[15:03] <Dan9er111> hi first time here
[15:03] <Dan9er111> arch linux user
[15:10] <cmaloney> WElcome!
[15:15] <Dan9er111> i must admit though ive just moved to arch and the crashes are a problem
[15:15] <Dan9er111> my comp is def powerful but i think the nvidea drivers are crashing me
[15:16] <cmaloney> arch tends to be more leading (bleeding) edge than most distros
[15:17] <jrwren> this is why ubuntu ;]
[15:19] <Dan9er111> yea i really want to make a linux distro my os for a server im starting what distro would you recommend
[15:28] <cmaloney> Well, we're sort of biased here. :)
[15:28] <cmaloney> But I've found Ubuntu server to be pretty nice overall
[15:29] <cmaloney> the package manager is quite nice
[15:29] <cmaloney> that said the packages tend to lag over time
[15:29] <cmaloney> so after a certain point you only get securty updates
[15:29] <cmaloney> and not the latest-and-greatest
[15:51] <Dan9er111> oh i see is this more of a ubuntu promary channel
[15:51] <Dan9er111> i should have figured
[15:51] <Dan9er111> i just wish their was a linux irc for michigan
[15:51] <rick_h_> this is close :)
[15:54] <cmaloney> Yeah, this is pretty close
[15:54] <cmaloney> WE also have a channel for the Michigan UNIX Uer Group but most folks in that channel are here
[15:55] <cmaloney> (http://mug.org if you're interested)
[15:55] <cmaloney> But I like to think we're more pragmatic than dogmatic about OSes
[15:56] <cmaloney> My boss uses (and loves) Arch Linux.
[15:56] <cmaloney> I prefer Ubuntu because I like more stability
[15:57] <cmaloney> If you want to rock Macintosh we'll still love you
[16:18] <jrwren> yeah, we don't trash talk other linux. our good friend greg-g uses debian in production despite all the good evidence that ubuntu-server would be better ;]
[16:18] <rick_h_> jcastro: glad you like the 5x. I'm liking the motox pure
[16:18] <rick_h_> jcastro: I missed my moto little touches and it's a nice inbetween the 5x size and the N6 size
[16:18] <rick_h_> hah
[16:19]  * rick_h_ ran arch until he got hired by canonical
[16:19] <rick_h_> been there done that :)
[16:19] <cmaloney> Well, because you liked tiled window managers and Ubuntu didn't make that particularly easy to accomplish
[16:19] <rick_h_> I liked arch, it worked well for me :)
[16:19] <cmaloney> Yeah, no worries
[16:19] <rick_h_> I just didn't update it every day and made sure to keep an eye out for 'tricky' things :)
[16:20] <rick_h_> that reminds me I need to get my tiling setp working on here again.
[16:20] <cmaloney> yeah, JOhn doesn't do that, and every now and again it reaches out and collects the good karma
[17:28] <Dan9er111> cmaloney i feel the same way i really like arch linux but the stability issues hinder its ability to be used for wsomething serious imho
[17:29] <cmaloney> Yeah
[17:31] <Dan9er111> ill stick around and try to be usefull
[17:31] <cmaloney> PLease feel free to hang around
[17:31] <rick_h_> hah, not a lot of useful here. Much more social :)
[17:31] <cmaloney> yeah, we're more of the social club. :)
[17:31] <Dan9er111> i can socialize
[17:32] <Dan9er111> whats the deal with airplane food
[17:35] <cmaloney> It's neither for airplanes or food?
[17:41] <Dan9er111> *laugh track
[18:16] <jrwren> anyone know current best file system for directories with thousands of files? I didn't know that this is still a limitation. btrfs seems very slow, but even ext4 is slow. Maybe xfs?
[18:16] <jrwren> Did the lessons of reiserfs ever make it into other filesystems?
[19:12] <jrwren> might have helped swift: https://github.com/otoolep/rqlite  :}
[19:18] <gamerchick02> cool?