[00:19] <ciol> COUCOU
[00:21] <alive876___> hi newbie question...  in ubuntu linux i have a file with this #include <dlib/image_processing.h> when i  compile g++ file.cpp it comes back no such file found,although there is the specified file in dlib, don't have any c++ environmental variables set, thanks!
[00:33] <ouroumov_> alive876___, not even LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[00:34] <dillon_> is there any reason to ever "clean" out linux's system?
[00:34] <ouroumov_> dillon_, what do you mean?
[00:35] <lgc>  Hi. Is there a way to install Ubuntu on a tablet?
 no, do i need it?
[00:36] <dillon_> temp files, system error files, and stuff like that? like you have to do with windows
[00:38] <ouroumov_> alive876___, it usually is used by the compiler to locate shared libraries
[00:39] <ouroumov_> alive876___, static libraries have to be passed on the compile command line iirc
[00:40] <ouroumov_> dillon_, if you're running Ubuntu you might have crash reports in /var/crash that you wanna clean up if they keep poping up on startup. Temp files are generated by many applications but aren't usually a problem
[00:41] <dillon_> ouroumov so basically just leave it alone
[00:41] <ouroumov_> That's what I've always done for the five years I've used Ubuntu
[00:42] <stratum> ouroumov_, goldeneye?
[00:42] <ouroumov_> stratum, yes
[00:42] <stratum> just clicked
[00:43] <ouroumov_> ^^
[00:43] <dillon_> ouroumov , ok thanks so far I like this a whole lot better than windows with one exception which would the variety of software and how hard it is to install but other then that I like it a whole lot better
[00:44] <ouroumov_> dillon_, hopefully that software shortage situation will gradually get better
[00:45] <ouroumov_> Also note that you can actually install a lot of programs when you've been familiarized enough with the environment
[00:45] <Bashing-om> dillon_: General house keeping ' sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo dpkg -C '. All I have ever had to do .
[00:46] <dillon_> ouroumov I would love to see Linux become a heavy hitter, like OS and OSX, within 5 years.  However with the software shortage it's not necessarily that it's more of just installing it more so
[01:03] <lgc>  Hi. Is there a way to install Ubuntu on a tablet?
[01:04] <k1l_> lgc: ubuntu desktop or the ubuntu-touch? and what tablet?
[01:06] <cherry_lin> k1l_: I've created /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades.d/unauth.cfg and filled it with [Distro]\n AllowUnauthenticated=yes
[01:06] <cherry_lin> solved the problem
[01:06] <k1l_> cherry_lin: ah ok. could be the issue because its still in development
[01:07] <cherry_lin> what should I do about it
[01:07] <cherry_lin> how do I report this bug
[01:07] <k1l_> !bug
[01:07] <k1l_> file it against update-manager
[01:08] <lgc>  Hi. Is there a way to install Ubuntu on a tablet?
 lgc: ubuntu desktop or the ubuntu-touch? and what tablet?
[01:09] <lgc> kil_, it's an Nvidia Shield. With a Tegra K1 processor.
[01:10] <cherry_lin> is it possible to shrink ext3 online?
[01:11] <k1l_> cherry_lin: dont shrink mounted partitions
[01:11] <xangua> lgc: the answer is probably no, but there's an Ubuntu (touch) tablet already
[01:11] <cherry_lin> sadly I have no choice
[01:11] <lgc> k1l_: , it's an Nvidia Shield. With a Tegra K1 processor.
[01:12] <lgc> xangua: thanks, but I'd like to keep my tablet.
[01:12] <k1l_> lgc: http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/help/qa-running-ubuntu-natively-shield-tablet-t2988084
[01:12] <k1l_> lgc: see that thread for the ubuntu desktop version.
[01:12] <lgc> k1l_: thanks!
[01:26] <dumle29> So I'm cloning an old 2TB drive to a new 3TB drive with dd, and I'm wondering why dd is saying "59616+1 records in" and there's seemingly no writing going on looking at ioctl
[01:47] <ouroumov_> !p
[01:50] <monsterjamp> Hello
[01:50] <Fudge> anyway to get the persistent-net-generator used for udev 70 persistent network devices to work on later ubuntu versions
[01:51] <Kang0> Have you came across any chat network which are not similar to irc; i mean if i float a query or discussion it will automatically pick up relevant channels and connect to those channels in back ground and i got replies as soon as someone ping back on that topic ; is it possible?  ; can it possible be with irc?
[01:51] <monsterjamp> Is there a way to change how nautilus unmounts mounts when I click on the unmount button
[01:53] <monsterjamp> Kang0 That sounds like it would take up a lot of compute time on a server, but maybe it's been done before
[01:54] <Kang0> As ultimately people dont worry about machine but they think only about their convenient
[01:55] <EriC^> monsterjamp: the disks program maybe
[01:56] <monsterjamp> I meant unmounting samba shares fomr within nautilus
[01:56] <monsterjamp> *from
[01:57] <monsterjamp> The way nautilus is unmounting shares gives me an error, but if I unmount it from the terminal I get no issues
[02:02] <toxiicmisery> This is different..
[02:09] <pcwiz> can someone please help me understad why ubuntu mate 15.10 keeps freezing and crashing COMPLETELY i am using a 32GB flash drive and i have verified the md5 and my pc specs are quad core x2 @ 2.4 GHz 8 GB ram
[02:10] <pcwiz> ive checked in the mate room and they referred me here
[02:14] <pcwiz> can someone please help me understad why ubuntu mate 15.10 keeps freezing and crashing COMPLETELY i am using a 32GB flash drive and i have verified the md5 and my pc specs are quad core x2 @ 2.4 GHz 8 GB ram
[02:14] <EriC^> pcwiz: did you check dmesg?
[02:15] <pcwiz> whats dmesg?
[02:17] <pbx> i'm trying to get into rescue mode for my 14.04 install.  hitting esc on boot loads grub... but it's a grub prompt, whereas everything i read on the web refers to a grub menu. what?
[02:17] <pbx> is there a way to get from the prompt to the menu?
[02:18] <pbx> grub 2 FWIW
[02:19] <pbx> i just need to get in there as root to fix something i stupidly broke today (ownership of /usr/bin/sudo ironically)
[02:19] <pcwiz> can someone please help me understad why ubuntu mate 15.10 keeps freezing and crashing COMPLETELY i am using a 32GB flash drive and i have verified the md5 and my pc specs are quad core x2 @ 2.4 GHz 8 GB ram
[02:19] <SchrodingersScat> pbx: is it holding shift to just show the menu?
[02:20] <yeats> pbx: I would try a live CD/USB if you're unable to boot into recovery mode
[02:20] <pbx> SchrodingersScat - shift doesn't do it. apparently it's esc on some newer machines. like mine.  but like i said i don't get the menu, i get a grub prompt
[02:20] <pbx> SchrodingersScat - i don't have a live cd and don't believe i can create one without sudo
[02:21] <pbx> maybe what i need to learn is how to mount the drive at that prompt, then go from there
[02:22] <SchrodingersScat> thought you were trying to go through single user mode, or whatever it's called.
[02:23] <pbx> SchrodingersScat - i am
[02:24] <pbx> SchrodingersScat - i'm gonna reboot and hack at the grub prompt a bit. thanks.  probably will be back soon.
[02:35] <derfoh> pcwiz I had to abandon my full install of ubuntu that was running on a 3.0 flash drive because of the same problems. :L
[02:36] <Kang0> Are there any software which uses udp for file transfer?
[02:36] <derfoh> proxy
[02:37] <derfoh> unless I'm mistaken proxy services use UDP
[02:37] <derfoh> also i believe VOIP does too
[02:45] <derfoh> I guess it's important to be specific about what kind of data you're transferring. Things like documents, music, pictures, etc. are usually transferred via TCP to ensure that every packet is received. Other data though such as video streaming, and voip where some lossy is expected and accepted UDP is used. The major difference between the protocols are how bad packets are handled. TCP will request the packet is resent, UDP will just drop it.
[02:54] <pcwiz> can someone please help me understad why ubuntu mate 15.10 keeps freezing and crashing COMPLETELY i am using a 32GB flash drive and i have verified the md5 and my pc specs are quad core x2 @ 2.4 GHz 8 GB ram
[03:01] <Cbax> Face Book Hacker
[03:01] <Cbax> http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=30270571564122036002
[03:02] <pcwiz> can someone please help me understad why ubuntu mate 15.10 keeps freezing and crashing COMPLETELY i am using a 32GB flash drive and i have verified the md5 and my pc specs are quad core x2 @ 2.4 GHz 8 GB ram
[03:06] <pcwiz> can someone please help me understad why ubuntu mate 15.10 keeps freezing and crashing COMPLETELY i am using a 32GB flash drive and i have verified the md5 and my pc specs are quad core x2 @ 2.4 GHz 8 GB ram
[03:08] <pcwiz> can someone please help me understad why ubuntu mate 15.10 keeps freezing and crashing COMPLETELY i am using a 32GB flash drive and i have verified the md5 and my pc specs are quad core x2 @ 2.4 GHz 8 GB ram
[03:10] <gustavo_> hI
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[03:11] <gustavo_> giiiiiiiiii
[03:11] <gustavo_> hola
[03:11] <gustavo_> hi
[03:11] <gustavo_> hola
[03:11] <gustavo_> hiii
[03:13] <pcwiz> can someone please help me understad why ubuntu mate 15.10 keeps freezing and crashing COMPLETELY i am using a 32GB flash drive and i have verified the md5 and my pc specs are quad core x2 @ 2.4 GHz 8 GB ram
[03:14] <pcwiz> can someone please help me understad why ubuntu mate 15.10 keeps freezing and crashing COMPLETELY i am using a 32GB flash drive and i have verified the md5 and my pc specs are quad core x2 @ 2.4 GHz 8 GB ram
[03:23] <ideas> hi
[03:23] <ideas> anopersonactive?
[03:23] <|Aquilon> plop
[04:00] <Guest41223> so i'm having trouble disabling ipv6, not super good with terminal so bare with me
[04:01] <Guest41223> can anyone help?
[04:01] <Ben64> why would you want to disable ipv6
[04:02] <Guest41223> well the vpn service i've signed up with apparently doesn't work with it enabled for whatever reason, i figured id give it a shot to disable and if i don't like it, then i can get a full refund in the first 30 days
[04:03] <Ben64> i don't see why you'd have to globally disable ipv6 because of that
[04:03] <Guest41223> that's just what the support guy said
[04:03] <Guest41223> i figured i'd take his word for it
[04:03] <Ben64> seems like a cop out answer
[04:03] <Guest41223> unless you have another suggestion lol i more than willing to take tips
[04:04] <Guest41223> lol it definetly could be
[04:06] <Guest41223> does anyone have a suggestion for a good vpn service?
[04:07] <squinty_> might want to check https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-anonymous-review-160220/
[04:09] <Guest41223> that's actually where i found my last 2, first one ended up not having enough servers and now i'm dealing with crappy cx support with this one
[04:10] <NwS> Guys one quick Q. Is it normal to stop a service but even then the service is using some files?
[04:10] <NwS> is = keep
[04:12] <Guest96078> hello all
[04:13] <Guest96078> sound problem: only HDMI output are listed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15212438/
[04:21] <crowtow67> hi s there a tool for linux where I can copy an unicode character from a website and it'll tell me its code or a way or any other way to know what code does a character have?
[04:26] <Bashing-om> crowtow67: http://unicode-table.com/en/#0168 .
[04:26] <trism> crowtow67: I usually open up python in the terminal and type, say, u"漫", and it will give you u'\u6f2b', there's probably better ways
[04:27] <crowtow67> Bashing-om: thanks a lot! that's exactly what i was looking for
[04:28] <crowtow67> trism: i thought about that but i'm too lazy heh
[04:28] <Bashing-om> crowtow67: Hope it works for ya .
[04:29] <crowtow67> since it's friday night and we're chatting on IRC, thanks to Bashing-om's website today i've learnt about this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halfwidth_and_fullwidth_forms
[04:30] <crowtow67> sometimes i listen to a bit of hipser music that happens to be japanese and it's been rustling my jimmies that if a song contained a number it would seemed bigger and wider for japanese artists in my foobar2000
[04:30] <crowtow67> example U+FF18
[04:31] <Bashing-om> crowtow67: Now, I gotta look !
[04:31] <crowtow67> Bashing-om: thank you now i finally know what's going on, i thougt it was my monitor or a bug in the font file idk, it was so annyoing that sometimes a number would look fatter hehehe
[04:32] <crowtow67> fat number eight: U+FF18, normal looking latin number eight: U+0038
[04:32] <crowtow67> just to give an example
[04:37] <bigsahar> hello  any one here?
[04:37] <Darmani> Hi there! Quick question, how do I zoom out of an application?
[04:37] <bigsahar> what kind of aplication?
[04:37] <adrian_1908> Darmani: what application, could you give any example?
[04:37] <Darmani> yeah it's just a text editor for coding. Sublime.
[04:37] <adrian_1908> Darmani: CTRL + Mousewheel is a common pattern
[04:38] <Darmani> ah there it goes!
[04:38] <adrian_1908> CTRL + "+" and CTRL + "-" too
[04:38] <bigsahar> what do you want to zoom? the text or the view?
[04:38] <Darmani> adrian_1908: I'm new to this OS. But I am forever in your debt.
[04:38] <adrian_1908> and CTRL + "0" is often used to reset zoom level
[04:38] <Darmani> No it had zoomed in and I wasn't sure why.
[04:39] <bigsahar> dou you using ubuntu?
[04:39] <Darmani> wat
[04:41] <PcChip> Hello, what is the difference between Xubuntu Beta 1, and Xubuntu daily builds ?
[04:43] <adrian_1908> PcChip: Daily builds are always new, hence daily. The Betas are frozen states, milestones along the way if you will.
[04:44] <PcChip> so as of today, Xubuntu Beta1 is almost exactly the same as Xubuntu Daily ?
[04:44] <parsecChar> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/563acff5c9b332d43c49 <-- WTF -- what is wrong? (trying to install Haskell/Stack)
[04:44] <PcChip> also if I do apt-get dist-upgrade will that make my old "daily" install the same as downloading the latest "daily" ISO ?
[04:46] <adrian_1908> PcChip: yeah, looks like the Beta was released 2 days ago. Not sure about your section question, but I imagine it's the same content.
[04:46] <PcChip> thank you Adrian
[04:47] <Bashing-om> croop: And looky what else I ran across : https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/UTF-8 .
[04:48] <adrian_1908> PcChip: I reckon both will get you the same end result if you keep pulling updates, at least that's how I understand it. Fixed betas can also be shared via bittorrent for longer times, whereas a new ISO every day would split seeds.
[04:58] <rahul_hari_kumar> Is Ubuntu-Mate associated with Ubuntu ?:
[05:16] <Rohan_Kumar> Hi, i'm not able to play .mkv vids on lubuntu
[05:17] <redtubak> hi
[05:17] <LibertyWeNeed> How do I setup my own mail server?
[05:17] <LibertyWeNeed> 4:02
[05:17] <Rohan_Kumar> http://pastebin.com/HpZyZbfg
[05:19] <xissburg> how do you copy to the clipboard in the terminal?
[05:19] <xissburg> I'm on a VPS without GUI
[05:19] <Cipher_Short> Rohan_Kumar, I don't think ubuntu has support for H.265 yet. Im sure theres a PPA somewhere that offers support for it
[05:19] <xissburg> why does this have to be so hard? lol
[05:26] <adrian_1908> maybe the idea of a clipboard was not a concept in non-gui interfaces? I don't know :)
[05:26] <adrian_1908> (historically)
[05:27] <xissburg> then how are you supposed to copy/paste things?
[05:27] <xissburg> I am also impressed by how all OSes I've seen only have *one* clipboard
[05:28] <Ghaleon> hello everyone.  sorry for the noob question, but I am looking for help regarding a specific problem with ubunto studio.  can someone point me in the right direction?
[05:28] <xissburg> They never evolve beyond that
[05:31] <adrian_1908> Ghaleon: the chat is very inactive right now, so just share the problem and maybe someone is able to help. you're not interrupting more important matters :P
[05:33] <Ghaleon> thanks, adrian_1908.  I'm trying to get my rocksmith usb cable to register with guitarix
[05:35] <Ghaleon> I've followed the following tutorial up to a point but got stuck after configuring the input in qjackctl
[05:35] <Ghaleon> ~remadmin@212-88-243-222.access.telenet.be
[05:37] <adrian_1908> that's out of my area of knowledge, I hope you find an answer. Also ask in #ubuntustudio if you haven't already. good luck!
[05:41] <LibertyWeNeed> How do I setup my own mail server?
[05:49] <consolejazz> depends.. are you looking for the server to simply send system messages on your behalf or do you want to use it regularly to send/receive msgs from other internet users?
[05:53] <voldyman> hey guys i am getting a weird issue on 14.04, my touchpad is not working, kindof, it was working before, now i can see data coming into /dev/input/mouse0 when use it but the cursor doesn't actually move
[05:54] <consolejazz> check out smtp relay like the free mailgun.com, then install/config mail transfer agent (MTA) postfix to use it.
[05:54] <consolejazz> this should get you going: http://techarena51.com/index.php/configure-secure-postfix-email-server/
[05:56] <hiexpo> ola
[05:56] <hiexpo> hi all
[05:56] <consolejazz> voldyman: what have you tried so far to fix it; what exactly isn't working with it
[05:58] <consolejazz> see if your problems fits one of these scenarioes, and walk through the steps outlined if sohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/simar/Touchpad#In_case_your_touchpad_features_like_scrolling.2C_tapping.2C_etc_does_not_work_at_all.
[05:58] <consolejazz> * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/simar/Touchpad#In_case_your_touchpad_features_like_scrolling.2C_tapping.2C_etc_does_not_work_at_all.
[06:03] <voldyman> consolejazz: https://gist.github.com/voldyman/bbeaaf226061a6fd6e42
[06:04] <haasn> When installing ubuntu, can I choose to install to an existing filesystem instead of partitioning a new one? I want to install it to a subvolume of an existing btrfs array that I have
[06:06] <consolejazz> voldyman: that personally doesn't help me much. not going to read through nearly 1000 lines of output
[06:06] <consolejazz> review the link i posted and see if any of what's described there matches your issue (which you've as yet to outline)
[06:09] <voldyman> consolejazz: so i grepped for the relavent info  https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/6zxiTDMd/
[06:10] <voldyman> and the wiki didn't help
[06:13] <consolejazz> voldyman: so your touchpad is being recognized, you just can't click or do anything with it? there's not some kind of hardware or software lock involved possibly?
[06:14] <consolejazz> what have you tried so far to troubleshoot?
[06:15] <voldyman> i ran xev to see if events were being recogonized, they were not, installed touchegg which detects some gestures but the i can't move the pointer
[06:15] <voldyman> when i run touchegg i can do two finger scroll
[06:16] <voldyman> while touchegg is running i can even do taps, two finger tap  opens the context menu but when i kill touchegg it stops working again
[06:18] <voldyman> it feels like some program is taking control
[06:20] <consolejazz> what laptop hardware?
[06:20] <voldyman> it's a dell laptop
[06:24] <consolejazz> how recently have you updated or rebooted the system? considered powering off and removing battery for few minutes too...
[06:25] <Fuogo> Hello
[06:25] <OneruH> Hi! I have that network config: http://pastebin.com/0VytPg70. Why I don't see at 'ifconfig' third ipv6 (...d005) address?
[06:25] <Fuogo> I am new here - first time
[06:25] <voldyman> i usually leave the system on suspend, the issue started when i rebooted, then it tried a few things and then rebooted, it didn't help
[06:25] <Fuogo> need some help. Should I just ask the question here?
[06:26] <consolejazz> recommend trying a complete poweroff, removing battery for few minutes.
[06:26] <consolejazz> if after booting still no luck try xswipe maybe? https://github.com/intersimone999/xSwipe
[06:27] <consolejazz> arch wiki actually has bunch of info that could be of use too https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Troubleshooting
[06:27] <consolejazz> Fuogo: yes
[06:28] <Fuogo> I had ubuntu 14 LTS installed and I did an upgrade to 15
[06:28] <Fuogo> Now my laptop boots up to a command prompt login and is stuck
[06:29] <Fuogo> I cannot type my username. the system does not respond
[06:29] <Fuogo> I used a previous version installation CD and selected "try ubuntu"
[06:31] <Fuogo> so now I can connect to internet, but I see that my files are in a different disk/partition and not all files are accessible
[06:31] <Fuogo> my intention was to copy all files and then do a complete format and reinstall, but without being able to copy the files, I cannot do that
[06:32] <Fuogo> is there any way I can roll back to 14 LTS without losing my files?
[06:33] <consolejazz> so the inaccessible files are in another home (`~`) directory on a different partition?
[06:34] <consolejazz> Fuogo: i don't know about rolling back from where you're at now. things are obviously getting messy quick here
[06:35] <Fuogo> :( yes i see a partition like 469 GB file system and within that there are folders - bin, home etc.
[06:35] <cspack> Fuogo: if you're using a live session it's possible the partitions you need are not  mounted
[06:36] <kam> whats going on
[06:36] <Fuogo> partition gets mounted and i am able to see and copy some files, but others are locked (has a small lock icon at the bottom)
[06:37] <consolejazz> and you're accessing everything as ubuntu 15 instance? you're not booted to a live cd or anything or are you?
[06:37] <Fuogo> I have booted from a live cd
[06:38] <Fuogo> cannot login to the laptop directly. it gets stuck at login prompt (console). The GUI does not even come up
[06:38] <consolejazz> actually, i think you can reinstall ubuntu 14 (downgrading from 15) and that should return your file permissions to the way they were
[06:39] <Fuogo> ok, but would that overwrite my existing files?
[06:39] <Fuogo> or delete
[06:39] <consolejazz> it shouldn't overwrite your ~ home directory
[06:39] <Fuogo> okay
[06:39] <consolejazz> but
[06:40] <LambdaComplex> backups
[06:40] <consolejazz> i'd try opening a terminal from the live cd and accessing those home files on the mounted partition. copying over to another backup medium
[06:40] <consolejazz> LambdaComplex: beat me to the punch :)
[06:41] <Fuogo> i tried that, but like i said some files are not accessible.
[06:41] <Fuogo> they simply dont get copied, and i can see a small lock icon on those files
[06:41] <consolejazz> even after accessing as root? `su -` ?
[06:42] <Fuogo> sorry, how do I do that?
[06:42] <LambdaComplex> why would you not have access to files in your home folder?
[06:42] <Gallomimia> sounds like you have to fix some permissions
[06:42] <LambdaComplex> ^
[06:42] <cspack> he's running from a live CD
[06:42] <Gallomimia> oh. uid mismatch
[06:42] <Fuogo> cspack: yes, thank you
[06:43] <Gallomimia> liveCD/etc/passwd != installed/ect/passwd
[06:44] <cspack> can you launch your file manager as root?
[06:44] <consolejazz> Fuogo: try Alt+F2,`gksudo nautilus`
[06:44] <consolejazz> to get at the files
[06:44] <pi1> hi all
[06:45] <Rache> ih
[06:45] <consolejazz> type that in the commandline
[06:45] <Fuogo> console: trying that
[06:46] <Fuogo> it works!!!
[06:46] <Gallomimia> hey uh... be careful what you do with that window
[06:46] <Gallomimia> you've got ultimate permissions. you can muck things up easily
[06:47] <Fuogo> I will copy the files and then do a fresh install of 14 LTS
[06:47] <Gallomimia> ah
[06:47] <consolejazz> Fuogo: yes, do be careful. now copy over your `~/` (home) folder somewhere for safekeeping. verify its all there and accessible
[06:47] <consolejazz> then proceed to reinstall
[06:47] <Gallomimia> then there's not much dangerous you can do if you're about to nuke everything anyway
[06:48] <consolejazz> rsync would be good for this
[06:49] <Gallomimia> maybe we should get us a good and easy to use "hey save all my files before i reinstall" utility installed by default?
[06:50] <consolejazz> Fuogo: for reference, if you want to stick with commandline (which is easiest to guide you through as well), https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync#Perform_a_Simple_Backup
[06:50] <consolejazz> you can try Grsync, a GUI frontend for rsync copy utility, as well (as mentioned in linked guide)
[06:54] <Fuogo> thank you consolejazz and others.
[06:55] <Fuogo> will come back if I have more questions
[06:55] <adv> hi
[06:57] <consolejazz> you're welcome Fuogo
[06:57] <consolejazz> ah, he's gone
[07:20] <CacheMoney> any have experience with openvpn CLI?
[07:20] <CacheMoney> anyone*
[07:27] <haasn> CacheMoney: some, but usually you'd just specify openvpn options in an options file
[07:29] <CacheMoney> haasn: well my problem is, the tap adapter isn't creatin
[07:29] <CacheMoney> g
[07:32] <haasn> How are you running openvpn? Any output?
[07:45] <TTTA> So a few days ago, my UBUNTU version stopped working. Today I just deleted the whole partition...But now I can't even load into Windows
[07:47] <TTTA> I try to boot from my Windows drive, but u get a "No such device <long hex>, entering review mouse...grub rescue"
[07:48] <TTTA> *entering rescue mode
[07:48] <TTTA> Can anyone help me regain access to my computer?
[07:50] <cspack> you probably need to boot from windows install media and do a repair installation
[07:53] <Fudge> TTTA:  there are boot rescue cd's that will assist you to restore your windows boot loader, there are some key words for you to Google, hope that helps
[07:53] <Fudge> if hopefully you have another computer or an ubuntu cd
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:54] <TTTA> I had an UBUNTU USB I was trying to reinstall from
[07:54] <TTTA> Oddly enough, I just fixed it by installing from a USB 2.0 port instead of a 3.0 port
[07:55] <Tex_Nick> TTTA: sounds like you had a dual boot lin/win install on the same drive, if so & grub was your bootloader & you only deleted the linux partition, then you might be able to use the windows install disk to reinstall the MBR ... you need to be more specific though :)
[07:56] <cwiggs> I'm trying to do a update-manager -d to go from xubuntu 14.04 to xubuntu 16.04 beta but I'm getting an errror "module-init-tools" says it was not able to authenticate.
[07:56] <TTTA> They were on different drives, I believe
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> cwiggs: not a good idea
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> cwiggs: xenial is not final yet, clean install a daily iso of 16.04
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> cwiggs: see #ubuntu+1 for details
[07:58] <TTTA> Tex_Nick: I don't have an optical drive on this computer
[08:00] <_teo1> does anyone has experience with open source ati radeon driver? need to set low power profile to a graphics card (RADEON hd 4870)
[08:01] <TTTA> Honestly, now I just need a quick walkthrough of the installation process
[08:02] <TTTA> I chose the 'preview without installing' option
[08:02] <TAFB> can anyone help me get vnc working on my ubuntu vps?
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> TAFB: vnc is a security flaw, be carefull with it
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | TAFB
[08:02] <TTTA> But I'm getting the infamous old Windows frame dragging whenever I move anything r
[08:03] <TAFB> is there a way to do it NOT security?
[08:05] <cspack> TTTA: what is it you want to do? you said you wanted to boot into windows after deleting your linux partition, right?
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> TAFB: you can try to get your work done remotly by ssh perhaps?
[08:07] <TAFB> lotuspsychje: I want to run Tixati on my VPS, as far as I know it's a desktop application
[08:07] <TTTA> I came in wanting to replace my old Linux with a fresh install
[08:07] <TTTA> I'm most of the way through that, now I'm at the part where it wants me to chose an installation partition
[08:07] <cspack> TTTA: ok that's different.
[08:08] <TTTA> Yeah, it's been a strange night, sorry about the confusion
[08:09] <TTTA> So I have a 70GB partition on one HDD that's completely unformatted
[08:09] <TTTA> Last time I tried doing this, I ended up accidentally reformatting the entire HDD
[08:10] <TTTA> someone on this IRC told me to run through the process again, but go through the 'try UBUNTU without installing it
[08:10] <cspack> TTTA: run the install tell it you want to customize your disk layout instead of use the full disk.
[08:12] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | TTTA
[08:13] <TTTA_> alright, logging in from my computer, was on my cell phone before
[08:14] <TTTA_> the print screen button...didn't work quite right
[08:14] <TTTA_> http://imgur.com/sM3zFhl
[08:17] <mrm1st3r> Hi, I'm looking for a tool to monitor various sensors on my computer
[08:17] <mrm1st3r> lm-sensors is only giving me CPU temps
[08:17] <cspack> TTTA: did you start the installer?
[08:17] <TTTA_> yes
[08:18] <cspack> mrm1st3r: did you run 'sudo sensors-detect'?
[08:18] <TTTA_> I'm at the point where I can choose installation type.
[08:18] <mrm1st3r> yes, but that didn't detect really anything
[08:19] <TTTA_> I chose a drive, hit the "Change..." button, the "Edit partition" window popped up
[08:19] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: What is the exact text of the options you're given?
[08:20] <TTTA_> "Erase disk and install UBUNTU" (clearly not the right option); "Something Else"
[08:20] <TTTA_> I selected "Something Else"
[08:20] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Wait.
[08:21] <TTTA_> k
[08:21] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Please open a terminal, run "sudo parted -l", and pastebin the output.
[08:23] <TTTA_> http://termbin.com/yns9
[08:24] <TTTA_> thank you for your help, btw
[08:28] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | TTTA_
[08:32] <TTTA_> http://termbin.com/rf0e
[08:32] <TTTA_> dammit, ignore that
[08:33] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Part of your problem (though not all of it) is that you left a partition unformatted. If you just delete the partition instead, then Ubuntu's installer will be able to make use of the free space appropriately for you automatically.
[08:34] <_teo> has anyone had any experience with power profiling on ATI RADEON gpu? I need to set low profile on an older card. I try to use ''echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile" with sudo, but it always gives permission denied
[08:35] <DeafMints|2> ok yumi isn't selecting me select the iso for ubuntu
[08:35] <DeafMints|2> nvm
[08:35] <TAFB> can anyone help me get vnc working on my ubuntu vps without using a SSH tunnel?
[08:35] <TTTA_> I am so lost
[08:36] <TTTA_> I don't even know how to delete that partition from my current situation
[08:36] <_teo> is this the right channel to ask about gpu?
[08:36] <Jordan_U> _teo: When you use ">" you're telling the *shell* to take the output of the previous command, and write it to a file. That means that the *shell* needs permission to write to the file, not the command. If you want to write to a file as root you can use "echo foo | sudo tee /path/to/file". That runs the "echo foo" as your user and writes to the file, using the tee command, as root.
[08:37] <DeafMints|2> Do i just install ubuntu 15.04 on my pc via a usb boot drive and it will automatically do the dual boot for me?
[08:38] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: You can close Ubuntu's installer, use GParted to delete the partition (*carefully* if you accidentally delte the wrong partition, that's on you. I also hope that, as always, you have backups of any important data).
[08:38]  * DeafMints|2 is confused
[08:38] <_teo> i tried that also but i get "low tee: /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile: Invalid argument"
[08:39] <_teo> the power_profile always has default inside
[08:40] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: You can also delete the partition within Ubuntu's "something else" option, but that might lead you to want to do other manual partitioning afterward, and I personally recommend that you just let the installer create the appropriate partitions for you (by starting the Installer from the beginning again after deleting the empty partition).
[08:41] <asda> hola
[08:41] <asda> i got issues with installing ubuntu on my new skylake machine
[08:41] <mahdi> hi all
[08:42] <mahdi> i have two computer with ubuntu 140.4 one server and another desktop
[08:42] <DeafMints|2> If i can get an answer before i reboot my pc
[08:43] <ouroumov_> DeafMints|2, you should use 15.10 instead of .04
[08:43] <mahdi> from server i can connect to desktop of the desktop computer but from desktop i  can not connect to the server computer
[08:43] <DeafMints|2> Yes i have that version downloaded ouroumov_
[08:43] <TTTA_> I fiddles around and googled a bunch
[08:43] <DeafMints|2> Do i just get it onto a usb then load the usb ubuntu and install it as normal ouroumov_?
[08:44] <TTTA_> and I think I got it worked out
[08:44] <TTTA_> but thank you for spending time with me, Jordan_U
[08:44] <ouroumov_> I'm not a dual boot expert DeafMints|2
[08:44] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: You're welcome.
[08:45] <TAFB> can anyone help me with vnc? I can't go to bed tonight until I get it working :(
[08:45] <TAFB> almost 4am here
[08:45] <ouroumov_> But usually you gotta first clear some space on one of your used partitions, then install into that space, then fix eventual dual boot issues DeafMints|2
[08:45] <DeafMints|2> I've already got the space
[08:47] <TTTA_> yeah, it's installing now, and I'm 95% sure I didn't just repartition an entire TB
[08:47] <TTTA_> like I did last time
[08:52] <TTTA> Fuck me sideways, I'm still getting the grub error on startup
[08:53] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Please watch your language.
[08:53] <TTTA> I'm sorry
[08:53] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: What grub error are you getting exactly?
[08:53] <TTTA> I just want to shoot a computer
[08:53] <TTTA> Wait
[08:54] <TTTA> Now I'm getting BOOTMGT is missing, press ctrl+alt+del to restart
[08:54] <TTTA> *BOOTMGR
[08:54] <thekiddo> sup
[08:55] <Jordan_U> TTTA: So one boot you got a grub error and another boot you got a bootmgr (Windows bootloader) error?
[08:55] <thekiddo> dude jordan ttta timed out
[08:55] <deafmints> ok. I'm on ubuntu
[08:55] <TTTA> Yeah, depending on which hard drive I'm boring from
[08:55] <Jordan_U> thekiddo: No, TTTA_ timed out.
[08:56] <ouroumov_> deafmints, did you see the windows option on startup?
[08:56] <Jordan_U> TTTA: OK. Lets stick to booting from the drive that grub was installed to.
[08:56] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | TTTA
[08:56] <deafmints> ouroumov_: im on ubuntu now. Im working on the installation also my mouse is moving too fast!
[08:56] <TTTA> TTTA is still me, TTTA_ was me through my computer, on cell phone now
[08:57] <deafmints> Ok. I need to determine my partition now.
[08:57] <deafmints> how do i tweak the mouse movement speed on herE?
[08:58] <ouroumov_> deafmints, I don't think you can during the install procedure
[08:58] <deafmints> There, tweaked it
[08:58] <deafmints> Im on the try ubuntu thing
[08:58] <ouroumov_> Oh
[08:58] <TTTA> Ok, so if I try to boot from the drive Windows was installed on, I get "error: no such device: a7878760-f7f1-46d2-bc09-930335d65c1b. Entering rescue mode...    grub rescue>_"
[08:59] <deafmints> So what partitions do i need to do a sucessful ubuntu
[08:59] <deafmints> I know i need a swap
[09:00] <Jordan_U> TTTA: OK, that means that grub's boot sector was installed to your Windows drive's MBR (which is probably not what you wanted) and for some reason can't access the drive that contains Ubuntu. What devices are listed if you run "ls" at the grub rescue shell?
[09:02] <Jordan_U> deafmints: I recommend letting Ubuntu's installer create the needed partitions for you, but for any installation you'll need a root filesystem. You will probably also want a swap paritition, especially if you ever plan to hibernate. If your machine uses UEFI then you will need a UEFI System Partition, if your machine boots via BIOS but on a GPT partitioned drive then you will need a BIOS Boot Partition.
[09:03] <deafmints> Jordan_U: I have a SDD which is my main windows and a HDD which has everything else on, and im planning to put ubuntu on the HDD
[09:03] <deafmints> I have 175gb free space for ubuntu
[09:04] <deafmints> So i cant really do the automatic Jordan_U
[09:05] <TTTA> (hd0) (hd1) (hd1,gpt3) (hd1,gpt2 (hd1,gpt1) (hd2) (hd2,gpt2) (hd2,gpt1) (hd3) (hd4)
[09:07] <deafmints> ... I'm googling information but they aren't giving me any extact information on what i need or how bigg
[09:09] <k1l_> deafmints: how much ram you got and do you want to use hibernation?
[09:09] <Jordan_U> TTTA: OK, which disk (from the output you provided here: http://termbin.com/yns9 ) did you install Ubuntu to?
[09:10] <deafmints> No hiberination and i have 16gb of ram k1l_
[09:10] <deafmints> I have 120032mb of free space to work with
[09:11] <k1l_> deafmints: so you dont need a swapif you will not use all that ram (like running 10 of vm or such)
[09:12] <TTTA> Jordan, the first time or second time I installed UBUNTU?
[09:12] <k1l_> deafmints: 15GB for /, th rest for /home partition. both ext4
[09:12] <TTTA> The first time, it was to the 1TB ATA
[09:12] <deafmints> ok thanks k1
[09:12] <Jordan_U> TTTA: The second.
[09:12] <TTTA> second time (a few minutes ago), it was to the 850 EVO
[09:15] <deafmints> Ok, appearently i didn't partition correctly in windows
[09:15] <deafmints> Brb going back to windows
[09:18] <Jordan_U> TTTA: I need to leave. If you run boot info script from a LiveCD/USB as I asked earlier I can probably walk you through fixing all this relatively quickly some time tomorrow, if someone else can't help you tonight. You can also probably boot Windows or Ubuntu with Super GRUB2 Disk: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/ or get just Windows working again with a FixMBR on that disk. For getting Ubun
[09:18] <Jordan_U> tu's grub installed to the correct place you can follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot and instead of running grub-install run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc --frontend=text" to select which drive grub's boot sector should be installed to (Do *not* select any partition, like sda1).
[09:18] <deniz946> Hello, I've a Trust USB Webcam and my computer doesn't detect it, can someone give me a help please?
[09:19] <deniz946> Well, I'can see the webcam typing 'lsusb'
[09:19] <deafmints_> Welp.
[09:20] <deafmints_> For some reason i cant boot back into windows
[09:20] <deafmints_> k1l_: You still here?
[09:20] <ouroumov_> deafmints_, you gotta pick your SSD in the computer's boot menu
[09:21] <deafmints_> I did.
[09:21] <ouroumov_> Or unplug the USB stick
[09:21] <deafmints_> Says error no such device
[09:21] <asda> hey i need install ubuntu but it wont allow it
[09:21] <ouroumov_> deafmints_, but I though you hadn't installed anything yet?
[09:21] <deafmints_> ouroumov_: i didnt install anything yet.
[09:21] <deafmints_> i can still access my computer's device
[09:21] <deafmints_> I can see all the data there
[09:22] <deafmints_> Should i just try unplugging the usb then
[09:22] <deafmints_> i did the f12 boot menu
[09:22] <deafmints_> ill be back to see what happens when i unplug the usb
[09:22] <ouroumov_> Sure, try. I assume you've got a backup of your stuff?
[09:23] <deafmints_> ouroumov_: all my important stuff are not in my ssd
[09:23] <ouroumov_> good
[09:23] <deafmints_> Like my main downloads and games and etec
[09:23] <deafmints_> brb
[09:25] <DeafMints> Ok now its partitioning
[09:32] <asda> i need assisntace with my ubuntu install, cant get it installd in my skylake
[09:35] <BikerMike> Hello again to #ubuntu :)
[09:36] <ouroumov_> asda, hi. Are you trying to dual boot with windows?
[09:39] <BikerMike> With yesterday's advice about using the 64bit installer, I tried uninstalling the 32bit and it gave me a bit of a scare as I can no longer boot thru Windows :(
[09:40] <ouroumov_> BikerMike, you've reinstalled the 64Bits version already?
[09:45] <asda> i wanna be seems like my hardware does not support ubuntu
[09:45] <asda> lets me boot the usb stick but says kernel channel cant be created
[09:47] <asda> so whats up with that?
[09:48] <BikerMike> ouroumov not yet, still downloading the iso
[09:49] <BikerMike> what i did was uninstalled the existing 32bit via windows add/remove programs
[09:49] <BikerMike> and then when i restarted, it gave me an error "GRUB Recovery" something
[09:50] <BikerMike> oh by the way before that error i was still able to boot, but was curious why Ubuntu didn't get uninstalled
[09:50] <BikerMike> so I deleted the ext4 partitions, and I guess that's why the error came up
[09:51] <BikerMike> now I had to reinstall the 32bit just to get my windows running and now i'm back in this room :/
[09:51] <Giora> How do I change the default scaling governor?
[09:58] <von_> hello?
[09:58] <von_> Need help
[09:59] <hil> von_, just ask your Q and wait for response
[09:59] <von_> ok
[10:01] <von_> Using ubuntu, In Win10 battery last 5hrs but in ubuntu it lasts 3hrs    what to do to optimize it
[10:02] <rory> von_: You can install the "powertop" application from the repositories, and run it in a terminal to see which processes consume the most power
[10:03] <rory> von_: See also this link, which has some useful answers https://askubuntu.com/questions/400/tips-to-extend-battery-life-for-laptops-and-notebooks
[10:03] <von_> ok i will thnx
[10:12] <Abe_> how can I remove lvm encryption so I don't have to type in the password to boot up? i still know my pw so don't worry
[10:15] <Abe_> http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=26718982
[10:16] <BikerMike> so here's what my partitions look like now http://i.imgur.com/iQ7PzYx.png
[10:17] <Abe_> I need to remove the enryption pw I know i did that in the past too
[10:17] <Abe_> but i forgot how to do it
[10:20] <Abe_> is that the correct way of doing it?
[10:20] <Abe_> http://www.howtogeek.com/116179/how-to-disable-home-folder-encryption-after-installing-ubuntu/
[10:22] <ouroumov> Abe_, I doubt it. This encryption method does not ask for a password at boot time.
[10:23] <ouroumov> I think you've set up Full Disk Encryption by checking "encrypt this installation" when you installed Abe_
[10:23] <Abe_> yes that's what i am thinking too
[10:23] <mohammad> hello every body
[10:24] <Abe_> it's probably hard to get rid of it after you have it
[10:24] <ouroumov> I don't think there's an easy way to revert that decision though. You should backup to external drive then do a reinstall of your system Abe_.
[10:24] <ouroumov> Yes
[10:24] <Abe_> yes i know but it takes hours for me to back everything up :/
[10:25] <ouroumov> :x
[10:26] <Abe_> I want to make a little windows partition like 80 gigs is it possible to do it on an encrypted hdd?
[10:26] <Abe_> cuz I can't split the partition somehow
[10:26] <epsypolym> Sup.
[10:27] <ouroumov> I have no idea Abe_, maybe someone else will
[10:28] <Abe_> hmmI can't think of anything but erasing everything :/ I could back everything up but then I also have to reinstall ubuntu
[10:33] <will> anybody here??
[10:33] <will> i need help asap ?
[10:33] <ouroumov> !ask | will
[10:34] <hil> Abe_, not sure if that helps, but take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[10:34] <will> accidentally i removed python from ubuntu 14.04 and have tried all the solution on stackoverflow etc
[10:34] <Abe_> ok i look at it thx
[10:34] <will> now nothing is working
[10:35] <will> getting errors like python-minimal not configured and etc anybody ?
[10:38] <will> accidentally i removed python from ubuntu 14.04 and have tried all the solution on stackoverflow etc  now nothing is working getting errors like python-minimal not configured and etc anybody ?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !patience | will
[10:38] <ren0v0> why when i search for ubuntu 16.04 beta do i only get a link for MATE?
[10:39] <ren0v0> where is the official place to download standard beta?
[10:39] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | ren0v0
[10:41] <Flannel> will: `sudo apt-get install python` should fix that.
[10:41] <Abe_> ok so I could boot up from ubuntu-cd load this cryptsetup and remove it and resize the partition. but I see that you have to resize the partition with terminal and then it's probably easier to copy everything somewhere else
[10:42] <Abe_> because nahh that looks too risky
[10:43] <will> Flannel: producing an error "error encountered while processing: Python-minimal and python " /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code (1) "
[10:43] <Flannel> will: What sorts of things were you trying from stackoverflow?
[10:44] <will> http://askubuntu.com/questions/187227/i-run-sudo-apt-get-remove-python2-7-can-i-restore-my-ubuntu-now
[10:44] <hil> Abe_, that sounds right :) take the slow and easy way, if you are unsure
[10:45] <will> Flannel: it there any way to go to previous state using live ubuntu usb
[10:45] <Abe_> but wait I can Get the live CD to recognize (activate) your LVM.*
[10:45] <Abe_> You can now manage your encrypted partitions, mount them, copy them, or perform maintenance (fsck, backup, resize).
[10:46] <Abe_> Resizing needs to be done via terminal. but isn't it possible to manage them in gparted?
[10:46] <slappymcfry> Hi, guys. How does one search through code for a project on launchpad without having to download it. I'm just looking to see if a variable is present.
[10:47] <Flannel> will: Can you please pastebin the error that it gave you?
[10:47] <Abe_> No I think i would have to back everything up
[10:47] <madjoe> Hi guys! Could someone help  me with this issue, please? http://askubuntu.com/questions/739592/issue-related-with-unmet-dependencies-after-installing-new-libraries
[10:48] <will> can't do that nothing is working on that system using ctrl+alt+f1 terminal
[10:48] <Flannel> will: fair enough.  Ok, try this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install python
[10:50] <xJeremyCx> hey guys. I want to write a c++ app that can be ran on both windows and ubuntu(without changing lot of code). Should I use MinGW or Cygwin?
[10:50] <will> Flannel: trying
[10:50] <cfhowlett> xJeremyCx, ask #programming
[10:50] <xJeremyCx> okay, thanks
[10:53] <Abe_> madjoe: do you really need those experimental lib files?
[10:54] <ubuntu-mate_> hi:) im trying to install ubuntu along side windows but im having trouble with the partitioning.. it only shows ~30 gb for files and the other ~6gb for ubuntu. however i have about 130 gb free space on my hard drive?
[10:55] <will> ubuntu-mate_ : run ubuntu live and open gaprted then look at your partitions
[10:56] <madjoe> Abe_: Well, I don't think so... but without those experimental files, my Simple Scan and Xsane don't detect my scanner. Anyway, I could live without my scanner.
[10:56] <ubuntu-mate_> thanks ill take a look
[10:56] <madjoe> Abe_: How could I revert those libs to default 15.10?
[10:57] <Abe_> I installed a printer once and you can get it to work over ubuntu system settings somewhere, but i don't use unity anymore
[10:57] <anzii> hey everyone - anyone have any experience in running WoW in Wine in Ubuntu 15.10?
[10:57] <Abe_> there was even a gui for it
[10:57] <cfhowlett> anzii, don't ask "does anyone ..." question.  ask the question that matters.
[10:58] <madjoe> Abe_: There's an issue with current version of saned, that's why I had to install those experimental libraries...
[10:58] <will> Flannel: i got error again :( "error processing package python (--configure): dependency problem leaving unconfigured . Errors were encountered while processing /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code(1) "
[10:59] <Flannel> will: What is the dependency problem?
[10:59] <will> Flannel: python-minimal
[10:59] <anzii> ok, I'm trying to optimize it, I've set the OpenGL values in the wine regedit - tried optimizing so my dps would get better - are there any tweaks in ubuntu in regards of running games like this better?
[10:59] <Flannel> will: and any more details? (should be version info)
[11:00] <Abe_> madjoe: If you are able to remove those i would follow this instruction propably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1475336
[11:00] <will> Flannel: wait i am going to write full error description
[11:00] <Flannel> will: like "wants version X, but version Y is to be installed"
[11:01] <cfhowlett> anzii, #winehq might have that info
[11:01] <Abe_> those*
[11:01] <will> Flannel: python depends on python-minimal = (2.7.5-5ubuntu3); however: package python-minimal is not configured yet
[11:02] <anzii> ok, my thought was that ubuntu users and developers might have more insight into this, since wine has general knowledge, maybe not specific for ubuntu. But I'll check that out :)
[11:02] <madjoe> Abe_: Ok, I'll try it.
[11:02] <Flannel> will: ok.  Try `sudo apt-get install python-minimal`  (it will error, this is expected, but we'll get info from the error.  We're trying to peel away the errors to figre out what the *actual* root problem is)
[11:05] <akis> hi all. i asked already in #xubuntu. i copied and pasted from libreoffice a password to mozilla and before i saved it in libreoffice file i closed the application. now i am out of website so i cannot change the password and i haven't save it too. Right click gives a gray "paste". i tried to paste it in other applications like mousepad or gimp but i wasn't lucky. i read a lot of documentation about and there is a bid discussion about this. is the
[11:05] <akis> re any chance to restore the clipboard content or is is definitely gone for ever? is there any chance to retrieve the information form a cache file or maybe from ...ram? i am under 14.04.1 without any clipboard manager installed. any tip or help please?
[11:05] <will> Flannel:No module named _struct , nd then same as previous error
[11:06] <cfhowlett> akis, he's gone, Jim.
[11:07] <Flannel> will: That's odd.  Ok.  Did you install any version of python manually or anything funky like that?
[11:08] <will> yup :p i was trying to upgrade it to 2.7.11
[11:08] <Flannel> will: and how were you going about doing that?
[11:09] <will> manually trying to build using source
[11:09] <will> Flannel: nd i tried to purge the older version of python
[11:09] <will> Flannel: then evrything went to shit
[11:10] <akis> cfhowlett: this is unfortunately what i don't want to believe! what is the writing mechanism on clipboard that cannot be recalled or restored? i read that it works through X system but isn't any possibility to search anything? or maybe mozilla stores temporally  this inf?
[11:10] <akis> info
[11:10] <Flannel> will: right.  You effectively told your system "remove python, I don't want it anymore", and then everything that uses python said "well, I guess I might as well go away too, since we don't have python"
[11:10] <cfhowlett> mozilla would the first to insist they don't store it.
[11:11] <will> Flannel: yeah same thing happened
[11:11] <Flannel> will: Ok.  Um.  I can only assume that your manually installed version of python is screwing up this package's installation somehow (by being the python called by the scripts, but not being the 'right' python).
[11:12] <will> Flannel: python is still installed on system
[11:12] <will> only some of confiurations are messed up
[11:12] <will> i think
[11:12] <Flannel> will: So, I guess my recommendation is to remove the python you manually installed, then try the above command again. And then once you've got that working, install python, then ubuntu-desktop, and you should be back to normal.
[11:12] <akis> cfhowlett: is any chance that libreoffice stored a cache file with the updated information which finally i didn't save by mistake?
[11:12] <Flannel> will: Well, if you can simply "sort out" the configurations, that's sufficient as well.
[11:13] <will> Flannel: i have tried almost every solution still no success it there any way to recover using live cd
[11:14] <Flannel> will: The LiveCD can't do anything more than we can do.  (Well, other than reinstall, which I suppose does count as 'some way'.)
[11:15] <cfhowlett> akis, *posssibly* in .tmp according to paths used by Libreoffice
[11:15] <cfhowlett> or .config/libreoffice/4/user
[11:16] <will> Flannel: yup , if nothing works out then i have to again setup my system . nd it is the worst thing that can happen to me today :(
[11:17] <Flannel> will: Trying to do something, breaking it horribly, trying to fix, and then giving up and reinstalling is the best way to learn about your system.
[11:17] <Flannel> will: But like I said, it's a python versioning issue, so if you can sort it out (see the error message before the dpkg error, it's a python runtime error having to do with the wrong path, you may be able to figure it out)
[11:18] <Abe_> madjoe: you need alls those use the once from 14.04 + the extra 64 bit package apt-get install lib32stdc++6 if you have an 64 bit system "probably*"  try to get a .deb driver from here http://support-au.canon.com.au/  then force the architechture: sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture *.deb .
[11:19] <Flannel> will: Actually, lets try this.  Try `sudo apt-get purge libpython2.7-minimal` and then `sudo apt-get install libpython2.7-minimal`
[11:19] <Flannel> will: (and then try installing python2.7-minimal again)
[11:19] <akis> cfhowlett: in /home?
[11:19] <will> Flannel: yeah i think i have python, python2,2.7,2.7-config,3,3.4,3.4m,3m omg on my system .
[11:19] <will> Flannel: ok
[11:20] <Abe_> madjoe: idk I read that here https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Canon-Drucker/&prev=search i can read it so doesn't really help you tho
[11:21] <cfhowlett> akis look at libreoffice > tools > options > libreoffice > paths.  see:  Backups & Temporary Files
[11:21] <Abe_> madjoe: That's the driver https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Canon-Drucker/&prev=search
[11:21] <Abe_> no wait
[11:22] <Abe_> here http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100272302.html
[11:23] <soul_> Hello guys. Do you know how to convert a mkv  video into mp4?
[11:24] <cfhowlett> soul_, avconv -u foo.mkv foo.mp4
[11:24] <sysop-rick> If i installed the package lxde.core in ubuntu 12.04 and i want to switch to this as default desktop environment, how would i define user-session= in file /usr/share/lightdm.conf ?
[11:24] <sysop-rick> user-session=lxde  or user-session=lubuntu ?
[11:24] <akis> cfhowlett: i did it already. temporary files are stored in /tmp but nothing useful is there and backfiles are stored in /home/user/.config/libreoffice/4/backup which is empty :-(. any other possibility to retrieve the lost data?
[11:25] <cfhowlett> sorry, akis .  bear in mind also that all memory actions effecting ram mean whatever might have been there is being increasingly fragmented.
[11:26] <will> Flannel: no success still the same error :(   life sucks
[11:26] <soul_> chachasmooth: -u or -i?
[11:27] <sysop-rick> If i installed the package lxde.core in ubuntu 12.04 and i want to switch to this as default desktop environment, how would i define user-session= in file /usr/share/lightdm.conf ? user-session=lxde  or user-session=lubuntu ?
[11:27] <madjoe> Abe_: Thanks man, I've found a way to get around this issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/739592/issue-related-with-unmet-dependencies-after-installing-new-libraries/739715#739715
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !patience | sysop-rick,
[11:28] <soul_> cfhowlett: -u doesn't exist and using -i turns into an empty file
[11:28] <akis> cfhowlett: ram is the only chance for me, but what do you exactly mean?
[11:28] <Abe_> good does you printer work or do you need the driver ?
[11:28] <Abe_> madjoe: good does you printer work or do you need the driver ?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> soul_, dpkg -r | grep libav-tools            returns what ?
[11:29] <Abe_> MX870 series IJ Printer Driver Ver. 3.30 for Linux (debian Packagearchive) - http://support-asia.canon-asia.com/contents/ASIA/EN/0100272302.html
[11:30] <cfhowlett> akis, I mean that IF there was any remnant in ram, it has been degraded by all the ram reads/writes since it first entered ram.  I stress IF
[11:30] <soul_> cfhowlett: I already installed libab-tools
[11:30] <cfhowlett> soul_, avconv -i  | pastebinit
[11:31] <fernando> ola
[11:32] <uhu1> bonjour - guten Tag - new to Mint (16 actually which otherwise worked fine) - 2cd time out in chatrooms - I'm using Firefox on 38.108.87.20 Vancouver is great, right - an Acer laptop with an i3 370M series chip - - -> GOOGLE and YAHOO not loading image functionality, only a ffew pictures and nothing opens - gmail also inaccessible - this suddenly started a week before Valentines - I did a re-install of Mint about the 22cd - I have a syslog file of events -
[11:32] <uhu1> any suggestions ? Yes Javascript reads enabled
[11:32] <hil> sysop-rick, should be user-session=Lubuntu
[11:32] <cfhowlett> uhu1, mint is not ubuntu.  not supported by ubuntu.  wrong channel
[11:32] <cfhowlett> !mint
[11:33] <Magentium> Howdy everyone :D Just wondering if anyone has noticed issues on 15.10 whereby the wifi wont scan after coming out of sleep mode?
[11:33] <Magentium> Can provide lspci etc if required.
[11:33] <uhu1> ubottu thanx a bunch
[11:35] <akis> cfhowlett: sure IF this was possible it is already almost 5 hours i lost the data and i am looking for a way to restore it without the mean time shutdown the system, but as there is a lot of ram unused maybe is not overwritten. but this is just a possibility...i know that. i am afraid today i faced this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334 although i am always very very careful.
[11:36] <ace> niccky
[11:36] <cfhowlett> soul_, try this:  avconv -i foo.mkv -c:v copy -c:a copy -sn foo.mp4
[11:37] <hil> Magentium, try this method with your wifi module: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2004690
[11:37] <aegis> poop
[11:41] <soul_> chachasmooth: Thanks for the work. At the end I installed VLC and allowed it to convert the video for me. None of the commands I found worked :/
[11:44] <Magentium> hil, thanks! Sorry for late reply, net went nuts here lol
[11:45] <belgianguy> Does anyone know if 16.04 takes steps wrt user privacy? As it seems that 'other' OS'es don't take that approach
[11:45] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1 | belgianguy
[11:45] <Magentium> hil, that is exactly the same adapter as mine! You are a mind reader! Teach me oh master!
[11:45] <belgianguy> ah, I'm sorry cfhowlett, I'll go and check it out :)
[11:46] <cfhowlett> belgianguy, no apology needed, happy2help!
[11:46] <aegis> do you prefer vim or nano or emacs?
[11:46] <Magentium> nano = god
[11:46] <hil> ... \o/
[11:46] <cfhowlett> aegis, please do not poll in this channel.  try #ubuntu-offtopic.  thanks
[11:47] <Magentium> Question, 14.04.X LTS is being replaced soon by another LTS right?Is that 16.04 that is replacing it?
[11:47] <hil> yes
[11:48] <Magentium> Too easy, shall stick to 15.10 for a few months until its released :D
[11:48] <cfhowlett> Magentium, I would not say "replacing" but 16.04 is the next LTS.
[11:48] <Magentium> cfhowlett, yeah my bad, i hate that word. I thought that 17.04 was the next LTS release and was going to "downgrade" my server to 14.04.(3?) and go from there, but will just wait :D
[11:49] <madjoe> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:  argyll argyll-ref gnome-control-center-data gnome-settings-daemon libcolord-gtk1 libgoa-backend-1.0-1
[11:49] <madjoe> I is safe to remove those packages?
[11:49] <madjoe> Is it safe to remove those packages?
[11:50] <Magentium> I would just run apt-get autoremove
[11:50] <Magentium> and let APT figure out what is needed and what isn't
[11:50] <madjoe> Magentium: this is the output of autoremove
[11:50] <Magentium> madjoe, that should be fine then :D
[11:50] <madjoe> Ok :)
[11:51] <Magentium> madjoe, that means that no other packages installed have declared that those packages are dependencies. You can leave them, or remove them.
[11:51] <ArAAn> hello
[11:51] <Magentium> ArAAn, hello :D
[11:51] <madjoe> Magentium: if any other app will need them, they will install them, right?
[11:52] <Magentium> madjoe, pending that the application is developed well yes :)
[11:52] <madjoe> nice! :)
[11:52] <Magentium> madjoe, but it also depends. If its in the canonical repo's it should pull those files, if its in it's own repo the dev may have their own version of the package set for install, either way, i live by autoremove and so far (touch wood) have had no issues in years of using it
[11:53] <madjoe> Magentium: good to know
[11:53]  * madjoe knocks on wood.
[11:54] <mike___> what's the most appropriate channel for discussing ubuntu's wacom input drivers?
[11:56] <cfhowlett> mike___, such discussions are rare indeed.  more productive to use the forums
[11:57] <Magentium> mike___, depending on your issue we MAY be able to help here? I have a Wacom Tablet, perhaps I've had the issue you're experiencing?
[12:07] <_SLM_> Hi - I cannot run any more updates because apparently my /boot is full. I ran BleachBit, as was recommended here, but it didn't solve it.
[12:09] <cfhowlett> http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu/ _SLM_
[12:10] <_SLM_> That link redirects me to unixmen.com
[12:10] <_SLM_> and their search option is broken
[12:11] <belgianguy> would autoremove clean older kernels up?
[12:11] <_SLM_> Using https://web.archive.org/web/20150703110343/http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-uninstall-the-old-kernels-in-ubuntu now
[12:11] <phom> 406424
[12:12] <phom> 406424
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:12] <gertS> Grettings.
[12:15] <_SLM_> Hm....
[12:16] <_SLM_> After following the steps on that page at the bottom of the page I suddenly see:
[12:16] <_SLM_> "Important : Do not uninstall the linux-image-generic as it is necessary to receive updates of the kernel."
[12:16] <_SLM_> Little late. After even providing the example: "sudo apt-get purge linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic"
[12:17] <_SLM_> Already deleted 2 generic ones
[12:17] <_SLM_> Messy tutorial... did I cause a problem now? :(
[12:18] <_SLM_> Why say: "Now for example try to delete the oldest one (change oldest kernel with your oldest one) :$ sudo apt-get purge oldest-kernel In my case :$ sudo apt-get purge linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic" and then below that "Important : Do not uninstall the linux-image-generic as it is necessary to receive updates of the kernel."
[12:18] <_SLM_> That is very messy :(
[12:18] <cfhowlett> _SLM_, you know what you removed.  sudo apt install it to get it back
[12:19] <hil> _SLM_, just the linux-image-generic and the latest kernel must remain
[12:19] <_SLM_> Ok, thanks cfhowlett
[12:19] <_SLM_> And ok hil, I'll do what cfhowlett suggested
[12:21] <_SLM_> Oh... wait. Did that tutorial maybe mean: linux-image-generic-lts-vivid			install ?
[12:21] <_SLM_> I suddenly see that at the bottom of $ dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image
[12:21] <_SLM_> Sorry, totally new at this
[12:21] <_SLM_> Very confused
[12:21] <Team24North> hi guys
[12:22] <Team24North> how can i delete the thunderbird tray icon ?
[12:23] <pers3us> Team24North: by uninstalling it?
[12:23] <Team24North> i'll try
[12:23] <hil> _SLM_, the linux-image-generic (without a number) must remain. And the linux-image with the last version number.
[12:23] <linuxlove> hello
[12:23] <_SLM_> Ah I see now, thanks hil
[12:23] <_SLM_> However
[12:24] <_SLM_> I dont see a linux-image-generic
[12:24] <_SLM_> Only
[12:24] <_SLM_> linux-image-generic-lts-vivid
[12:24] <linuxlove> i am using ubuntu 15.10 i need to connect SMS panel to my sql database how can i do that on ubuntu?
[12:24] <hil> _SLM_, yah, keep that one
[12:24] <_SLM_> Ah okay
[12:24] <_SLM_> will do, thanks
[12:24] <Team24North> the icon is still there
[12:24] <linuxlove> does exist a program for that ?
[12:25] <belgianguy> Team24North: the top system tray? in Unity?
[12:25] <Team24North> yes
[12:26] <linuxlove> i am using ubuntu 15.10 i need to connect SMS panel to my sql database how can i do that on ubuntu?
[12:26] <linuxlove> i am using ubuntu 15.10 i need to connect SMS panel to my sql database how can i do that on ubuntu?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> linuxlove, sms-tools?
[12:27] <pers3us> Team24North: Restart machine or restart x11
[12:27] <Team24North> ok brb
[12:28] <linuxlove> BluesKaj, does exist a way on ubuntu to do that?
[12:29] <BluesKaj> sms-tools , is all I can suggest , that's all I kinow, linuxlove
[12:29] <_SLM_> That solved the update problem. Thanks cfhowlett and hil
[12:29] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[12:29] <hil> ...\o/
[12:29] <_SLM_> :)
[12:30] <belgianguy> _SLM_: you might also want to look into what "autoremove" does, it might be of use :)
[12:30] <Team24North> ok it works. thx for your help
[12:30] <xubuntu787> hi,
[12:31] <_SLM_> I'll have a look belgianguy, thanks for the tip
[12:31] <linuxlove> BluesKaj, i have a website that my customers need to send message to my sms center and get a verify code
[12:31] <linuxlove> BluesKaj, what is sms-tools?
[12:31] <linuxlove> BluesKaj, is it a program in ubuntu?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> yes it is in the package manager, linuxlove
[12:32] <xubuntu787> is it possible to split the system partition as i haven't created any while installation?
[12:32] <linuxlove> BluesKaj, i see just SMS in package manager
[12:32] <pers3us> BluesKaj: Is it like some uptime info? What is this sms thing used for?
[12:33] <hil> sms-tools is a sound/music program
[12:33] <pers3us> BluesKaj, hil huh? what is this SMS panel linuxlove is talking about? :)
[12:34] <xubuntu_user> hi
[12:34] <hil> pers3us, i have no udea
[12:34] <hil>  idea
[12:34] <pers3us> :D
[12:34] <pers3us> same here. I am absolutely confused.
[12:34] <xubuntu_user> after updating ubuntu 14.04 it use wrong screen resolution, i cant set resolution to 1440 x 900
[12:35] <belgianguy> I guess something to do with phone interaction
[12:35] <belgianguy> sending/receiving texts
[12:35] <belgianguy> like http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16253033/how-to-use-phone-modem-with-smstools3-on-ubuntu-12-04
[12:35] <pers3us> But what could be the purpose? linuxlove do you want to send message to some phone?
[12:35] <hil> smstools3 is messaging server i guess
[12:35] <linuxlove> pers3us, no
[12:35] <pers3us> oh ..
[12:36] <hil> http://smstools3.kekekasvi.com/
[12:36] <belgianguy> linuxlove: what info do you want to store in SQL db?
[12:37] <gertS> xubuntu_user: You mean in graphical tools, right?
[12:37] <gertS> Did you edit your Xconfig, or use non-free graphical drivers?
[12:37] <linuxlove> belgianguy, the code that customer send by phone need to store in database
[12:37] <xubuntu_user> i reinstalled video driver
[12:37] <xubuntu_user> and 1440 900 is missing
[12:38] <bekks> xubuntu_user: And whichh video driver is it and how did you install it?
[12:38] <linuxlove> belgianguy, and i need to retrive data from database in my php code
[12:38] <pers3us> linuxlove: Basically you need SMS gateway to recieve the messages?
[12:38] <xubuntu_user> nvidia 304
[12:38] <linuxlove> pers3us, yes
[12:38] <xubuntu_user> from settings aditional drivers
[12:38] <belgianguy> linuxlove: I'd think you'd need either expore if there is an API/event handler you can hook into
[12:38] <CoolRabbit> CoolRabbit
[12:38] <linuxlove> pers3us, i dunno how can i configure a sms gateway on ubuntu
[12:39] <belgianguy> eg something like 'onMessageReceived' -> execute this code (script that writes to db)
[12:39] <pers3us> linuxlove: check out the link hil shared. It is what you are looking for.
[12:39] <pers3us> http://smstools3.kekekasvi.com/
[12:40] <CoolRabbit> do we have any known problems with Unity-tweaks hotcorners?
[12:41] <gertS> xubuntu_user: sorry, I use AMD.
[12:41] <gertS> Drivers can be a bitch, though. Maybe you have more luck setting your res with the tool Xrandr, if you don't use it already?
[12:41] <belgianguy> linuxlove: http://smstools3.kekekasvi.com/index.php?p=configure -> look for "eventhandler = filename"
[12:41] <belgianguy> Specifies an external program or script that will execute whenever a message was sent, received or failed.
[12:42] <gertS> Alternatively, for GUI: ARandR.
[12:43] <linuxlove> belgianguy, do i need a modem for that?
[12:44] <belgianguy> linuxlove: yeah, I think so, how would you connect to the cellphone network otherwhise?
[12:44] <bekks> linuxlove: Depends on how you want to connect your phone.
[12:44] <bekks> belgianguy: by using a phone :)
[12:44] <tete_> hi, is this also the channel for 16.04 or is there an alpha channel?
[12:44] <belgianguy> bekks: yeah, but he wants to receive texts from phones
[12:44] <linuxlove> belgianguy, i live at iran is this service available here
[12:44] <bekks> belgianguy: Then he needs a phone.
[12:45] <bekks> belgianguy: a modem cant receive texts.
[12:45] <bekks> linuxlove: you need a cellphone connected to your computer.
[12:46] <tete_> i copied the mini.iso for 16.04 to a usb stick with dd, but when i select the usb stick for booting being an uefi device, it looks like as if the loader would work but then the selection screen comes back again
[12:46] <tete_> like if something would block the boot process?
[12:46] <ed_1> can someone help please? i recently changed the pci wifi card on my laptop and now all my pci networks disappear after standby or reboot. they return after power out/battery out....5min...reboot. etc/network/interfaces has just # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) .auto lo.iface lo inet loopback.  the wifi card shows under nm but with hardware switch is OFF (its not) and 3g card is absent. i looked up similar problems and solutions but no good so f
[12:46] <ed_1> ar.
[12:46] <belgianguy> bekks: ah, I see, I just thought of connecting to the cellphone network (2G?)
[12:46] <pers3us> bekks: belgianguy linuxlove, the best way to go about is to integrate with some service provider. It is the easiest thing to do.
[12:46] <bekks> belgianguy: Which you need a cellphone for. :)
[12:46] <belgianguy> bekks: true :p
[12:46] <bekks> pers3us: integrating with a cellphone provide means: you need a phone.
[12:47] <belgianguy> pers3us: so a dongle with a SIM card would not fly?
[12:47] <pers3us> bekks: Actually the phone part is taken care by some provider. They will expose some api that you can access to get the updates on the messages recieved
[12:47] <bekks> pers3us: which you need a phone for.
[12:48] <pers3us> belgianguy: I am not sure how much configuration is required for that.
[12:48] <bekks> pers3us: I've done that ages ago with a Nokia.
[12:48] <bekks> pers3us: No provider integration needed at all, just a phone.
[12:48] <pers3us> I had done something similar long time ago. bekks, what you are talking about works alright, but probably is not a good option for some vendor
[12:48] <linuxlove> i dunno what do i need now
[12:48] <pers3us> or some website.
[12:49] <bekks> linuxlove: You need to clear up what you are actually wanting to do.
[12:49] <bekks> linuxlove: whats the big picture behind using smstools3?
[12:50] <pers3us> linuxlove: bekks is right. you need to elaborate a bit. If this is some development that you are doing, and there is some website, using a third party sms gateway provider is better than setting up your own infrastructure.
[12:50] <linuxlove> bekks, when my customer put a case for sale on my website he gets a code from me he should message that code to my sms center
[12:50] <pers3us> and if it is a hobby, go ahead and route messages from phone to your database. it isn't complicated enough.
[12:51] <pers3us> linuxlove: It would be better if you used some third party gateway provider. It is easier that way.
[12:51] <bekks> linuxlove: at that point, pers3us is right.
[12:51] <linuxlove> i need to save phone number and code on database
[12:52] <pers3us> So these gateway providers will give you apis which you can call, which will return the phone number and the code that was sent to these gateways.
[12:53] <linuxlove> as i have protocol with phone companies the pay of the money is just with phone credit
[12:54] <linuxlove> and when a customer send that code he pay with phone credit for advertsment
[12:54] <linuxlove> pers3us, i dunno how can i configure what you say
[12:55] <bekks> Then you need to integrate with a 3rd party gateway provider. You dont need to providde the messaging hardware for your customers.
[12:56] <ed_1> bump: can someone help please? i recently changed the pci wifi card on my laptop and now all my pci networks disappear after standby or reboot. they return after power out/battery out....5min...reboot. etc/network/interfaces has just # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) .auto lo.iface lo inet loopback.  the wifi card shows under nm but with hardware switch is OFF (its not) and 3g card is absent. i looked up similar problems and solutions but no goo
[12:56] <ed_1> d so far.
[12:56] <bekks> linuxlove: there is no need for messaging me in private, please keeo it in the channel. thank you.
[12:56] <pers3us> I don't know any provider in Iran so I can't help with actual documentation, here is a global one https://www.twilio.com/sms
[12:56] <belgianguy> ed_1: do you have any specs to share
[12:57] <crond> ed_1, what kind of card is it?
[12:57] <belgianguy> ed_1: card brand/model number/OS version/
[12:57] <linuxlove> pers3us, we have irancell here
[12:58] <linuxlove> irancell provider
[12:58] <bekks> linuxlove: So talk to twilio.com wether you can use their service in Iran, too.
[12:58] <ed_1> hi guys, i upgraded from intel stock abg to abgn also intel, shall i pastie dmesg or what? thanks
[12:58] <pers3us> linuxlove: talk to irancell then. Their support will help you better than us.
[12:58] <linuxlove> bekks, you mean i dont need any hardware?
[12:59] <bekks> linuxlove: No, using twilio.com you dont need any hardware. Talk to them, and talk to Irancell, too.
[12:59] <ed_1> just checking card model
[12:59] <linuxlove> i get access denid from https://www.twilio.com/sms
[13:00] <belgianguy> linuxlove: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiqupYG8ZqU here they use an USB dongle to send texts
[13:00] <crond> ed_1, try lspci | grep Network
[13:00] <pers3us> belgianguy: I don't think that should be the approach. He is running a website after all.
[13:01] <bekks> linuxlove: then yiu need to talk to Irancell.
[13:01] <ed_1> product: PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection
[13:01] <pers3us> linuxlove: How are you sending message in the first place?
[13:01] <belgianguy> pers3us: ah, if he has no access to hardware, he needs to use 3rd party services indeed
[13:01] <linuxlove> pers3us, what do you mean?
[13:01] <ed_1> 0b:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
[13:02] <pers3us> linuxlove: You have to send some message which the customer needs to send back to a certain number right?
[13:02] <linuxlove> pers3us, yes
[13:02] <ed_1> 3945 was the old card
[13:02] <pers3us> linuxlove: So how are you sending the message to customer?
[13:02] <xubuntu_user> can anyone help me ? how can i set custom resolution in xubuntu?
[13:03] <pers3us> xubuntu_user: There was a simple option in xfce iirc.
[13:03] <ed_1> Bus 003 Device 013: ID 1199:6855 Sierra Wireless, Inc.  also missing
[13:03] <crond> ed_1, try sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi and then sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1
[13:03] <crond> see if that helps
[13:04] <linuxlove> pers3us, no , he see from website that he should send message to the number that he see for example number 20000010 and code=1245
[13:04] <xubuntu_user> i want to chane screen resolution to 1440x900 and this res. is missing from list
[13:04] <xubuntu_user> change
[13:04] <bekks> xubuntu_user: Does your screen even support that resolution?
[13:04] <linuxlove> pers3us, he should send code=1245 to number 20000010 by phone
[13:04] <crond> ed_1, if it does, add options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 to /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf , but do it manually first to see if that fixes the issue
[13:05] <ed_1> rmmod: ERROR: missing module name.
[13:05] <ed_1> modprobe: FATAL: Error running remove command for iwlwifi
[13:05] <xubuntu_user> yes
[13:05] <crond> Huh
[13:05] <linuxlove> pers3us, he see this in website when he fill form for sale a case
[13:06] <bekks> ed_1: sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi
[13:06] <xubuntu_user> after update res changed to 1150 860
[13:06] <bekks> ed_1: that will remove that module.
[13:06] <gertS> ubuntu_user: Try the following in a command line: xrandr
[13:06] <linuxlove> pers3us, i just need to match phone number and code from database
[13:06] <ed_1> oops, im stupid, cut and paste too much
[13:06] <gertS> It will all avaiable display resolutions.
[13:07] <bekks> linuxlove: you need to talk to Irancell.
[13:07] <linuxlove> pers3us, did you get it?
[13:07] <pers3us> linuxlove: That is fine, what I want to know is, how are u sending the message? Are you calling some API
[13:07] <bekks> pers3us: Yes, since he needs to send the message to the customer, by cellphone. Irancell issue.
[13:07] <ed_1> rmmod: ERROR: missing module name.
[13:07] <ed_1> modprobe: FATAL: Error running remove command for iwlwifi
[13:08] <linuxlove> bekks, i dont need to send message i just need to recieve message
[13:08] <crond> you may be using iwl4965 then, but I am not sure of a fix for that
[13:08] <gertS> ubuntu_user: Look if 1440x980 or whatever even shows as supported.
[13:08] <bekks> linuxlove: which is the same technically, you need to use some API.
[13:08] <linuxlove> just customer send code to my sms center
[13:09] <bekks> linuxlove: And this API can be provided by Irancell, e.g.
[13:09] <pers3us> linuxlove: oh, alright. You need to get in touch with Irancell to do that.
[13:09] <pers3us> bekks is right, just talk to their support. They will explain everything.
[13:09] <linuxlove> okay
[13:09] <linuxlove> for last question
[13:10] <hicoleri> How do I make an application restart even after it closes unexpectedly (like after an error)? I'm trying to do this with redshift.
[13:10] <linuxlove> i dont need to hardware then?
[13:10] <bekks> linuxlove: You asked that three times now, and your question was already answered.
[13:11] <linuxlove> bekks, okay
[13:11] <pers3us> bekks:  :D
[13:11] <linuxlove> thanks guys
[13:12] <qlats> Ada
[13:12] <pers3us> hicoleri: upstart?
[13:14] <hicoleri> pers3us:how?
[13:15] <pers3us> hicoleri: This is a good guide. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-a-linux-service-to-start-automatically-after-a-crash-or-reboot-part-1-practical-examples
[13:17] <pers3us> hicoleri: basically you need to configure upstart script, i.e. make it a service, then have "respawn" in your config. You can set respawn parameters like "respawn limit 2 5". This tells how many retries it has to do.
[13:18] <hicoleri> pers3us:okay
[13:18] <gertS> xubuntu_user: a good guide would be wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr Maybe, just your systems' screen autodetection got defunct.
[13:19] <pers3us> hicoleri: Check this one, it is without digitalocean's droplets. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-a-linux-service-to-start-automatically-after-a-crash-or-reboot-part-2-reference
[13:24] <CoolRabbit> anyone know how to make a boot_grub partition so my Mac continues to boot my Ubuntu after I reshaped my partitions?
[13:25] <CoolRabbit> 2 - can I resize my / partition while using Ubuntu or would it be better to boot a rescue DVD?
[13:25] <linuxlove> hey pers3us did you watch that video?
[13:25] <pers3us> linuxlove: Nope.
[13:25] <crond> CoolRabbit, you can't resize a partition that is in use.  You'd have to unmount it.
[13:25] <belgianguy> CoolRabbit: making a backup can save you much headaches
[13:26] <linuxlove> pers3us, is not useful for me?
[13:26] <CoolRabbit> crond ... thx ...
[13:26] <linuxlove> pers3us, they use from a usb
[13:27] <CoolRabbit> crond do you know how to flag a partition to grub_boot from the 14.04 install media?
[13:27] <linuxlove> pers3us, could you take  look at it?
[13:27] <pers3us> linuxlove: I didn't watch the video so can't comment on that. But as far as I understand, if you have a wesbite running, and it is hosted somewhere which most probably is not your own premise, any sort of hardware access won't work
[13:27] <linuxlove> it is on my own
[13:28] <linuxlove> my server is this ubuntu that i am running
[13:28] <pers3us> linuxlove: That is not a good idea either.
[13:28] <CoolRabbit> belgianguy, my /home is in a separate partition ... my stuff are safe
[13:28] <linuxlove> pers3us, why ?
[13:28] <linuxlove> pers3us, my server is this system at the moment
[13:29] <linuxlove> pers3us, but i cant understand how they use usb for that
[13:29] <pers3us> linuxlove: Can you guarantee uptime or power outage etc? Can you handle the traffic when there are open connections?
[13:29] <crond> CoolRabbit, I do not, sorry.  I'd have to google it.
[13:29] <pers3us> linuxlove: I am not sure about that. I have never done anything of that sort.
[13:29] <CoolRabbit> thx Ill google by myself ;)
[13:30] <pers3us> CoolRabbit: Don't you have to use some other bootloader for mac?
[13:30] <crond> CoolRabbit, sounds like a plan :)
[13:30] <linuxlove> pers3us, it is my website for test now
[13:30] <pers3us> CoolRabbit: I thought it was chameleon
[13:30] <linuxlove> i am testing all thing on it
[13:31] <pers3us> linuxlove: Doesn't matter, when it goes live, how will you ensure that you have physical access, i.e. you are able to plug your usb dongle there.
[13:32] <linuxlove> pers3us, i am in doubt
[13:33] <linuxlove> pers3us, but i cant cost at the moment
[13:33] <tete_> i downloaded now 16.04 alpha2 iso and booted from that, uefi setup works but: where is the advanced installer?! i would like to use the ncurses based advanced installer (which worked like a charm in the mini.iso) - where is it?
[13:33] <CoolRabbit> pers3us, I use the EFInt and it works fine ... In newer Macs it seems Grub will suffice though ... I ave a old (2008) macbook and rEFind works marvelous
[13:33] <CoolRabbit> . I use rEFind ... sorry
[13:33] <pers3us> oh ya sorry rEFind .. not chameleon.
[13:33] <pers3us> chameleon is for hackintosh.
[13:34] <crond> tete_, try #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 stuff
[13:34] <tete_> thanks
[13:34] <DzAirmaX> hi guyz!
[13:34] <linuxlove> pers3us, what is a usb dongle
[13:34] <linuxlove> ?
[13:35] <pers3us> linuxlove: It's basically a GSM modem.
[13:35] <DzAirmaX> one simple question, I have a nano process running and I ant to go back into it, how can I do ?
[13:36] <linuxlove> pers3us, for begining of my website in your opinion is it useful for me to buy a usb dongle
[13:37] <crond> o.O
[13:37] <linuxlove> pers3us, or use from API from now
[13:37] <DzAirmaX> thats the command kill -CONT
[13:37] <DzAirmaX> found it take care guyz, have a nice one xD
[13:38] <pers3us> linuxlove: At this point, I don't know if you understand the problem. Service providers generally provide some free API calls for testing and integration. You should get in touch with them. As far as USB dongle is concerned, you need to think about what you are building than asking here.
[13:39] <linuxlove> pers3us, thanks
[13:44] <quadrupel> hi, I have an ubuntu vm using VMware workstation 12 inside an ubuntu 15.10 host and after switching between vm and host sometimes the mouse cursor does not match with real position inside vm
[13:49] <quadrupel> after resizing the window it is working again
[13:52] <belgianguy> linuxlove: I'd write down what you want to do, clearly laying out the different interacting components
[13:52] <belgianguy> and seeing where you need what knowledge
[13:52] <maqbool> How to guys understand large codebase?
[13:53] <bekks> maqbool: That question doesnt make much sense.
[13:53] <belgianguy> maqbool: documentation, interfaces, knowledge of the topic at hand
[13:54] <belgianguy> maqbool: and time, lots of time
[13:54] <quadrupel> hi, I have an ubuntu vm using VMware workstation 12 inside an ubuntu 15.10 host and after switching between vm and host sometimes the mouse cursor does not match with real position inside vm. after resizing host window it is working again but it is rly annoying that I have to do that. can u help me?
[13:55] <quadrupel> *not the host window. lol
[13:55] <imthenachoman> hello guys. i've got a fresh install of ubuntu. there is a command that configures apt-get upgrade so that when there are readme files it will "more" or "less" them so the user can read the details. so when they do apt-get upgrade they will see the contents of the file and have to q to quit the more for that file so it can continue the upgrade. anyone know the command?
[13:55] <belgianguy> quadrupel: I'd gather that's due to your virtualisation, not Ubuntu per se
[13:56] <quadrupel> belgianguy, what can I do to solve that issue or to find out what the problem is?
[13:57] <bekks> quadrupel: update the guest additions, possibly.
[13:57] <bekks> quadrupel: If thath doesnt help, the next step would be the VMware Knowledgebase.
[13:58] <quadrupel> ok. thanks
[14:01] <codemagician> Does anyone know how to remedy a hung mouse pointer in Unity desktop - it's stuck as a hand icon (15.10)?
[14:02] <drspastic> Please help get my wifi back
[14:02] <drspastic> It disappeared after restart or standby
[14:13] <silo> ctf
[14:20] <everson> Hi. I use a laptop with a docking station. I also use multiple Workspaces on my Ubuntu desktop which I use to categorise open windows (ie: Workspace 1 for IDE, 2 for browser, 3 for documents, etc.). When I dock / undock my laptop, my workspace windows get jumbled up and I have to resort them. Is this a known issue? Is there a work-around? Thanks.
[14:27] <ed_1> hi, im back again. still trying to fix this wifi, every time i standby or boot i lose the intel 4965 pci card, ubuntu tells disabled y swithch. battery out for 5 mins and boots up fine.
[14:28] <ed_1> i need to find out why and fix permenant or will need to downgrade to old wifi card
[14:29] <belgianguy> ed_1: any fixes you already tried? What Ubuntu version are you on?
[14:31] <ed_1> 3.13.0-44-generic #73-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 16 00:23:46 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:32] <belgianguy> ed_1: that's the lernel version I assume, what Ubuntu are you running?
[14:32] <ed_1> tried rfkill unblock modules and other things i dont understand
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> don't paste random lines ... xhzt's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> what's
[14:32] <ed_1> think its 1404
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> ed_1  cat /etc/issue    what's the outcome
[14:34] <venom_> any one here from Egypt
[14:35] <belgianguy> ed_1: "lsb_release -a" is the command to show what version you have (in a terminal, without quotes)
[14:35] <ed_1> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[14:35] <ev0lv3> hello
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> venom_  we're all from the same planet, this is ubuntu support
[14:35] <venom_> @ev0lv3
[14:35] <everson> haha
[14:35] <ev0lv3> can someone tell me a vnc client for ubuntu?
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> !vnc| ev0lv3 start here
[14:36] <ed_1> LSB Version:	core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch:core-4.1-ia32:core-4.1-noarch:security-4.0-ia32:security-4.0-noarch:security-4.1-ia32:security-4.1-noarch
[14:36] <ed_1> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[14:36] <ed_1> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[14:36] <ed_1> Release:	14.04
[14:36] <ed_1> Codename:	trusty
[14:36] <venom_> i mean near to me more if i need some help :D
[14:36] <ed_1> sorry
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> ed_1  http://paste.ubuntu.com/    use this for multiple lines
[14:37] <venom_> i have small problem i brought  a USB wifi card totlink N150UA
[14:37] <venom_> and i work only without monitor mod
[14:37] <jophish> Hi
[14:37] <venom_> is there any help
[14:37] <jophish> I'm running into an issue exactly as described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/726052/ubuntu-booting-in-insecure-mode-with-secureboot-enabled
[14:38] <Guest89976> my computer reports that it's booting in insecure mode even when that's enabled in the bios
[14:38] <jophish____> I've tried switching it off and on again in the bios to no avail
  is there a way to check whats going on after it fails?
[14:40] <Nilesh> can anyone help with dpkg: error processing package runit (--configure): problem?
[14:41] <StephenS> I have an issue with setting wallpaper
[14:41] <StephenS> its set rotated for 180
[14:41] <StephenS> I dont know, but its upside down, I opened it in image viewer and it was straight, but when I set it as background, its rotated... ?
[14:56] <ubuntu-mate> ?
[15:00] <belgianguy> StephenS: was this a picture taken with a mobile phone?
[15:00] <belgianguy> maybe it contains orientation data of some sort that gets read
[15:12] <slowmc> ls
[15:13] <StephenS> belgianguy, yes
[15:13] <ign0s> hi there
[15:13] <StephenS> its a taken by phone
[15:13] <StephenS> and orientation is screwed
[15:13] <StephenS> I can see with ffmpeg that metadata for rotate is 180
[15:13] <ign0s> wow  a lot of ppl no op
[15:13] <StephenS> its because portrait and landscape on android
[15:13] <ign0s> xD
[15:13] <belgianguy> StephenS: can you remove that ? :)
[15:13] <StephenS> but now I need a way to rotate it on ubuntu
[15:14] <StephenS> I could remove that, but it requires decoding and encoding for each pic
[15:14] <StephenS> I want a simpler method :)
[15:14] <NegativeFlare> Wow, the wiki is down
[15:14] <belgianguy> StephenS: the code for setting backgrounds takes it into account
[15:15] <belgianguy> so I'm afraid that's the only way, strip the rotation info by script?
[15:15] <belgianguy> StephenS: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2654281/how-to-remove-exif-data-without-recompressing-the-jpeg
[15:15] <belgianguy> would that work?
[15:16] <StephenS> actually
[15:16] <StephenS> Input #0, image2, from 'x.jpg':
[15:16] <StephenS>   Duration: 00:00:00.04, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 150848 kb/s
[15:16] <StephenS>     Stream #0:0: Video: mjpeg, yuvj420p(pc, bt470bg/unknown/unknown), 1920x1080, 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc
[15:16] <StephenS> no rotation metatag, hmm I assumed it was there by default
[15:16] <belgianguy> StephenS: best to use pastebin for multi-line things
[15:17] <belgianguy> StephenS: maybe try the tool, see if it works?
[15:17] <grig_> Can anyone? I am try andriod development on xubuntu 32 bit i686 and having problems
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> grig_  that's for the android channel, then
[15:19] <belgianguy> grig_:  #android-dev
[15:19] <StephenS> belgianguy, that tool rotates my pic
[15:19] <StephenS> but when I set it as wallpaper, I still get it rotated
[15:19] <StephenS> wtf
[15:19] <StephenS> I dont get it
[15:20] <belgianguy> StephenS: then I don't know what's causing it. I'd load it into GIMP and save it as a PNG to be sure it's not the EXIF data
[15:20] <belgianguy> or cursed
[15:21] <StephenS> belgianguy, thanks!
[15:21] <StephenS> gimp thing worked
[15:21] <belgianguy> StephenS: happy to help :)
[15:23] <grig_> @belgianguy: There's noone there
[15:24] <bekks> grig_: There are 398 people in that room.
[15:25] <belgianguy> grig_: I come there quite often, but join ubuntu-offtopic for non-ubuntu chats
[15:25] <belgianguy> there they might be more lenient towards such topics
[15:26] <belgianguy> grig_: or PM me your general issue, I use Android Studio under Ubuntu 15
[15:26] <belgianguy> .10
[15:31] <TheEagerPadawan>  trying to backup .mozilla with a live cd, system reports that i don't have permission
[15:33] <bekks> Then you dont have permissions. Did you check the permissions?
[15:34] <consolejazz> TheEagerPadawan: able to access the desktop? get to the command line with Alt+F2, then enter `gksudo nautilus`
[15:34] <consolejazz> see if you can navigate to the desired directory
[15:35] <err> hello everybody. Can somebody help me with vpn
[15:35] <SchrodingersScat> !vpn | err
[15:35] <consolejazz> you guys and your fancy bots :>
[15:36] <irawansyah> helpme
[15:36] <statusfailed> How do I turn on ipv6 on 15.10 ?
[15:36] <statusfailed> I get "network unreachable" when I try to ping6 ipv6.google.com
[15:37] <bekks> statusfailed: does your ISP support IPv6?
[15:37] <irawansyah> before my genymotion run verywell but now cant run any error messsage unable to load virtualbox engine, make surrre that it is properly installed before start genymotio
[15:37] <err> wiki is not enough for me. I would like to use softether with a 3 hubs and 3 sites
[15:38] <statusfailed> bekks: Yes
[15:38] <bekks> irawansyah: So did you make sure it is properly installed?
[15:38] <statusfailed> It used to work fine on Arch Linux
[15:38] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | err
[15:38] <bekks> err: What is "softether"?
[15:39] <err> vpn software
[15:39] <irawansyah> ya, before virtualbox properly installed
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> err  start from the beginning, what are you doing, what brings you here
[15:39] <bekks> irawansyah: And now, is it properly installed?
[15:39] <err> availeabel for linux, mac, win, with a useable gui
[15:39] <irawansyah> ya
[15:40] <irawansyah> i can run virtualbox
[15:41] <err> Monkeydust: I would like to build a vpn with 3 sites. I have a connection to the vpn server but i cant reach pcs from one subnet to another. That is my problem
[15:41] <TheEagerPadawan> bekks: seems like the folder was created by root
[15:42] <TheEagerPadawan> consolejazz: seems like the file was created by root
[15:42] <bekks> TheEagerPadawan: While folder/file?
[15:42] <err> I tried a lot of settings but I cant get along with it so thatswhy I would like to get som help
[15:42] <irawansyah> bekks: how to fix it
[15:43] <bekks> irawansyah: Can you pastebin the exact error message pleasE?
[15:43] <consolejazz> irawansyah: you may wish to also try asking in ##networking
[15:43] <bekks> err: So establish three vpn between these sites.
[15:43] <consolejazz> for another perspective
[15:44] <consolejazz> TheEagerPadawan: so you don't have admin access? are you able to access the `.mozilla` folder now or not?
[15:44] <bekks> consolejazz: he is on a livecd.
[15:44] <consolejazz> TheEagerPadawan: you ran `gksudo nautilus` at the commandline right
[15:45] <consolejazz> bekks: ah, thanks
[15:46] <bekks> err: No need for an unasked query, keep it in the channel please.
[15:46] <TheEagerPadawan> let me try the gksudo trick
[15:47] <err> Sorry.
[15:48] <err> So, 1 site is a server s site, and I have 2 other sites which are connected to the server.
[15:48] <bekks> err: Then you need to setup a VPN dialin, and just connect your sites to your server.
[15:49] <err> I already have the connection.
[15:50] <err> 3 sites has 3 different subnets. but I do not know where and how to set the gateways.
[15:50] <TheEagerPadawan> consolejazz: gksudo nautilus - program gksudi is curren'tly not installed
[15:50] <bekks> TheEagerPadawan: gksudo isnt gksu
[15:53] <TheEagerPadawan> come again?
[15:53] <powerup> hola hello
[15:53] <err> each site need to run vpnserver or vpnbridge. the vpnserver and vpn bridge has a virtual hub in it. When You want to connect the physical lan, You have to make a localbridge to the lan.
[15:53] <powerup> spanish
[15:53] <belgianguy> err:  that's #networking IMO
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> !es
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> ##networking, dounle #
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> double*
[15:54] <belgianguy> MonkeyDust: ah, oops
[15:54] <viju> Hi, how do I know what firewall is being used in ubuntu 12.04?
[15:55] <err> I know it is networking. I also know I have to set some static route.
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> viju  iptables
[15:56] <err> I need some help in it
[15:56] <viju> MonkeyDust, how do I check for the status?
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> viju  sudo ufw status
[15:57] <Sentinal> Hello.
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> viju  ufw = uncomplicated firewall
[15:57] <viju> MonkeyDust,  ufw is inactive
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> viju  sudo ufw enable
[15:58] <viju> Is it a front end to iptables?
[15:58] <err> I am fighting with this problem for a while so Please Just give me a guide than I figure out how to do
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> viju  gufw or fwbuilder
[15:58] <viju> Don't know why I turned it off.
[15:59] <belgianguy> locked myself out of my VPS once, good times
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> viju  there's also fail2ban
[16:04] <viju> Ok
[16:04] <silkey> hello people
[16:11] <TheEagerPadawan> and got access to root
[16:12] <TheEagerPadawan> case closed ;)
[16:12] <ulrike_> my dvd-rw drive is not recognised I think (when I check the kernel messsages with "tail -f | dmesg" it doesn't show anything if a CD is entered). The drive makes noise though
[16:13] <ulrike_> where do I start when I want to get it working?
[16:13] <daftykins> drive firmware tells it to spin up media and begin to read even if the OS isn't really communicating with it
[16:14] <daftykins> i think you have your command backwards, but see if your brand of drive comes up in dmesg at all - otherwise check the connections
[16:14] <ulrike_> is a cd drive usually listed in lspci?
[16:14] <ulrike_> I can't locate mine in the results
[16:14] <daftykins> no because it's not a PCI device
[16:15] <daftykins> check it's detected in your BIOS
[16:15] <ulrike_> will do, thx brb
[16:15] <daftykins> if it's modern enough to be SATA and it's definitely connected ok, it should be there - if it's PATA, check the jumper configuration on the back of the drive
[16:16] <ulrike_> it's a notebook so I guess it is SATA, the notebook got shipped with windows vista
[16:16] <ulrike_> guess it is sata
[16:16] <ulrike_> brb rebooting
[16:16] <daftykins> ah ok
[16:20] <ulrike_> daftykins: I think it is recognised now
[16:20] <daftykins> what did you change?
[16:20] <ulrike_> i saw it in the bios and now there is an "Audio CD" icon on the desktop
[16:21] <ulrike_> nothing, but I did install a lot of updates before I entered the cd
[16:21] <ulrike_> maybe something had to do with the drive
[16:21] <ulrike_> all the 14.04.4
[16:21] <ulrike_> i didnt update the system for a few weeks
[16:25] <docmur> I'm trying to make a custom live DVD and when I try to copy /usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux.bin, Im getting "No such file or directory", but I installed syslinux-common and utils
[16:31] <MeatHammer> hey all, how do I return the PID of a network namespace?
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> MeatHammer  is this useful http://www.haifux.org/lectures/299/netLec7.pdf
[16:43] <holdsworth> how can I switch to already running process that is in the background?
[16:45] <ouroumov> holdsworth, "fg" command
[16:47] <ed_1> back for more... losing wifi card after standby/reboot. heres some huge pastie if anyone can help diagnose please. http://paste.ubuntu.com/15216474/
[16:47] <Nukien> What's the fastest way to copy a 2TB file from one sata3 disk to another both on xfs ? I'm using rsync now but only getting 50MB/s
[16:48] <cilly_> Hello ppl.I am having wi-fi issue in a Dell M1330 with an Dell 1505 .I have tried ndiswrapper and wicd.Sometimes I get to see my wi-fi network,can connect to it,but not being able to receive any kind of data.
[16:48] <Nukien> 50MB/s is piss-poor
[16:48] <compdoc> both drives in the same PC and copy
[16:48] <Nukien> They're both local
[16:49] <compdoc> you mean net
[16:49] <Nukien> No - both in same system
[16:49] <compdoc> wow. slow drives
[16:49] <compdoc> or one is
[16:49] <Nukien> shouldn't be - toshiba 3tb sata3 7200rpm
[16:50] <compdoc> I would think 100-120MB/s
[16:50] <compdoc> rsync does a lot of checking, but I only use it for net transfers
[16:51] <Nukien> THey're even on separate asmedia pcie sata cards
[16:51] <compdoc> you ever benchmark them? the disk utility can test their speeds
[16:52] <compdoc> I suppose if the cards are sharing IRQs, it might make it slow
[16:52] <Nukien> server - shell only
[16:53] <Nukien> Hrm - sudo ioping -s 128M -S 256M 3.0TB-B
[16:53] <Nukien> 134217728 bytes from 3.0TB-B (xfs /dev/sdk1): request=1 time=686.2 ms
[16:53] <Nukien> other drive is similar
[16:54] <Nukien> I want to duplicate one drive to the other completely, maybe use dd and change the uuid after ?
[16:54] <tarvid> trying to install Ubuntu desktop on a Dell XPS with an Nvidia GTK 960. I can make it through the install if I add nomodeset to the boot parameters but eventually the box will choose an unworkable display mode which locks up the machine
[16:55] <ChibaPet> Hey all. Reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages there isn't a mention of Unity. Does the gnome-desktop-environment metapackage install Unity or Gnome Shell? What's the correct metapackage for a stock Unity environment?
[16:55] <Nukien> As in dd if=/dev/sdj of=/dev/sdk bs=4096
[16:55] <compdoc> Nukien, possibly. I dont use dd, but others here are expert
[16:55] <ChibaPet> Nukien: What's the question?
[16:55] <Nukien> Fastest way to copy a 3tb drive to another
[16:56] <Nukien> Contains a couple of *huge* files, one is 2.3tb
[16:56] <Nukien> rsync only getting 50MB/s
[16:56] <compdoc> Nukien, btw, you can boot a live cd/usb of ubuntu desktop and run the benchmarks if you ever get curious
[16:56] <ChibaPet> Nukien: Someone once noted that cp is faster than dd.
[16:56] <ChibaPet> Nukien: That said, if it were me, I'd rsync and let it take the day. 50MB/s sounds not far from disk cap.
[16:57] <Nukien> Nah - should be getting way more than that I would think
[16:57] <Nukien> both sata3
[16:57] <ChibaPet> Nukien: Spinning rust can't get anywhere near sata3's cap.
[16:57] <ChibaPet> Spinning rust can't, IIRC, hit sata2's cap.
[16:57] <ChibaPet> Even drives rated for sata3.
[16:58] <Nukien> true, but should be better than 50MB/s
[16:58] <ChibaPet> When I'm scrubbing a pool, I tend not to expect much better than 50-60M/s, and that's pretty near ideal for speed.
[16:59] <Nukien> Wow - my media box gets 200MB/s on one pool and over 400MB/s on the other
[16:59] <Nukien> for a scrub
[16:59] <ChibaPet> Hrm. I'm envious. :P
[16:59] <Nukien> 5x 3tb drives per pool
[17:00] <ChibaPet> raidz? I just use mirrors here.
[17:00] <Nukien> yup raidz
[17:00] <ChibaPet> I'd imagine raidz can hit all the components at once when scrubbing. Unsure.
[17:00] <ChibaPet> I think what I'm seeing is much closer to normal single-disk performance.
[17:01] <Nukien> cp doesn't have a progress meter to see how fast it's going - any other suggestions ?
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> Nukien  rsync --progress
[17:01] <BluesKaj> tarvid, if you can get to the VT/TTY, sudo apt install nvidia-361
[17:01] <Nukien> MonkeyDust, That's what's giving 50MB/s
[17:01] <ChibaPet> If it were me I'd just stick with dd or rsync, even if they're not wicked fast. Assuming you're moving *onto* ZFS it'll be a one-time problem.
[17:02] <Nukien> This is a snapraid parity disk until I convert that backup box to full zfs
[17:02] <Nukien> Heh probably lost any potential speedup from an alternative method just with the bitching about it in here
[17:02] <ChibaPet> :P
[17:03] <SchrodingersScat> think of the future though
[17:03] <ChibaPet> In the future he'll be doing it with zfs send/receive :P
[17:04] <Nukien> aye for zfs :)
[17:04] <Nukien> Hrm - I suppose I could just let snapraid re-create the parity file on the next sync
[17:04] <ChibaPet> So, would I be correct in positing that I don't install any of the desktop environment metapackages, but just the unity package? Or is there a Unity desktop metapackage I'm missing?
[17:05] <tarvid> Thanks but once the display switches the machine freezes -
[17:05] <explaymant> Fatal IO error 22 (Das Argument ist ungültig) on X server :0.0.
[17:06] <explaymant> was heißt das
[17:06] <Nukien> I gotta say, for a bunch of random disks, snapraid is great
[17:07] <daftykins> you only know how good a RAID setup is once disks start dying.
[17:08] <Nukien> Tested once so far, worked fine. This is a backup box for the main media (zfs) box, so not *too* worried
[17:08] <daftykins> then you can judge it :) though here's a fun fact - making rational decisions to repair RAID volumes is so much easier when it's not your personal data :)
[17:08] <Nukien> Plus critical stuff is up in crashplan, so 3x copies
[17:09] <ChibaPet> Crashplan is painful if you ever need to restore from bare metal.
[17:10] <ChibaPet> I'm a fan of SATA enclosures and a $25 safe deposit box at a bank, swapped weekly.
[17:10] <daftykins> we're going a bit off topic now - but i seem to recall reading some service similar to that will ship out a disk if you want to restore
[17:10] <Nukien> daftykins, that's backblaze
[17:10] <daftykins> i'm sure it's more than just them.
[17:10] <Nukien> And Amazon S3 I think
[17:10] <ChibaPet> So, my plan - someone please shoot it down if I'm confused - is to install ubuntu-desktop (which says it installs gnome on that meta package) and end up with a default Unity install.
[17:11] <ChibaPet> s/package/& page/
[17:11] <BluesKaj> tarvid, is this a laptop with hybrid graphics AKA Optimus?
[17:11] <Nukien> ChibaPet, Crashplan is good - I can spin up an ubuntu server with it installed in no time, or install on a spare win7 box
[17:11] <daftykins> ChibaPet: not gnome but unity, which is technically a gnome mod/theme type thing
[17:11] <ChibaPet> daftykins: That makes it make sense then.
[17:11] <Nukien> mediabox has main account, other local systems back up to mediabox
[17:12] <ChibaPet> I'm doing a server install for a friend so he can have the RAID/LUKS he's used to, but then he needs an environment on it and I don't want to saddle him with Gnome Shell.
[17:12] <daftykins> so it's already an abortion of a server ;)
[17:12] <ChibaPet> And he'd shoot himself if I gave him i3 or what I use.
[17:12] <Nukien> i3 ?
[17:12] <daftykins> hell i'd shoot you too.
[17:12] <rory> ChibaPet: try lubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop they might be a bit lighter?
[17:12] <rory> ChibaPet: for remote stuff
[17:12] <daftykins> Nukien: the flavour of the week for the Linux youth ;)
[17:13] <ChibaPet> rory: It's not a server. You just can't do RAID and LUKS with the desktop installer.
[17:13] <daftykins> yes you can
[17:13] <Nukien> ChibaPet, Got my root on zfs (on luks) script working nicely now
[17:13] <Nukien> It's 14.04 though
[17:13] <ChibaPet> daftykins: Nah, this is well covered. You can if you do a hand install with debootstrap in a shell. I'm not interested.
[17:14] <daftykins> ChibaPet: no it's not that involved either
[17:14] <ChibaPet> Nukien: That works. The DKMS hosed me once, which is why I'm focussing on Xenial lately.
[17:14] <daftykins> i think you might want to do more reading :)
[17:14] <Nukien> gotta go change brake pads on wife car - later
[17:14] <ChibaPet> daftykins: Nah, I actually know how it works. But for kicks, what's your recommendation to get MD-RAID and LUKS out of the desktop installer?
[17:14] <daftykins> please bear in mind if you're doing things with xenial, you should be over in #ubuntu+1 until it's released (just checking)
[17:15] <ChibaPet> daftykins: My question about metapackages was more general. Let's pretend that question was for Trusty.
[17:15] <daftykins> no you're missing my point, we don't need to pretend anything - just bear in mind if anything is xenial specific - that's the place to go - call it a friendly reminder.
[17:16] <ChibaPet> Then call this a friendly note of thanks.
[17:16] <daftykins> well i don't do encryption so i can't comment on that - but you definitely can boot desktop, install mdadm, then partition and install to prepared RAID mount points
[17:16] <linocisco> hi all, how can I check my ubuntu version?
[17:16] <ChibaPet> daftykins: Right, or you can use the server installer and have it done cleanly and easily for you. :P
[17:16] <daftykins> linocisco: cat /etc/issue
[17:16] <daftykins> or lsb_release -d
[17:17] <daftykins> ChibaPet: horses for courses, we don't all use hand-holding methods since we might want something different
[17:17] <daftykins> however i'm too sane to put an OS inside the same RAID as i use for storage ;)
[17:17] <dretnx> anyone uses Xara Xtreme?
[17:18] <ChibaPet> daftykins: Ah, the RAID in my case is just for the OS. Storage goes on ZFS.
[17:18] <daftykins> dretnx: never heard of it
[17:19] <dretnx> daftykins:  it is opensourced vector drawing app
[17:19] <dretnx> avaiable for linux:  http://www.xaraxtreme.org/
[17:19] <daftykins> dretnx: so what's the question? trouble installing?
[17:20] <dretnx> no, I just wanted to hear opinion about it, how it compares with inkscape
[17:20] <daftykins> try the website alternativeto.net
[17:20] <ChibaPet> Later, all.
[17:20] <daftykins> no deb packages is a downer for sure
[17:21] <tarvid> BluesKaj, Can't get from F6 nomodeset to boot
[17:22] <KiloJuliet> I love ZFS and Ubuntu and I see that in 16.04 is going to have it officially available. When I was running it on 14.04 it had a bit of instability on one of my machines and ate loads of ram in order to be happy. Is that still going to be the case when we start to roll out 16.04 test machines?
[17:23] <KiloJuliet> I've only had luck with ZFS on SmartOS so far but I'm trying to keep my systems on ubuntu since it supports awesome features like pci-passthrough and its quite a bit more familiar to me
[17:23] <xangua> ! 16.04 | KiloJuliet
[17:23] <daftykins> KiloJuliet: yeah as above, xenial questions in the right channel please :)
[17:24] <KiloJuliet> ok
[17:25] <milan> how can i access phpmyadmin after installing it in ubuntu?
[17:25] <milan> here is what i did: http://goo.gl/b4Wvoe
[17:26] <BluesKaj> tarvid, use the left shift key right after the postpage
[17:26] <daftykins> milan: it should be available at localhost, depends where you're running a browser to test
[17:26] <daftykins> you might need to learn a bit about how apache works to get further :)
[17:27] <milan> daftykins: did you see my link?
[17:27] <milan> daftykins: whats left there?
[17:28] <daftykins> i didn't read it all, no
[17:29] <daftykins> milan: so did you reconfigure phpmyadmin as suggested?
[17:29] <daftykins> to be honest the use of phpmyadmin always points to a new user who should learn things the right way before trying to use such tools of convenience, in my personal opinion.
[17:29] <tarvid> I do that, get the mini logo, space, select F6, select no9modeset, then what?
[17:29] <milan> daftykins: of course
[17:30] <daftykins> milan: right, only you haven't stated what resulted from that
[17:30] <milan> daftykins: sure, let me do it for you
[17:30] <daftykins> well, you're doing it for you ;)
[17:33] <milan> daftykins: it worked just now
[17:33] <daftykins> \o/
[17:33] <milan> daftykins: dont know why too
[17:34] <milan> daftykins: this is damn confusing since i did i am told
[17:34] <daftykins> learning web admin is something that should be done from the ground up really
[17:35] <daftykins> it doesn't help that apache configuration has become much more complex and spread across multiple files, in 14.04 and up
[17:35] <milan> daftykins: yeah, you are right
[17:35] <milan> daftykins: i am just gonna make some database server to make a real website implementation
[17:36] <milan> daftykins: wait, what is the username and password? is there any default username?
[17:36] <milan> daftykins: lol i got it
[17:36] <daftykins> should be your normal user i think, but i don't use it
[17:37] <daftykins> or perhaps it's root + your user's password
[17:37] <milan> daftykins: sorry to bother asking questions ahaha
[17:37] <milan> daftykins: yes it is root
[17:37] <milan> daftykins: are you here often>
[17:38] <daftykins> not as much as i used to be. there are many volunteers to speak to
[17:41] <mljmac> I have fixed the Unity desktop in 14.04, I did download Gnome and now use Gnome Compiz
[17:43] <kllaud> hi
[17:46] <daftykins> hello
[17:51] <raphus> hi
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> hi
[18:02] <sandah> howdy. I was able to install xenial desktop on a n3000 nuc (which requires pretty new kernel drivers) but I can't get the 16.04 server install to detect anything. Is there a trick with the server install, or in this case should I do a custom install using the desktop installer?
[18:02] <daftykins> #ubuntu+1 for xenial please. it's not out yet.
[18:03] <sandah> Will do thanks daftykins
[18:04] <keith__> he
[18:04] <daftykins> llo
[18:08] <AcidRain> hello, ubuntu 14 is missing hte KDE gear icon at login, how can i fix this?
[18:08] <Windows3> Did you try a restart?
[18:08] <AcidRain> yes sir
[18:10] <daftykins> do you mean via the session chooser?
[18:10] <Windows3> try running gnome-control-center in terminal, hope that helps
[18:10] <AcidRain> daftykins, yes
[18:10] <AcidRain> Windows3, no it doesnt
[18:11] <daftykins> so this is Kubuntu - or did you install ubuntu then try adding KDE?
[18:11] <AcidRain> i installed ubuntu, then added KDE
[18:11] <daftykins> ok via what package?
[18:11] <AcidRain> ive done this 100s of times on previous ubuntu installs
[18:11] <AcidRain> er... hang on
[18:11] <daftykins> history | grep install
[18:12] <AcidRain> kubuntu-desktop
[18:12] <AcidRain> turns out there is a plasma-desktop
[18:12] <AcidRain> let me blindly try that as well
[18:13] <daftykins> typically KDE uses a different DM i think - but you could have a read on - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[18:16] <reisio> AcidRain: if you're switching, there's a little more involved to do it cleanly than just installing the -desktop set
[18:16] <reisio> historically, stuff like http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu
[18:16] <AcidRain> and that is?
[18:16] <reisio> AcidRain: too slow! :D
[18:17] <AcidRain> lol
[18:18] <Windows3> I'd google a little more and try just a few more terminal commands, and if software is fixing it, I think it may be a hardware problem
[18:18] <Windows3> isn't*
[18:19] <reisio> Windows3: ?
[18:22] <Windows3> to acidrain
[18:23] <dynamicsamurai> Hi, has anyone else had a problem with the latest update to linux-lowlatency? I'm on 15.10, so the version I have is 4.2.0-30.36, basically Xorg crashes with a segfault during boot. If I boot up with 4.2.0-30 generic, it is fine
[18:23] <dynamicsamurai> I'm running the default radeon driver
[18:23] <dynamicsamurai> (ie not fglrx)
[18:24] <daftykins> dynamicsamurai: there's a security advisory about X being killed by certain kernels of late, if you update again you might get a fixed release
[18:24] <dynamicsamurai> I did a fresh install today
[18:24] <daftykins> so is it updated or not
[18:25] <dynamicsamurai> let me double check software updater
[18:25] <dynamicsamurai> "the software on this computer is up to date"
[18:25] <dynamicsamurai> which makes sense. 4.2.0-30.36 came out yesterday
[18:26] <daftykins> mmm, well if one works over another you could just change your default until it's resolved :)
[18:28] <vahidturke> hi
[18:28] <reisio> ohai
[18:28] <vahidturke> Im irani
[18:28] <vahidturke> kasi inja farsi balade?
[18:32] <dynamicsamurai> daftykins: indeed, that is what I'll do. Its an audio machine though, so slightly frustrating. Looks like an update is in the works thought, 4.2.0-32.37
[18:32] <dynamicsamurai> daftykins: thanks for your help
[18:32] <daftykins> np!
[18:35] <pi_> hi
[18:35] <daftykins> hello
[18:35] <pi_> Hey what is this for a platform?
[18:35] <daftykins> your question isn't very clear, can you rephrase?
[18:36] <daftykins> are you referring to what Ubuntu Linux is, or what this IRC support channel for it is?
[18:36] <pi_> for what is this chat?
[18:36] <daftykins> yeah, read the topic :) the first 4 words sum it up
[18:37] <Guest95725> how can you patch linux kernel
[18:38] <daftykins> give more detail... have you found a patch or do you mean general security updates?
[18:38] <reisio> Guest95725: /nick patchadams
[18:38] <reisio> pi_: /topic
[18:44] <hisforever> I have an Epson wf2540 printer that I downloaded the driver for. How do I get it installed? I'm using zxorin 9
[18:44] <daftykins> hisforever: we don't support zorin here, as it's not ubuntu
[18:45] <daftykins> typically downloading a driver may not necessarily be relevant anyway - you should plug it in (if using via USB) and check the CUPS page.
[18:45] <hisforever> ok thanks sorry
[18:46] <docmur> I made a launcher in gnome which runs Exec: sudo mono /home/user/app.exe.  If I double click it, I get a spinner and nothing happens.  If I go to xterm and do sudo mono /home/user/app.exe, it loads fine, how can I debug the launcher?
[18:49] <Amm0n> docmur, try gksu mono /home/user/app.exe
[18:50] <docmur> gksudo mono /home/user/app.exe, wanted my password but did load
[18:50] <docmur> :)
[18:51] <docmur> Got it! had to switch to gksudo
[18:51] <salamanderrake> how do I get ubuntu to stop using the windows key for anything?
[18:52] <daftykins> salamanderrake: what's wrong?
[18:53] <craigbass76> I can fire up a javaws app as one user, but not another.  The one that can't is the one that can sudo.  Weird.  Any ideas?
[18:53] <daftykins> any other group differences?
[18:53] <daftykins> perms and ownership otherwise, could be worth a check
[18:54] <salamanderrake> daftykins: I use that key for audio on mumble, but when I use it and the mouse I end up moving the window or 'zoom out'
[18:54] <daftykins> ok, sounds like you either need to choose a new push to talk combo (which makes most sense) or install the compiz config tweaker utility and disable any combos, if that's a thing (just a hunch)
[18:57] <batson> halloo
[18:57] <daftykins> hi
[18:57] <batson> am new to ubuntu
[18:58] <daftykins> cool, support questions in here and chat in #ubuntu-offtopic then :)
[18:58] <daftykins> or quit o0
[19:07] <milton_> hey
[19:07] <reisio> heyo
[19:08] <vnull> Hello anyone knows How to Install NGINX / PHP7 / HHVM / Redis on Ubuntu 14 ?
[19:09] <reisio> vnull: sounds like you want Ubuntu 16.04
[19:10] <vnull> reisio lol
[19:10] <daftykins> not lol, sounds good to me
[19:13] <vnull> Seems no one knows :D
[19:14] <reisio> vnull: interesting form of deafness you have there :D
[19:14] <daftykins> vnull: if it's not in the repos, you have to look for PPAs... or, you follow the proper advice which has already been offered :)
[19:14] <daftykins> newest software on older LTS = not gonna happen
[19:14] <wesleyotugo> ubuntu hardy repo are they sttill active ?
[19:14] <daftykins> no way
[19:14] <vnull> daftykins, I've PPA's but configration sucks...
[19:14] <reisio> not gonna happen without a lot more work than using 16, anyway
[19:14] <vnull> I'm new to linux
[19:15] <vnull> so.. something i really don't get
[19:15] <linuxlove> can i use my android phone a a GSM modem on ubuntu?
[19:15] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: you can find them at oldreleases.ubuntu.com though i think the URL is
[19:15] <reisio> vnull: maybe you should take people's advice, then
[19:15] <reisio> linuxlove: probably
[19:15] <MeatHammer> anyone familiar with network namespaces, ie. ip-netns
[19:15] <daftykins> linuxlove: wouldn't data tethering be better? :)
[19:15] <vnull> reisio What that should mean?
[19:15] <daftykins> MeatHammer: ##networking may help, it's unclear what you're after
[19:15] <linuxlove> daftykins, with wireless
[19:15] <linuxlove> ?
[19:16] <daftykins> why wireless?
[19:16] <linuxlove> daftykins, with cable?
[19:16] <wesleyotugo> daftykins: not the iso files but the repos, i heard when a LTS or release is old the repos get deleted ?
[19:16] <wesleyotugo> daftykins: i want to run ubntu hardy in a old laptop
[19:17] <linuxlove> daftykins, is it possible to configure on smstools in ubuntu ?
[19:17] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: running LTS is very, very unwise - just try a supported release of lubuntu, it's more lightweight
[19:17] <daftykins> sorry not LTS, LTS is great! EOL is what i meant
[19:18] <daftykins> linuxlove: what are you trying to achieve? internet access via your mobile phone, or something else?
[19:18] <reisio> vnull: see you've forgotten the advice I gave you already :p
[19:19] <MeatHammer> ty daftykins
[19:20] <MeatHammer> daftykins: im having some difficulty working with network namespaces. documentation for ip-netns is pretty poor, even man pages. I am trying to return the PID of an exisiting namespace with "sudo ip netns pids jail" (jail being the name of an existing namespace). The command returns nothing, no error, just back to prompt. What am I doing wrong?
[19:20] <daftykins> MeatHammer: my advice was to ask over in the channel ##networking
[19:20] <BluesKaj> wesleyotugo, better off running a lightweight latest ubuntu like xfce
[19:20] <BluesKaj> xubuntu
[19:21] <MeatHammer> oh im definately in there and asking but this namespaces thing is like some linux blackhole nobody ever bothered to document.
[19:21] <daftykins> lubuntu is even lighter still, so they tell us :)
[19:22] <daftykins> MeatHammer: what are you actually trying to achieve? conceptually, not with that specific technology.
[19:22] <linuxlove> daftykins, i need to recieve message on my laptop and store them to sql
[19:22] <linuxlove> my sql
[19:22] <MeatHammer> daftykins: I'm interested in the use of namespaces over virtualization tech, so trying out network namespaces as a way to sandbox apps and scripts under linux. Yes, I know about iptables.
[19:23] <daftykins> linuxlove: really? why
[19:24] <daftykins> MeatHammer: sandboxing to me seems more like containerisation, not virt
[19:25] <linuxlove> daftykins, i am using my ubuntu as a server now and i configured apache and website on this system customers on my website need to send me message to verify a code for put their case for sale
[19:25] <wesleyotugo> daftykins: my problem is graphic drivers, i use ATI x700 which fall under kernel 2.6 or thereabout. When i use lubuntu the graphic is patchy
[19:26] <daftykins> linuxlove: i don't think connecting a phone directly is the way people achieve that - i would imagine there are services to provide it
[19:26] <niao> I still didnt upgrade my 15.04 ubuntu , i am noticing some bugs and some programs ceased to work !!
[19:26] <wesleyotugo> BluesKaj: my problem is not variation but a graphic driver that is only available for ubuntu hardy
[19:26] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: it should be using the radeon driver only - so open source, what did you try? 12.04 or 14.04 lubuntu would be worth a go.
[19:26] <linuxlove> daftykins, as i am in begin of my website i need to test my method
[19:27] <linuxlove> daftykins, i cant cost much at moment
[19:27] <daftykins> linuxlove: good luck then - but i think that's a mistake.
[19:27] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: don't try and install fglrx on such an old card, that'd be a waste of time
[19:27] <linuxlove> daftykins, do you know about costs that providers offer for this?
[19:28] <Jordan_U> niao: That's yet another reason to upgrade. You should upgrade. Using EOL releases is asking for trouble.
[19:29] <BluesKaj> wesleyotugo, which gpu ?
[19:29] <niao> Jordan_U ; please give me the command to run the upgrade from terminal !
[19:29] <wesleyotugo> daftykins: not a recent fglr but a old version that works on ubuntu hardy, when i install fglr on hardy i want to know whether apps will work when downloaded and things like that ?
[19:29] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: no, as i've said using an old EOL release is not the answer - they are all insecure now
[19:29] <wesleyotugo> BluesKaj: ATI x700
[19:29] <niao> Jordan_U  ; I still receive updates though !
[19:30] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: so if you have not tried lubuntu 12.04 or 14.04 - please do.
[19:30] <daftykins> also it's not fruitful to ask two of us in parallel ;)
[19:30] <wesleyotugo> daftykins: i have tried all variations of ubuntu both at 12.04 level and 14.04 level but the opengl is still patchy
[19:31] <daftykins> linuxlove: no, you will need to do some research on this
[19:31] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: ok, but you need one of these installed for us to help - using an EOL version is not supported and we will not help with that - it's not the answer.
[19:31] <Jordan_U> niao: I believe that "sudo do-release-upgrade" will do it.
[19:31] <daftykins> much the same as any sane person would not install windows 98 for someone with an old computer ;)
[19:32] <BluesKaj> wesleyotugo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver , hardy is NOT your only choice
[19:32] <Jordan_U> wesleyotugo: I recommend installing Ubuntu 14.04 and coming back as it will be supported much longer than 12.04.
[19:32] <wesleyotugo> daftykins: well i know, was just curious. okay is there any way fglrx or and river open or closed source could work on my card ? and defintely not Gallium
[19:33] <niao> Jordan_U ; are you sure ? I dont want to mess my installation in this old desktop am using !
[19:33] <wesleyotugo> BluesKaj: it doesnt aid my orib but thanks
[19:34] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: i've already said about 3 times that the open radeon driver is your only option, so if you install a supported release and fully update it... maybe we can help from there
[19:34] <wesleyotugo> Jordan_U: supported ubuntu or does 14.04 support kernel 2.6.x
[19:34] <daftykins> either 12.04.5 or 14.04.3 (or newer)
[19:34] <daftykins> you do not install 2.6.x kernels on supported releases
[19:34] <daftykins> i'm trying to helpfully suggest you stop thinking down those lines :)
[19:35] <niao> Jordan_U ; do i need to stop browsing while upgrading ?
[19:35] <BluesKaj> daftykins, you can lead a horse to water..........  ;/
[19:35] <daftykins> BluesKaj: :D
[19:35] <Jordan_U> niao: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WilyUpgrades
[19:35] <wesleyotugo> daftykins: i have a fully updated ubuntu mate 15.10 partition and ubuntu gnome 14.04 if that is okay ?
[19:35] <daftykins> BluesKaj: methinks the glue factory would be best now
[19:35] <BluesKaj> daftykins, yeah , seems so ;-)
[19:35] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: no, neither release is appropriate for that age system
[19:36] <Ben64> what? 14.04 is fine
[19:36] <daftykins> Ben64: not gnome on an unsupported card
[19:36] <Ben64> the radeon driver supports the x700
[19:36] <santa> Hi
[19:37] <daftykins> Ben64: right, but not well with a graphical DE is the impression i'm getting from this user
[19:37] <wesleyotugo> daftykins: i know, most apps wont work due to the fact they rely on recent kernel.. but it is possible if i downgrade all app to the 2.6.x supported version but meh
[19:37] <Guest13246> Do your speek russioa
[19:37] <Guest13246> &
[19:37] <Guest13246> ?
[19:37] <Ben64> wesleyotugo: no. that is not a solution
[19:37] <wesleyotugo> Ben64: what driver is that
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[19:37] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: no that is not a solution - please stop repeating what i've already said is a no-go.
[19:37] <Ben64> wesleyotugo: its called "radeon"
[19:37] <daftykins> quite honestly that system sounds like it should be retired, or if it's a desktop, just swap out the card and be done with it
[19:38] <daftykins> *or* just get it working with lubuntu 14.04 as has been suggested 6+ times now :)
[19:38] <Jordan_U> niao: You might run into issues once your browser itself gets upgraded. Also note that there are no guarantees with upgrades (but that does *not* mean you should just stick with an insecure OS forever).
[19:38] <amazoniantoad> What is Unity Next?
[19:38] <wesleyotugo> daftykins: I am complaining about being able to use 3D apps like sweet home 3D that looks patchy and scrabby
[19:39] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: yeah so that's not going to happen on either release you have installed right now - so Lubuntu 14.04.3 or change the card.
[19:39] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: i'm going to stop replying now until this action has been taken
[19:39] <helpmemount> hey I'm trying to mount an unraid smb, but it's failing. I'm adding the following line to fstab: //192.168.2.27/myfiles /media/myfiles cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8  0  0
[19:39] <niao> Jordan_U ; I see, thanks !!
[19:40] <helpmemount> But I get mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.2.27/myfiles,        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[19:40] <Jordan_U> niao: You're welcome.
[19:40] <daftykins> helpmemount: mixing uid and just "guest" doesn't sound right at all.
[19:40] <Ben64> helpmemount: "guest" isn't an option i'm fairly sure
[19:41] <wesleyotugo> daftykins: its my father old laptop it runs windows 8.1 with Oblivion games at 30fps, it does pack a really lean muscle. I am a 3D artist and i want to use it for basic 3D modelling
[19:41] <helpmemount> Hi Ben, that part was taken straight from the wiki here
[19:41] <helpmemount> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[19:41] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: then Linux isn't the answer on that system
[19:41] <helpmemount> As I couldn't find one for SMB shares
[19:41] <Ben64> well its wrong
[19:42] <helpmemount> what should I put in place please?
[19:42] <daftykins> username=guest maybe, but not just 'guest'
[19:42] <daftykins> or configure an actual user
[19:42] <Ben64> try mounting it manually before putting it in fstab
[19:42] <helpmemount> good shout
[19:42] <charlie__2> hello guys, is there any distro that would fit on a CD?
[19:42] <helpmemount> let me try mounting it manually first
[19:42] <charlie__2> from the Ubuntu family
[19:42] <Ben64> or maybe you don't have cifs installed
[19:43] <Team24North> hi guys
[19:43] <daftykins> lubuntu still fits on large CD-Rs with overburn, but really you should just give up if USB is an option
[19:43] <daftykins> if you don't have a USB flash drive, get one
[19:43] <charlie__2> I can't boot from USB
[19:43] <helpmemount> I haven't installed cifs
[19:43] <helpmemount> that part I didn't understand
[19:43] <daftykins> charlie__2: due to BIOS support? look into plop to chainload USB from CD-R
[19:43] <helpmemount> would an apt-get install cifs do the trick?
[19:43] <wesleyotugo> daftykins: Does lubuntu fix kernel problem. Lubuntu fixes basic memory usage problem and it is not even more memory efficient like ubuntu mate. i had lubuntu 14.04 installed it, at first it was smooth then it got patchy and scrabby
[19:43] <Ben64> read the wiki you posted helpmemount
[19:43] <daftykins> helpmemount: no, you're just making up packages
[19:44] <helpmemount> I will reread
[19:44] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: 'patchy and scrabby' are not technical terms for me to understand what you're talking about.
[19:44] <mcphail> charlie__2: does https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD help?
[19:44] <charlie__2> daftykins: I have a spare SATA dvd reader that could come in handy with an USB adapter. I'll try that way. Otherwise is plop really the only solution? No distro fit on a CD anymore?
[19:44] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: i really don't think Linux is right for this system, perhaps give us the full make and model or a link to it.
[19:45] <charlie__2> mcphail: I guess it's what I'm after! Is there a MinimalCD for Lubuntu?
[19:45] <daftykins> charlie__2: or you can install from the mini.iso if this system has working wired networking out of the box
[19:45] <Ben64> note - minimal cd isn't a live cd
[19:45] <helpmemount> Not trying to be difficult @Ben64, but what part? It has the guest option that I mentioned, you told me it was wrong  a minute ago
[19:45] <mcphail> charlie__2: not sure. You might be able to select lubuntu-desktop from that installer. I have never used it
[19:45] <Ben64> helpmemount: the part where it tells you what to install to make it work
[19:45] <helpmemount> oh for the cifs install
[19:45] <helpmemount> Sorry
[19:46] <charlie__2> is the mini.iso an official installation method?
[19:46] <Ben64> yep
[19:46] <charlie__2> nice, I'm looking for it
[19:47] <charlie__2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall this must be the page :)
[19:47] <helpmemount> So after install cifs tools, that's working exactly as I had it. Thank you for your help Ben64
[19:48] <Ben64> helpmemount: cool
[19:49] <charlie__2> Lubuntu Alternate fits on a CD, but I'm curious about that mini.iso :)
[19:49] <wesleyotugo> daftkins: http://imgur.com/qrGNanc That a screenshot of my problem
[19:49] <charlie__2> thanks guys
[19:52] <mcphail> charlie__2: if you're likely to be doing a few installs, the alternate CD would be better than the mini iso, as you wouldn't have to keep pulling all the files from the server. But for a single install, the mini iso would be fine, I'm sure
[19:52] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: in my opinion that computer is a bad fit for the software you want to use.
[19:53] <ahmet_> hey
[19:53] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: as i said, and please pay attention this time - either run a supported release and we can investigate further... or replace the card. i will not reply again.
[19:53] <charlie__2> mcphail: thank you very much :) I'm going to do only one install and the full alternate iso will do. I hope it will support this VERY old hardware
[19:53] <reisio> ahmet_: heyo
[19:54] <ahmet_> do you speak Turksh
[19:54] <daftykins> mcphail: alternate hasn't existed for a long time
[19:55] <Jordan_U> wesleyotugo: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg" and the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log after seeing such corrupted images.
[19:55] <hep7> hello
[19:55] <daftykins> Jordan_U: not much point since the wrong releases for such hardware are being used :)
[19:56] <charlie__2> is this the right place to ask about Lubuntu?
[19:56] <daftykins> i mean, knock yourself out... but i think it's giving false hope and wasting time
[19:56] <Jordan_U> daftykins: I thought that screenshot was from a supported release.
[19:56] <daftykins> supported, but not appropriate for old hardware
[19:56] <hep7> my ubuntu mate doesn't boot properly i believe this happened after update?
[19:57] <hep7> dual boot with win10
[19:57] <Jordan_U> charlie__2: Here and #lubuntu are both fine. #lubuntu might have more people familiar with LXDE.
[19:57] <charlie__2> Jordan_U: thanks :) I'm wondering whether old serial ports are supported by current Lubuntu
[19:58] <ahmet_> hep7_ how
[19:58] <hep7> it eather boots to terminal or doesn't boot at all sometimes, (have to reboot few times)
[19:58] <hep7> either*
[19:58] <mcphail> daftykins: there's alternate cd's listed for lubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO
[19:59] <ahmet_> ı win 7 with ubuntu making
[19:59] <hep7> ?
[19:59] <Jordan_U> charlie__2: I would expect serial ports to work. What are you planning to use them for/with?
[19:59] <ahmet_> English dont good
[19:59] <charlie__2> Jordan_U to revive an old but still working printer
[19:59] <daftykins> mcphail: ah community only and lubuntu only, news to me - very niche though.
[20:00] <mcphail> daftykins: yes - I thought alternate had died as well
[20:00] <hep7> ahmet_ it is ok, you don't have to answer, thanks.
[20:00] <charlie__2> Jordan_U: it's paired with this OLD computer
[20:00] <Jordan_U> charlie__2: It's worth a try. You can test it from a LiveCD/USB before installing if you want.
[20:01] <charlie__2> I'm not even sure how they're going to find cartridges
[20:01] <charlie__2> Jordan_U: that's my roadmap :P
[20:01] <daftykins> mcphail: i think it still has, maybe that's just some old community attempts
[20:02] <ahmet_> hep7_:ı can tell you
[20:07] <Jordan_U> wesleyotugo: Assuming that screenshot was from a supported release of Ubuntu, preferably Ubuntu 14.04 or 15.10, Please pastebin the output of "dmesg" and the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log after seeing such corrupted images.
[20:08] <Luke> hi
[20:08] <Guest77091> hello?
[20:09] <SumTingWong> is this working?
[20:09] <reisio> sure
[20:09] <reisio> hi
[20:09] <reisio> hi
[20:09] <Guest77091> hello SumTingWong!
[20:09] <SumTingWong> Hello :)
[20:10] <SumTingWong> Anybody know how to host your own IRC server?
[20:10] <SumTingWong> I could ofc google it...
[20:10]  * reisio headdesks
[20:10] <SumTingWong> wut? O.o
[20:11] <daftykins> research before coming here for non-OS support questions, tends to be good
[20:11] <SumTingWong> So I cant be here if im using openbox?
[20:12] <daftykins> openbox is a DE/WM last i checked
[20:12] <reisio> SumTingWong: is that question related to the preceding?
[20:13] <SumTingWong> nope
[20:16] <reisio> not quite appropriate use of 'So ', then? :p
[20:17] <meurth> Hello, my keyboard has a third, Fn option for some keys, and I want to assign pi as one of these, but where are these in the keymap for English (US):  /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us
[20:18] <wesleyotugo> daftykins: thats was a recent linux mint new install after i had tried all ubuntu variation. i have ran a supported release of lubuntu 14.04, 15.04,15.10 and the problem persist. what should i do , this same program works fine in windows ?
[20:18] <reisio> meurth: these what?
[20:18] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: so now you tell us Mint - we don't support Mint here.
[20:18] <daftykins> !mint
[20:18] <meurth> reisio, as a third option for a key accessed by holding the Fn key.
[20:19] <daftykins> wesleyotugo: i've already said to install lubuntu 14.04 and come back so i will not be able to assist you until this is done.
[20:19] <reisio> meurth: that might be hardcoded in your hardware's circuitry
[20:19] <Jordan_U> wesleyotugo: I'm still waiting for information I've requested twice now. Are you having trouble getting it?
[20:19] <reisio> meurth: if 'xev' doesn't recognize it, for example, you will probably have to act on what Fn+other_key says, instead of Fn directly
[20:20] <Ricardus> I just had something happen that I dont think ever happened before
[20:20] <Ricardus> I currently have my laptop set to require your password to login after it comes out of screensaver mode
[20:21] <daftykins> ok...?
[20:21] <Ricardus> I must have intended to log in earlier, before I left the house, and typed in the password
[20:21] <Ricardus> and when I got back a few hours later the password was still there, and hitting enter allowed me in
[20:22] <meurth> reisio, reisio,I think you're right.  All the Fn outputs are redundant.
[20:22] <Jordan_U> Ricardus: Please type out your whole question in one line and post it when you're done.
[20:22] <Ricardus> Why not set it up so if youve typed your password, and you dont log in, that the next time it comes out of screensaver mode, the password is cleared?
[20:23] <daftykins> i'm pretty sure there's a timeout where it blanks again
[20:23] <daftykins> Ricardus: if you walked away from your computer having typed in the password but not hit enter, i think you're asking for surprises
[20:23] <Ricardus> daftykins, it didnt for me.
[20:23] <reisio> that's an okay suggestion, but
[20:23] <reisio> it's quite impossible to prevent silly users from making their own lives hard
[20:24] <reisio> and the more complicated you make xscreensaver, the greater the chance it can be exploited
[20:24] <daftykins> Ricardus: maybe don't type your password in and walk away then :)
[20:24] <Ricardus> daftykins, maybe, but why WOULDNT the password be cleared the next time it came out of screensaver mode. Just seems like an obvious and easy security fix
[20:24] <reisio> s/xscreensaver/locker of your choice here/
[20:24] <wesleyotugo> jaordan_U: Pardon me, it was not intentional. Here is the output of dmesg http://pastebin.com/5JD72gNz
[20:24] <daftykins> i agree it's not ideal, but i also think it's an irresponsible action
[20:24] <reisio> second guessing the end user is really annoying
[20:24] <wesleyotugo>  jordan_U: Pardon me, it was not intentional. Here is the output of dmesg http://pastebin.com/5JD72gNz
[20:24] <daftykins> Ricardus: i came home and i put my keys in the door, then i walked away to the coffee shop - how dare my house not push the keys out and into my pocket?!
[20:25] <reisio> as a pref it'd be fine, but it'd necessarily complicate the software
[20:25] <daftykins> same stuff to my mind :)
[20:25] <Ricardus> daftykins, this is the first time ive ever done it. But I cant be the first and only person to ever do it.
[20:25] <Ricardus> Do you guys read Schneier on security? I mean seriously. He would describe that as BRITTLE
[20:26] <zh1> wanna install flash on ubuntu gnome, what command does it on terminal?
[20:26] <daftykins> i can't type here how i'd describe that
[20:26] <Ricardus> People are going to be people. We're human. We occasionally make mistakes. This is an easy (and as I said before) obvious flaw that should be corrected.
[20:26] <Ricardus> Ive been running Ubuntu for years, and this is the first time I've ever commented in here.
[20:27] <daftykins> you might want to pursue finding/creating a bug if you care about this one
[20:27] <Jordan_U> Ricardus: The code is available if you want to provide a patch implementing this or you could pay someone else to write said patch. You can also file a bug report/feature request but I don't expect that anyone else will want to add that feature in their spare time (I may be wrong though).
[20:27] <daftykins> but you have to accept the edge case nature of what you've presented
[20:27] <Ricardus> And if I knew a good suggestion was going to met with silly wisecracks I wouldnt have bothered.
[20:28] <Ricardus> I dont think anyone in the security business would call this an "edge case"
[20:28] <Ricardus> its a flaw
[20:28] <Kang0> Hi all
[20:28] <Ricardus> anyway. Good day to you all
[20:28] <Jordan_U> Ricardus: Then file a bug report please.
[20:28] <daftykins> i would like to point out that you pursue the correct bug processes rather than complaining about it with no productivity, Ricardus
[20:28] <Kang0> Need help to configure ssh server and client on same phone
[20:29] <daftykins> Kang0: what kind of phone? this channel is for ubuntu support
[20:29] <Kang0> android
[20:29] <daftykins> Kang0: so unless you're connecting to an ubuntu host, this channel isn't relevant to that
[20:30] <Kang0> Ok
[20:30] <Kang0> I thought people may use android phone on thus channel
[20:32] <Jordan_U> wesleyotugo: What version of Ubuntu is that from? (If not 14.04 or 15.10 then I don't care to see it). That's also not the complete output. I'm also still waiting for the Xorg.0.log I requested (again though, if not from X/Lubuntu 14.04/15.10 I don't care).
[20:33] <Jordan_U> Kang0: This is #ubuntu, not #android. We only support Ubuntu here.
[21:02] <menace> is there for standard ubuntu 16.04 a beta for download? i only see the offsprings like xubuntu or lubuntu
[21:02] <jushur> menace: look under daily-builds
[21:05] <creep> hi peps, where is the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu mate? because I could install ubuntu and after that i could install the mate surface? so where is the effort of ubuntu mate ?
[21:08] <jushur> creep: the difference is the ubuntu default has unity, and ubuntu mate has mate as a default. and the major difference is the mate edition does not have unity installed by default?
[21:10] <zh1> creep, MATE (software), a fork of GNOME 2 Desktop Environment (computer software)
[21:14] <Kang0> I m on terminal now does it fall under ubuntu discussion
[21:14] <reisio> did it not before?
[21:14] <Gallomimia> !ot| Kang0
[21:18] <Revian1> Kang0: You're asking for help to configure ssh server and client on an Android phone. Regardless of the app you use, your request is off-topic.
[21:23] <Kang0> That request is closed Revian1
[21:24] <Kang0> Now after connection is established i would like some suggestion for commands on terminal as i m noob
[21:25] <flexoboto> Kang0: ls for example
[21:25] <flexoboto> id
[21:26] <mcphail> Kang0: "ls" is a good one. "cp" is excellent. Or perhaps you have a specific Ubuntu support question? You can look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal for inspiration
[21:26] <Kang0> Thanks mcphail flexoboto i want to copy and paste files
[21:27] <Revian1> Kang0: Running a terminal on an Android phone does not bring your issue into the realm of Ubuntu support.
[21:27] <k1l> !shell | Kang0
[21:29] <Nino_> Some gif creator for ubuntu 12.04?please
[21:29] <Revian1> k1l: I believe the !shell trigger for ubottu needs to be update for the Unity environment when someone has a chance.
[21:30] <Kang0> Thanks for clarifying Revian1
[21:30] <flexoboto> !shell
[21:30] <flexoboto> nice :D
[21:31] <SchrodingersScat> !info ffmpeg | Nino_
[21:32] <flexoboto> Kang0: why you want to use a shell for copy your files on your smartphone ?!?!
[21:33] <Kang0> Just learning flexoboto
[21:45] <VictorCL> B00M
[21:53] <jamie2> or well better said, how do i revert from make 4.0 to make 3.82
[21:54] <squinty_> well isn't this special?
[21:54] <jamie2> getting flooded
[21:54] <dax> !netsplit
[21:54] <bryan2_> Hey guys, I just installed the 16.04 daily. It went well, however I can't seem to boot into my windows installation(on another HD) anymore. It doesn't show up in the grub list like it used to. Here is my boot info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15221497/
[21:54] <jamie2> I cant seem to find it on duckduckgo...
[21:54] <bekks> jamie2: So use a real search engine :)
[21:54] <jamie2> bekks: duckduckgo is a real search engine, i also checked google who cant find it either
[22:03] <jamie2> i have googled it 20 different ways and still cant find how to revert from make 4.0 to make 3.82 or 3.81
[22:09] <faissal> test
[22:10] <Bray90820_> test
[22:12] <geirha> jamie2: what does this output?  apt-cache policy make
[22:13] <jamie2> geirha: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8861556
[22:13] <JackDawson> hi all!
[22:13] <Bray90820__> test
[22:14] <geirha> !ubuntu+1 | bryan2_
[22:14] <JackDawson> Does anyone can help with a DNS problem?
[22:14] <Bray90820__> Is my test going through
[22:14] <jamie2> Bray90820__: yes
[22:14] <loveheartjoylove> I probably can
[22:14] <loveheartjoylove> what's the problem?
[22:15] <Bray90820__> That's odd because I can't send to any other chnnel
[22:15] <jamie2> Bray90820__: i was having issues earlier even connecting to freenode
[22:15] <Revian1> Freenode is experiencing issues atm
[22:15] <Bray90820__> jamie2: I can't identify with the servers
[22:15] <geirha> jamie2: Ok, so that's the version in wily. There's no supported way of downgrading a package
[22:16] <Jklk32> Hi everyone! Does anyone can help me with a DNS problem?
[22:17] <scaldwel_> Sorry about that Bekks,  I meant TOR not TORRENT.  Damned autocorrect!!!!!
[22:19] <jamie2> geirha: so you are saying i cant build android on willy at all?
[22:21] <stacks88> so in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades  i set Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot "true"; and Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot-Time "06:00"; -- but now while logged in i keep seeing stuff like The system is going down for reboot in 1260 minutes! and The system is going down for reboot in 1200 minutes!  its like every hour, The system is going down for reboot in 900 minutes! ..
[22:21] <stacks88> how can i disable these broadcast messages ?
[22:22] <deadmund> Is there anyway that I can get a log / error messages from when I log into KDE?  My system hangs for like 15 - 20 seconds when I log in after the KDE progress bar is full.  it didn't used to do this before I upgraded
[22:41] <jamie2> geirha: are those the proper ones for linux and for ubuntu?
[22:43] <Gallomimia> deadmund: the answer is yes but the bot isn't happy either
[22:43] <jamie2> geirha: found it http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/make/download
[22:45] <thezugswang> hi folks, just installed fresh version of ubuntu 15.10 (previously on mint 17.1) and I'm getting a black screen on boot (not even reaching disk encryption password). I can log in via recovery mode, and I've tried 2 different nvidia drivers, but same result both times
[22:47] <Jordan_U_> thezugswang: Do you have this problem when using nouveau?
[22:48] <thezugswang> Jordan_U_, It was originally on that, but I was getting weird font issues (like missing characters)
[22:48] <geirha> jamie2: Those are the vanilla sources of GNU make
[22:48] <thezugswang> Jordan_U, I will try it again now...
[22:48] <Jordan_U> thezugswang: Missing characters within X or at a text tty?
[22:49] <jamie2> geirha: i used that link i threw up and did dpkg --force-all -i '/home/jamie/Downloads/make_3.81-8.2ubuntu3_amd64.deb'
[22:51] <thezugswang> Jordan_U, I can log in fine using Neuveau, but the fonts are messed up. I think that I need the propietray drivers anyway, since I play games on this PC
[22:51] <thezugswang> Jordan_U, looks like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/584922/how-do-i-fix-fonts-not-rendering-and-missing-letters
[22:52] <geirha> jamie2: That may break a lot
[22:52] <geirha> (which is why it's unsupported)
[22:53] <jamie2> geirha: if it does i redo make
[22:57] <myessail> I just installed 15.10 on my macbook, and it is running very hot. I've been through all the suggestions on google with no luck (and most of them are pretty old too). is there anything else I can try?
[23:00] <benfitzpatrick> hi everyone well im a virgin noob to linux and ubuntu and computers period and i have no idea how to install a OS or anything period on a pc. So i felt i come in this chat and see if someone can help me install Ubuntu on my laptop?
[23:01] <benfitzpatrick> see, i had someone install my windows OS and i havent even heard of linux period
[23:02] <rypervenche> benfitzpatrick: That is a lie. I have helped you install Gentoo on your machine multiple times and you keep distro hopping. Stop asking people to walk you through Linux installations.
[23:03] <Jordan_U> thezugswang: I would be very surprised if that font problem is related to graphics drivers.
[23:03] <benfitzpatrick> rypervenche: ryper, if you seriously think i will ever do linux on my own, your only lying to yourself man
[23:04] <benfitzpatrick> that is a false hope that will never become reality
[23:04] <k1l> benfitzpatrick: rypervenche no need for personal attacks in here. benfitzpatrick we dont support handholding, we try to get you to learn to manage your OS yourself. so what is the real issue?
[23:05] <squarecircle> ohai, having trouble with pairing my bluetooth devices under debian and gnome. are there related problems under ubuntu?
[23:05] <benfitzpatrick> well im sorry kil, that IS the real issue
[23:05] <squarecircle> I would eventually change back to ubuntu, if its supporting my Hardware better ;)
[23:05] <benfitzpatrick> i have issues running it alone
[23:06] <benfitzpatrick> i really have no way to
[23:06] <k1l> squarecircle: depends. at least "it works for me" :)  you can try a live usb and test it
[23:07] <squarecircle> k1l: I fear that it might work
[23:07] <squarecircle> k1l: I just spend the time to configure my freshly installed system :D
[23:07] <k1l> squarecircle: your choice :)
[23:07] <rypervenche> k1l: I just wanted people to be aware that that was a straight-up lie and he just admitted it. Feel free to help him if you wish.
[23:08] <benfitzpatrick> rypervenche: its NOT a lie ryper, you know i dont know Linux. if you think i do, your seriously wrong man
[23:08] <rypervenche> I'll leave this alone now. Not the place for this conversation.
[23:09] <squarecircle> rypervenche: want to help medebugging my buggy bluetooth?
[23:09] <benfitzpatrick> -sighs-
[23:09] <squarecircle> ;)
[23:09] <k1l> benfitzpatrick: start a live usb with ubuntu on it and start the installer. i am sure you will manage to install it.
[23:09] <k1l> rypervenche: thanks
[23:09] <benfitzpatrick> kil i did already try to boot a CD or usb of ubuntu i didnt
[23:09] <benfitzpatrick> i was flat out lost
[23:09] <k1l> benfitzpatrick: where exactly?
[23:10] <benfitzpatrick> kil i loaded it up and was freaked out and shut off the machine and was about ready to throw the PC out the window
[23:10] <rypervenche> squarecircle: First thing first we would need to see what wireless card you are using. lspci -nn | grep Network
[23:10] <k1l> benfitzpatrick: you keep saying: "i couldnt run the car, i couldnt run the car" but you are not saying what exactly didnt work.
[23:11] <benfitzpatrick> i mean i didnt know how to navigate the OS i didnt know where anything was, it was like learning asian
[23:11] <benfitzpatrick> it was like i was in japan
[23:11] <benfitzpatrick> and couldnt do anything
[23:12] <k1l> benfitzpatrick: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop
[23:12] <benfitzpatrick> i was sitting there with a blank face and a dead stare
[23:12] <k1l> work with that.
[23:12] <benfitzpatrick> well i did look at that and got the same reaction
[23:12] <benfitzpatrick> it freaked me out
[23:12] <k1l> benfitzpatrick: stop trolling.
[23:13] <benfitzpatrick> well, im being 100 percent truthful to you
[23:13] <tgm4883> benfitzpatrick: why are you trying to install ubuntu?
[23:13] <benfitzpatrick> because windows is not the OS i want and, it breaks all the time
[23:13] <tgm4883> benfitzpatrick: With the questions you are asking, Ubuntu isn't for you
[23:14] <k1l> benfitzpatrick: use the howto i just linked you. that works 100%. just follow the steps
[23:14] <benfitzpatrick> well the problem being kil, my parents demanded i use linux and i get someone to help me
[23:14] <tgm4883> benfitzpatrick: a couple things
[23:15] <tgm4883> benfitzpatrick: 1) his name is k1l. The number 1, not the letter i
[23:15] <benfitzpatrick> oh
[23:15] <tgm4883> benfitzpatrick: 2) I doubt your parents said that, but it is comical that you tried to claim that
[23:15] <benfitzpatrick> well they really have
[23:15] <squarecircle> rypervenche: Product: Broadcom Bluetooth Device
[23:15] <benfitzpatrick> they're watching me over my shoulder as i talk to you
[23:16] <rypervenche> squarecircle: We will need the exact output of that command. Can you pastebin it? Also, what sort of problems are you having with pairing?
[23:16] <tgm4883> benfitzpatrick: no they didn't and no they aren't. First, they would have to know what linux is, which in all likelyhood they don't. Even if they do, they wouldn't "demand that you use it and ask someone else for help"
[23:17] <benfitzpatrick> well my dad just for real said it
[23:17] <tgm4883> benfitzpatrick: tell him to piss off
[23:17] <squarecircle> rypervenche: I click on "connect" the gui seems to click, but in sthe second the lcick animation is done it swichtes back
[23:17] <benfitzpatrick> well he said if they cuss at you, we will ground you and take away your laptop
[23:17] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: That's not helpful, please stay civil.
[23:18] <Jordan_U> benfitzpatrick: It's clear that you're not interested in actually getting support. Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your mute.
[23:18] <tgm4883> Jordan_U: you're probably right, I shouldn't feed the trolls
[23:20] <Estheliel-> That kind of trolling was very weak. He could've done better.
[23:20] <CoolRabbit> hello all
[23:21] <CoolRabbit> just got back from reinstalling 14.04 on a old (to Apple - 2008) mac ... would like to know any known issues with unity-tweaks ?
[23:21] <squarecircle> rypervenche: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15222984/
[23:22] <squarecircle> rypervenche: and this is my lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15222993/
[23:23] <rypervenche> squarecircle: Hmmm, yeah I don't think I'll be much help. I don't have too much experience with Bluetooth, especially on Ubuntu. But that is some of the information that someone else will need to be able to help you.
[23:24] <squarecircle> rypervenche: anyway, a lot of thanks :)
[23:47] <ubuntu725> Im having a issue booting ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64. I'm running from a dell E521 with windows 7 amd Athlon 64 X2 dual core. I hit f12 then choose USB.zip and i go directly to a black screen with flashing cursor?
[23:48] <k1l> ubuntu725: usb.zip?
[23:48] <k1l> ubuntu725: how did you make that ubuntu usb?
[23:55] <Gallomimia> sounds like your usb wasn't flashed properly
[23:55] <webigor> hello
[23:55] <webigor> is it official channel?
[23:55] <Gallomimia> ubuntu725: still there?
[23:56] <webigor> me?
[23:56] <webigor> I just entered
[23:56] <reisio> webigor: yes
[23:56] <webigor> Thanks
[23:57] <rem505> hello I'm trying out the live dvd for 14.04.4 LTS and while it starts to boot it get stuck on a brown screen with a (picture of something = happy star person) @ the bottom
[23:58] <webigor> Did you choosen correct architecture?