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| lordievader | Good morning | 08:58 |
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| clivejo | anyone know more about this KActivities repository split? | 12:16 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 12:26 |
| clivejo | hi BluesKaj | 12:26 |
| BluesKaj | hi clivejo | 12:26 |
| clivejo | how are you today? | 12:27 |
| BluesKaj | good thanks, clivejo, and you? | 12:27 |
| clivejo | cold and confused | 12:28 |
| BluesKaj | clivejo, bummer :/ take a well deserved break perhaps? | 12:36 |
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| snele | clivejo: about kactivities split i think you should ask ivan | home in #plasma | 15:35 |
| snele | i think he did it | 15:36 |
| snele | and they talked about that yesterday in #plasma | 15:36 |
| clivejo | snele: seems Neon has already done it | 15:36 |
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| clivejo | yofel_: ping | 19:21 |
| clivejo | hi DarinMiller | 21:49 |
| DarinMiller | Hi clivejo | 21:49 |
| clivejo | how are you today? | 21:50 |
| DarinMiller | Very good. Gorgeous early spring day here. And you? | 21:50 |
| clivejo | been a nice day here too, but temp is dropping below freezing at the moment | 21:51 |
| DarinMiller | clivejo how did you learned to package? I am finding that the packaging rabbit hole is way deeper than anticipated. | 22:00 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: just by doing it | 22:01 |
| clivejo | Riddell spun up a VPS and walked me through it# | 22:02 |
| DarinMiller | I have enabled all accounts, read the debian packaging guildelines, read the ubuntu sponship guidleline and am currently reading through the bzr web help. I still feel I am a long ways from being able to assemble the simplest package. | 22:03 |
| valorie | DarinMiller: if you decide to take the pill and jump into the hole | 22:04 |
| valorie | please fix our docs as you go! | 22:04 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: where have you got to? | 22:06 |
| DarinMiller | I would be very happy to fix/update the docs once I understand. But I am nearly useless with my current level of comprehension. | 22:06 |
| clivejo | do you understand how we combine the source code and the packaging to build a package? | 22:07 |
| DarinMiller | No. I am not sure how bzr and pbuild interact. And when/where/how to apply the correct ppa to the pbuild enviro. Not sure if bzr is PPA dependent. I don't have clue how to create a source/build(?) file and if symbols are messed up, I have no idea where to even look. | 22:11 |
| clivejo | bzr is a VCS | 22:12 |
| DarinMiller | I feel so green that I hate bothering the people here until I can ask more intelligent questions, but I am floundering on my own trying to figure it out. | 22:12 |
| clivejo | DarinMiller: dont be silly! We all started there! | 22:12 |
| clivejo | do you know how to get a package source? | 22:13 |
| DarinMiller | using apt-get source, yes. (I finally enabled the source repositories just this weekend). I tried using bzr to grab a dolphin branch (bzr branch ubuntu:dolphin) but that failed. | 22:15 |
| clivejo | if you look in the control file it will tell you where we keep the packaging | 22:16 |
| DarinMiller | where do I find this elusive control file? :) | 22:17 |
| clivejo | so run "sudo apt-get source dolphin" | 22:18 |
| clivejo | you should get a message like this | 22:18 |
| clivejo | NOTICE: 'dolphin' packaging is maintained in the 'Git' version control system at: | 22:18 |
| clivejo | git://anonscm.debian.org/pkg-kde/kde-applications/dolphin.git | 22:18 |
| clivejo | which is a git archive | 22:20 |
| clivejo | the web interface is here - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/dolphin.git/ | 22:20 |
| DarinMiller | Yes, I have seen that, but did not know where/how to proceed. I was under the impression, bzr performed similar functions and was the Canonical preferred method. | 22:20 |
| clivejo | yes and no | 22:21 |
| clivejo | most of the KDE software is on git | 22:21 |
| clivejo | we call that Debian git or Alioth | 22:22 |
| clivejo | if you visit that web interface you will see the repo in a visual format | 22:22 |
| clivejo | so there are 7 branches | 22:22 |
| clivejo | kubuntu_xenial_archive is tracking what is in the archive | 22:23 |
| DarinMiller | OK, following the links.... | 22:24 |
| clivejo | kubuntu_unstable and stable are for KCI | 22:24 |
| clivejo | they track changes to the /debian folder which is used to create the package | 22:29 |
| DarinMiller | btw, back at the apt-get source dolphin, it proceeded to dl packages, but gave me this message at the end: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file 'dolphin_15.08.2-0ubuntu1.dsc' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied). Am I missing an account setting somewhere? | 22:29 |
| clivejo | I get that message too | 22:29 |
| DarinMiller | oh, ok. | 22:29 |
| clivejo | I tend to use dget | 22:30 |
| clivejo | because the packages we are working on dont tend to be in the archive | 22:30 |
| DarinMiller | with dget, you pull the packages from here: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/ | 22:31 |
| DarinMiller | ? | 22:32 |
| clivejo | nope | 22:32 |
| clivejo | dget pulls the package by using a .dsc file | 22:32 |
| clivejo | for example, if you look on my PPA | 22:32 |
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/xenial/+packages | 22:32 |
| clivejo | if you go down to purpose | 22:33 |
| clivejo | expand that package | 22:33 |
| clivejo | in the Package files you will see a purpose_1.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1.dsc | 22:33 |
| clivejo | if you menu click and Copy link location you can copy the URL to the clipboard | 22:34 |
| clivejo | then run "dget https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/xenial/+files/purpose_1.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1.dsc" | 22:34 |
| clivejo | that will grab the source from my PPA | 22:34 |
| DarinMiller | OK, I follow... | 22:35 |
| clivejo | so run that command | 22:35 |
| clivejo | you will get an error from gpg | 22:36 |
| clivejo | it basically because I signed the file and you cant check the signature | 22:36 |
| DarinMiller | Yes, public key not found, validation failed. | 22:36 |
| clivejo | now do an "ls" | 22:37 |
| clivejo | should be 3 files | 22:37 |
| DarinMiller | yes 2 .xz and a dsc file | 22:38 |
| clivejo | now run "dpkg-source -x *dsc" | 22:38 |
| clivejo | you should now see a folder with the source code and in contains a /debian folder | 22:39 |
| clivejo | so "cd purpose-1.0/debian/" | 22:39 |
| clivejo | and list contents | 22:40 |
| clivejo | you should see all the packaging files | 22:41 |
| clivejo | control, rules, install files etc | 22:41 |
| DarinMiller | I had to kill my dophlin packages as they raised a conflict... | 22:42 |
| clivejo | sorry, should have said to mkdir a clean folder to work in | 22:42 |
| DarinMiller | Ok, yes.. opened control file in kate.... | 22:42 |
| clivejo | Vcs-Browser: tells you where the packaging is kept | 22:43 |
| clivejo | Build-Depends: are a list of all the packages needed to actually build it | 22:43 |
| clivejo | then a list of the packages it will try to put the built files into | 22:44 |
| clivejo | ie Package: libkf5purpose-dev | 22:44 |
| clivejo | if you take a peek into libkf5purpose-dev.install | 22:45 |
| DarinMiller | hang on a sec, where/how do I use vcs-browser? Is that a website, app or a file? | 22:46 |
| clivejo | VCS is Version Control System | 22:46 |
| clivejo | vcs browser should be a web link | 22:47 |
| DarinMiller | nevermind, I see it now..... | 22:47 |
| clivejo | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/purpose.git | 22:48 |
| DarinMiller | OK, peeking at libkf5purpose-dev.install... (wasn't too impressed...) | 22:49 |
| DarinMiller | :) | 22:49 |
| clivejo | LOL | 22:49 |
| clivejo | its important file! | 22:49 |
| clivejo | if you dont "install" the files, it wont work! | 22:50 |
| clivejo | ok so in your terminal go back to the purpose-1.0 folder | 22:51 |
| DarinMiller | done | 22:51 |
| clivejo | how many CPU cores have you? | 22:52 |
| DarinMiller | 4 cores, 8 threads | 22:52 |
| clivejo | go run "debuild -j8" | 22:52 |
| DarinMiller | mising build dep, looks like I need to intall some stuff, just a sec.. | 22:53 |
| clivejo | you will then see screens of info scrolling by! | 22:59 |
| clivejo | and get a sense of falling! | 23:00 |
| clivejo | what you are seeing is the build log | 23:00 |
| clivejo | something like this - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/243676443/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.purpose_1.0+git20160228.1155+16.04-0_BUILDING.txt.gz | 23:01 |
| DarinMiller | still installing deps for debuild.... | 23:01 |
| clivejo | this is why we use pbuild | 23:01 |
| clivejo | pbuild keeps all of this in a nice contained virtual environment | 23:02 |
| clivejo | but it helps to see this process at least once | 23:02 |
| DarinMiller | yes, i have seen you and scarlet post links to said files and yofel seems to be able to discover the issues therein almost instantly. | 23:03 |
| DarinMiller | Ok, building now... | 23:03 |
| DarinMiller | OK, build complete.... searching for the log... | 23:04 |
| clivejo | the "log" is all that output that scrolled by | 23:04 |
| DarinMiller | oh ok, found it :) | 23:05 |
| clivejo | its shows all the prechecks for build deps, then the actual building and then the installing into the .debs | 23:05 |
| clivejo | ok so cd .. | 23:06 |
| clivejo | and ls | 23:06 |
| clivejo | you should now see the actual .deb files | 23:06 |
| DarinMiller | yes! | 23:06 |
| clivejo | so you have actually built that package | 23:07 |
| clivejo | your computer used the source code to build all the binary files and then put them into .deb files for install on a debian based system | 23:07 |
| DarinMiller | way cool! | 23:08 |
| clivejo | isnt it! | 23:08 |
| clivejo | but the problem is that the source code changes and new features are added | 23:08 |
| clivejo | new files are created and old ones removed | 23:09 |
| clivejo | or the build requires new packages to actually be able to compile | 23:09 |
| DarinMiller | I am still confounded on how to unravel those mysteries. | 23:11 |
| clivejo | so a couple of days ago when KCI triggered a rebuild of this package, we got a notification in the channel that purpose build failed! | 23:11 |
| clivejo | the bot posts a link | 23:12 |
| clivejo | http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_purpose/ | 23:12 |
| clivejo | see down the left build #42 | 23:13 |
| clivejo | click on the [amd64] and you will see the buildlog for that job | 23:14 |
| clivejo | do you see it? | 23:14 |
| DarinMiller | recipe for target 'pre_install_dh_install' failed | 23:14 |
| clivejo | yup! | 23:15 |
| DarinMiller | I see it, but I don't know what that means. | 23:15 |
| clivejo | the packaging was instructing it to install any files located in usr/share/kaccounts/services/ | 23:15 |
| clivejo | but the installer couldnt find any files in that location | 23:15 |
| clivejo | but we do see a file being installed in a simular location | 23:16 |
| clivejo | - Installing: /«BUILDDIR»/purpose-1.0+git20160225.2316+16.04/debian/tmp/usr/share/accounts/services/twitter-microblog.service | 23:16 |
| clivejo | so for some reason upstream are now using usr/share/accounts instead of usr/share/kaccounts | 23:17 |
| clivejo | well actually they were using accounts then changed to kaccount and then moved back again! | 23:18 |
| clivejo | I have no idea why! | 23:18 |
| clivejo | if you look here | 23:19 |
| clivejo | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/purpose.git/log/?h=kubuntu_unstable | 23:19 |
| clivejo | 11 days ago Bhushan Shah changed the install path | 23:19 |
| clivejo | this is his commit | 23:20 |
| clivejo | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/frameworks/purpose.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=ffacd521fbeb79b2d911719a433955edb3671d0b | 23:20 |
| clivejo | so he edited the file debian/libkf5purpose5.install and changed accounts to kaccounts | 23:21 |
| DarinMiller | This is a debian member? | 23:21 |
| clivejo | I think hes a Blue Systems employee, not sure | 23:21 |
| DarinMiller | We have to discover these changes randomly? | 23:21 |
| DarinMiller | How did you find this page? | 23:22 |
| clivejo | well all this is happening on the KCI | 23:22 |
| clivejo | [kubuntu-ci] Project wily_unstable_kfilemetadata build #148: FIXED in 24 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/wily_unstable_kfilemetadata/148/ | 23:23 |
| clivejo | you will see messages like that popping up | 23:24 |
| clivejo | or the dreaded " STILL FAILING" or "FALTURE" | 23:25 |
| DarinMiller | Sounds like we need to use a variable list that is autoupdated when packages are built. Seem strange with all this automation that we have to manually discover such changes. | 23:25 |
| clivejo | it cant really be automated | 23:26 |
| clivejo | needs knowledge | 23:26 |
| clivejo | or how the packages interact and so forth | 23:26 |
| clivejo | kubuntu works very closely with Debian# | 23:27 |
| clivejo | and we use their git repo | 23:27 |
| clivejo | and that is one of the problems we have | 23:28 |
| clivejo | there are only a few of use with debian git commit access | 23:28 |
| clivejo | but you can submit git diffs to fix problems :) | 23:29 |
| clivejo | and KCI is working with the git repo from upstream | 23:30 |
| clivejo | so frameworks, plasma, apps +1 | 23:31 |
| clivejo | the idea is that if we can keep on top of the changes, new releases will be a lot easier to manage | 23:32 |
| DarinMiller | make sense | 23:33 |
| clivejo | but KCI does do its job by flagging up packages that need attention | 23:34 |
| clivejo | at the moment we have two major problems | 23:34 |
| clivejo | 1) kactivities is being split out into new packages | 23:35 |
| clivejo | 2) KDEPIM has major problems | 23:35 |
| DarinMiller | yes, I have been watching the PIM chaos from a distance and trying to figure out whats going on. | 23:36 |
| clivejo | http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kactivities/ | 23:37 |
| clivejo | if you look at the downstream projects | 23:38 |
| clivejo | 15 projects are failing because of that one breakage | 23:38 |
| clivejo | oh, thats a missing file issue | 23:40 |
| clivejo | and symbols | 23:42 |
| clivejo | and the kubuntu-ci bot is broken again! | 23:51 |
| clivejo | was wondering why it was so quiet in here! | 23:52 |
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