| Nairwolf | floculant : how can I verify if this bug affects me ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/1548647 | 00:10 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1548647 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice uses breeze style" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 00:10 |
| krytarik | Nairwolf: https://kdeonlinux.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/libreoffice3.png vs. http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/lo-writer.png | 00:45 |
| Nairwolf | oh, thank you, the first one is much nicer ;) | 00:51 |
| Nairwolf | I hope it will be changed ;) | 00:52 |
| knome | actually, the latter one is what you should have. | 00:54 |
| bluesabre | :D | 00:56 |
| Nairwolf | i've shut down my test-computer, but it seems that I had the second one | 01:00 |
| Nairwolf | why this theme ? | 01:01 |
| knome | there are actually a few things that are different in those two screenshots, so there is no clear answer | 01:01 |
| Nairwolf | ok | 01:09 |
| bluesabre | gnome-software seems to do *some* stuff now | 01:19 |
| knome | :) | 01:19 |
| knome | branau, hello | 01:19 |
| branau | Hey knome! How goes it? | 01:19 |
| knome | not bad | 01:19 |
| knome | to answer to your email: | 01:20 |
| knome | as i said, my original intention was to work on the UI side of things | 01:20 |
| knome | then i noticed that the uploader on your version had a possibility to upload from an URL | 01:20 |
| knome | plus the regular metadata stuff wordpress offers | 01:20 |
| knome | i quickly checked if there was an option to be able to remove those, but there didn't seem to be a trivial choice | 01:21 |
| knome | i mean we only want the user to upload a file, without touching it's title, or too much else | 01:21 |
| branau | Yeah, I thought you wanted me to use the built-in WordPress uploader, at least that was what I had understood | 01:22 |
| knome | yeah; my code uses wp to handle the upload too | 01:22 |
| knome | i think this is the old widget though | 01:22 |
| knome | which turned out to be perfect for us :) | 01:22 |
| branau | Gotcha, I must've misunderstood what you meant | 01:22 |
| knome | less dependencies too! | 01:22 |
| knome | i mean your version was fine too - it just had that URL thing, and other options we actually didn't want to show the user if possible | 01:23 |
| knome | i totally didn't mean to snatch the work from you... | 01:23 |
| knome | at the point i had the upload thing done, and having heard you say that you didn't touch the voting stuff yet, i quickly dropped that in too | 01:24 |
| branau | It's all good, I should've clarified before jumping into it | 01:24 |
| knome | the version you got actually saves all the votes in a single option; i've now updated the tarball into a version where each image has its own metadata with votes | 01:24 |
| knome | (and licence/attribution in their own meta fields instead of the "content" field, so people can't mess with it now) | 01:25 |
| branau | Sounds good, so you want me to upload that plugin so we can test it then= | 01:25 |
| branau | ?* | 01:25 |
| knome | it's still on temp.knome.fi | 01:25 |
| branau | Ah, same url as before? | 01:26 |
| knome | i've actually sent a request to the canonical IS to set up a new subdomain contest.xubuntu.org | 01:26 |
| knome | so once we have that linked, i'll push the code to the server and set it up for further testing | 01:26 |
| branau | Ah, sounds good | 01:26 |
| knome | (i should also push the code to a repository under xubuntu-website in launchpad) | 01:26 |
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| bluesabre | Assuming we're leaving our monospace font as DejaVu, this should be it for the changes to desktop branches | 10:55 |
| bluesabre | https://code.launchpad.net/~bluesabre/xubuntu-default-settings/noto-sans | 10:55 |
| bluesabre | https://code.launchpad.net/~bluesabre/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.xenial.noto-sans | 10:55 |
| SwissBot | feed xubuntu-default-settings had 8 updates, showing the latest 3 | 11:25 |
| knome | bluesabre, well done | 11:28 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: new catfish-daily package building in https://code.launchpad.net/~catfish-search/+archive/ubuntu/ppa - fixed | 12:25 |
| bluesabre | https://bugs.launchpad.net/catfish-search/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branche | 12:25 |
| bluesabre | s.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search | 12:25 |
| knome | huhu | 12:25 |
| bluesabre | that failed | 12:26 |
| bluesabre | :D | 12:26 |
| * knome grants bluesabre the sherlock of the day award | 12:26 | |
| bluesabre | huzzahhhh | 12:26 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: better link https://bugs.launchpad.net/catfish-search/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED | 12:26 |
| bluesabre | with the recent annoyances in clutter, might set parole | 12:28 |
| bluesabre | 's default back to xv and add some patches to make that better | 12:29 |
| * bluesabre can't seem to type today | 12:29 | |
| bluesabre | will have to figure something out with mugshot :\ | 12:29 |
| knome | ok everybody, likely going to break dev.xubuntu.org for a sec | 12:31 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: what's so broken with clutter in 16.04? | 12:31 |
| ochosi | (i presume totem/video still works as always) | 12:31 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: API change in ClutterGst... the old video sink was dropped and the new one is a pain to integrate | 12:32 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: the old one was a clutter actor that could be easily embedded, the new one, not so much | 12:32 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: I'm also apparently the only person using the API in python | 12:32 |
| bluesabre | no code examples >.< | 12:33 |
| bluesabre | will hop on one of those channels trying to get support sometime soon, haven't quite had time lately | 12:34 |
| bluesabre | so to summarize... in mugshot the video appears white but a photo can technically be taken | 12:35 |
| bluesabre | and in parole, I have code that makes it do something now, but it just pops the video window out of the player | 12:35 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: what a good chap you are :) | 12:41 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: still got issues with images and laptops - which probably is actually useful - not loads of rebuilds going on :D | 12:47 |
| flocculant | I've managed to jury rig a laptop up so can at least test the installer doesn't crash prior to deciding to release or not | 12:48 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: that sounds really meh | 12:49 |
| flocculant | I'd likely still release anyway - it can install on laptop as long as remove battery/use ac | 12:49 |
| flocculant | hi ochosi | 12:49 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: funnnn | 12:54 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: used gnome-software any lately? | 12:55 |
| bluesabre | it does some stuff now | 12:55 |
| bluesabre | and last night it consumed all of my ram after closing it | 12:55 |
| bluesabre | :D | 12:56 |
| bluesabre | going to try to reproduce tonight, then file a bug if I can | 12:56 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: yes, especially since I moved to clutter with the idea that things should be stable and supported and easy to maintain | 12:57 |
| bluesabre | (pretty much none of those ideals came true) | 12:57 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: nope - not used it lately | 12:59 |
| bluesabre | still doesn't list uninstalled apps (for me) | 12:59 |
| flocculant | same | 13:00 |
| bluesabre | but the updater functionality is starting to work, and existing apps can be launched now | 13:00 |
| flocculant | really | 13:00 |
| flocculant | it's telling me there are updates when there aren't | 13:01 |
| bluesabre | *starting* | 13:01 |
| flocculant | ha ha ha | 13:01 |
| flocculant | in as much as it probably could :) | 13:01 |
| bluesabre | I think that might be related to the "Restart & Install" button at the top of mine | 13:02 |
| bluesabre | scared to think of what that might do if it does not currently work | 13:02 |
| flocculant | I dare you :p | 13:02 |
| bluesabre | I'll do it in a vm later ;) | 13:02 |
| flocculant | ha ha ha | 13:02 |
| flocculant | I see you are sensible then :D | 13:03 |
| bluesabre | only a bit | 13:03 |
| flocculant | :) | 13:03 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: I assume the catfish changes are in the ppa? I tested the click not working properly one I reported - that appears to work now, so I hope so :) | 13:05 |
| flocculant | right - I'm off again - bbl | 13:07 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: yes, the "catfish-daily" package | 13:08 |
| knome | bluesabre, have you ever used dokuwiki with mysql? | 13:55 |
| bluesabre | knome, nope | 13:58 |
| knome | mhm | 13:58 |
| bluesabre | Time for work, bbl | 13:58 |
| knome | i don't remember if i have, i might... | 13:58 |
| Nairwolf | hi flocculant, I've received your message | 16:27 |
| Nairwolf | I would like to help more, so tell me what I'm supposed to do ;) | 16:28 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: you read the QA dev docs? generally just carry on as you are for the time being - you're doing fine | 16:30 |
| flocculant | assuming you're about still in May then we can look at getting you to do more for sure | 16:31 |
| Nairwolf | flocculant: I need to admit, I'm often lost with all links to deal with (docs.xubuntu.org, ubuntu wiki, launchpad) | 16:46 |
| flocculant | :D | 16:46 |
| flocculant | for QA you need one :) | 16:47 |
| flocculant | http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/ | 16:47 |
| Nairwolf | ok ! | 16:53 |
| Nairwolf | I'm gonna read that | 16:53 |
| Nairwolf | thanks | 16:53 |
| flocculant | 3 of the chapters are qa | 16:53 |
| Nairwolf | I need to do some stuff right now, maybe I'm going to ask some questions later | 16:53 |
| Nairwolf | yes, I've seen that | 16:53 |
| Nairwolf | oh, I wasn't connected, what was my last message ? | 17:17 |
| Nairwolf | I've just discovered that : https://trello.com/b/IV66JCHl/xubuntu-qa | 17:17 |
| Nairwolf | what does mean "Priority 5" ? | 17:17 |
| flocculant | it';s the 5th time it was going to get called | 17:24 |
| Nairwolf | what is "it" ? | 17:26 |
| flocculant | don't really use that anymore - not likely to make it into the yogic yinepu cycle | 17:26 |
| Nairwolf | Can I join this team or do I need to show my work, before ? | 17:27 |
| Nairwolf | https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-testers | 17:27 |
| flocculant | you can join that - it's open team | 17:28 |
| Nairwolf | okay, what are the implications ? Will I receive some mails ? | 17:29 |
| flocculant | some - not many | 17:29 |
| Nairwolf | ok, ok, I will see | 17:30 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: I think I asked this before - lost in the logs of time though ... why do we have evince and evince-gtk? | 18:54 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: evince-gtk is a transitional dummy package back to evince now. | 19:21 |
| knome | Unit193, since you mentioned it, navigation on dev. and wiki. should now work seamlessly | 19:56 |
| knome | (seamlessly meaning that if you have dev. open and go to wiki. (or the other way), your irc tab will be reset) | 19:56 |
| knome | but maybe the irc tab should default to opening in _blank anyway | 19:57 |
| Unit193 | Great, nice. | 20:03 |
| flocculant | knome: can I leave the website release doodah for tomorrow to you? | 20:23 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: draft wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Beta1/Xubuntu - if you could look at the bug fix/enhancement thing that'd be nice :) | 20:24 |
| knome | is there something we specifically like to highlight on the announcement? | 21:07 |
| knome | maybe gmb/no media manager? | 21:08 |
| knome | and noto | 21:08 |
| flocculant | sounds like the sort of things which should be on it | 21:12 |
| knome | https://xubuntu.org/?p=3731&preview=true | 21:13 |
| flocculant | not sure there are any other major changes from 15.10 | 21:13 |
| flocculant | knome: thanks - looks just how I thought it would :) | 21:13 |
| knome | i checked http://dev.xubuntu.org/#tab-timeline and searched for "in development" | 21:14 |
| knome | and no, i didn't find anything specific | 21:14 |
| knome | did a few updates | 21:16 |
| flocculant | yep | 21:17 |
| knome | do we want to mention the beta on the footer? | 21:17 |
| knome | like we did before with 15.10 | 21:17 |
| knome | and | 21:18 |
| knome | This is the first beta towards the final release in October. | 21:18 |
| knome | not | 21:18 |
| flocculant | yea I think so | 21:18 |
| knome | s/15.10/16.04/ too :P | 21:18 |
| flocculant | mmm | 21:18 |
| flocculant | actually not so sure | 21:18 |
| knome | about mentioning on footer? | 21:18 |
| flocculant | yea | 21:19 |
| knome | then the beta release won't be visible on the front page at all | 21:19 |
| flocculant | as you know on Friday it's out of date | 21:19 |
| knome | (not saying this is unwanted, just saying) | 21:19 |
| flocculant | why is it not on the front page? | 21:19 |
| knome | the blog articles we show only show "articles", eg. not news | 21:20 |
| flocculant | ok | 21:20 |
| knome | that's intentional, because we don't want it to be littered with "15.10 b1 out", "15.10 b2 out", etc... | 21:20 |
| knome | (and because the latest real releases are highlighted already) | 21:20 |
| flocculant | I'm not convinced that advertising b1 is what we should do tbh - I'd rather people asked and got pointed at daily | 21:21 |
| knome | ack | 21:21 |
| knome | i was just saying so that you are aware | 21:21 |
| flocculant | yea I understand that :) | 21:21 |
| knome | (and because we did the footer thing before) | 21:21 |
| flocculant | I think when we get to RC time we can do it | 21:21 |
| knome | yeah | 21:22 |
| flocculant | yep - I've just been mulling it over as we started talking about it | 21:22 |
| knome | :) | 21:22 |
| flocculant | given the lack of testing we *know* about - I don't want much to get into that install b1 and apt-get update it till April thing :) | 21:22 |
| knome | bug 1462445 ? | 21:22 |
| ubottu | bug 1462445 in Clutter "Gtk applications start with blank screen (Clutter 1.22.4 and GtkClutter 1.6.2)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462445 | 21:23 |
| knome | bug 1515425 ? | 21:23 |
| ubottu | bug 1515425 in mousepad (Ubuntu) "natural scrolling (reverse scroll direction) not working in mousepad" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515425 | 21:23 |
| knome | re: issues we might want to highlight | 21:23 |
| flocculant | yea I've got a list - the mousepad one isn't on it :D | 21:25 |
| knome | :) | 21:25 |
| flocculant | the other mousepad one is ;) | 21:25 |
| knome | hah | 21:25 |
| knome | i should tackle that *some day* | 21:25 |
| flocculant | :D | 21:25 |
| knome | but yeah, i think i should be around during the day enough tomorrow to take care of the website update | 21:25 |
| knome | if not, and you are, feel free to go push the publish button | 21:25 |
| flocculant | well - I'm driving the train with stgraber so ... | 21:26 |
| knome | the announcement should be ready to go already considering the download link is correct | 21:26 |
| flocculant | yep | 21:26 |
| flocculant | he's apparentyl working pacific time - so it'll be later in the day I guess | 21:26 |
| knome | yeah, not EU-based | 21:27 |
| knome | we have guests afternoonish | 21:27 |
| flocculant | right | 21:27 |
| knome | but i'm not completely tied to them | 21:27 |
| knome | i mean i can check the situation etc | 21:27 |
| flocculant | I just didn't want to find I had to write the website thing at the last minute :) | 21:27 |
| knome | sure | 21:28 |
| knome | tbh, this is all *so* much easier with the tracker now | 21:28 |
| knome | it isn't like "wait, what did we change" at all | 21:28 |
| flocculant | well I don't really use it for this much - I'm more interested in what bugs I see on the 2 trackers | 21:28 |
| flocculant | yea for sure :D | 21:29 |
| knome | yeah, sure | 21:29 |
| knome | but since the critical ones are likely to be tracked on the bugs blueprint... | 21:29 |
| knome | (there's one good reason to maintain it, since you were once wondering) | 21:29 |
| flocculant | generally - I've not been good lately | 21:29 |
| knome | le sigh | 21:29 |
| knome | if IS would just get our subdomain ready, i could proceed with the wallpaper contest stuff | 21:30 |
| flocculant | :) | 21:30 |
| flocculant | \o/ 32 and 64 bit finally installed on a battery laden hardware | 21:30 |
| flocculant | knome: while back there was that blueman applet discussion where we were trying to work out what it affected | 21:33 |
| flocculant | seems to not affect 64bit on this laptop - but does on 32bit ... | 21:33 |
| knome | "heh" | 21:36 |
| Nairwolf | when new daily build are done ? | 21:58 |
| Nairwolf | is it programmed ? In order to know when I need to check with zsync | 21:59 |
| knome | always check | 21:59 |
| knome | there might be a manual rebuild | 21:59 |
| knome | usually not for dailies, but who knows. | 21:59 |
| Nairwolf | yes, but I wanted to say that I've checked few hours ago, and it wasn't updated. And flocculant told me at #xubuntu that it was updated. I wanted to know when automatic builds are done | 22:01 |
| knome | noonish UTC afaik | 22:01 |
| knome | flocculant, am i right? | 22:02 |
| flocculant | 10 am UTC for cron led builds | 22:05 |
| flocculant | milestone one's are whenever - our latest was when I kicked it off after ubiquity new landed | 22:06 |
| knome | i would still say better test every time; you never know what the 1337 people are up to. | 22:07 |
| bluesabre | knome: no noto yet, waiting until after b1 (so tomorrow night) | 22:10 |
| knome | aha | 22:10 |
| knome | done | 22:11 |
| bluesabre | Haven't reviewed the rest yet, on way home | 22:12 |
| knome | bluesabre, just that we don't forget, can you add a work item for droid->noto | 22:12 |
| bluesabre | Will do | 22:12 |
| knome | thanks | 22:12 |
| Nairwolf | knome: I can't run zsync everytinme ! Or I need to make it automatic ^^ | 22:13 |
| knome | Nairwolf, why can't you? | 22:13 |
| Nairwolf | do you mean, why I can't run rsync for example every hour ? | 22:13 |
| knome | well if you run a test every hour, you surely can run the zsync command once an hour too | 22:14 |
| knome | tbh, you likely need to run it only once per test session | 22:14 |
| knome | and that's in most cases fine | 22:14 |
| Nairwolf | I can't run a test every hour... | 22:14 |
| knome | so why would you need to run the zsync every hour then? | 22:15 |
| knome | just run it every time before you do a test. | 22:15 |
| Nairwolf | because you told me that I have to test everytime ^^ | 22:15 |
| Nairwolf | obviously, before I launch a test, I update the iso | 22:16 |
| knome | yes, every time you run a test... | 22:16 |
| knome | i didn't mean (or say) "every hour" | 22:16 |
| Nairwolf | ok, I think I misunderstood you | 22:17 |
| Nairwolf | maybe my english is not perfect. I've checked if there is a new version few hours ago, and there wasn't. The iso wasn't updated, so I was saying to myself (no need to test today). And then, few minutes ago, I've learnt that there is a new update. That's why I wanted to know when the build are done. That's all. | 22:19 |
| knome | as said, the *automatic* updates happen noonish UTC, but there can be other manual updates | 22:19 |
| knome | so that's why it makes sense to test if the ISO has changed every time you are about to run a test | 22:20 |
| Nairwolf | yes, you right. But tonight I've some freetime, and if flocculant didn't tell me that there is a new update, I wouldn't have tested it right now. | 22:22 |
| knome | sure | 22:22 |
| Nairwolf | But, that's okay, thank you for telling me the hour. | 22:22 |
| knome | that's why we have these communication channels | 22:22 |
| Nairwolf | indeed ;) | 22:22 |
| Nairwolf | thank you anyway | 22:29 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: for when we are doing milestone tests the quickest way to see if we have a rebuild is check the version listed on the tracker | 22:29 |
| Nairwolf | ok, flocculant | 22:30 |
| flocculant | it now says 201602224, if I did a rebuild now it would be 20160224.1 | 22:30 |
| flocculant | for dailies - the time is ~10.00UTC | 22:30 |
| flocculant | unless it's not building - always check the date :) | 22:30 |
| Nairwolf | thank you | 22:32 |
| flocculant | welcome | 22:32 |
| Nairwolf | I've the same bug as yesterday "the creation of swap space in partition #5 of SCI3 failed" before the time zone window... | 22:32 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: it's useful if you made note of things you've needed to ask about - so we can add information | 22:33 |
| Nairwolf | sorry, maybe I don't have understood again... | 22:36 |
| Nairwolf | It's during ubiquity, how can I get some information (like traceback ?) | 22:36 |
| Nairwolf | I don't really know which information I need to add | 22:41 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: report bug 990744 on the tracker against the testcase you followed | 22:44 |
| ubottu | bug 990744 in partman-basicfilesystems (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu installer says: The creation of swap space in partition failed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/990744 | 22:44 |
| Nairwolf | thank you flocculant, it seems to be this bug, you right ! | 22:48 |
| Nairwolf | I was starting to write a bug, I will just write a comment. Thank you | 22:48 |
| flocculant | no need to comment - you can click affects me at the top though | 22:49 |
| flocculant | important you get it on the tracker - when I do release notes I refer to the tracker for bugs people have seen | 22:49 |
| Nairwolf | yes, but I would like to add some information | 22:49 |
| Nairwolf | ok | 22:49 |
| Nairwolf | that's done | 22:52 |
| flocculant | thanks | 22:52 |
| flocculant | time for me to wander off for a while - night all | 22:52 |
| Nairwolf | good night ;) | 22:52 |
| Nairwolf | which is weird is I had the same issue yesterday, and I succeded to install the iso. Today, I can't ! | 22:58 |
| Nairwolf | I'm still stuck with this bug | 22:58 |
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