[10:20] pushed mesa 11.2.0-rc1 to ppa:tjaalton/ppa [14:20] Hi, is xserver-xorg-lts-wily supposed to be installable in 14.04/amd64? Its dependencies are not satisfiable here... (a long list) [14:21] see the wiki on lts kernels [14:21] it needs a special command to pull in all that's needed.. [14:22] Ah, thanks, looking... [14:28] sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily [14:28] ...doesn't do it for me either [14:28] I also removed all my custom sources.list, in case the interfered, they didn't [14:29] what does it say? [14:30] Maybe the problem is related to me having installed the -lts-vivid ones first? [14:30] likely [14:30] Let me paste both the apt-get and aptitude outputs, as apt-get is vague [14:30] need to revert to stock packages first [14:31] http://paste.ubuntu.com/15197494/ [14:31] (apt-get) [14:31] OK, reverting, thank you... [14:31] That was not the case in 12.04 btw [14:32] It was possible to e.g. install 12.04.3 and upgrade to 12.04.4 [14:32] don't think i've even tried a direct upgrade [14:33] maybe wiki is missing some pkg [14:33] Meh downgrading also has issues :-/ [14:33] Digging deeper... [14:36] My xorg-vivid installation line was: http://paste.debian.net/403581/ [14:37] that command works on a trusty chroot [14:38] I'm guessing the xorg-vivid package pulled some things that apt doesn't know how to get rid of now [14:38] do you have some dev pkgs installed? [14:39] guess that's not the issue here tho [14:39] http://paste.debian.net/403583/ [14:40] right [14:45] * alkisg tries it partially, first installing linux-generic, rebooting, removing linux-*lts-vivid and then going on to xorg [14:45] the error looks familiar, though I can't remember what it could be.. [14:46] the kernel is totally separate iirc [14:46] at least there should be no conflicts [14:47] oh, haha. the chroot has no X by default [14:47] :) [14:48] tjaalton: my bad, the second command (multiarch) did it [14:49] Maybe it's related to wine pulling wine:i386 [14:49] might be [14:49] looks like wily installs fine over vivid, at least on the chroot [14:50] so the revert to stock was just for robustness testing [14:50] not actually needed [14:50] Got it, thanks a lot tjaalton :) [14:51] I should install sudo on all chroots.. .) [14:51] :) [14:51] schroot rocks [14:53] Unrelated, will we ever be able to install the nvidia* drivers and fglrx* drivers in a system, and only have them loaded when they detect an actual nvidia or fglrx card? [14:53] It's been a long standing wish of ltsp users :) [14:54] fglrx is gone [14:54] finally [14:54] 16.04 won't have it [14:54] Ah, that's one good thing! [14:54] libglvnd will happen once redhat (ajax) makes it work [14:54] then you can have nvidia and mesa installed [14:54] or something like that [14:54] Finally! :) [14:55] * alkisg wishes he'll see that in 18.04 [14:55] and vulkan was designed with this in mind [14:55] I guess we can have it backported, it's just one library [14:55] If it goes in some lts* stack for 16.04, even better!!! [14:56] yeah ajax has said he'll look into it in the coming months [14:56] so maybe 16.10 timeframe, maybe not [14:57] Thank you tjaalton, rebooting to the newer -wily stack... :) [14:58] yw [15:00] All good! Purging the -vivid kernel... [17:21] Mmm tjaalton not sure why the crashes are happening again [17:21] It only happens when I move my second screen from the default location on the right to the left [17:22] That's what happened before as well [17:23] This is the monitors.xml config that causes it to happen, not sure what's so special about it: https://gist.github.com/Marlinc/e4cde9f72b600ca32197 [17:26] marlinc: feel free to test ppa:canonical-x/x-staging now, it works with nvidia prime [17:34] Okay, will do that ;) [17:40] Okay, this might be a bit unfair as I have a ton of updates that I got to install but lets see what happens [17:50] It appears to work tjaalton [17:50] Any time frame on the stuff arriving in main and universe? [17:50] Need me to do some more testing? [17:54] early next week [17:57] Anything you'd like me to test tjaalton? If not I'll reboot, thanks a lot :) [17:58] if it works then fine [17:58] that's enough for me [18:00] Okay :)