| em | valorie: i do lock it. I lock it and lock all the widgets and then it gets unlocked somehow on its own power. | 00:49 |
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| valorie | ooo | 00:50 |
| valorie | I wonder if you have perhaps messed up permissions somewhere in your ~/ | 00:50 |
| em | valorie: that would be intriguing. Do you think my troubles could result from having installed Kubuntu on a Toshiba laptop without ever changing any EFI settings at all in the BIOS? | 00:51 |
| valorie | you can easily check, and regain correct permissions by chown -R username /home/username/ | 00:52 |
| valorie | well | 00:52 |
| valorie | !efi | 00:52 |
| ubottu | UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 00:52 |
| valorie | the above is more than I know about that | 00:52 |
| valorie | this would not be bios stuff, but perhaps using sudo in a gui application, or so | 00:53 |
| valorie | rather than kdesudo | 00:53 |
| em | valorie: also i don't know if this could be related but whenever I start Kubuntu before it gets to the GUI I see a black screen and at the top it says something to the effect of "Master Control Interupt Lied (SDE)! | 00:53 |
| valorie | hmmm | 00:53 |
| valorie | have you googled that? | 00:53 |
| em | yes | 00:54 |
| valorie | sounds like some systemd stuff | 00:54 |
| em | It was a little confusing. It didn't sound like it was vital | 00:54 |
| valorie | again, I doubt that is connected | 00:54 |
| em | it seemed like it might have to do with the screen or something. | 00:54 |
| valorie | as long as you get your gui, probably not important | 00:54 |
| em | valorie: another hypothesis -- This laptop has a touch screen (in my opinion that is worthless and i never use it) but I wonder if possibly it gets 'ghost sensations' when im not using it which makes it think that a finger is pushing stuff around and choosing options. | 00:55 |
| valorie | just try the chown | 00:55 |
| valorie | it can't hurt | 00:55 |
| em | okay i will. | 00:55 |
| em | sure. | 00:55 |
| valorie | and if it takes awhile.... you needed it | 00:55 |
| valorie | oh, put a * at the end | 00:56 |
| valorie | chown -R username /home/username/* | 00:56 |
| valorie | that will check the ownership of all files in your home | 00:56 |
| valorie | of course use your own username | 00:56 |
| valorie | unless your user is username | 00:57 |
| em | valorie: done. | 00:57 |
| em | hehe yeah my username is em :) | 00:57 |
| valorie | ok, that was quick | 00:57 |
| valorie | so probably not needed | 00:57 |
| valorie | I guess I would advise asking in #plasma then | 00:57 |
| valorie | I've never seen junk like that appearing | 00:58 |
| valorie | woops, dinner time | 00:59 |
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| vincent42 | hi all, in kubuntu 14.04 , wher is the "file size view" in konqueror or dolpin ? I can't seem to find it , is that a separate package ? | 07:07 |
| vincent42 | something displaying a graphical chart of file sizes | 07:07 |
| vincent42 | similar to windirstat on windoz | 07:07 |
| hateball | vincent42: sudo apt-get install kdirstat | 07:08 |
| vincent42 | thanks | 07:08 |
| vincent42 | hmmm I did a pkill dolphin to restart it | 07:09 |
| vincent42 | my kde sidebar freezed | 07:09 |
| vincent42 | ah it unfreezed :) | 07:09 |
| vincent42 | seems killing dolphin was not such a great idea | 07:10 |
| valorie | I like filelight | 07:10 |
| valorie | but I don't think it works in dolphin | 07:10 |
| valorie | it's nifty though | 07:11 |
| vincent42 | hmmm, is there a way to restart dolphgin after it's been killed ? | 07:11 |
| valorie | krunner won't do it? | 07:12 |
| valorie | krunner=alt+f2 | 07:13 |
| vincent42 | it 's very slow | 07:13 |
| vincent42 | but it seems to come back after a long time | 07:13 |
| vincent42 | one of dolphin window is very slow | 07:13 |
| valorie | another way to start it is in a konsole, and watch the output | 07:14 |
| vincent42 | ok so kdirstat is not visible in dolphin ? | 07:14 |
| vincent42 | actually I started it from the console , but it would stay stuck, not even open a window | 07:14 |
| valorie | control escape might give you more information | 07:15 |
| vincent42 | it seems klauncher had some problem | 07:15 |
| vincent42 | it got respawned | 07:15 |
| vincent42 | anyway seems to be working back now | 07:16 |
| vincent42 | hmm, konqueror is also slow to start | 07:16 |
| vincent42 | kdeinit4: Shutting down running client. | 07:17 |
| vincent42 | klauncher(5602) kdemain: Waiting for already running klauncher to exit. | 07:17 |
| vincent42 | argl | 07:21 |
| vincent42 | why does it do that | 07:21 |
| noaXess | morning.. does anybody use backports landing ppa? | 07:45 |
| noaXess | or know when the packes are moved to backports ppa? | 07:45 |
| vincent42 | hateball: kdirstat does it display the radial map ? | 07:46 |
| vincent42 | what I waslooking for was the view with some rectangles | 07:47 |
| vincent42 | with area proportionnal to file size | 07:47 |
| vincent42 | I only have a "radial map" view now | 07:47 |
| valorie | noaXess: I tested it, then removed it | 07:55 |
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| valorie | but I didn't purge the packages, because they work well | 07:55 |
| noaXess | okey.. | 07:55 |
| noaXess | but.. how is timeline that they move packages from landing to backports? | 07:56 |
| valorie | they haven't had time to do that yet, sorry | 07:56 |
| valorie | got a deadline for xenial the LTS to meet first | 07:56 |
| noaXess | valorie: are you a dev for kubuntu? | 08:20 |
| valorie | noaXess: I'm a council member | 08:28 |
| valorie | not a coder or packager, no | 08:29 |
| noaXess | okey.. fine ;) cool | 08:29 |
| Kardi | how do you guys learn about linux aside from using search engines and IRC? | 09:06 |
| lordievader | Experimenting? | 09:06 |
| valorie | Kardi: what part of linux are you interested in? | 09:07 |
| Kardi | general use | 09:07 |
| dhanraj | i built blender from source and it removed all gui packages, so i can only use it through terminal. does anybody know a fix | 09:07 |
| valorie | it helps to follow your interests, and choose a project that will challenge you some | 09:08 |
| valorie | !info blender | 09:08 |
| ubottu | blender (source: blender): Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.74+dfsg0-4build2 (wily), package size 20656 kB, installed size 66214 kB | 09:08 |
| valorie | hmmm, packaged from git, not a release | 09:08 |
| dhanraj | i installed plasma-desktop but still it shows only home screen nothing else | 09:10 |
| dhanraj | plus i have to manually use startx to launch it | 09:10 |
| hateball | dhanraj: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, that should pull in everything needed for a kubuntu experience | 09:14 |
| dhanraj | ohk thanks i will try | 09:14 |
| hateball | It will install sddm etc | 09:14 |
| hateball | dhanraj: Did you install from a minimal installer? | 09:14 |
| dhanraj | no | 09:15 |
| afx237 | does anyone know if the current versions of kde/plasma etc in the daily build of 16.04 is what will be in the stable release? i heard there was a freeze in the last couple of days, but not sure if it applies to kde | 09:15 |
| valorie | afx237: we filed FFE paperwork to get our recent stuff into the archive | 09:18 |
| valorie | final freeze is friday | 09:18 |
| valorie | or so | 09:18 |
| afx237 | ah, so it will change then? | 09:18 |
| Kardi | I'm wondering if there is a game based on using linux terminal commands? so I can get familiar with using linux | 09:21 |
| valorie | I'm not sure how that system works | 09:21 |
| valorie | oooo, I think there is something in KDE games | 09:21 |
| afx237 | Kardi: here's a challenging one: http://qntm.org/suicide | 09:22 |
| valorie | http://askubuntu.com/questions/337300/are-there-any-games-which-can-train-people-to-learn-terminal-commands mentions whatis | 09:22 |
| valorie | which sounds cool | 09:23 |
| Kardi | Cool | 09:23 |
| afx237 | Kardi: just in case you don't realise, it wipes all your files if you type anything wrong, fun eh | 09:23 |
| andybrine | Hi Everyone | 09:52 |
| Smurphy | jo | 09:52 |
| andybrine | I wonder if anyone can help. I just installed plasma desktop from ubuntu 15.10 and everything is working but the themes dont | 09:53 |
| andybrine | I have default icons and windows decorations | 09:53 |
| andybrine | does anyone know how to fix that? | 09:54 |
| andybrine | any support would be apprecated | 09:57 |
| clivejo | andybrine: how did you install it? | 09:59 |
| andybrine | I installed this repo: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ci/stable | 10:00 |
| andybrine | and then run dist-upgrade | 10:00 |
| andybrine | This then installed the whole desktop | 10:01 |
| andybrine | when I update themes, it doesnt change anything | 10:04 |
| clivejo | where did you get instructions to use kubuntu-ci ppa?!? | 10:07 |
| clivejo | you need to remove and purge that PPA and install using "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" | 10:08 |
| andybrine | I used this guide: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/08/install-kde-plasma-plasma-5-4/ | 10:08 |
| andybrine | ok Iwill do that now | 10:08 |
| andybrine | so just using this with no extra repos should be fine? | 10:09 |
| clivejo | have you universe enabled? | 10:10 |
| andybrine | yes, I think so. I will check | 10:10 |
| andybrine | im just purging that repo at the moment | 10:10 |
| clivejo | kubuntu-ci is our continuous integration | 10:11 |
| andybrine | oh ok | 10:12 |
| andybrine | so it can cause problems when upgrading | 10:12 |
| clivejo | well CI is mostly for testing/devel | 10:13 |
| andybrine | I am likely to have conflicts with gnome or unity when installing kubuntu | 10:13 |
| clivejo | you shouldnt do | 10:13 |
| andybrine | thanks, thats good to know | 10:13 |
| clivejo | kubuntu-desktop should pull in the required packages | 10:13 |
| clivejo | you do need to use the sddm login manager for kubuntu | 10:14 |
| andybrine | I think there was an error when I installed it | 10:14 |
| andybrine | is there a command to switch to that | 10:14 |
| andybrine | when I ran it again, there were no errors | 10:14 |
| clivejo | when you install the meta package it should ask you which display manager you want to use | 10:15 |
| andybrine | ok, I will give it another go | 10:16 |
| clivejo | kubuntu-desktop is a meta package which should install all the necessary packages to use KDE on Ubuntu | 10:17 |
| andybrine | I think there was an error somewhere which could have caused my problems | 10:18 |
| andybrine | I cant remember what it was though | 10:18 |
| andybrine | the latest kde looks awesome though | 10:18 |
| * clivejo nods | 10:19 | |
| clivejo | what did you use before? | 10:20 |
| andybrine | im using gnome shell at the moment | 10:20 |
| andybrine | and love it, but i wanted a change | 10:20 |
| andybrine | not used kde for about 5 years | 10:21 |
| clivejo | Its come on a lot! | 10:21 |
| andybrine | yea, it looks great | 10:21 |
| clivejo | andybrine: do you like testing software? | 10:21 |
| andybrine | I will brb, just going to reboot | 10:21 |
| andybrine | not really | 10:21 |
| andybrine | I need reliability | 10:21 |
| andybrine | right, im back | 10:24 |
| clivejo | how did it go? | 10:24 |
| andybrine | not to install it without the extra repo | 10:25 |
| andybrine | not installed it yet | 10:25 |
| andybrine | So you say I need the universe repo enabled? | 10:26 |
| clivejo | !info kubuntu-desktop | 10:27 |
| ubottu | kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu Plasma Desktop/Netbook system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.331 (wily), package size 3 kB, installed size 40 kB | 10:27 |
| clivejo | yup universe | 10:27 |
| andybrine | Ok, I will check that | 10:27 |
| floown | hello | 10:31 |
| floown | To convert a movie (avi) to mkv, what can I use in Kubuntu ? (plasma application) | 10:32 |
| Smurphy | floown: handbrake | 10:33 |
| floown | thx | 10:33 |
| andybrine | clivejo I dont think I have the installed, but are they not installed by default? | 10:39 |
| andybrine | actually, they are installed | 10:39 |
| _shaun_ | hi guys can u tell me what collate is about | 10:40 |
| andybrine | Here is my error: Errors were encountered while processing: | 10:41 |
| andybrine | /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.08.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb | 10:41 |
| andybrine | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 10:41 |
| andybrine | apologies for pasting it here | 10:41 |
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| andybrine | clivejo: I have installed it but have missing icons and im unable to change my windows decorations | 10:54 |
| clivejo | now add the backports PPA | 10:56 |
| clivejo | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports | 10:56 |
| clivejo | do a full upgrade | 10:56 |
| clivejo | sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y | 10:56 |
| clivejo | did you PPA purge the kubuntu-ci? | 10:57 |
| andybrine | yea, I purged that one and installed kubuntu | 10:57 |
| clivejo | sounds like you might be still using packages from the kubuntu-ci | 10:58 |
| clivejo | dunno why people write articles about using that! | 10:58 |
| andybrine | yea, its not the best idea | 10:58 |
| andybrine | the repo you just sent me, is that a development one? | 10:59 |
| andybrine | also how do I completely purge the cli repo | 10:59 |
| clivejo | I would use ppa-purge | 11:00 |
| andybrine | ok | 11:01 |
| andybrine | it look like its running ok. Just running the basic themes and icons which im unable to change at the moment | 11:02 |
| andybrine | as im running the update some icons are appering | 11:03 |
| clivejo | I reckon you have some broken packages installed by the kubuntu-ci ppa | 11:05 |
| clivejo | need to purge them and get the working version from the main repo or the backports | 11:06 |
| andybrine | when I purge that ppa is says: Warning: Could not find package list for PPA: kubuntu-ci stable | 11:06 |
| clivejo | you would probably need to add it again, do an apt-get update and then ppa-purge | 11:08 |
| andybrine | ok, I will do that | 11:08 |
| clivejo | andybrine: its not normally so difficult! | 11:10 |
| andybrine | no thats what I thought. Thats why I was wondering if there were conflicts with the install | 11:11 |
| andybrine | I still have lots of missing icons | 11:20 |
| andybrine | becoming a bit of a joke really. It should be simple to install kubuntu | 11:23 |
| hateball | It is. But messing about PPAs, that's on yourself. | 11:23 |
| andybrine | I have purged the PPA now and removed the files | 11:25 |
| andybrine | of the associated packages | 11:25 |
| andybrine | alrighty | 11:31 |
| andybrine | I think its all working now | 11:31 |
| clivejo | :) | 11:32 |
| andybrine | I think there was a missing package | 11:32 |
| clivejo | probably | 11:33 |
| andybrine | thanks for your help clivejo | 11:34 |
| clivejo | no problem | 11:34 |
| clivejo | hope you get on well with it | 11:34 |
| andybrine | actually icons are still not quite right lol | 11:36 |
| andybrine | I dolphin my folder icons are different | 11:36 |
| clivejo | different, how so? | 11:37 |
| andybrine | some are showing up correctly and others arent | 11:37 |
| andybrine | actually its Documents, Downloads and Music ect that are one icon theme and the other folders are another | 11:38 |
| clivejo | have you tried changing the theme? | 11:39 |
| andybrine | yea, thats what im doing now | 11:40 |
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| lenswipee | hi having problems installing kubuntu on my laptop. I created a bootable USB using netbootin, and on boot i select 'start kubuntu'. It then loads a blue splash screen and that is it. help please | 12:09 |
| soee | what version are you trying to install ? | 12:10 |
| lenswipee | the LTS version | 12:11 |
| soee | 14.04 ? | 12:11 |
| lenswipee | yes | 12:12 |
| lenswipee | the current LTS | 12:12 |
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| Smurphy | hit ESC as soon as the splash-screen shows up., it will show you what is happening under the hood. We need that to be able to help. | 12:13 |
| soee | lenswipee: i know i shouldn't say that here on support channel but maybe install 16.04 (it is like in beta now) and will be released in 1,5 month and it is LTS | 12:13 |
| lenswipee | im guessing it's a nvidia driver issue but i will hit esc to see thanks! | 12:14 |
| soee | and i had not a sigle problem with it for a long time | 12:14 |
| lenswipee | i hit esc and i see lot of [ok] but its fast so and still ends up loading the GUI. doesn't seem to stay in terminal. | 12:17 |
| hateball | !nomodeset| lenswipee | 12:18 |
| ubottu | lenswipee: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 12:18 |
| lenswipee | thanks ill read it now. | 12:19 |
| lenswipee | im confused after reading that how i access where i can edit | 12:23 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:24 |
| lenswipee | how to edit grub to set nomodeset? when i boot via usb using netbootin i see the netbootin menu where i can select 'start kbuntu'. I can esc into terminal but it will always end up switching over to GUI at the end and it hangs. help needed urgently | 12:48 |
| soee | BluesKaj: ^ | 12:49 |
| chr1s | lenswipee: I don't know if kubuntu compiles their kernel with interactive support but if they do then hitting i during the boot phase should allow you to choose which services start | 12:56 |
| lenswipee | hit 'i'? | 12:57 |
| chr1s | yep | 12:57 |
| chr1s | for interactive | 12:57 |
| chr1s | worth a try | 12:57 |
| lenswipee | ill try that now. thanks | 12:58 |
| chr1s | good luck | 12:58 |
| lenswipee | chr1s: with usb stick in? | 12:59 |
| lenswipee | didn't work | 13:01 |
| BluesKaj | lenswipee, http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu | 13:01 |
| lenswipee | how to edit grub when kbuntu is not even installed yet | 13:01 |
| lenswipee | BluesKaj: i can't install kubuntu. it hangs. | 13:02 |
| BluesKaj | lenswipee, yes, that presents adifficulty | 13:02 |
| BluesKaj | lenswipee, don't use unetbootin , IME it fails 50% of the time, dd the image to your usb stick | 13:03 |
| hateball | lenswipee: you should be able to edit the bootline even if using unetbootin | 13:03 |
| chr1s | lenswipee: you're trying to install from a usb stick? | 13:03 |
| lenswipee | yes from usbstick | 13:03 |
| hateball | lenswipee: (press tab to edit options) or something it should say on the menu | 13:04 |
| lenswipee | on boot i see netbootin menu | 13:04 |
| sithlord48 | do you have another usb stick ? | 13:04 |
| BluesKaj | then you won't habe grub to work with will you | 13:04 |
| BluesKaj | have | 13:04 |
| lenswipee | hateball: i think you are on to something with the tab | 13:04 |
| lenswipee | when i hit tab i get into terminal | 13:05 |
| lenswipee | terminal-like anyway | 13:05 |
| lenswipee | what i do there? | 13:05 |
| hateball | then you edit the bootline according to the instructions | 13:05 |
| sithlord48 | lenswipee: does the machine have an os on it already? | 13:05 |
| hateball | !nomodeset | 13:05 |
| ubottu | A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 13:05 |
| hateball | lenswipee: you see the line with lots of text. just backpspace away "quiet splash" and type in "nomodeset" | 13:06 |
| chr1s | lenswipee: what does your "terminal" look like? What can you see on the screen | 13:06 |
| lenswipee | sithlord48: the machine already has ubuntu knome installed on it where i already have set nomodeset but on installing kubuntu over it seems to still hang | 13:06 |
| sithlord48 | lenswipee: if this install using no modeset doesn't work try remaking your stick using the dd command | 13:07 |
| lenswipee | hateball: ill try that now. | 13:07 |
| lenswipee | ok sithlord48 | 13:07 |
| sithlord48 | lenswipee: also im a bit confused can you get to the live desktop/ installer or its hanging before that ? | 13:07 |
| BluesKaj | lenswipee, unetbootin sucks IMO , use dd to make your iso image bootable | 13:07 |
| hateball | I fail to see how reimaging the stick would solve problems with a GPU driver... | 13:07 |
| hateball | ugh, go ahead then | 13:08 |
| BluesKaj | it's not going to boot with no modeset either | 13:08 |
| BluesKaj | it's a stick | 13:08 |
| sithlord48 | i have had no luck w/ unetbootin myself its never worked for me when i have tried it | 13:09 |
| lenswipee | sithlord48: i can't get to the live desktop/installer. | 13:10 |
| lenswipee | when i hit tab | 13:10 |
| sithlord48 | ok then try with nomodeset as a boot param if that don't work then remake the stick | 13:10 |
| lenswipee | i no longer see text about quiet splash as i already edited grub on existing ubuntu knome i think. i saw it previously to that | 13:11 |
| lenswipee | but i typed in nomodeset at the end and hit enter then a whole bunch of text scrolled down | 13:11 |
| lenswipee | it then ends with this: | 13:11 |
| lenswipee | (initramfs) | 13:12 |
| lenswipee | now i can text stuff and that is it | 13:12 |
| lenswipee | no more loading | 13:12 |
| BluesKaj | nomodeset won't make any differnce in booting a usb stick afaik , if I'm wrong some please explain how that can work | 13:13 |
| sithlord48 | i would remake the stick and check it to be sure | 13:13 |
| chr1s | lenswippe: do you have a login prompt or something or has it produced some error message like a kernel panic? | 13:13 |
| sithlord48 | check your isos md5 bad downloads do happen and if you still have prolems after remaking check the stick using the check disc entry on the menu | 13:14 |
| lenswipee | chr1s: no login prompt as i'm trying to install kubuntu from usb stick. So far it boots to netbootin menu and i select 'start kubuntu' then it hangs on a blue splash screen GUI. if i hit esc before the gui i get a list of text [ok] then it switches to gui and hangs. | 13:15 |
| lenswipee | ill check md5 of the iso file tomorrow | 13:16 |
| lenswipee | then try again | 13:16 |
| lenswipee | failing that ill do the dd thing someone mentioned | 13:16 |
| chr1s | lenswipee: can you get to a console once it hangs? Trying pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1 | 13:17 |
| chr1s | maybe it's only X that's stuck | 13:17 |
| lenswipee | ill try that now chr1s | 13:17 |
| lenswipee | yes that worked | 13:21 |
| lenswipee | i'm in console | 13:21 |
| lenswipee | chr1s: what can be done here? | 13:21 |
| sithlord48 | lenswipee: what is your video card? | 13:21 |
| chr1s | cool, so now we can try to work out why your X doesn't start | 13:22 |
| chr1s | can you log in on the console | 13:22 |
| lenswipee | log in? | 13:23 |
| lenswipee | how to log into something that hasnt completely installed? | 13:23 |
| sithlord48 | user name is kubuntu iirc | 13:24 |
| chr1s | default for ubuntu is username: ubuntu with no password (just hit enter), maybe the same for kubuntu? | 13:25 |
| lenswipee | all i see is kubuntu@kubuntu~ | 13:25 |
| sithlord48 | so your are loged in | 13:25 |
| chr1s | sounds like you logged in then lenswipee | 13:25 |
| sithlord48 | what version are you trying to install ? | 13:25 |
| lenswipee | the 14.X LTS | 13:26 |
| lenswipee | when i do 'ls' i see 'desktop' | 13:27 |
| chr1s | i would be tempted to kill X if it is running and then to startx and see what output comes on the commandline as it starts up (switch back using Ctrl+Alt+F1 again), it should tell you what modules it is loading | 13:27 |
| sithlord48 | lets first kill the xserver .. im not sure what DM the live is using we will try to stop light dm | 13:27 |
| chr1s | and hopefully give some indication of where it's failing | 13:27 |
| sithlord48 | use the command sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop | 13:28 |
| chr1s | just kill -9 X :) | 13:28 |
| sithlord48 | i think kubuntu is also the password if you need it | 13:28 |
| sithlord48 | or that | 13:28 |
| chr1s | less graceful but it's already broken | 13:28 |
| lenswipee | so 'kill -9 x' | 13:29 |
| sithlord48 | X | 13:29 |
| chr1s | capital X | 13:29 |
| lenswipee | ok | 13:29 |
| chr1s | do it again and make sure it gives an error message | 13:29 |
| chr1s | it means you really killed X :) | 13:30 |
| lenswipee | it says thisL | 13:30 |
| lenswipee | -bash kill X arguments must be present | 13:30 |
| lenswipee | something like that | 13:30 |
| chr1s | try killall -9 X | 13:31 |
| chr1s | sorry | 13:31 |
| chr1s | kill is expecting a PID :) | 13:31 |
| lenswipee | X no prcoess found | 13:32 |
| chr1s | good | 13:32 |
| chr1s | X is dead :) | 13:32 |
| lenswipee | ok no what? :) | 13:32 |
| lenswipee | now | 13:32 |
| chr1s | sithlord48, what do you want to do next? I'd try starting X and see where it hangs but maybe you have some other idea? | 13:32 |
| sithlord48 | startx | 13:33 |
| chr1s | good plan, i like it :) | 13:33 |
| lacika | Hi everyone ! | 13:34 |
| chr1s | lenswipee: when it hangs switch back to the console again with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and tell us what it says on the console | 13:35 |
| sithlord48 | it should say something like "i don't wanna do it " but less directly | 13:35 |
| lacika | I am long time user of kubuntu. After upgrade to 15.04 I must return to 14.04, because I found it unusable ... | 13:35 |
| chr1s | afk for a bit but sithlord has it under control i think :) If you're still stuck when i'm back i'll try to help some more | 13:36 |
| sithlord48 | lacika: do yo uhave a seperate /home partition? | 13:36 |
| BluesKaj | 15.04 is no longer supported , lacika | 13:36 |
| lenswipee | about 'startx' | 13:36 |
| lenswipee | it now loads the desktop GUI | 13:37 |
| sithlord48 | tada | 13:37 |
| sithlord48 | you should be able to install now | 13:37 |
| BluesKaj | yay! | 13:37 |
| lenswipee | seems like a live play not an install | 13:37 |
| BluesKaj | i still desdpise unetbootin :-) | 13:37 |
| lacika | the question is: Is it possible to install Kubuntu 15.10 with look&feel (icons, transparency ... etc.) the same as on 14.04 ? | 13:37 |
| sithlord48 | thats fine there should be a install kubuntu icon in the folder widget | 13:37 |
| sithlord48 | lacika: sorta | 13:38 |
| sithlord48 | lacika: you can use oxygen widget them and some other stuff but not all | 13:38 |
| BluesKaj | lacika, as you were asked before , do you have separate / and /home partitions? | 13:38 |
| lacika | I really hate transparency and strange (for me idiotic new look&feel) | 13:38 |
| lacika | sure, I have them :) | 13:39 |
| sithlord48 | im using breeze dark and i have less transparency then i had on plasma4 | 13:39 |
| sithlord48 | if you ahve a seperate /home you can just instlal 14.04 and don't format your /home | 13:39 |
| lacika | The best for me is to disable transparency completely 1 | 13:39 |
| BluesKaj | then just install 15.10 to / using the manual partitioning in ubiquity and set the mountpoint for /home and continue | 13:40 |
| BluesKaj | lacika,^ | 13:40 |
| lacika | I do not need "effects" and all thic "modern" stupid bullshit | 13:40 |
| sithlord48 | you can turn them off | 13:41 |
| sithlord48 | or better yet just disable the ones you don't like since you generally get better proformance w/ desktop effects on | 13:41 |
| lacika | ok, i tried it on 15.04, but I was not happy anyway ... | 13:41 |
| BluesKaj | that breeze theme isn't my cuppa ntea | 13:41 |
| lenswipee | where i find the install icon? | 13:41 |
| sithlord48 | package manager? or get new stuff | 13:42 |
| BluesKaj | look in the kmenu lenswipee | 13:42 |
| sithlord48 | i don't care for the flatness | 13:42 |
| sithlord48 | honestsly | 13:42 |
| lacika | i.e. I like to have it the same as 14.04, but upgrade let say to comming 16.04 | 13:42 |
| sithlord48 | depending ont he version of kf5 in 15.10 get new stuff might be broken for somethings | 13:43 |
| sithlord48 | and plasma5 it will be getting support for following the color scheme of the widgets soon | 13:43 |
| lenswipee | BluesKaj: ok | 13:44 |
| lenswipee | when i double click on the install icon a smaller icon starts bounching up and down and my usbstick starts to flash for a while then stops. | 13:46 |
| lenswipee | :( | 13:46 |
| lenswipee | no fun installing kubuntu | 13:47 |
| newbie_ | Good morning! | 13:54 |
| chr1s | lenswipee: open a virtual console and launch whatever the icon starts from there and see if there is some useful error message | 13:54 |
| chr1s | congrats on getting a GUI using "magic" :) | 13:54 |
| chr1s | no idea why it runs now | 13:55 |
| newbie_ | anyone can help me with the upgrade from kmail 5.02 to 5.1 in kubuntu 5.10? | 13:55 |
| newbie_ | :) | 13:56 |
| lenswipee | chr1s: virtual console? | 13:58 |
| lenswipee | chr1s: i'm a noob | 13:58 |
| lenswipee | chr1s: i noticed there is an error regarding needing properity drivers for nvidia | 13:58 |
| lenswipee | chr1s: but install icon fails | 13:59 |
| BluesKaj | lenswipee, most nvidia gpus will run fine with the default nouveau driver, so I still think there's a flaw in the image you have on the usb. | 14:04 |
| chr1s | lenswipee: use the KDE menu and start Terminal | 14:04 |
| lenswipee | and | 14:05 |
| chr1s | K > Applications > System Tools > Terminal (Konsole) | 14:05 |
| lenswipee | and | 14:05 |
| BluesKaj | that's not going fix anything if the image is corrupted , that's all I have to say | 14:05 |
| chr1s | what do you get when you do "pwd" | 14:06 |
| lenswipee | BluesKaj: i'll keep that in mind | 14:06 |
| chr1s | in the Terminal program | 14:06 |
| lenswipee | im starting startx again. bear with me. | 14:08 |
| lenswipee | it says /home/kubuntu | 14:09 |
| chr1s | ok if you do "cd Desktop" that should get you to the directory where your desktop resides :) | 14:10 |
| chr1s | i guess that icon you were clicking on before is there somewhere? | 14:11 |
| lenswipee | ok | 14:11 |
| chr1s | do you know where the icon is exactly on your file system? | 14:12 |
| lenswipee | in desktop | 14:13 |
| lenswipee | nope | 14:13 |
| chr1s | ok what do you get if you do "ls" now? | 14:13 |
| lenswipee | so you want me to execute install file from terminal basically? | 14:13 |
| chr1s | yep | 14:13 |
| lenswipee | i get | 14:13 |
| chr1s | cool | 14:13 |
| chr1s | not such a noob :) | 14:13 |
| lenswipee | ubitqytu...desktop | 14:14 |
| chr1s | ok, just run the installer from the command line like you said and see what you get as output on the terminal | 14:14 |
| lenswipee | ill have to go back to desktop manager to look around | 14:14 |
| chr1s | ok, let me know when you have something and we'll see what we can do | 14:15 |
| hateball | lenswipee: what GPU do you have? | 14:15 |
| hateball | and what distro version? | 14:15 |
| hateball | as nouveau in 14.04 wont work with nvidia 9xx series, you need to boot nomodeset and then grab a recent driver from https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 14:16 |
| lenswipee | ok hateball | 14:17 |
| lenswipee | the install file is in desktop | 14:17 |
| lenswipee | its called ubuiqity-kdui.desktop | 14:18 |
| lenswipee | typing 'ubuiqity-kdui.desktop' in terminal gives command not found | 14:19 |
| lenswipee | no idea what nvidia drivers is needed but its a few years old laptop | 14:19 |
| BluesKaj | lenswipee, is this laptop a hybrid with 2 GPUs. intel and nvidia? AKA Optimus system? | 14:21 |
| lenswipee | nah one GPU | 14:21 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 14:21 |
| BluesKaj | good | 14:21 |
| lenswipee | just nvidia | 14:21 |
| lenswipee | so how to execute the install file in terminal | 14:22 |
| lenswipee | its called | 14:22 |
| lenswipee | 'ubuiqity-kdui.desktop' | 14:22 |
| hateball | well, you cant | 14:25 |
| hateball | it requires X | 14:25 |
| hateball | lenswipee: but is this 14.04 or 15.10 ? | 14:25 |
| lenswipee | what is X? | 14:26 |
| hateball | a GUI | 14:26 |
| lenswipee | 14.04 LTS | 14:26 |
| lenswipee | the install file is only executable in GUI? | 14:27 |
| hateball | well then, either you use the minimal install with 14.04 and pull in kubuntu-desktop + nvidia drivers from PPA, or you use 15.10 which works with recent nvidia cards ootb | 14:27 |
| hateball | you _could_ even go for 16.04 even tho it's not final yet | 14:27 |
| lenswipee | problem is i cant even install kubuntu | 14:28 |
| hateball | lenswipee: and did you try a 15.10 media? | 14:34 |
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| lenswipee | might have to try the latest kubuntu 15.X perhaps | 14:35 |
| BluesKaj | n ot 15.X, 15.10...15.04 is no longer supported | 14:36 |
| BluesKaj | lenswipee,^ | 14:37 |
| andybrine | Does anyone know where you can setup the calendar in the panel in kbuntu? | 14:37 |
| andybrine | I would like to integrate it with my google calendar | 14:37 |
| chr1s | lenswipee: I thought you had X (the GUI) working now after we did "startx"? | 14:37 |
| BluesKaj | andybrine, click on the time in the panel | 14:37 |
| lenswipee | yes | 14:38 |
| lenswipee | but when i click install nothing happens | 14:38 |
| lenswipee | X works | 14:38 |
| chr1s | to execute the installer just open terminal, cd to the correct location and do "./ubiquity...." (whatever it's called | 14:38 |
| andybrine | yes, im clicking on it but I want to configure it to show my google events | 14:38 |
| andybrine | it shows the calendar but no events in there | 14:38 |
| lenswipee | chr1s: tried that | 14:39 |
| chr1s | lenswipee: you just need to put "./" in front of the name of the installer since probably the current directory isn't in your path | 14:39 |
| lenswipee | chr1s: it wont execute | 14:39 |
| chr1s | lenswipee: and it didn't work? Does it give you an error message? | 14:39 |
| andybrine | is it all done though korganiser? | 14:40 |
| lenswipee | chr1s: something about command not available | 14:40 |
| lenswipee | chr1s: i did chmod +x name | 14:40 |
| lenswipee | chr1s: ./name | 14:40 |
| chr1s | ok, try doing "sudo su -" | 14:41 |
| chr1s | then cd to the directory and run it again | 14:42 |
| lenswipee | chr1s: thanks ill try it tomorrow morning. getting late here. and i've had enough :) | 14:43 |
| chr1s | ok, no worries, if that doesn't work I'm out of ideas anyway | 14:43 |
| lenswipee | here im thinking of migrating away from windows to kubuntu as it has "windows feel". | 14:43 |
| lenswipee | what a hell of an experience | 14:44 |
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| BluesKaj | lenswipee, put a new image on the stick with dd , then try again | 14:44 |
| chr1s | i've never known it be this hard :) | 14:44 |
| BluesKaj | chris the image is corrupted imo, that's the problem | 14:44 |
| lenswipee | chr1s: just my luck. | 14:45 |
| lenswipee | BluesKaj: ill check it tomorrow first thing. | 14:45 |
| BluesKaj | lenswipee, ok | 14:45 |
| lenswipee | Bye guys. Cya tomorrow no doubt. | 14:45 |
| andybrine | Is is possible to integrate the google calendar in kde? | 14:46 |
| andybrine | so it shows the events when you click on the clock | 14:46 |
| BluesKaj | andybrine, https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=261&t=128934 | 14:48 |
| andybrine | BluesKaj: Thanks, but there was no response to that post | 14:49 |
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| BluesKaj | andybrine, oops sorry...most of the info is out of date on google | 15:00 |
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| Guest60238 | l | 15:55 |
| Guest60238 | NICK DZ | 15:56 |
| jim__ | hi there | 16:08 |
| jim__ | looking for help trying to get advice on how to download remote desktop connection on kubuntu and a vpn | 16:10 |
| chr1s | jim__: what do you mean by download remote desktop connection? | 16:11 |
| chr1s | do you just want to remote desktop to another machine? | 16:11 |
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| digitalmouse | greetings, programs! | 18:00 |
| BluesKaj | programs? | 18:02 |
| volk | что с этим делать | 18:10 |
| sandy | hi | 18:53 |
| sandy | i installed kubuntu 14.04 on my dell insiron 5558 pc | 18:54 |
| sandy | wifi and video drivers aren't working | 18:54 |
| sandy | any one there?? | 18:55 |
| === tester_ is now known as tester__ | ||
| sandy | hello any one there?? | 18:56 |
| BluesKaj | sandy which chips ? | 18:56 |
| sandy | in the sense?? | 18:56 |
| genii | sandy: Please have patience. If no one responds to a question, ask again in 10-15 minutes. | 18:57 |
| BluesKaj | wifi and gpu | 18:57 |
| sandy | wifi is intel dualband wireless AC 3160 | 18:57 |
| sandy | and video nvidia | 18:58 |
| BluesKaj | odd that nvidia isn't working , normally the nouveau driver works well enough | 18:58 |
| sandy | okay | 18:59 |
| sandy | its not working!! | 19:00 |
| sandy | even the touchpad | 19:00 |
| genii | sandy: What are the symptoms the video drivers not working... just black screen and no video period, or you get graphics but there is some problem with them like tearing | 19:01 |
| BluesKaj | sandy, have you updated and upgraded? | 19:01 |
| sandy | updated | 19:01 |
| BluesKaj | upgrade as well | 19:01 |
| genii | First thing to tackle would be wifi, anyhow | 19:01 |
| sandy | brightness doesn't change | 19:01 |
| sandy | how to get my wifi problem fixed?? | 19:02 |
| BluesKaj | check the package manager for intel wifi driver | 19:02 |
| sandy | as in where? | 19:03 |
| sandy | i am new to linux | 19:03 |
| BluesKaj | kmenu>apps>system>software center | 19:05 |
| sandy | it doesn't show anything | 19:07 |
| dhanraj | hey | 19:08 |
| dhanraj | anybody know how to solve this? | 19:08 |
| dhanraj | Found dependency from scilab-cli-bin to libstdc++ found | 19:08 |
| dhanraj | Makefile:2092: recipe for target 'check-libstdcpp-dep' failed | 19:08 |
| dhanraj | make[1]: *** [check-libstdcpp-dep] Error 2 | 19:08 |
| dhanraj | make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/dhanraj/gsoc/scilab/scilab-5.5.2' | 19:08 |
| dhanraj | Makefile:1541: recipe for target 'all-recursive' failed | 19:08 |
| sandy | it doesn't work! | 19:11 |
| sandy | thanks | 19:11 |
| genii | dhanraj: Looks like you're trying to compile something | 19:15 |
| dhanraj | yes | 19:16 |
| dhanraj | scilab | 19:16 |
| dhanraj | genii: can help me out with the error? | 19:16 |
| dhanraj | genii: can you help me out with the error? | 19:16 |
| genii | dhanraj: Why not just install it normally instead of compiling? | 19:16 |
| genii | !info scilab | 19:17 |
| ubottu | scilab (source: scilab): Scientific software package for numerical computations. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.5.2-1ubuntu1 (wily), package size 30 kB, installed size 286 kB | 19:17 |
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| dhanraj | i want to contribute in scilab | 19:18 |
| genii | dhanraj: Try: sudo apt-get build-dep scilab | 19:19 |
| genii | ...and then try your build again | 19:20 |
| dhanraj | yes i did that | 19:20 |
| dhanraj | but still same error | 19:20 |
| dhanraj | one more thing | 19:21 |
| dhanraj | how should i unlock my directory | 19:22 |
| genii | dhanraj: I would suggest to download the source by sudo apt-get source scilab ...rather than from a tar.gz someplace | 19:26 |
| dhanraj | ohk | 19:27 |
| dhanraj | genii: same error | 19:36 |
| genii | dhanraj: Apologies on lag, have a work emergency here. | 20:01 |
| dhanraj | genii: no problem | 20:01 |
| dhanraj | btw i solved it now | 20:02 |
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| dpy | hi guys | 20:37 |
| soee | hiho | 20:38 |
| dpy | I'm using a laptop with intel HD5500 and kernel 4.2.0, whenever I do something in full screen (youtube video/browser full screen/mplayer) the video is not fluent, or windows are not refreshed) | 20:38 |
| dpy | if I do not go into full screen (i.e. 1 pixel smaller than that) it works | 20:39 |
| dpy | does this ring a bell for anyone? | 20:39 |
| dpy | I suspect it's some sort of overzealous optimization going on | 20:40 |
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| === kubuntu is now known as vorteks | ||
| vorteks | why does kubuntu installer hang fous hours at Detecting file systems? i had problem with version 16.x and 15.10 | 21:54 |
| vorteks | and google.com show other having problem with no solutions | 21:54 |
| vorteks | other=ithers | 21:55 |
| genii | Do you have a raid controller which uses Windows drivers? | 21:58 |
| vorteks | nope | 21:58 |
| vorteks | no raid at all | 21:58 |
| genii | Do you know what filesystems you have? | 21:59 |
| vorteks | ext4 and swap | 21:59 |
| vorteks | ls | 21:59 |
| vorteks | woops forget the ls | 21:59 |
| genii | vorteks: Do the partiton types and filesystems which are on those partitions line up? For example, you can have a partition which is type 7 ( NTFS) but actually was formatted ext4 | 22:02 |
| genii | The installer looks at the partition type to try and decide what filesystem is on that partition | 22:02 |
| genii | ( same as the automounter does) | 22:02 |
| vorteks | hrm | 22:04 |
| vorteks | yeah they do | 22:05 |
| vorteks | er what do you mean? | 22:05 |
| vorteks | okk ill looks at partition types | 22:11 |
| vorteks | all i know is the installer cd didn't do this to me last week on this computer | 22:11 |
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