[00:10] floculant : how can I verify if this bug affects me ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/1548647 [00:10] Launchpad bug 1548647 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice uses breeze style" [Undecided,Confirmed] [00:45] Nairwolf: https://kdeonlinux.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/libreoffice3.png vs. http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/lo-writer.png [00:51] oh, thank you, the first one is much nicer ;) [00:52] I hope it will be changed ;) [00:54] actually, the latter one is what you should have. [00:56] :D [01:00] i've shut down my test-computer, but it seems that I had the second one [01:01] why this theme ? [01:01] there are actually a few things that are different in those two screenshots, so there is no clear answer [01:09] ok [01:19] gnome-software seems to do *some* stuff now [01:19] :) [01:19] branau, hello [01:19] Hey knome! How goes it? [01:19] not bad [01:20] to answer to your email: [01:20] as i said, my original intention was to work on the UI side of things [01:20] then i noticed that the uploader on your version had a possibility to upload from an URL [01:20] plus the regular metadata stuff wordpress offers [01:21] i quickly checked if there was an option to be able to remove those, but there didn't seem to be a trivial choice [01:21] i mean we only want the user to upload a file, without touching it's title, or too much else [01:22] Yeah, I thought you wanted me to use the built-in WordPress uploader, at least that was what I had understood [01:22] yeah; my code uses wp to handle the upload too [01:22] i think this is the old widget though [01:22] which turned out to be perfect for us :) [01:22] Gotcha, I must've misunderstood what you meant [01:22] less dependencies too! [01:23] i mean your version was fine too - it just had that URL thing, and other options we actually didn't want to show the user if possible [01:23] i totally didn't mean to snatch the work from you... [01:24] at the point i had the upload thing done, and having heard you say that you didn't touch the voting stuff yet, i quickly dropped that in too [01:24] It's all good, I should've clarified before jumping into it [01:24] the version you got actually saves all the votes in a single option; i've now updated the tarball into a version where each image has its own metadata with votes [01:25] (and licence/attribution in their own meta fields instead of the "content" field, so people can't mess with it now) [01:25] Sounds good, so you want me to upload that plugin so we can test it then= [01:25] ?* [01:25] it's still on temp.knome.fi [01:26] Ah, same url as before? [01:26] i've actually sent a request to the canonical IS to set up a new subdomain contest.xubuntu.org [01:26] so once we have that linked, i'll push the code to the server and set it up for further testing [01:26] Ah, sounds good [01:26] (i should also push the code to a repository under xubuntu-website in launchpad) === ochosi_ is now known as ochosi [10:55] Assuming we're leaving our monospace font as DejaVu, this should be it for the changes to desktop branches [10:55] https://code.launchpad.net/~bluesabre/xubuntu-default-settings/noto-sans [10:55] https://code.launchpad.net/~bluesabre/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.xenial.noto-sans [11:25] feed xubuntu-default-settings had 8 updates, showing the latest 3 [11:28] bluesabre, well done [12:25] flocculant: new catfish-daily package building in https://code.launchpad.net/~catfish-search/+archive/ubuntu/ppa - fixed [12:25] https://bugs.launchpad.net/catfish-search/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branche [12:25] s.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search [12:25] huhu [12:26] that failed [12:26] :D [12:26] * knome grants bluesabre the sherlock of the day award [12:26] huzzahhhh [12:26] flocculant: better link https://bugs.launchpad.net/catfish-search/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED [12:28] with the recent annoyances in clutter, might set parole [12:29] 's default back to xv and add some patches to make that better [12:29] * bluesabre can't seem to type today [12:29] will have to figure something out with mugshot :\ [12:31] ok everybody, likely going to break dev.xubuntu.org for a sec [12:31] bluesabre: what's so broken with clutter in 16.04? [12:31] (i presume totem/video still works as always) [12:32] ochosi: API change in ClutterGst... the old video sink was dropped and the new one is a pain to integrate [12:32] ochosi: the old one was a clutter actor that could be easily embedded, the new one, not so much [12:32] ochosi: I'm also apparently the only person using the API in python [12:33] no code examples >.< [12:34] will hop on one of those channels trying to get support sometime soon, haven't quite had time lately [12:35] so to summarize... in mugshot the video appears white but a photo can technically be taken [12:35] and in parole, I have code that makes it do something now, but it just pops the video window out of the player [12:41] bluesabre: what a good chap you are :) [12:47] bluesabre: still got issues with images and laptops - which probably is actually useful - not loads of rebuilds going on :D [12:48] I've managed to jury rig a laptop up so can at least test the installer doesn't crash prior to deciding to release or not [12:49] bluesabre: that sounds really meh [12:49] I'd likely still release anyway - it can install on laptop as long as remove battery/use ac [12:49] hi ochosi [12:54] flocculant: funnnn [12:55] flocculant: used gnome-software any lately? [12:55] it does some stuff now [12:55] and last night it consumed all of my ram after closing it [12:56] :D [12:56] going to try to reproduce tonight, then file a bug if I can [12:57] ochosi: yes, especially since I moved to clutter with the idea that things should be stable and supported and easy to maintain [12:57] (pretty much none of those ideals came true) [12:59] bluesabre: nope - not used it lately [12:59] still doesn't list uninstalled apps (for me) [13:00] same [13:00] but the updater functionality is starting to work, and existing apps can be launched now [13:00] really [13:01] it's telling me there are updates when there aren't [13:01] *starting* [13:01] ha ha ha [13:01] in as much as it probably could :) [13:02] I think that might be related to the "Restart & Install" button at the top of mine [13:02] scared to think of what that might do if it does not currently work [13:02] I dare you :p [13:02] I'll do it in a vm later ;) [13:02] ha ha ha [13:03] I see you are sensible then :D [13:03] only a bit [13:03] :) [13:05] bluesabre: I assume the catfish changes are in the ppa? I tested the click not working properly one I reported - that appears to work now, so I hope so :) [13:07] right - I'm off again - bbl [13:08] flocculant: yes, the "catfish-daily" package [13:55] bluesabre, have you ever used dokuwiki with mysql? [13:58] knome, nope [13:58] mhm [13:58] Time for work, bbl [13:58] i don't remember if i have, i might... [16:27] hi flocculant, I've received your message [16:28] I would like to help more, so tell me what I'm supposed to do ;) [16:30] Nairwolf: you read the QA dev docs? generally just carry on as you are for the time being - you're doing fine [16:31] assuming you're about still in May then we can look at getting you to do more for sure [16:46] flocculant: I need to admit, I'm often lost with all links to deal with (docs.xubuntu.org, ubuntu wiki, launchpad) [16:46] :D [16:47] for QA you need one :) [16:47] http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/ [16:53] ok ! [16:53] I'm gonna read that [16:53] thanks [16:53] 3 of the chapters are qa [16:53] I need to do some stuff right now, maybe I'm going to ask some questions later [16:53] yes, I've seen that [17:17] oh, I wasn't connected, what was my last message ? [17:17] I've just discovered that : https://trello.com/b/IV66JCHl/xubuntu-qa [17:17] what does mean "Priority 5" ? [17:24] it';s the 5th time it was going to get called [17:26] what is "it" ? [17:26] don't really use that anymore - not likely to make it into the yogic yinepu cycle [17:27] Can I join this team or do I need to show my work, before ? [17:27] https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-testers [17:28] you can join that - it's open team [17:29] okay, what are the implications ? Will I receive some mails ? [17:29] some - not many [17:30] ok, ok, I will see [18:54] bluesabre: I think I asked this before - lost in the logs of time though ... why do we have evince and evince-gtk? [19:21] flocculant: evince-gtk is a transitional dummy package back to evince now. [19:56] Unit193, since you mentioned it, navigation on dev. and wiki. should now work seamlessly [19:56] (seamlessly meaning that if you have dev. open and go to wiki. (or the other way), your irc tab will be reset) [19:57] but maybe the irc tab should default to opening in _blank anyway [20:03] Great, nice. [20:23] knome: can I leave the website release doodah for tomorrow to you? [20:24] bluesabre: draft wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Beta1/Xubuntu - if you could look at the bug fix/enhancement thing that'd be nice :) [21:07] is there something we specifically like to highlight on the announcement? [21:08] maybe gmb/no media manager? [21:08] and noto [21:12] sounds like the sort of things which should be on it [21:13] https://xubuntu.org/?p=3731&preview=true [21:13] not sure there are any other major changes from 15.10 [21:13] knome: thanks - looks just how I thought it would :) [21:14] i checked http://dev.xubuntu.org/#tab-timeline and searched for "in development" [21:14] and no, i didn't find anything specific [21:16] did a few updates [21:17] yep [21:17] do we want to mention the beta on the footer? [21:17] like we did before with 15.10 [21:18] and [21:18] This is the first beta towards the final release in October. [21:18] not [21:18] yea I think so [21:18] s/15.10/16.04/ too :P [21:18] mmm [21:18] actually not so sure [21:18] about mentioning on footer? [21:19] yea [21:19] then the beta release won't be visible on the front page at all [21:19] as you know on Friday it's out of date [21:19] (not saying this is unwanted, just saying) [21:19] why is it not on the front page? [21:20] the blog articles we show only show "articles", eg. not news [21:20] ok [21:20] that's intentional, because we don't want it to be littered with "15.10 b1 out", "15.10 b2 out", etc... [21:20] (and because the latest real releases are highlighted already) [21:21] I'm not convinced that advertising b1 is what we should do tbh - I'd rather people asked and got pointed at daily [21:21] ack [21:21] i was just saying so that you are aware [21:21] yea I understand that :) [21:21] (and because we did the footer thing before) [21:21] I think when we get to RC time we can do it [21:22] yeah [21:22] yep - I've just been mulling it over as we started talking about it [21:22] :) [21:22] given the lack of testing we *know* about - I don't want much to get into that install b1 and apt-get update it till April thing :) [21:22] bug 1462445 ? [21:23] bug 1462445 in Clutter "Gtk applications start with blank screen (Clutter 1.22.4 and GtkClutter 1.6.2)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1462445 [21:23] bug 1515425 ? [21:23] bug 1515425 in mousepad (Ubuntu) "natural scrolling (reverse scroll direction) not working in mousepad" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1515425 [21:23] re: issues we might want to highlight [21:25] yea I've got a list - the mousepad one isn't on it :D [21:25] :) [21:25] the other mousepad one is ;) [21:25] hah [21:25] i should tackle that *some day* [21:25] :D [21:25] but yeah, i think i should be around during the day enough tomorrow to take care of the website update [21:25] if not, and you are, feel free to go push the publish button [21:26] well - I'm driving the train with stgraber so ... [21:26] the announcement should be ready to go already considering the download link is correct [21:26] yep [21:26] he's apparentyl working pacific time - so it'll be later in the day I guess [21:27] yeah, not EU-based [21:27] we have guests afternoonish [21:27] right [21:27] but i'm not completely tied to them [21:27] i mean i can check the situation etc [21:27] I just didn't want to find I had to write the website thing at the last minute :) [21:28] sure [21:28] tbh, this is all *so* much easier with the tracker now [21:28] it isn't like "wait, what did we change" at all [21:28] well I don't really use it for this much - I'm more interested in what bugs I see on the 2 trackers [21:29] yea for sure :D [21:29] yeah, sure [21:29] but since the critical ones are likely to be tracked on the bugs blueprint... [21:29] (there's one good reason to maintain it, since you were once wondering) [21:29] generally - I've not been good lately [21:29] le sigh [21:30] if IS would just get our subdomain ready, i could proceed with the wallpaper contest stuff [21:30] :) [21:30] \o/ 32 and 64 bit finally installed on a battery laden hardware [21:33] knome: while back there was that blueman applet discussion where we were trying to work out what it affected [21:33] seems to not affect 64bit on this laptop - but does on 32bit ... [21:36] "heh" [21:58] when new daily build are done ? [21:59] is it programmed ? In order to know when I need to check with zsync [21:59] always check [21:59] there might be a manual rebuild [21:59] usually not for dailies, but who knows. [22:01] yes, but I wanted to say that I've checked few hours ago, and it wasn't updated. And flocculant told me at #xubuntu that it was updated. I wanted to know when automatic builds are done [22:01] noonish UTC afaik [22:02] flocculant, am i right? [22:05] 10 am UTC for cron led builds [22:06] milestone one's are whenever - our latest was when I kicked it off after ubiquity new landed [22:07] i would still say better test every time; you never know what the 1337 people are up to. [22:10] knome: no noto yet, waiting until after b1 (so tomorrow night) [22:10] aha [22:11] done [22:12] Haven't reviewed the rest yet, on way home [22:12] bluesabre, just that we don't forget, can you add a work item for droid->noto [22:12] Will do [22:12] thanks [22:13] knome: I can't run zsync everytinme ! Or I need to make it automatic ^^ [22:13] Nairwolf, why can't you? [22:13] do you mean, why I can't run rsync for example every hour ? [22:14] well if you run a test every hour, you surely can run the zsync command once an hour too [22:14] tbh, you likely need to run it only once per test session [22:14] and that's in most cases fine [22:14] I can't run a test every hour... [22:15] so why would you need to run the zsync every hour then? [22:15] just run it every time before you do a test. [22:15] because you told me that I have to test everytime ^^ [22:16] obviously, before I launch a test, I update the iso [22:16] yes, every time you run a test... [22:16] i didn't mean (or say) "every hour" [22:17] ok, I think I misunderstood you [22:19] maybe my english is not perfect. I've checked if there is a new version few hours ago, and there wasn't. The iso wasn't updated, so I was saying to myself (no need to test today). And then, few minutes ago, I've learnt that there is a new update. That's why I wanted to know when the build are done. That's all. [22:19] as said, the *automatic* updates happen noonish UTC, but there can be other manual updates [22:20] so that's why it makes sense to test if the ISO has changed every time you are about to run a test [22:22] yes, you right. But tonight I've some freetime, and if flocculant didn't tell me that there is a new update, I wouldn't have tested it right now. [22:22] sure [22:22] But, that's okay, thank you for telling me the hour. [22:22] that's why we have these communication channels [22:22] indeed ;) [22:29] thank you anyway [22:29] Nairwolf: for when we are doing milestone tests the quickest way to see if we have a rebuild is check the version listed on the tracker [22:30] ok, flocculant [22:30] it now says 201602224, if I did a rebuild now it would be 20160224.1 [22:30] for dailies - the time is ~10.00UTC [22:30] unless it's not building - always check the date :) [22:32] thank you [22:32] welcome [22:32] I've the same bug as yesterday "the creation of swap space in partition #5 of SCI3 failed" before the time zone window... [22:33] Nairwolf: it's useful if you made note of things you've needed to ask about - so we can add information [22:36] sorry, maybe I don't have understood again... [22:36] It's during ubiquity, how can I get some information (like traceback ?) [22:41] I don't really know which information I need to add [22:44] Nairwolf: report bug 990744 on the tracker against the testcase you followed [22:44] bug 990744 in partman-basicfilesystems (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu installer says: The creation of swap space in partition failed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/990744 [22:48] thank you flocculant, it seems to be this bug, you right ! [22:48] I was starting to write a bug, I will just write a comment. Thank you [22:49] no need to comment - you can click affects me at the top though [22:49] important you get it on the tracker - when I do release notes I refer to the tracker for bugs people have seen [22:49] yes, but I would like to add some information [22:49] ok [22:52] that's done [22:52] thanks [22:52] time for me to wander off for a while - night all [22:52] good night ;) [22:58] which is weird is I had the same issue yesterday, and I succeded to install the iso. Today, I can't ! [22:58] I'm still stuck with this bug