[05:32] <zhuowei> john-mcaleely, do you know where the device tree for the Aquaris M10 tablet is stored? I found the kernel source on the Avila page on Launchpad but can't find the Android board config stuff.
[06:02] <zhuowei> So is there any information on porting Ubuntu Touch with a 64-bit Android container?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> zhuowei: there is a porting guide in the topic
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> zhuowei: and maybe the >XDA forums have anything usefull?
[06:05] <zhuowei> But I believe the only device with a 64-bit container is the Aquaris M10 (Frieza) device, so I'm not sure whether there's any extra steps I need to take to port to a 64-bit device
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> zhuowei: maybe download the m10 image of ubuntu touch and investigate its content?
[06:09] <zhuowei> I did: the system.img for the container is a 64-bit Android environment, but the kernel ramdisk's a 32-bit environment
[06:10] <zhuowei> There are no 64-bit specific files other than the system.img (no changes to lxc-android-config or anything) So does that mean that 64-bit devices will just work?
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> well im not a porting expert myself, so wont be of any help on this
[06:12] <zhuowei> ok. Thank you so much for your help.
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> zhuowei: there is also the #snappy channel
[06:42] <zhuowei> Does libhybris work with Android 6.0-based devices yet?
[06:55] <zhuowei> Libhybris chooses the supported version of Android at build type (by installing the appropriate Android headers package), so how is Ubuntu Touch able to support devices with different Android container versions with the same libhybris binary package?
[07:15] <markwalt> I'm curious to know how Ubuntu Touch compares to Android with respect to general performance.  I've got an older HTC tablet I might want to try to put it on, and it's kind of slow.  Will Ubuntu Touch likely be slower?
[07:49] <_Sponge> popey, Which is the channel for Arm devices ?
[08:14] <ogra_> _Sponge, what kind of arm devices .... there is a generic #ubuntu-arm
[08:14] <ogra_> (but thats more for developer boards and such )
[08:24] <ogra_> davmor2, jibel, do you have a bug open for the "everything is transparent on rc-proposed" that i see since the weekend (indicators, splash screens on the mx4)
[08:24] <ogra_> err ... since mid-week, sorry
[08:24] <jibel> ogra_, yes
[08:25] <ogra_> good :)
[08:25] <jibel> ogra_, it's bug 1549226
[08:25] <ubot5`> bug 1549226 in Canonical System Image "On arale; top panel drop down menu is semi-transparent and items are unreadable" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1549226
[08:25]  * ogra_ me-too's
[09:06] <davmor2> ogra_: there is a bug talk to saviq
[09:06] <davmor2> ogra_: I assume you are on meizu
[09:07] <ogra_> davmor2, yeah, seems there is already a fix for Mir 0.20.1
[09:12] <matv1> there have been lots of anouncements about the sony xperia port recently but I cannot find any image. Can anyone help me find it?
[12:48] <jgdx> seb128, do you have time for a Settings discussion?
[13:48] <sil2100> Elleo: hey! Any news on the ubuntu-keyboard fonts issue? I see the silo is still not marked as tested
[13:48] <sil2100> Elleo: doko is poking me about it...
[13:48] <sil2100> Elleo: it's somewhat critical from the xenial POV
[13:52] <Elleo> sil2100: yeah, just need to check the japanese stuff with fronts-droid-fallback; is it okay us having a dependency on "fonts-droid | fonts-droid-fallback"?
[14:23] <predator8bit> hello, I have a Bq Aquaris E5 that I just updated and it won't boot
[14:25] <predator8bit> any ideas on how to fix it?
[14:28] <la_juyis> predator8bit, hi! had you made your system rw?
[14:29] <predator8bit> um, I did in the past but I always restarted after so it would go back to read only
[14:30] <la_juyis> predator8bit, where does it get stuck at booting?
[14:31] <predator8bit> the ubuntu boot logo with the dots, the dots turn from white to orange over and over again and the screen flickers when it gets to the end and stars again
[14:33] <la_juyis> predator8bit, can you boot to fastboot mode?
[14:33] <predator8bit> yes
[14:36] <predator8bit> so where do I grab the image from to flash onto my device?
[14:41] <la_juyis> predator8bit, could you first grab some logs for us?
[14:41] <predator8bit> well if you tell me how
[14:41] <la_juyis> we're interested in  /var/log/syslog and the content of /home/phablet/.cache/upstart
[14:42] <predator8bit> how do I access it?
[14:42] <predator8bit> the phone is plugged in and I started it in fastboot mode
[14:42] <ogra_> would also be intersting to know if thats a virgin stable image or if you tinkered in any way with it (made it writable, ever used apt on it etc)
[14:43] <predator8bit> I used apt
[14:43] <ogra_> and how the "doesnt boot" manifest (sometimes updates need to re-spin the security policies, that can take a while on first boot)
[14:43] <ogra_> well, then you need to re-flash indeed
[14:44] <ogra_> apt breaks all supported update methods on the phone
[14:46] <predator8bit> so I tried to git clone git@github.com:bq/aquaris-E5.git
[14:46] <predator8bit> but it says I don't have permission
[14:47] <predator8bit> "Please make sure you have the correct access rights and the repository exists."
[14:47] <la_juyis> predator8bit, you mean to reflash the phone?
[14:47] <predator8bit> yeah, why not?
[14:48] <ogra_> you wouldnt re-flash it from the kernel source tree ;)
[14:48] <ogra_> but using ubuntu-device-flash with a flashable image
[14:48] <predator8bit> yeah but ddg gave me no links
[14:48] <predator8bit> just on how to purchase the devices
[14:49] <la_juyis> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/
[14:49] <la_juyis> ddg?
[14:49] <la_juyis> ah! duck duck go
[14:50] <predator8bit> yea ddg.gg
[14:53] <sil2100> Elleo: hm, I would need to double-check that
[14:53] <Elleo> sil2100: okay
[14:54] <Elleo> sil2100: otherwise fonts-droid-fallback will also need moving into the vivid overlay
[14:55] <sil2100> Elleo: I would say we'd need copying fonts-droid-fallback then too - is it similarily sized?
[14:57] <Elleo> sil2100: it's smaller, but currently fonts-droid-fallback isn't in vivid either
[14:57] <Elleo> sil2100: err, xenial
[14:57] <Elleo> sil2100: since I think it's created from the updated source package that removes fonts-droid
[14:58] <la_juyis> predator8bit, just curious, had you reported to BQ?
[14:58] <predator8bit> nope, I started searching for an image to flash onto my phone and when I didn't find any I came here
[14:58] <sil2100> Elleo: hm, I suppose using a dep like fonts-droid-fallback | fonts-droid might be good
[14:58] <Elleo> sil2100: so presumably ubuntu-keyboard would need to be landed in xenial alongside that package update and a simultaneous copy of the package to the vivid overlay
[14:58] <Elleo> sil2100: yeah, it keeps landing much simpler
[14:58] <mariogrip> mhall119: ping
[14:59] <sil2100> Elleo: I would make sure the fallback is the first one though, so it's clear we want to get rid of the other dep ASAP
[14:59] <Elleo> sil2100: okay
[14:59] <predator8bit> but actually I had tat developer.ubuntu.com link open so I found it I just didn't think it was the right site at a quick glance
[15:00] <mhall119> mariogrip: pong
[15:02] <jgdx> pete-woods, hey, I saw pptp stuff in the Connectivity API, does this mean, for your part, bug 1523946 is fixed?
[15:02] <ubot5`> bug 1523946 in Canonical System Image "PPTP VPN support" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1523946
[15:05] <mariogrip> mhall119: sorry for the delay to add the logs, something unexpected happen to my family so I to take 2 days off.
[15:06] <mariogrip> that's why I haven't been active
[15:06] <pete-woods> jgdx: yeah, that's sorted out in the API, see the trunk of indicator-network again for how the UI side works
[15:07] <pete-woods> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-network/trunk/files/head:/src/vpn-editor/
 also it is totally my fault for updating using apt all the time, so I have nothing to report to Bq
[15:08] <mhall119> mariogrip: no worries, family always comes first
[15:08] <mhall119> I hope all is well, or at least better
[15:10] <mariogrip> mhall119: All is well now, everything went to right way, somewhat back to normal now
[15:10] <mhall119> glad to hear it :)
[15:12] <mariogrip> :)
[15:12] <la_juyis> predator8bit, it's ok, it's only because i talk to them about cases, just to know if this was a duplicate or not :)
[15:13] <faenil> TOO ALL APP DEVELOPERS: PLEASE READ CAREFULLY
[15:13] <faenil> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg18479.html
[15:13] <faenil> TOO ALL APP DEVELOPERS: PLEASE READ CAREFULLY ^
[15:13] <mariogrip> mhall119: while I have been gone, lot's of new devices are fully founded: https://devices.ubports.com/#/
[15:16] <mariogrip> so, it seems like nexus 6 and nexus 5x are coming
[15:20] <dobey> predator8bit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Working_with_ubuntu-device-flash is the important bit you need. if you have the E5, you will need the recovery-vegetahd.img as listed in that table, to pass as the --recovery-image argument to ubuntu-device-flash.
[15:20] <predator8bit> thanks
[15:20] <dobey> predator8bit: also, if you wish to install additional debian packages for doing compiling on the phone or such, you should see https://askubuntu.com/questions/620740/recommended-way-to-install-regularcli-deb-packages-on-ubuntu-phone/623311#623311
[15:23] <mhall119> kenvandine: looks like silo0 has a clean upgrade path on mako rc-proposed today, I'm giving it a try
[15:24] <mhall119> mariogrip: now we just need to get people working on them :)
[15:24] <mariogrip> mhall119: Jup :)
[15:24] <mariogrip> mhall119: You need to learn porting :P
[15:25] <mhall119> heh
[15:25] <mhall119> I see what you did there :)
[15:25] <mariogrip> :)
[15:25] <ogra_> mariogrip, mhall119 has more subtle ways ... "win one of ten bq M10 tablets for porting to a new device"
[15:25] <ogra_> ;)
[15:26] <mhall119> ogra_: does that mean you have 10 tablets for me to give away?
[15:26] <mariogrip> ogra_: haha x)
[15:26] <ogra_> mhall119, now, thats something to talk to your manager about ;)
[15:27] <mhall119> oh? so dpm has 10 tablets for me? :)
[15:28] <ogra_> for sure he does !
[15:28] <mhall119> dpm: ogra_ says he's going to give you some tablets ;)
[15:28] <ogra_> LOL
[15:28] <mariogrip> :P
[15:28] <dpm> mhall119, they're on e-bay, if you make me a good offer, you can be the winner!
[15:29] <mhall119> woohoo!
[15:29] <mhall119> $2
[15:29] <mariogrip> "win"
[15:29] <mariogrip> shipping 500$
[15:29] <dpm> lol
[15:29] <dpm> mariogrip, an experienced e-bayer
[15:30] <mariogrip> haha xP
[15:30] <kenvandine> mhall119, brave!
[15:30] <kenvandine> barry, did you get s-i-d into a ppa?
[15:31] <mhall119> kenvandine: hey,the Wi-Fi Displays page works now
[15:31] <kenvandine> woot
[15:31] <kenvandine> i knew it would :)
[15:31] <mhall119> let's see if it'll survive a reboot
[15:32]  * ogra_ hopes someone attached the serial cable to mhall119 in case there are probs
[15:34] <mhall119> ogra_: oh ye of little faith
[15:34] <ogra_> heh
[15:34]  * mhall119 was a little doubtful there himself
[15:35] <mhall119> well, it booted back okay, but still can't connect to my TV :(
[15:36] <mariogrip> when is the bq m10 going on sale? (me want it)
[15:39] <barry> kenvandine: not yet
[15:42] <kenvandine> barry, ok, i'm ready to test when ever you do
[15:42] <barry> kenvandine: k
[15:42] <kenvandine> i tried to build a package from your git branch, but no debian dir
[15:43] <barry> kenvandine: yep
[15:52] <Zenithy> Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to force rotation on the lock screen?
[16:26] <predator8bit> phew finally finished with the flashing
[16:29] <davmor2> Zenithy: no, it is set for phones and tablets in a fixed orientation
[16:30] <Zenithy> davmor2 awh, alright thanks! Was hoping to bring some life into my N4. Bottom part of the screen is no longer responsive..
[16:31] <davmor2> Zenithy: don't add a pin or password then swipe works
[16:31] <Zenithy> Yeah indeed, but I can't get past the initial tutorial either without the bottom part.
[16:31] <predator8bit> I hate how the launcher always pops up when I try to unlock my phone so then I have to try from the other direction
[16:32] <Zenithy> I tried with --developer-mode to get access to adb and at least I could do the welcome-wizard disable.
[16:33] <Zenithy> But developer mode requires a password which locks the lockscreen for me again haha
[16:33] <ogra_> predator8bit, just swipe furtherit will go to the unlock screen too
[16:34] <ogra_> *further it
[16:34] <ogra_> the launcher showing up wont stop from getting to the unlock screen
[16:34] <predator8bit> yeah I managed to pull that off once
[16:34] <Zenithy> I can probably make it work with a usb OTG for a mouse right?
[16:34] <predator8bit> but most of the time I just want to unlock it swiftly so it is in the way
[16:48] <jgdx> mpt, forgot. Here's the dump: http://i.imgur.com/vmc0ELz.png
[18:02] <edude03> Is the port for the Z1 actually released?
[18:53] <farad> is it possible to add new separate calendars to the calendar app using syncevolution?
[19:02] <farad> and by the way, does somebody know, how the builtin birthday calender works?
[19:03] <farad> I would expect to be able to enter birthdays in the contacts app, and see them there
[19:08] <JanC> farad: I think there are bugs/feature requests for those
[19:10] <farad> for the birthday calendar or adding new calendars?
[19:20] <kazord> https://uappexplorer.com/app/rssreaderscope.kazord
[19:20] <kazord> did someone tested ? (and can give feedback) ?
[19:29] <timeax> Hi guys somebody know how to remove chromium and dalvik from a build of ubuntu touch?
[19:29] <dobey> dalvik and chromium?
[19:31] <timeax> Yep this are useless on ubuntu touch
[19:31] <dobey> dalvik and chromium aren't in the build afaik
[19:31] <dobey> at least, they aren't in the image
[19:32] <timeax> This are both included in the aries sources
[19:32] <timeax> So when i make the build it will be ported in it too
[19:32] <dobey> are they actually in the final image though?
[19:33] <timeax> I still havent completed the build
[19:33] <timeax> I'm having issues in some chromium libraries
[19:34] <dobey> oh
[19:34] <timeax> And i wanna remove it so i hopefully could complete the build
[19:34] <dobey> i guess there is maybe something in the makefile to not build it, or you can modify it then
[19:35] <timeax> Yep i have to modify some mk file but which one?
[19:35] <timeax> I dont know where to search
[19:35] <timeax> There are toooooo manyyyy folders lol
[19:35] <timeax> Thats why i asked
[19:35] <dobey> i don't know
[19:36] <dobey> make tells you where things fail
[19:37] <timeax> The one in the phablet folder?
[19:39] <dobey> i don't know which makefile you need to read/change/understand
[19:39] <dobey> you need to understand what you are doing
[19:39] <timeax> Oh that one says include build/core/main.mk im. Going to look that file
[19:40] <zyga> hey, has anyone looked into porting former firefox-os devices over to ubuntu touch/
[19:40] <timeax> Are written in c/c++ right?
[19:40] <dobey> makefiles? no
[19:41] <zyga> I have two hamachi devices that I could donate to the cause
[19:41] <timeax> Ahah lol
[19:41] <timeax> Thats my level of knowledge :D
[19:46] <timeax> But i just found a tutorial which explain what is a makefile...it says that peoples who attempt to build with makefiles should know c and c++
[19:47] <dobey> sorry, i can't teach you how to be a developer and how different build systems work :)
[19:47] <dobey> and apparently neither can whomever wrote that tutorial
[19:47] <timeax> lol yep i know
[19:48] <timeax> You know some tutorials for try to understand the base?
[19:49] <dobey> i don't
[19:50] <timeax> Ok no prob ;) tnx anyway
[19:50] <timeax> See ya guys
[19:50] <farad> official documentation for GNU make: http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html
[19:51] <timeax> Tnx farad ;)
[19:51] <dobey> official docs may only result in madness though :)
[19:52] <farad> let timeax try :)
[19:53] <dobey> well, the gnu make docs aren't going to describe how android uses make
[19:53] <dobey> and it doesn't tell how to use find, grep, and an editor, to stop the android tree from building certain things
[19:54] <dobey> maybe there are some docs within the android tree worth reading though
[19:55] <timeax> I understand
[19:57] <farad> I could paste similar links for "find", "grep" and an editor ^^
[19:57] <timeax> Yep if u could post them i'll save and read
[19:58] <dobey> timeax: i'm sure your system has the "man" package installed. try using "man find" and "man grep"
[19:58] <dobey> but still, you need to know what you are looking for, before find and grep will help you find where it is
[19:59] <dobey> i suggest you find the documentation for your device tree, and read it, first
[20:00] <farad> timeax: you will find all the documentations here: http://www.gnu.org/software/
[20:00] <farad> on the bottom of the page there are links to all of these tools
[20:00] <timeax> Ohh perfect ;)
[20:00] <farad> and their documentation
[20:01] <timeax> I'ready to study :D
[20:01] <farad> "find" is in "findutils"
[20:02] <farad> study as much as you like, you won't run out of material so fast...
[20:02] <timeax> Yep i know that
[20:03] <timeax> I got all the patience ;)
[20:03] <farad> you are a rare kind of person :)
[20:06] <dobey> well, i'm happy you're willing to learn and work on a port yourself. much better than those who come and demand ports :)
[20:11] <timeax> Ahah lol tnx for the support :)
[20:12] <farad> you are welcome
[21:10] <isore> Good day ppl
[21:11] <isore> someone try to install ubuntu phone on samsung GT-S7390L?
[21:46] <dobey> really wish i could boot rc-proposed on my nexus5 :-/
[22:50] <mariogrip> dobey: isn't rc-proposed working on n5? is it the images from ubports?