[06:40] <zequence> OvenWerks: Bumber. Should ask someone with skills, then
[07:01] <zequence> I must have done something wrong with whisker configs. Icon still not showing
[07:02] <zequence> Also, we have that old problem with Ubuntu indicators showing when they shouldn't
[08:28] <flocculant> zequence: will you be doing release notes for beta 1? 
[08:36] <zequence> flocculant: I'll gladly skip that.
[08:36] <zequence> I'll wait until a later release
[11:23] <sakrecoer_> flocculant: what should the release note look like? or rather, i can probably help.
[11:23] <sakrecoer_> flocculant: but at the moment, there seem to be no beta1 iso available
[11:42] <sakrecoer_> flocculant: i found this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-9.1 i'm going to copy it to write a skelleton for US :p
[11:49] <sakrecoer_> okok.. now i get it with the iso links and current things...
[12:16] <zequence> Where are the current release notes, anyway?
[12:17] <zequence> Nothing in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[12:18] <zequence> sakrecoer_: The latest ISOs are available. They were built yesterday http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/357/builds
[12:21] <zequence> anyone able to test the i386 ISO?
[12:28] <sakrecoer_> zequence: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Beta1
[12:29] <zequence> sakrecoer_: Ah, right
[12:29] <sakrecoer_> i will create now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Beta1/UbuntuStudio
[12:29] <zequence> Ok
[12:30] <zequence> You may use other pages as reference, but in fact, there will be very little to report at this time about changes
[12:30] <zequence> Mostly updated packages, which is in some way self understood
[12:31] <zequence> I'm zsyncing the i386 image. Will need to do the tests during a boat ride, and later in the studio, but that should be fine
[12:42] <flocculant> zequence sakrecoer_ - you don't have to have notes - I just won't link any in the release announcement :)
[12:49] <sakrecoer_> flocculant: we do have this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Beta1/UbuntuStudio
[12:49] <flocculant> This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. 
[12:49] <flocculant> that's what I see - hence me saying :)
[12:50] <sakrecoer_> argggh!!!
[12:50] <sakrecoer_> i just spent 1 h working on it
[12:50] <flocculant> then when you go back it should tell you about the draft :)
[12:50] <sakrecoer_> and it didn't save... i'm locked out
[12:51] <flocculant> sakrecoer_: ok - I'll link to it anyway - then when it's live it'll be ready to roll :)
[12:51] <sakrecoer_> flocculant: i can't login to wiki anymore...
[12:52] <flocculant> maybe IS have locked it again
[12:53] <sakrecoer_> flocculant: saved it in a textfiles first \o/
[12:53] <flocculant> \o/
[12:54] <sakrecoer_> yupp, wiki is on hold.
[12:55] <sakrecoer_> i have to desynchronise with maintainensies (gah, that word)
[12:56] <sakrecoer_> trying to say is: maintainer of wiki and i seem to work at the same hours
[12:59] <sakrecoer_> tomorrow i will have the priviledge to highfive zequence in  live and direct :)
[15:25] <zequence> I was unable to install the i386. ubiquity bug
[15:26] <zequence> No one else doing any testing?
[15:26] <zequence> I won't release the Beta 1 until someone confirms it installs
[15:28] <zequence> Didn't have internet, so couldn't report a bug
[15:29] <zequence> Ok, got the amd64 installer to start at least.
[15:36] <OvenWerks> zequence: zsyncing now.
[15:43] <zequence> OvenWerks: Alright
[15:44] <zequence> Hi there Rosco2 
[15:46] <Rosco2> Hi there
[15:49] <Rosco2> Arggh. Enigmail tells me it needs updating everytime I open an email!
[15:54] <flocculant> zequence: did anyone from your release team do a rebuild? 
[15:54] <flocculant> I'm guessing not if you get ubiquity bug
[15:55] <flocculant> 64 bit did 
[15:55] <flocculant> which is why it worked for you :)
[15:57] <zequence> flocculant: I rebuilt both
[15:57] <zequence> ubiquity didn't even start
[15:58] <zequence> on i386
[15:59] <zequence> Rosco2: Any chance you can set the ISOs ready once someone has confirmed the i386 installs?
[15:59] <zequence> Would be good to get that done within an hour or two if possible
[15:59] <zequence> I'm a little busy currently. Will have some time in an hour or two
[15:59] <zequence> With that I got to go. bbl
[16:00] <Rosco2> SUre - just firing up the tracker now
[16:00] <flocculant> zequence: 32bit is showing the old ubiquity but new upower
[16:01] <flocculant> rebuilding it now
[16:04] <OvenWerks> flocculant: so I will need to update my 32bit DL again?
[16:05] <flocculant> OvenWerks: not yet - it's not done
[16:05] <OvenWerks> flocculant: My zsync isn't done either :)
[16:05] <flocculant> zequence: ubiquity working smoketest sufficient? 
[16:05] <flocculant> OvenWerks: ha ha 
[16:06] <flocculant> 30 minutes away at least
[16:07] <OvenWerks> flocculant: I will keep dling as my old copy was less than 50% right.
[16:07] <flocculant> oh yea - quite a way then :D
[16:15] <flocculant> sakrecoer_: ftr - your release note is still 'new'
[16:18] <Rosco2> 64 bit marked ready
[16:40] <Rosco2> going to eat something
[16:40] <Rosco2> I see that 32 bit rebuild is finished
[16:41] <Rosco2> Will check in here and there to see how OvenWerks is getting on
[16:41] <flocculant> just zsyncing 32 bit - will do an install smoketest for you
[16:42] <Rosco2> cheers
[16:42] <Rosco2> I get in trouble if I don't come when called :-)
[16:42] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[17:03] <flocculant> Rosco2: ok - that installed as expected
[17:06] <Rosco2> thanks
[17:07] <Rosco2> OvenWrks: Are you still planning to give 32 bit a spin?
[17:07] <Rosco2>  OvenWerks:
[17:09] <OvenWerks> Rosco2: im at 77% dl.
[17:10] <Rosco2> no probs
[18:17] <zequence> Got the latest i386 too. ubiquity started, so I'm assuming it'll work. Installing now
[18:18]  * OvenWerks is too slow.
[18:19] <Rosco2> :-)
[18:45] <flocculant> Rosco2 zequence how goes it? 
[18:46] <flocculant> looking a publishing ~ 19:30 UTC
[18:49] <Rosco2> Had no 386 image to zdiff - so waited for Len & Kaj
[18:49] <Rosco2> Assume they should be done by then - just confirmation anyway
[18:49] <flocculant> k - thanks Rosco2 :)
[18:50] <Rosco2> Getting image now anyway for next time
[18:50] <flocculant> :)
[18:54] <OvenWerks> zequence: in the live session in /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/xfce4/whiskermenu/defaults.rc I find a line: button-icon=xubuntu-logo-menu
[18:54] <zequence> flocculant: Still installing. Almost finished
[18:55] <zequence> OvenWerks: Ok
[18:55] <OvenWerks> button-icon=ubuntustudio-logo-menu might work better
[19:02] <OvenWerks> Parole certainly crashes on start from context. xine (old ancient xine) works just fine as always.
[19:11] <OvenWerks> ubiquity no longer shows the connected to network/you have enough disk space info.
[19:24] <flocculant> OvenWerks: that's expected after a change ot it
[19:25] <flocculant> zequence: ready? 
[19:26] <flocculant> OvenWerks: "  * Redesign the prepare screen for less clutter." http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/u/ubiquity/ubiquity_2.21.46/changelog
[19:27] <flocculant> basically you will see the disk size warning if size too small, you'll see net one if no network
[19:27] <flocculant> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1549045/comments/3
[19:31] <flocculant> OvenWerks: did it install ok - any blockers you can see?
[19:37] <flocculant> Rosco2: - you ok to mark them? 
[19:38] <Rosco2> Yeah - I'll mark it. Looks like at least Len was able to boot into the live image from IRC chatter
[19:38] <flocculant> yep
[19:39] <flocculant> Kaj had almost finished installing 30 minutes
[19:39] <Rosco2> Done
[19:39] <flocculant> cheers :)
[19:40] <flocculant> sooner they start publishing the sooner I can publish the website page and turn off for the night :)
[19:41] <Rosco2> We can still work on what they found when back online
[19:41] <flocculant> yea ofc - it's all out of date tomorrow :)
[20:00]  * OvenWerks has installed as well. lots of bugs in the installed version though.
[20:09] <OvenWerks> ACK! synaptic is not installed by default. USC is not in my trusted list
[20:12]  * OvenWerks tried to imagine what would happen if someone used USC to install jackd1...
[20:14] <flocculant> OvenWerks: usc is on it's way out
[20:16] <Rosco2> thanks all for the thorough testing. Taking a short screen break
[20:17] <OvenWerks> flocculant: we used to ship synaptic, but I am guessing it got dropped in one of the sync to xubuntu events.
[20:18] <zequence> Sorry, I got caught up in something. Installed ok
[20:19] <OvenWerks> zequence: no problem, it all got done. bugged plymouth and -menu (irc)
[20:20] <zequence> plymouth won't work in virtuabox, but we probably need to fix it also for real macines
[20:20] <zequence> machines*
[20:25] <flocculant> OvenWerks: we used to - then it dropped for usc - that's going from Ubuntu (and unmaintained afaik) - replaced by gnome software
[20:25] <flocculant> which I think is awful tbh
[20:25] <flocculant> I apt-get usually or synaptic
[20:26] <OvenWerks> flocculant: synaptic is a wonderful tool. It is an easy gui to use to find out what files a package has installed where, what depends for a package are.
[20:26] <flocculant> yea
[20:27] <OvenWerks> USC just installs whatever the consquences
[20:28]  * OvenWerks installs gnome software for a look
[20:29] <flocculant> good luck 
[20:30] <OvenWerks> GS doesn't give much info about a package either.
[20:30] <flocculant> yep
[20:43] <OvenWerks> zequence: the fix I meantioned above: 10:54 < OvenWerks> zequence: in the live session in  /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/xfce4/whiskermenu/defaults.rc I find a  line: button-icon=xubuntu-logo-menu
[20:45] <OvenWerks> is confirmed to work. Editted that file and removed file ~/.config/xfce4/panel/whiskermenu*.rc
[21:12] <zequence> Would you care to change it in -default-settings?
[21:13] <zequence> I can do that later too, no problem
[21:13] <zequence> Just heading to bed now
[21:16] <OvenWerks> zequence: good night.
[21:26] <OvenWerks> wierd... the file in -settings is not the same as the installed file.
[21:53] <OvenWerks> Ah, ubuntu-default-settings 0.57 was never uploaded/released.
[22:04] <OvenWerks> zequence: I made a slight change to the icon filename to use the menu specific file rather than the generic logo, but I have not changed the changelog because I don't know if it should be upped a release or still use 0.57 which was never uploaded in which case the changelog entry is fine.
[22:05] <OvenWerks> zequence: also feel free to roll back the commit and release as was for 0.57  :)
[22:12] <OvenWerks> don't ask for a sync for jackd (1 I think) right now. Something in the last few commits is bad.