova> but is it safe to delete it perhaps?
[22:00] <Ben64> no
[22:00] <Ben64> don't go around deleting stuff
[22:01] <Bitnova> ok
[22:01] <k1l> Bitnova: just let it sit there. that is fine.
[22:01] <Bitnova> its just weird it feels like i havent seen it before. and i was busy with some script so i hope it didnt create anything there.
[22:02] <Ben64> if you were running stuff as your user, it can't create anything there
[22:03] <Bitnova> well problem is i was running it as sudo Ben64
[22:04] <Ben64> well you shouldn't run things as sudo unless necessary
[22:04] <yoofoo> hello. I'm looking for a recommendation on a SQL client for Ubuntu. Any suggestion would be appreciated.
[22:04] <bekks> yoofoo: sql client for which database?
[22:05] <yoofoo> bekks, MSSQL
[22:05] <Revian2> Sorry for disconnecting, Ubuntu Wily seems to reboot on its own.
[22:05] <Bitnova> Ben64, i needed to install nullmailer from this script https://bitbucket.org/nullmailer-install-daemonize/nullmailer-installer-daemonizer/downloads. i just hope there is nothing bad about it.
[22:06] <Ben64> Bitnova: nullmailer is in the ubuntu repositories, no need to install from a 3rd party site
[22:06] <Revian2> When I install an app it doesn't appear in the app list until I log out and back in. Is this  a known issue? Is there a way to resolve it?
[22:06] <bekks> yoofoo: Try freetds
[22:06] <yoofoo> Thx, bekks
[22:07] <Bitnova> yes but v1.1 is in the repo's, this script downloads straight from http://untroubled.org/nullmailer/  which the latest version is 2.0 Ben64
[22:07] <Ben64> !latest | Bitnova
[22:12] <BadPay> whats up ?
[22:16] <retrojeff> took you long enough
[22:16] <retrojeff> ubottu touch my penis
[22:23] <bad_ip> Has anyone thought of a good way to do virtual desktops for remote users in ubuntu?
[22:25] <akik> bad_ip: x2go and kde work quite good together
[22:26] <bad_ip> akik: Cool!
[22:28] <akik> kde 4, haven't tested kde 5
[22:32] <askingyou> I installed Ubuntu now as dual boot with Windows 10, but Grub is not showing and Windows 10 is starting automatically
[22:33] <anonim> askingyou: go into your boot live cd
[22:33] <anonim> askingyou: install boot repair
[22:34] <askingyou> anonim: Do what it says in 2nd Option? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:34] <askingyou> anonim: Just write those three commands?
[22:34] <ViXz> Ay lmao
[22:35] <askingyou> what?
[22:35] <anonim> askingyou: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[22:35] <askingyou> anonim: Not this? install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[22:35] <anonim> sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[22:36] <askingyou> aight will try
[22:36] <anonim> you need to get the repo first and install it
[22:36] <askingyou> roger, thanks
[22:36] <anonim> sure, good luck
[22:37] <anonim> just pick the recommended setting when you open the program later, let it fix itself
[22:38] <Guest60095> side question about boot-repair. Can someone download it as a .deb and keep it handy?
[22:38] <Guest60095> just in case i am in a situation where internet is not available.
[22:38] <reisio> Guest60095: should be on the install image you used
[22:38] <genii> Probably a udeb and not a regular deb
[22:39] <Guest60095> wasnt aware of a udeb.... whats the dif?
[22:40] <Guest60095> n/m found answer
[22:46] <anonim> Guest60095: i think you should get it download it into .deb files and put into flashdrive
[22:52] <askingyou> anonim: https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/wl/t35.0-12/12751881_923442154371980_1088719804_o.jpg?oh=d2438a86c41e495291f88c7422021a93&oe=56CF28E8
[22:59] <Ultraguy> G'day
[23:01] <I-Am-Groot> What happened here?
[23:01] <I-Am-Groot> Its like everyone just quit
[23:02] <Bashing-om> I-Am-Groot: Network thing from maintenance .. see the message in your status window .
[23:04] <Fudge> ty
[23:08] <askingyou> anyone can help with grub not showing?
[23:08] <nnddb> Hello everyone. I run ubuntu trusty. If i execute "dpkg -s python" i see python version 2.7.5-5ubuntu3, but if i execute "dpkg -s python2.7" i see python version 2.7.6-8ubuntu0.2 why does? Can i have python 2.7.5 everywhere?
[23:08] <askingyou> anyone can help with grub not showing?
[23:09] <mtn> askingyou: efi or legacy boot?
[23:09] <askingyou> mtn: UEFI
[23:10] <askingyou> mtn: UEFI and its going straight to win 10
[23:10] <mtn> askingyou: it has to do with the uefi menu, I think. look in the bios
[23:10] <mtn> askingyou: or, uefi menu, I guess it would be called :)
[23:10] <askingyou> mtn: It's called UEFI menu in BIOS?
[23:11] <mtn> askingyou: when you have uefi, that is your "bios"
[23:11] <mtn> askingyou: you need to go into its settings
[23:11] <askingyou> mtn: Oh, so what am I looking at in settings?
[23:11] <askingyou> mtn: Are you talking about fast boot?
[23:12] <mtn> askingyou: the boot sequence or boot menu. many of the menus are different
[23:12] <askingyou> mtn: I got this error when I tried boot repair: https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/wl/t35.0-12/12751881_923442154371980_1088719804_o.jpg?oh=d2438a86c41e495291f88c7422021a93&oe=56CF28E8
[23:13] <askingyou> mtn: But any suggestion about what i am looking after and what im trying to do?
[23:13] <mtn> askingyou: you might even be able to fix it by a different choice in the uefi boot menu you can access at boot
[23:13] <askingyou> mtn: What choice?
[23:13] <Nairwolf> hi, I'm trying to do something with gparted with an usb key. I have an error "unable to open /dev/sdc1: Device or resource busy". What can I do with that ?
[23:14] <mtn> askingyou: go look. they are not all the same. you can tell us the choices if you can't figure it out
[23:14] <askingyou> mtn: https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/wl/t35.0-12/12773272_923447524371443_735334967_o.jpg?oh=cd4b25e7e14558195ee9518ea14ff7e4&oe=56CF6DC3
[23:15] <mtn> askingyou: that is not the boot menu, but it might help, too. look at each tab for booting info
[23:16] <Bashing-om> Nairwolf: Booting with the USB that has Gparted installed to operate on that same USB device ? No can operate on a device that is mounted ( in use ) .
[23:17] <Nairwolf> no, I'm not booting on this usb
[23:17] <askingyou> mtn: This boot order? https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/wl/t35.0-12/12765707_923450194371176_1890936903_o.jpg?oh=c5ff783827059ada0dc8dcd93e7b5d17&oe=56CF392F
[23:17] <Nairwolf> ok, it works now
[23:18] <Nairwolf> mistery...
[23:18] <Nairwolf> thank you Bashing-om
[23:18] <Bashing-om> Nairwolf: :) all good .
[23:19] <askingyou> mtn: https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/wl/t35.0-12/12768069_923450624371133_935347895_o.jpg?oh=17d97c09aaf7676109ec62c2682f672e&oe=56CF1D3E
[23:20] <mtn> askingyou: bingo!
[23:20] <askingyou> mtn: I choose Ubuntu there?
[23:21] <mtn> askingyou: if you want it to boot, yes. be aware there is a boot menu you can access during boot to choose something else, too
[23:21] <askingyou> mtn: How do I get the boot menu? Are you talking about Grub when you are saying boot menu?
[23:22] <mtn> askingyou: nope. a uefi boot menu. read your manual or look at the screen as it boots. though, yours may be different, they are not all the same. but, reading the manual would be a good place to start
[23:22] <askingyou> mtn: So you don't get Grub with UEFI?
[23:23] <mtn> askingyou: I think you will when you tell it to boot ubuntu first, but you will find out when you try it
[23:23] <askingyou> mtn: Aight, thanks mate
[23:23] <mtn> askingyou: welcome
[23:27] <oppa> Hello channel, i have ubuntu mate and i would liket to change the time format from 24 to 12, is there a way to do it? thanks
[23:29] <wilson> hey
[23:29] <askingyou> mtn: I chose Ubuntu on that UEFI list and Ubuntu is now first in that list, but still only win 10 loads. Any ideas?
[23:30] <dragonbite> I am having trouble with permissions
[23:30] <mtn> askingyou: find the boot menu and use it, I guess
[23:30] <mtn> askingyou: on a lot of machines it is F12
[23:30] <askingyou> mtn: Do you mean boot menu where you choose if you want to load from usb etc?
[23:31] <dragonbite> I am trying to "chown" and "chmod" a folder on a flash drive (on a server, no GUI) and am getting "Operation not permitted" even though I am using "sudo"
[23:31] <dragonbite> the flash drive is for being accessed from an ownCloud running on the server
[23:32] <k1l> oppa: right clikc on the clock and then time and date settings should offer an option for that
[23:32] <mtn> askingyou: maybe this will help, too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported
[23:33] <Bashing-om> dragonbite: NTFS file system ? Does not support POSIX .
[23:33] <dragonbite> vfat
[23:34] <AmarokNelg> is "ubuntubot" genuine?
[23:34] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[23:34] <k1l> !bot | AmarokNelg
[23:34] <Bashing-om> dragonbite: File access and permissions are set in the fstab mount point - is one way .
[23:35] <AmarokNelg> then who is "ubuntubot"
[23:35] <OnkelTem> How can I enable VSync? I'm just out ideas.
[23:35] <OnkelTem> Having an nvidia card
[23:35] <mtn> askingyou: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Identifying_if_the_computer_boots_the_HDD_in_UEFI_mode
[23:37] <rexwin_> how to check what dovecot packages are installed in my system?
[23:38] <askingyou> mtn: So installing Ubuntu when you have UEFI is hell?
[23:39] <mtn> askingyou: shouldn't be, but it is harder than legacy boot, for sure
[23:40] <HashLemon> Why does #lemon ban me
[23:40] <HashLemon> Not fair
[23:41] <bekks> HashLemon: Ask the operators of #lemon, thats nothing we can help you with.
[23:41] <squinty> rexwin_, dpkg -L <file name>   also synaptic package manager
[23:41] <HashLemon> How? Nobody is there now
[23:41] <bekks> HashLemon: And no one here can help you with that issue.
[23:42] <HashLemon> :/
[23:42] <HashLemon> Ok.
[23:42] <askingyou> mtn: I found the boot menu and even if I choose ubuntu there win10 starts
[23:42] <squinty> HashLemon,  just tried joining it here and got the banned message.  never heard or joined that channel before. try #freenode maybe
[23:43] <mtn> askingyou: did you reinstall your grub from a live disk?
[23:44] <mtn> askingyou: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[23:44] <askingyou> mtn: I tried boot repair with live cd and got this error: https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/wl/t35.0-12/12751881_923442154371980_1088719804_o.jpg?oh=d2438a86c41e495291f88c7422021a93&oe=56CF28E8
[23:44] <mtn> askingyou: remember, you are using uefi
[23:45] <mtn> askingyou: try it again using the link I sent you