[00:00] <rem505> ne1 know why it would stop?
[00:00] <webigor> Not enough RAM
[00:01] <rem505> but im using a ramdisk
[00:01] <k1l> rem505: press any key
[00:02] <webigor> why ubuntu can't resolve depends?
[00:02] <k1l> webigor: put all the errormessages into paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[00:02] <rem505> k1l:  the keys just beep after a while
[00:02] <webigor> ok
[00:02] <cerya13> rem505:Ctrl+Alt+F1
[00:03] <cerya13> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz
[00:03] <webigor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15223558/
[00:04] <k1l> rem505: did you see the choose language screen etc?
[00:04] <rem505> k1l: no it never got to that
[00:04] <k1l> webigor: please put a "apt-cache policy gimp" on that paste
[00:04] <k1l> rem505: how did you create that usb?
[00:05] <rem505> k1l:  its a dvd from an iso
[00:05] <k1l> rem505: hmm
[00:06] <rem505> k1l this laptop does not have a usb boot option
[00:06] <k1l> uh its that old? than your only chance is the Lubuntu iso
[00:06] <webigor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15223604/
[00:06] <rem505> k1l ok i'll try that, thnks
[00:10] <k1l> webigor: what command did you use for that depency errors?
[00:10] <rem505> its got Brawndo...its what plants crave
[00:11] <rem505> k1l:  It may well have a usb boot, but I tried the SD card with no luck.
[00:11] <webigor> k1l: it's ubuntu's software center
[00:11] <k1l> webigor: close software-center. then in terminal do "sudo apt update && sudo install gimp"
[00:13] <Darmani> Hi everyone! I have some simple code I wrote but it won't let me run it from the Terminal, it keeps saying command not found?
[00:14] <Darmani> sudo ./name_of_project.rb
[00:15] <webigor> aah
[00:15] <reisio> Darmani: chmod +x ./name_of_project.rb first?
[00:16] <Darmani> reisio: I have to run it like that?
[00:17] <ouroumov_> Darmani, this is the file is executable
[00:17] <webigor> is there anyone knows about "programming"?
[00:17] <ouroumov_> Then you can run it using ./name_of_project.rb
[00:17] <Darmani> ouroumov_: yeah it's just a simple web server
[00:17] <ouroumov_> webigor, head over towards #programming
[00:18] <CyberGabber> Darmani: you must make the file executable, with command chmod u+x
[00:18] <Darmani> CyberGabber: Ohhhh
[00:18] <Darmani> Why is that? If you don't mind me asking?
[00:18] <Team24North> good morning ladies and gentlenerds :)
[00:19] <CyberGabber> Darmani: see under step3 on http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/10/ruby-hello-world-example-how-to-write-and-execute-ruby-program-on-unix-os/
[00:19] <geirha> to run it, you use ./name_of_project.rb
[00:19] <geirha> but to run it, it must be executable, which is what chmod +x does
[00:19] <webigor> aah, there's 5.20AM
[00:19] <webigor> What's morning?
[00:19] <Darmani> So for all the scripts I make I have to run that command first?
[00:20] <webigor> try chmod +x *
[00:20] <reisio> Darmani: if you don't want to specify the interpreter, yup
[00:20] <k1l> Darmani: as standard files are not +x by default. that is not to let any code execute automatically. its a security feature
[00:20] <reisio> Darmani: don't do what webigor said :p
[00:20] <webigor> or chmod+x ./*
[00:20] <geirha> Darmani: For the ones you intend to run, yes.
[00:20] <reisio> Darmani: sudo ruby ./name_of_project.rb would probably work
[00:20] <webigor> it'll make everything exectuble
[00:20] <alive876> hi, newbie here, i have novnc server running on an ubuntu cloud environment and am running a cpp program that comes back "Unable to connect to the X display"    ,  can you give me a hint to trak this down, i don't know much about networks.  thanks!!
[00:20] <geirha> webigor: which is probably not what he wants
[00:21] <k1l> Darmani: think on people on windows running .exe files that got named "a.person.naked.jpg.exe"
[00:21] <Darmani> ah okay. I think I get it.
[00:21] <Darmani> If I specified an interpreter then I wouldn't have to type that command anymore correct?
[00:22] <webigor> aah, i entered one repo too much times, how i can delete?
[00:22] <k1l> webigor: what do you mean?
[00:23] <webigor> i entered APT line too many times
[00:23] <bekks> webigor: which apt line?
[00:24] <geirha> Darmani: Right, because then it's ruby you execute, and it already has execute bit. The script only needs to be readable in that case
[00:24] <geirha> Darmani: I recommend reading http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions to learn about how unix permission work
[00:24] <Darmani> how2specifyinterpreter.jpg?
[00:25] <webigor> Why Ruby is too old in Ubuntu's repos?
[00:25] <webigor> It's 1.9.x but there's 2.x
[00:25] <reisio> too old for what
[00:26] <k1l> webigor: ubuntu 14.04 is on the state of pre april 2014.
[00:26] <reisio> Darmani: with ./foo, you say "please run foo, foo will make it apparent what to run itself via"
[00:26] <reisio> Darmani: with ruby ./foo, you say "ruby, run this, I want you to consider it ruby source"
[00:27] <reisio> in the latter case, it is merely input, and needn't be executable
[00:27] <webigor> i need latest ruby
[00:27] <reisio> webigor: 'latest' isn't a version
[00:27] <Darmani> reisio: That's what I was doing in the first place. sudo ./name_of_file.rb
[00:27] <reisio> Darmani: sudo is not an interpreter of ruby source code
[00:27] <webigor> I need rails 4, but i can't install it as it requires Ruby 2.x
[00:27] <reisio> Darmani: it's occasionally an interpreter of executable files, hence chmod +x
[00:28] <reisio> webigor: so update?
[00:28] <webigor> Ruby?
[00:28] <webigor> or ubuntu
[00:28] <Darmani> reisio: Okay, gotcha.
[00:28] <reisio> webigor: whichever
[00:29] <tunnu> Hello
[00:30] <tunnu> Am trying to dual boot between windows 7 and parted magic but its failing
[00:31] <tunnu> With the following error
[00:31] <tunnu> losetup: /dev/loop252: No such file or directory
[00:31] <tunnu> mount: unknown filesystem type 'squashfs'
[00:31] <tunnu> Mounting the fu.sqfs failed
[00:31] <ubuntu106> Ok so i get ubuntu to boot but now i get lots of crashing graphic issues. I also get a message prio to launch MP-BIOS bug 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC then more ata4.00 revalidation failed (errno=-19 and another that says (errno=-5
[00:31] <Jordan_U> tunnu: This is #ubuntu, we don't support parted magic. We do however support Ubuntu, which can run GParted and other utilities just fine.
[00:32] <Gallomimia> ubuntu106: what kind of graphics chip do you have? does it have drivers installed?
[00:32] <tunnu> Ok any other channel which supports parted magic that you are aware of ?
[00:33] <ubuntu106> let me check
[00:33] <Jordan_U> !alis | tunnu
[00:33] <tunnu> Ok thank you ubottu
[00:34] <ubuntu106> NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE and it said it was up to date
[00:34] <Gallomimia> :)
[00:34] <Gallomimia> ubuntu106: did you install drivers for it? maybe they're using open-source drivers, which i find don't work as reliably as the proprietary drivers :/
[00:35] <ubuntu106> i didnt i think there microsoft drivers
[00:35] <Gallomimia> uh...
[00:35] <ubuntu106> i'll try that
[00:35] <Gallomimia> why would we care about microsoft drivers in this channel?
[00:35] <Gallomimia> and why would ubuntu just plain tell you they're "up to date" that sounds like windows
[00:36] <Gallomimia> ubuntu106: hold on here a second.. back the truck up
[00:36] <ubuntu106> ok
[00:37] <Gallomimia> now, what is going on here?
[00:37] <Gallomimia> you're having problems with ubuntu running?
[00:37] <Gallomimia> is it in a VM?
[00:37] <ubuntu106> not sure what that means
[00:37] <ubuntu106> yes graphic issues
[00:37] <Gallomimia> you have windows on your computer
[00:37] <ubuntu106> yes
[00:37] <Gallomimia> and ubuntu?
[00:37] <ubuntu106> windows 7
[00:37] <ubuntu106> yes on usb
[00:38] <Gallomimia> like... the LiveUSB
[00:38] <ubuntu106> yes
[00:38] <Gallomimia> so you tried that, but it was giving issues
[00:38] <ubuntu106> yes
[00:38] <Gallomimia> and then i asked you about drivers in ubuntu, so you checked your drivers in windows?
[00:38] <ubuntu106> like freezing
[00:38] <Gallomimia> does that make sense to you?
[00:38] <ubuntu106> then yellow
[00:38] <ubuntu106> im checking in both
[00:38] <Gallomimia> i really don't care if your windows install works
[00:38] <ubuntu106> ill check ubuntu
[00:39] <Gallomimia> to do that, you must reboot?
[00:39] <ubuntu106> ok
[00:39] <Gallomimia> also, there's no drivers installed on your USB stick.
[00:39] <Gallomimia> so, needn't bother checking.
[00:39] <Gallomimia> are you planning to install ubuntu on the hard disk?
[00:39] <ubuntu106> no
[00:39] <Gallomimia> then..... what?
[00:40] <Gallomimia> !persistent | ubuntu106
[00:40] <ubuntu106> just using it from usb
[00:40] <Gallomimia> you'll need to take a few steps to get those drivers installed. this is the first one
[00:40] <Gallomimia> also, one thing i did was to use the LiveUSB to install onto another USB stick. ran that for weeks without issue
[00:41] <Gallomimia> was able to install drivers and anything i wanted
[00:44] <ubuntu106> sorry im lost on all this. would it be easier to just burn to a disc? im also getting the mp-bios bug error
[00:44] <ubuntu106> 8254
[00:47] <ubuntu106> ubuntu lauches fine but if i move to fast the graphics screw all up bascially then will freeze up im using a sandisk usb but usb2.0 ports
[00:47] <ddybing> are you using a dedicated graphics card or integrated graphics?
[00:49] <squinty> !manual
[00:50] <squinty> also has install instructions.  might also want to check out pendrivelinux.com for tutorials and software suggestions
[00:58] <systemd0wn> Has anyone noticed issue with curl after update on the 26th? I don't see any recent bugs.
[00:59] <systemd0wn> Trying to use it to add a new gpg key and now I get, "curl: (77) error setting certificate verify locations:
[00:59] <systemd0wn>   CAfile: /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt
[00:59] <systemd0wn>   CApath: none"
[00:59] <systemd0wn> That's not the standard ca path.
[01:01] <systemd0wn> curl 7.43.0-1ubuntu2.1 on Ubuntu 15.10.
[01:03] <webigor> Who installed ubuntu 16.04?
[01:04] <k1l> webigor: some did. the channel for the "not yet released ubuntu" is #ubuntu+1
[01:08] <Loshki> I have a Ubuntu/clonezilla question. Can I ask it here? #clonezilla is very small and quiet.
[01:08] <reisio> remains to be seen
[01:16] <dw1> any ideas why m64py on ubuntu 14.04 would have no File menu in it?
[01:17] <xangua> dw1: can't you see the menubar? Using Unity?
[01:17] <dw1> i'm using gnome-session-fallback
[01:17] <dw1> no menubar
[01:18]  * dw1 runs with strace :/
[01:19] <webigor> I'm compiling Ruby
[01:19] <webigor> lol
[01:21] <daniel> hello
[01:23] <reisio> 'lo
[01:40] <jpmh> why does: echo b |grep -is -f temp.lst    - return b IF there is an empty line and ONLY an empty line in the file temp.lst.  If the file is empty, then I get nothing, as expected?
[01:50] <marchesini> Ubuntu 16.04 only will be available in late april
[01:54] <Bashing-om> marchesini: 16.04 will be released then ... not saying you can not become a beta tester . join ubuntu+1 .
[01:54] <jushur> marchesini: #ubuntu+1
[01:58] <marchesini> I install ubuntu beta 1 on my p4 3.2 with 768mb ddr... The system run a little bit lag with the video, my agp is a radeon 9200 se, then i solve this problem installing xubuntu desktop 16.04 beta of the repositorie
[01:58] <marchesini> Now run very well
[02:00] <marchesini> The ubuntu requires a good graphics card
[02:02] <marchesini> Will be good if ubuntu comes with the possibilite to use low resources, only some few effects and the necessary
[02:02] <xangua> marchesini: that's what Xubuntu or Lubuntu are for
[02:03] <nedstark> lubuntu is the flagship ubuntu os, and its flag is the jolly roger
[02:03] <jushur> !xenial
[02:03] <Bashing-om> !minimal | marchesini
[02:04] <cfhowlett> nedstark, this is ubuntu support.  poetry and chitchat belong in #ubuntu-offtopic.  thank you.
[02:05] <nedstark> cfhowlett: how do i get a jolly roger background in unity
[02:06] <cfhowlett> nedstark, wiki images for the pic, right click on an empty spot in your desktop.  "properties" should allow you set a wallpaper
[02:06] <nedstark> yarr, i shoulda thought of that
[02:07] <marchesini> Bashing-om: when i say low i mean to resources utilization, like effect. Good for notebook users and cellphone
[02:07] <cfhowlett> nedstark, note, I use xubuntu so ... no unity or unity expertise
[02:17] <coffeeguy> hi how do i update openvpn in ubuntu?
[02:17] <hipitihop> I'm on 14.04 and have been running "3.16.0-031600-generic #201408031935 SMP Sun Aug 3 23:36:11 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux" for months. Any attempt to go later kernel, I have tried 3.16.0-62 through to 4.2.0-30.34~14.04.1 I get no keyboard or mouse in logging screen. Any pointers ?
[02:37] <sta7ic> I have ubuntu installed on a 256 gb drive but its only using up like 30 GB, and i want to migrate the data to a 80 GB SSD. whats the best way to do that since im not sure if i can just use dd or if clonezilla will allow me to convert to smaller drives
[02:44] <hipitihop> For the benefit of others that may have same issue, I found my solution to no keyboard/mouse problem here https://blog.al4.co.nz/2014/12/ubuntu-14-04-no-usb-keyboard-after-upgrading-kernel
[03:21] <Fudge> hi looking for a bit of help on a server, getting usb soundcard to be recognized, alsactl init sees it and it works fine on a desktop cd
[03:22] <Fudge> 002 Device 002: ID 0d8c:0014 C-Media Electronics, Inc.
[03:30] <meurth> I can't login to my only sudoer after I altered /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/us.  How do  I root a terminal as a non-sudoer even if I never set a root password?
[03:30] <meurth> using bathroom now
[03:30] <extraymond> Hi! I have problem using hardware decoding on AMD graphic card, fglrx is working fine but vainfo gives me error.
[03:31] <Fudge> meurth:  log in to recovery at grub and use root login to fix
[03:31] <Lusosec> any one use private tunnel? trying to import a  profile.  ca.crt, usr.crt and usr.key  are not importing properly
[03:45] <Fudge> what do you mean not importing properly
[03:56] <kenne123> hi all
[04:02] <Valduare> hey guys im on 15.10  and cant pair with bluetooth keyboard
[04:02] <Valduare> tried using the gui and also bluetoothctl commands
[04:03] <reisio> Valduare: keyboard in discovery mode?
[04:03] <Valduare> tried two diff bluetooth dongles
[04:03] <Valduare> yep
[04:03] <Valduare> keyboard works on other computers fine
[04:03] <Valduare> even with the same dongles
[04:03] <reisio> on other computerS?
[04:05] <Valduare> yep
[04:05] <reisio> did the passkey thing?
[04:06] <pr0metheu5> Sorry this isn't specific to Ubuntu, but any linux distro installer won't detect my hard disk on my laptop when I try to install alongside windows 10. Any ideas why this is happening?
[04:06] <Valduare> it wont ask for the pin
[04:06] <reisio> pr0metheu5: could be your bios/u/efi settings have some kind of terrible s/ata defaults
[04:08] <pr0metheu5> wjat
[04:08] <pr0metheu5> what should be the defaults?
[04:10] <reisio> pr0metheu5: something that allows your devices to be seen by GNU/Linux
[04:12] <pr0metheu5> I installed Linux on this laptop about a year ago and it was fine
[04:12] <pr0metheu5> but I had to replace my hard disk because the last one failed, and I installed Windows 10 on the new one
[04:13] <reisio> pr0metheu5: that's irrelevant :)
[04:14] <pr0metheu5> could it be this new hd is incompatible somehow?
[04:14] <pr0metheu5> it's weird that I can see it via gparted
[04:14] <reisio> not really, no
[04:14] <reisio> pr0metheu5: you can see it form gparted from 'try ubuntu'?
[04:17] <pr0metheu5> sorry about that
[04:17] <pr0metheu5> but as I said, I can see the hard disk via Gparted and also if I do gdisk -l /dev/sda
[04:19] <reisio> pr0metheu5: you can see it form gparted from 'try ubuntu'?
[04:22] <pr0metheu5> I have no idea why the installer won't see my hard disk if it shows up fine in Gparted or when I use gdisk in terminal ..... anyone have any ideas?
[04:23] <reisio> I have no idea why you won't answer my question
[04:27] <pr0metheu5> reisio what was your question?
[04:28] <pr0metheu5> reisio I'm using the browser based IRC client so it's a little shoddy and I got disconnected earlier
[04:28] <pr0metheu5> sorry
[04:29] <reisio> pr0metheu5: you can see it form gparted from 'try ubuntu'?
[04:29] <reisio> x3
[04:29] <pr0metheu5> yes, reisio
[04:29] <reisio> and during installing you see nothing?
[04:30] <pr0metheu5> reisio: yes, during installation, nothing
[04:30] <reisio> what's sudo lsblk -f say?
[04:30] <pr0metheu5> it's showing sda
[04:30] <pr0metheu5> with it's partitions as well, sda1 and sda2
[04:31] <reisio> but not sdb?
[04:31] <pr0metheu5> as well as sdb which is unallocated and sdc which is recovery partition
[04:31] <reisio> you might try using g/parted to partition it manually, then run the installer
[04:32] <pr0metheu5> aah man .. I've never manually partitioned a hard disk before
[04:32] <reisio> pr0metheu5: it's easy; sdb?
[04:32] <pr0metheu5> reisio: apparently sdb is only 23mb of unallocated space ...
[04:32] <reisio> you have three disks?
[04:32] <reisio> or two?
[04:33] <pr0metheu5> I believe I should have two =s but it's a sshd
[04:33] <pr0metheu5> I mean one of them is
[04:33] <reisio> pr0metheu5: ssd
[04:33] <reisio> pr0metheu5: but lsblk shows three? sda, b, c?
[04:33] <pr0metheu5> yes
[04:33] <reisio> okay
[04:33] <reisio> you need to go into your bios/u/efi prefs
[04:33] <reisio> and toggle a sata pref
[04:34] <pr0metheu5> I could sign on here using my desktop
[04:34] <pr0metheu5> would you be able to tell me what exactly I should change?
[04:34] <reisio> probably, it should be obvious
[04:34] <pr0metheu5> ok, give me one minute please
[04:37] <pr0metheu5_> hey reisio
[04:37] <pr0metheu5_> would it be under boot options?
[04:37] <reisio> um
[04:38] <pr0metheu5_> I see Legacy Boot and UEFI Boot
[04:38] <reisio> I doubt it, probably power or sata or disk or something
[04:38] <reisio> could be, though
[04:38] <reisio> nah, that shouldn't be relevant (for this issue)
[04:38] <pr0metheu5_> in advance
[04:38] <reisio> advance sounds good
[04:38] <pr0metheu5_> there is SATA Operation
[04:38] <reisio> bingo
[04:38] <pr0metheu5_> and intel smart response technology is selected ...
[04:39] <reisio> and that's your problem
[04:39] <pr0metheu5_> I can change it to either ATA or AHCI
[04:39] <reisio> mmm, one of those :p
[04:39] <reisio> hang on, let's see what the interweb says
[04:39] <pr0metheu5_> lol
[04:40] <pr0metheu5_> AHCI is apparently newer, should I just try with that first?
[04:40] <reisio> pr0metheu5_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2020155
[04:40] <pr0metheu5_> it says my operating system might not load if I change this setting lol
[04:40] <reisio> you can definitely just try one
[04:40] <reisio> please don't blame me, though
[04:40] <Valduare> gha still having troubles with bluetooth on 15.10
[04:41] <reisio> pr0metheu5_: looks like the people in the thread I linked have it all figured out, so I'd read that
[04:41] <reisio> it's only really an issue for dual boots
[04:41] <pr0metheu5_> yeah, I'm going through it now, thanks!
[04:41] <reisio> and it's only really about getting each OS to boot reliably
[04:42] <reisio> if you wanted only Ubuntu, you could just flip it to ahci or whatever, and be done
[04:42] <reisio> anyway, I think that thread'll suffice
[04:42] <pr0metheu5_> yeah, I'm gonna try what it says now
[04:42] <reisio> don't forget to read to the end (2 pages) first
[04:43] <reisio> sometimes there's that last reply that says "lawl you could've just ran ${super tiny thing}"
[05:16] <OHEruH> Hi! I try to use many ipv6 addresses on my eth0. when i was added new address, and do /etc/init.d/networking restart I don't see new IPv6 address (...:d002) in my ifconfig. What I am doing wrong? My config: http://pastebin.com/AyVGH0pf
[05:27] <Bruze> Anybody up to help me with some weird networking issues?
[05:38] <jayk> i can't get a vhost to lost using 14.04 LTS
[05:38] <jayk> it says permission denied
[05:39] <jayk> *load
[05:39] <jayk> i am using the new syntax for 2.4
[05:39] <jayk> but still it isnt working
[05:39] <jayk> can someone help?
[05:40] <EriC^^> jayk: what command are you running?
[05:40] <jayk> what do you mean command?
[05:40] <jayk> everything is set up
[05:40] <jayk> but i get 403 error forbidden
[05:42] <EriC^^> a2ensite command etc
[05:42] <jayk> i wasn't using that
[05:43] <EriC^^> are the permissions correct on the root dir of the site?
[05:43] <jayk> i tried it and it said my site doesn't exist
[05:43] <jayk> yes
[05:43] <jayk> i did a chown -R www-data.www-data /var/www
[05:43] <jayk> my vhost is in /var/www/vhost.tld
[05:43] <jayk> it is referenced in /etc/apache2/sites-availabled and linked frmo sites-enabled
[05:45] <viju> Hi, I am going to upgrade the RAM, I wanted to know if it's okay to use 4+ GB on ubuntu 32-bit?
[05:45] <EriC^^> what about the rwx permissions?
[05:46] <pr0metheu5> Hey all
[05:46] <pr0metheu5> my SATA Storage was set to Intel Rapid storage technology
[05:46] <pr0metheu5> so the linux install wouldn't detech it
[05:46] <pr0metheu5> I have since changed it to ATA and my windows install won't work anymore, but the linux installer still won't detect a hard disk for some reason
[05:47] <pr0metheu5> any help appreciated
[05:47] <pr0metheu5> can see them fine in gparted
[05:47] <pr0metheu5> so should I just format it?
[05:47] <jayk> EriC^^: , tey are correct
[05:47] <jayk> 755 for 644
[05:48] <jayk> I don't think my vhost is being included, so I must have missed a step
[05:51] <apatters> Hi, I'm trying to set up a wifi hotspot with a second usb wifi adapter. I followed the directions at https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-adhoc.html and none of my other devices see the network. What should I do next?
[06:00] <magnus2> we're in position on the bridge
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:20] <oppa> Hello channel. Im trying to download updates only. What is the command to do so? thanks
[06:21] <baizon> oppa: sudo apt-get update, then to upgrade sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:27] <oppa> thanks baizon but when i did that sudo apt-get upgrade says "Need to get 68.1 MB of archives."
[06:27] <oppa> so it did not downloaded all
[06:28] <xangua> Yes, files use space in your disk
[06:28] <baizon> oppa: that are the upgrades it will download
[06:28] <baizon> oppa: doing upgrades is recommended
[06:28] <oppa> ah ok. And to install them all?
[06:29] <baizon> oppa: yes
[06:30] <oppa> how to instal them all after they are 100% downloaded?
[06:31] <Jordan_U> oppa: Why do you want to download and install in separate steps?
[06:32] <oppa> No, i just want to download all and when it is 100% update all, i have a terrible connection
[06:34] <Jordan_U> oppa: "sudo apt-get upgrade" will do that. It downloads all of the available updates then installs them.
[06:35] <oppa> that is the problem, i want to download only and be me who decide when to install them
[06:47] <Jordan_U> oppa: I can't find any built in way to do that. You could script a combination of parsing "apt-get upgrade"s output and feed that list of packages to "apt-get download".
[06:49] <Jordan_U> oppa: Note that "apt-get download" downloads the packages to the current directory, and you can then use "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" within that directory, but be sure that the directory you choose to run apt-get download and dpkg from don't have any other .deb files already in them.
[06:51] <minas114> Hello. My laptop takes a lot of time to boot, and I'm trying to understand why. Here is the output of dmesg: http://pastebin.com/Zm5KNfiu   See line 937.. It seems that it took 33 seconds to mount /sda8??
[06:51] <aditya> guys
[06:51] <aditya> can u help miw with this
[06:51] <aditya> my terminal is acting weired
[06:51] <aditya> http://pasteboard.co/1SVzipQU.png
[06:51] <aditya> there
[06:52] <Qwertie> Does anyone know how to enable mutiny on ubuntu mate 16.04?
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> Qwertie: #ubuntu+1 for xenial issues
[06:54] <Qwertie> Thanks lotuspsychje
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> minas114: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[06:57] <minas114> lotuspsychje, 15.10
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> minas114: uname -a please?
[06:58] <baizon> minas114: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=868189
[07:00] <minas114> lotuspsychje, Linux inspiron-3543 4.4.0-040400-generic #201601101930 SMP Mon Jan 11 00:32:41 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> minas114: did you play with kernels?
[07:00] <minas114> lotuspsychje, Yes, I have updated to the latest
[07:00] <baizon> hmm 4.4? either ubuntu 16.04 or mainlane gernel
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> minas114: any reason exactly?
[07:00] <baizon> mainline*
[07:01] <minas114> lotuspsychje, Suspend and hibernate were not working correctly with 4.2.
[07:01] <minas114> lotuspsychje, is this the problem?
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> minas114: can you try a boot on 4.2 kernel to see if you have also your slow boot issue?
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> minas114: not sure if its related, but lets investigate anyway
[07:02] <minas114> lotuspsychje, Yes. Let me see if I have it installed
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> minas114: use grub for previous kernel boot right
[07:09] <minas114> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/d64FW9ik It was faster (but it tried to do a disk check which I cancelled).
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> minas114: if ubuntu disk checks, something isnt right...
[07:10] <minas114> lotuspsychje, by the way: every time my pc boots, it does a disk check
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> minas114: recent hd adds?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> minas114: did you tweak fstab somehow?
[07:12] <minas114> lotuspsychje, I had messed up my system 2 weeks ago (but the check was made before that as well). I had deleted /boot/efi partition by mistake, so to fix the problem I installed ubuntu again on a different partition (so that it creates the efi partition) and then removed it.
[07:12] <Volund> okay people, here's a stumper. my router's physical WAN port appears to have died. Thankfully the router is running OpenWRT, and I have this Linux box with two NICs in it. I want to setup my Linux as a NAT gateway so that it's ISP -> Linuxbox -> router/switch -> other devices. been googling stuff but the instructions haven't been working. how do I get NAT going? All I need is NAT, all other...
[07:12] <Volund> ...services like DNS or DHCP are accounted for.
[07:12] <minas114> lotuspsychje, my /home is on a different partition if it makes a difference. Let me show my fstab.
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> minas114: i think you should reainstall clean, to get things straight mate
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> Volund: try the ##networking channel
[07:13] <Volund> alrighty
[07:13] <Gallomimia> Volund: on ubuntu?
[07:13] <minas114> lotuspsychje, I was trying to avoid it :P but it's good my home is on another partition, I won't lose anything.
[07:15] <Gallomimia> minas114 aw he gone
[07:21] <sta7ic> I have ubuntu installed on a 256 gb drive but its only using up like 30 GB, and i want to migrate the data to a 80 GB SSD. whats the best way to do that since im not sure if i can just use dd or if clonezilla will allow me to convert to smaller drives
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: not recommended mate
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: clean install on an ssd is highly recommended
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: wich ssd brand you have?
[07:25] <baizon> sta7ic: i agree with lotuspsychje, i mean its only ~30 min of work.
[07:27] <sta7ic> yeah but its not my comp
[07:27] <sta7ic> so its gunna be a little tougher but ill be fine
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: meaning you cant...?
[07:28] <sta7ic> meaning i dont want to have to nickel and dime every setting they made so it appears to be seamless
[07:28] <sta7ic> if theres no way using dd or clonezilla then ill do it by hand
[07:28] <sta7ic> not a big deal just suprised
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: there are packages to backup stuff or save configs too
[07:29] <sta7ic> ill have to put every pic back where it was, every chrome plugin back, logins and passwds, etc, etc
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: convince your user of a clean system to start over
[07:30] <alocer> sta7ic: i don't know but malybe rsync the whole root ?
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: i would setup your mechanical hd as 2nd, then backup stuff to your main ssd from there
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: dont forget to change bios from IDE to AHCI also for ssd
[07:31] <sta7ic> ?
[07:31] <sta7ic> what are u talking bout
[07:31] <sta7ic> haha
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: check your bios
[07:31] <sta7ic> just randomly guessing what i have or what i dont know already
[07:31] <sta7ic> haha
[07:32] <sta7ic> "make sure to enable trim support for your SSD"
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: if you know it all already, why are you here?
[07:33] <sta7ic> because i wanted to know if clonezilla can clonde images to smaller disks =]
[07:33] <e66> In our ubuntu server sometimes a package some-pkg can not be installed due to network issue or "no installation candidate" error.  Now if I just download the .deb and manually install it by dpkg -i some-pkg….deb, will it install same as it would have been installed by apt-get ?
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> e66: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys can help?
[07:33] <sta7ic> or if i could use dd if=/dev/sda of/dev/sdb or something
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: i already told you, it wouldnt be recommended to do
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: but its your system, there is also #clonezilla
[07:34] <sta7ic> do you have any thing to back that statement?
[07:35] <sta7ic> like i believe you,, but are u saying this based off of facts or jsut because you havent done it?
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: backup a system from mechanical to ssd isnt the way to go
[07:36] <geirha> mount the filesystems, copy files with rsync
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: you will benefit the most with a clean ubuntu install to your ssd, speed, fstab,etc
[07:36] <sta7ic> geirha: so boot into flash drive, mount /dev/sda and /dev/sdb and then just copy between the two?
[07:37] <sta7ic> lotuspsychje: what facts are u basing that off of? the 256 drive is also ssd
[07:37] <sta7ic> the 256 gb drive is a semi new install
[07:38] <geirha> sta7ic: sure
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: you never mentioned that
[07:38] <sta7ic> i didnt thnik it was relavent
[07:39] <sta7ic> geirha: so ill make the boot partition similar in size...and then the root FS will be a lot smaller but should be fine since there isnt much on there..
[07:40] <sta7ic> the only hardware difference is the 256 GB SSD is sata 6 and the 80 GB is sata 3 but her laptop sata port is only 3gbps so shouldnt matte
[07:41] <sta7ic> ok thanks geirha and lotuspsychje...ill give it a shot and if it doesnt work ill resort back to clean install...thankx
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: make sure you got the latest firmware on your ssd, but you might already know that
[07:43] <Jordan_U> sta7ic: Why bother with a separate /boot/ partition at all?
[07:44] <sta7ic> Jordan_U: now that i think about her system i installed everything under /
[07:44] <sta7ic> so we should be good to go
[07:44] <sta7ic> she cant afford the 256 gb SSD drive so im just giving her an older intel SSD X-10 or whatever it is..
[07:45] <Jordan_U> sta7ic: Note also that after using rsync you'll need to edit the UUIDs in your /etc/fstab and re-install grub.
[07:45] <sta7ic> Jordan_U: good point...
[07:45] <milan> since i am using ubuntu, i need to use lampserver as in xampp in windows OS, but where should i put my entire html and php file since i cant find htdocs in linux file system?
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: and thats the reason why clean install is recommended
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | milan
[07:46] <Jordan_U> sta7ic: Also, if this machine is UEFI based then you'll need to create an EFI System Partition on the new drive as well.
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> milan: can you find your file with the 'whereis' command?
[07:46] <sta7ic> lotuspsychje: yeah believe me im all about the clean system like i said, i agree with u, but i want this to be fast and i dont want to have to go through all her sheet.
[07:47] <milan> lotuspsychje: i mean, is there also htdocs in here?
[07:47] <sta7ic> Jordan_U: its an older laptop
[07:47] <sta7ic> but it may be..ill check for that thx
[07:48] <Jordan_U> sta7ic: If it's bios based and the SSD uses GPT then you'll either need to create a BIOS Boot Partition or convert to an msdos partition table.
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: im sure there are handy browser addons to backup configs, also her /home (hidden folders) contain handy configs of stuff
[07:48] <sta7ic> thats fine...i dobut drives automatically select GPT unless you ask for it
[07:49] <sta7ic> lotuspsychje: who knows what she installed, I set up VMware for her, wine...and a bunch of project management stuff shes been downloading
[07:49] <sta7ic> i dont want to spend my sunday going through her stuff for $0 dollars but shes a friends broke as mom so im jsut being nice
[07:49] <sta7ic> heh
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> sta7ic: important data= backup to external always
[07:51] <sta7ic> i might be able to recover her windows 5400 rpm drive so hopefully she'll want that back and my day is done..
[07:52] <sta7ic> lotuspsychje: i have freenas setup with 16 TB raidz1
[07:52] <sta7ic> wont be an issue...
[07:52] <sta7ic> ill never go back to external drives again..
[07:52] <sta7ic> after seagate ST3000d001 hit me
[07:54] <sta7ic> ok so clean install if it looks easy, otherwise rsync and update fstab and grub...and possibly uefi
[07:54] <sta7ic> thx guys...
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> milan: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know more of this
[07:57] <apatters> buffer 1
[08:00] <spitzi> Hello. Is there still no GUI way to enable hibernation?
[08:00] <spitzi> In Ubuntu 14.04
[08:03] <gabrielAtheos> Anyone got any advice involving potentially bad ram
[08:03] <gabrielAtheos> ??
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> gabrielAtheos: maybe the ##hardware guys can assist you on that?
[08:07] <Fudge> anyone have the package name or wiki to fix a ntldr, think its boot loader for windows from ubuntu.
[08:09] <gabrielAtheos> lotuspsychje: thank you!
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> Fudge: ntldr is missing, you get when a windows is corrupt, better ask in ##windows howto reinstall
[08:10] <Fudge> lotuspsychje:  i thought there was ubuntu software to assist, maybe im thinking of resetting passwords only
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> Fudge: whats your endgoal exactly? you have dualboot or so?
[08:28] <Fudge> lotuspsychje:  a mate, using windows. think i might just install ubuntu an d he can dual boot, grub will fix all and grub-0customizer can use windows as first boot
[08:29] <Fudge> i mean grub-set-default
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> Fudge: if you have ntldr missing, not sure you will be able to fix
[08:30] <Fudge> its the boot loader i thought
[08:31] <auronandace> Fudge: grub doesn't actually load windows, it chainloads the bootloader for windows (ntldr)
[08:35] <Shoggoth> under trusty I could disbale (or repurpose) ctrl-alt-del by editing /etc/init/control-alt-delete.conf…. this seems to have disappeared in later distro’s … what is thre replacement mechanism?
[08:35] <auronandace> !systemd | Shoggoth
[08:38] <Fudge> thanks
[08:51] <JyZyXEL> is there a program for linux that fills a hard drive from a seeded random number generator and then reads it all back and confirms it got the same result?
[09:03] <dorelyo> freetuxtv keeps crushing after syncing channels. Anyone can help?
[09:04] <Jordan_U> JyZyXEL: badblocks
[09:05] <JyZyXEL> Jordan_U: it only does a static pattern
[09:06] <Jordan_U> JyZyXEL: From "man badblocks": The test_pattern may either be a numeric value between 0 and ULONG_MAX-1 inclusive, or the word "random", which specifies that the block should be filled with a random bit pattern.
[09:06] <JyZyXEL> i want it filled with something meaningful like pi or prime numbers
[09:07] <dorelyo> freetuxtv keeps crushing after syncing channels. Anyone can help?
[09:07] <JyZyXEL> Jordan_U: its only static
[09:07] <Jordan_U> JyZyXEL: I'm guessing that it's not seeded but rather just checked block by block, but I don't see any advantage to a seeded solution.
[09:07] <JyZyXEL> Jordan_U: well the broken hard drive passes standard badblocks with flying colors
[09:07] <phenomenon> Hi, I have a Asus F302LA and I have tried the normal fixes for brightness buttons and brightness at max when restarting. And touchpad not working after suspend. Are there any other distro I could use? Or are there any other ways to make it work?
[09:08] <JyZyXEL> which is to be expected
[09:08] <Jordan_U> JyZyXEL: Is there something from the manual page that leads you to expect that their "random" chooses one short random pattern and uses it for every block it checks rather than generating a new random pattern for every block?
[09:08] <JyZyXEL> Jordan_U: i read the source
[09:09] <JyZyXEL> it is very outdated and badly made
[09:09] <JyZyXEL> which is why i have silent data corruption in the first place
[09:09] <Jordan_U> JyZyXEL: Are you expecting that your drive is doing inline dedup/compression?
[09:09] <JyZyXEL> because badblocks was a inadequate pre-burn tool
[09:10] <JyZyXEL> Jordan_U: well im expecting it to silently data corrupt just like it did in my raid6 array
[09:10] <JyZyXEL> probably some subtle firmware issue on the drive
[09:10] <JunkHunk> hello I am tryig to use a ps4 headset with ubuntu it is a turtlebeach stealth 400. I can hear sound from system and all running aplications but the mic is not detected by the system. the point is I need the mic because this headset has an Auto shut-down feature that only resets when some sound is captured with the microphone
[09:11] <JyZyXEL> badblocks isn't advanced enough to detect it though
[09:11] <dorelyo> I keep getting this message after adding a repository
[09:11] <dorelyo> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/venerix/pkg/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[09:11] <dorelyo> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[09:12] <Jordan_U> dorelyo: Sounds like that ppa may have been discontinued or doesn't have any wily packages.
[09:12] <dorelyo> Jordan_U: so how can I fix it?
[09:13] <Jordan_U> dorelyo: What is that ppa for? Why did you add it? If you no longer need it, then remove the ppa with "ppa-purge".
[09:13] <dorelyo> Jordan_U: I need that ppa to install a package
[09:14] <dorelyo> and I cannot install it without the ppa
[09:14] <Jordan_U> dorelyo: https://launchpad.net/~venerix/+archive/ubuntu/pkg states that that ppa doesn't support 15.10, so you're already out of luck there.
[09:15] <dorelyo> Jordan_U: so what is the command to remove ppa:venerix/pkg? :D
[09:16] <pukeko_2> anyone know much about dell servers PERC 5/i ?
[09:17] <cfhowlett> pukeko_2, ubuntu support, only pukeko_2 ...
[09:18] <pukeko_2> that's cool is there still an ubuntu server chan ?
[09:18] <cfhowlett> !server | pukeko_2 enjoy ...
[09:18] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-server
[09:19] <Jordan_U> dorelyo: sudo ppa-purge ppa:venerix/pkg #Note that this should also remove any packages you installed from this ppa previously, but may not if you have upgraded since installing them
[09:19] <pukeko_2> sweet I had underscore  - thanks
[09:21] <dorelyo> Jordan_U: Didn;t work, I had to use sudo add-apt-repository --remove
[09:25] <bazhang> !info freetuxtv
[09:29] <Jordan_U> dorelyo: Note that you already weren't getting updates, including security fixes, for the packages from that ppa.
[09:34] <jpmh> why does: echo b |grep -is -f temp.lst    - return b IF there is an empty line and ONLY an empty line in the file temp.lst.  If the file is empty, then I get nothing, as expected?
[09:35] <dax> because an empty pattern matches everything
[09:36] <dax> (because every line contains the empty string)
[09:37] <Jordan_U> jpmh: "Obtain patterns from FILE, one per line.  The empty file contains zero patterns, and therefore matches nothing." (from "man grep")
[09:38] <dax> that answers the bit they already expected :P
[09:38] <jpmh> Jordan U, yes, I agree te problem is that I am asking why does it return the pattern when I call it with a file that is not empty but has one empty line
[09:38] <dorelyo> how can I find the config file for an app (eg radiotray)?
[09:39] <Jordan_U> jpmh: dax answered that above.
[09:39] <jpmh> Jordan U, it works as I expected and you explain on the empty file, it is when the file contains an empty line, actually even if other lines are legit
[09:39] <dax> empty lines match everything
[09:40] <dax> because empty line = zero-length pattern = empty string = a subset of every string
[09:40] <jpmh> dax, but my patter is NOT empty, this is what I am missing
[09:40] <Jordan_U> jpmh: echo b | grep "" # You'll see that this also matches and prints "b"
[09:41] <dax> "pattern" refers to the regex, not to your input
[09:41] <jpmh> dax, but surely the echoed b is the patter OR regEX - this is what I am not understanding here.  And that does not match an emoty line
[09:42] <dax> echo input | grep pattern
[09:42] <dax> the input is "b", it's matched against the pattern "". "" is present in every string, so it's present in "b", so "b" is output
[09:42] <jpmh> dax, I do not understand your last comment, please explain
[09:42] <Jordan_U> jpmh: Do you understand why the following command *does* print "b"? : echo b | grep ""
[09:43] <jpmh> dax, I mean the one pvreious to your last, they crossed
[09:43] <dax> jpmh: in the commands you have been giving, "b" is not what it is searching FOR, it's what it is searching
[09:43] <dax> the contents of temp.lst are a set of patterns, one per line, that it is searching FOR
[09:44] <dax> so, if temp.lst contains a blank line, it searches "b" for the empty string, which it finds
[09:44] <jpmh> dax, ty, that was what I was missing here
[09:44] <dax> :)
[09:44] <drac0666> Sometimes when im shuting down my PC it hangs on Shutdown logo and i have to manualy press poweroff button on my PC. Can someone help me fix it?
[09:44] <Jordan_U> jpmh: grep pattern filename #Will search for the given pattern in the given file
[09:45] <jpmh> dax, just so I am certain here, you are saying that it is looking for each line of my file, temp.lst to see if it matches the "b", right?
[09:45] <jpmh> Jordan, so how do I use grep to search through the file with the pattern that I am searching for comming from srdin?
[09:46] <Jordan_U> jpmh: What is your end goal in doing that?
[09:46] <mharris> jpmh: grep 'pattern' file.txt
[09:46] <jpmh> Jordan, I need to use this in a procmail recipe and so the pattern that I want to search for, in the file, comes from the execution of formail
[09:47] <jpmh> mharris, got it, ty
[09:47] <mharris> jpmh: the pattern comes from formail?
[09:47] <jpmh> guys, I thank you all so much.  This is why this room is so great
[09:47] <jpmh> mharris, yes it will
[09:47] <dax> jpmh: echo pattern | grep -f - filetosearch
[09:48] <dax> jpmh: the -f - means "the file to read patterns from is stdin"
[09:48] <jpmh> dax, that works well too.  Thank you
[09:48] <drac0666> Sometimes when im shuting down my PC it hangs on Shutdown logo and i have to manualy press poweroff button on my PC. Can someone help me fix it?
[09:50] <Jordan_U> jpmh: I personally think that it would be more clear, and easier to debug, to use something like the following: pattern="$(some procmail command)"; grep "$pattern" filename
[09:51] <jpmh> Jordan U, that too makes sense
[09:51] <Jordan_U> jpmh: That will only get you one pattern though. If you really want to have multiple patterns, one per line (it sounds like you don't) then the "-f -" solution is better.
[09:52] <Jordan_U> !tab | jpmh
[09:52] <jpmh> Jordan U, I agree, I am liking the -f -f solution and testing that right now
[09:53] <nizar> i found a bug!!!
[09:56] <jpmh> dax, jordan u and mharris - thank you all so much - I get it now - makes a lot of sense, now
[09:56] <Jordan_U> jpmh: You're welcome.
[10:06] <drac0666> Sometimes when im shuting down my PC it hangs on Shutdown logo and i have to manualy press poweroff button on my PC. Can someone help me fix it?
[10:08] <djr013> how do I enable long package descriptions in aptitude? presumably they're no longer downloaded by default, but they seem to work with apt-cache show
[10:17] <ren0v0> Hi, how can i switch a window to another screen from keyboard? i used to do it with alt+tab i thing, but i've just reinstalled and forgot how i did that :D
[10:22] <drac0666> When i turn off my PC it hangs ot "System halted" as last info in terminal but doesnt turn off power how i can fix it?
[10:24] <djr013> drac0666: I don't know any answers to that myself but if you're searching online, "acpi" might be a helpful additional search phrase
[10:26] <mrb101> Hey. I have a really weird problem.. As i can't open facebook.com nor youtube.com for some reason. I am using Google DNS and i tried OpenDNS the same problem persist. I managed to open m.facebook.com though. All other websites works normal. Any suggestions ?
[10:26] <drac0666> djr013, it worked for few days now it stops
[10:35] <jpmh> mrb101 have you tried a dig facebook.com?
[10:36] <jpmh> mrb101 also have you been able to access other sites that switch to https, as those two do?
[10:37] <mrb101> hmm. can't access it with https no
[10:39] <mrb101> jpmh, and i can even ping normally
[10:39] <jpmh> mrb101, so you can not access any site that uses https?
[10:40] <mrb101> jpmh, I can't access all websites using Https or Http. Only 2 websites i can't access are youtube and facebook
[10:40] <mrb101> sorry i can access All website except of facebook and youtube
[10:41] <mrb101> i have managed to access the mobile version of facebook at m.facebook.com
[10:41] <mrb101> The same problem is on any Android phone on the same network as well
[10:42] <mrb101> my friends using windows desktops are able to access them normally
[10:42] <jpmh> mrb, so the network is blocking them, use a vpn or TOR, or something of the type
[10:44] <mrb101> Yeah i believe the router have some weird settings. But i was wondering how come Windows based devices can actually access it
[10:45] <djr013> mrb101: have you tried disabling ipv6?
[10:45] <mrb101> djr013,  i did in about:config in firefox. yes
[10:46] <Jordan_U> mrb101: You were asked earlier but didn't give a clear answer, are there any https sites that you *can* access?
[10:46] <mrb101> Jordan_U, Yes, Google
[10:48] <hiexpo> sounds like a user prob to me
[10:48] <mrb101> and thats dig facebook result http://pastebin.com/PZGhhA9S
[10:48] <Jordan_U> mrb101: What error message do you get from your browser when you try to access http://youtube.com ?
[10:48] <tete_> hi, can someone tell me if i need a /boot partition when using UEFI? i created a efi boot partition (200mb) and now i am wondering how this should work when i use a software-raid 6 and system encryption with luks
[10:49] <jushur> mrb101: you have restarted your router?
[10:49] <tete_> because .. where is the kernel located if no /boot partition is created - so i guess i need it, but i am not 100% sure because i read somewhere all files are stored inside the efi boot partition to boot?
[10:50] <jushur> tete_: if you made no partition for /boot its on / as the "dir" /boot
[10:50] <tete_> jushur, thats the point. do i need /boot when using UEFI and mdraid and luks?
[10:51] <hiexpo> tete_,  /dir
[10:51] <bishops> Has anyone noticed the libreoffice gtk3 theme has a few problems?
[10:52] <hiexpo> bishops, what problems?
[10:52] <tete_> hiexpo ?
[10:52] <tete_> jushur i know, but what is when using mdraid and luks, is the kernel stored inside the efi boot partition? i dont think so ..?
[10:52] <bishops> hiexpo: it give a black theme for the toolbars and one has to use highcontrast icons. and the scroll up and down is a bit buggy
[10:53] <hiexpo> bishops, i will have to check that out
[10:54] <bishops> hiexpo: thanks, i'm using ubuntu 15.10
[10:54] <djr013> tete_: you'll need something to boot from if your root partition is encrypted, yes
[10:54] <tete_> djr013, thanks, thats what i thought
[10:54] <hiexpo> okay bishops
[10:54] <djr013> I'm not sure if 200 MB will be enough though, make sure you double check that
[10:55] <hiexpo> 325
[10:55] <Jordan_U> tete_: Some distributions mount the EFI System Partition to /boot/ instead of /boot/efi/ but Ubuntu's default, and upstream grub's recommendation, is to have the ESP mounted to /boot/efi/. So for a LUKS encrypted root, I would strongly recommend both an EFI System Partition and a separate /boot/ partition.
[10:55] <djr013> Ubuntu tends to accumulate kernel versions, keeping old versions in case of bugs
[10:56] <tete_> djr013, recommendation from ubuntu is 200mb
[10:56] <tete_> required: 100mb, recommended: 200mb - but windows uses a lot more
[10:56] <tete_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[10:56] <tete_> Size: minimum 100Mib. 200MiB recommended.
[10:56] <tete_> should i use 300? or even more?
[10:58] <Jordan_U> tete_: 200 Mib is fine for an ESP, but I would recommend 1 GiB for /boot/ unless you're particularly low on disk space.
[10:58] <Lencl> hello
[10:58] <djr013> tete_: /boot/efi partitions can be pretty small, but /boot partitions are larger
[10:58] <tete_> i know, i would use 1gb for /boot because of different kernel versions during updates etc.
[10:58] <Lencl> by default, can regular users do System V IPC?
[10:58] <tete_> thanks for the help :)
[11:02] <tete_> one last question: should the esp also be raid'ed ? or should i create this on each disk outside of the raid array?
[11:04] <Jordan_U> tete_: It cannot be RAIDed because it needs to be read by the boot firmware. You could create an ESP on each drive but honestly right now there's no standard way to keep redundant ESPs and it's a pain to keep it redundant manually.
[11:04] <drac0666> My system hangs on "reboot: system halted" and doesnt wont to turn off - i have tryed acpi=off and acpi=force in /etc/default/grub. Any ideas?
[11:05] <tete_> Jordan_U, so installing the ESP on each drive and if one fails, rebuild the array and install the ESP manually?
[11:06] <moonlitv> hi all new to weechat can anyone direct me to a newbie guide ?
[11:06] <cfhowlett> !manual | moonlitv
[11:07] <moonlitv> thank you
[11:07] <cfhowlett> !fcm | moonlitv
[11:07] <Jordan_U> tete_: The problem is that you need a UEFI boot entry for each ESP, so you would need to use efibootmgr manually (or write your own script to do it automatically).
[11:07] <moonlitv> !manual
[11:08] <tete_> ok, i will read the man about efibootmgr, guess thats not such a big thing
[11:08] <tete_> thanks
[11:09] <Jordan_U> tete_: Alternately, you could run "sudo grub-install --removable" and then simply rsync the contents of your primary /boot/efi/ to the other ESPs (because --removable uses the default paths for removable media, so that no UEFI Boot Entry is needed).
[11:09] <Jordan_U> tete_: Either way, you'll need to do this every time there is a grub upgrade.
[11:10] <tete_> why do i have to do this after each grup upgrade?
[11:11] <Jordan_U> tete_: Because each time grub is upgraded the package will re-run grub-install, but that will only update the one ESP that is mounted to /boot/efi/.
[11:12] <tete_> hm ok, thats confusing because the installer installed grub to all devices (last time i installed...) - but that was the mini.iso for 16.04
[11:12] <tete_> but i guess i can write a small script which does that
[11:12] <tete_> and i was using bios boot... ok i will check that, thanks for the info
[11:13] <Jordan_U> tete_: grub-pc, for BIOS Based Systems, allows you to specify any number of install devices where grub's boot sector can be installed. grub-efi has no such option.
[11:14] <Jordan_U> tete_: And to be clear, it's ubuntu's packaging for the package called "grub-pc" that handles the multiple drives, by calling grub-install multiple times.
[11:20] <ren0v0> Hi, how can i switch a window to another screen from keyboard? i used to do it with alt+tab i thing, but i've just reinstalled and forgot how i did that :D
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> !hotkeys | ren0v0 can this help?
[11:22] <ren0v0> lotuspsychje, i don't think so, i didn't see anything there about moving window to another screen, do you know where it is ?
[11:23] <ren0v0> and lotuspsychje offtopic to that question, i think you linked me to the daily build the other day and we wondered why standard ubuntu wasn't build as an image release. Turns out that daily build was MATE!! wtf?
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> ren0v0: ?
[11:25] <ren0v0> maybe i got nicks messed up, was in ubuntu+1 yesterday, ignore what i said if it wasn't you :D
[11:27] <Tin_man> ren0v0 try this link
[11:27] <Tin_man> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[11:27] <Tin_man> ctrl+alt+tab
[11:29] <sailendra> hello there
[11:29] <ren0v0> Tin_man, yea it was something like that, but it doesn't work now..
[11:30] <Tin_man> hmmm, don't know then..
[11:30] <sailendra> i am using ubuntu 15.10 the probelm is when ever i run any application my cpu usage goes to 95-100% and cpu fan is too much noisy
[11:31] <Tin_man> works on mine
[11:31] <Tin_man> i'm on mate right now though
[11:31] <sailendra> is there any solution for this i have tried many solution found on internet but none of them works correctly
[11:31] <phenomenon> Hi, I have a Asus F302LA (intel graphics) and I have tried the normal fixes for brightness buttons and brightness at max when restarting. And touchpad not working after suspend. I'm running Ubuntu atm. Is there any patch or anything else i can try? Maybe 15.10?
[11:33] <madjoe> when I set my cron with "sudo crontab -e" on a daily basis (say at midnight) - will it act as anacrontab (in case the computer was off, will it trigger on the next boot?)
[11:36] <j4son> phenomenon: I added 'acpi_osi=' to my GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT which fixed at least the button issues, not sure on the touchpad
[11:37] <phenomenon> j4son, I have tried that. Did not make it work.
[11:38] <phenomenon> I have done a update on bios as well
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> phenomenon: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and hibernate/come back maybe it will spit out some usefull errors
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> !cron | madjoe
[11:43] <phenomenon> lotuspsychje, thanks, ill try that
[11:43] <phenomenon> brb
[11:46] <mjoelner> What is the command to send a new temp password to your email?
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> mjoelner: join #freenode please mate
[11:47] <Myrtti> mjoelner: sendpass
[11:54] <mas886> Help, I deleted python and now I can't open .deb files.
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> mas886: ubuntu version?
[11:56] <mas886> 15.10
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> mas886: wich python did you install?
[11:58] <Tin_man> mas886 might take a look at this link
[11:58] <Tin_man> http://askubuntu.com/questions/218919/i-accidentally-deleted-usr-bin-python-how-do-i-restore-it
[11:58] <mas886> I uninstalled it though software center.
[11:59] <Tin_man> just reinstall it
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> mas886: can you still rightmouse click your .deb file and 'open with software center'
[12:00] <mas886> I can't find it in the program list
[12:00] <mas886> it's weird.
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> mas886: sudo apt-get install python
[12:01] <mas886> Already installed.
[12:01] <mas886> I reinstalled it though software center.
[12:02] <Tin_man> case closed :)
[12:02] <mas886> Case closed no.
[12:02] <mas886> I still can't open a deb file.
[12:02] <Tin_man> i'm outta here. good luck..
[12:04] <mas886> Really? anything?
[12:04] <mjoelner> Great you cant send to freenode unless you are identified, thats great when you forgot your pw and asked about it!
[12:04] <mjoelner> want to ask about it
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> !patience | mas886
[12:06] <phenomenon> lotuspsychje, im not really sure what im looking for atm. Should it spell out "ERROR!"? Im guessing not =) One thing that caught my eye was stuff like this: ehci-pci 0000:00:1d.0: System wakeup disabled by ACPI
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> phenomenon: yeah acpi errors like that
[12:10] <Quantos> Hey guys, my internal HDD keeps powering down and going to sleep
[12:10] <Quantos> I've been looking for a way to keep it going, but no go
[12:10] <Quantos> 14.20
[12:10] <Quantos> 14.10 even
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> Quantos: 14.10 is end of life
[12:12] <phenomenon> lotuspsychje, then i have: ehci-pci 0000:00:1d.0: System wakeup disabled by ACPI | pcieport 0000:00:1c.2: System wakeup disabled by ACPI | xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: System wakeup disabled by ACPI | rtc_cmos 00:04: System wakeup disabled by ACPI | A few lines of this: xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: xHCI xhci_drop_endpoint called with disabled ep ffff8800b36d0200
[12:12] <phenomenon> i might have missed some
[12:13] <Quantos> So
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> phenomenon: doublechecked bios settings?
[12:13] <Quantos> I don't care that it's EOL, I want my internal SATA HDD to work
[12:14] <phenomenon> What should I check for? Is there a powersave setting that I should prefer?
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> Quantos: we cant help on eol versions
[12:14] <Quantos> It just dawned on me, I think I have the version wrong
[12:14] <Quantos> How do I double check it?
[12:14]  * Quantos has just woken up
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> Quantos: lsb_release -a
[12:15] <Quantos> 15.10
[12:15] <Quantos> Hehehe
[12:15] <Quantos> Ooops
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> phenomenon: you can ask the ##hardware guys about acpi bios settings
[12:16] <phenomenon> lotuspsychje, thanks, ill do that =)
[12:16] <error_> posso chiedere una cosa?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> !it | error_
[12:16] <error_> Can I ask one thing?
[12:17] <error_> I know also English lol
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> error_: if its about ubuntu, sure
[12:17] <phenomenon> lotuspsychje, i cant send message in that channel.
[12:17] <error_> then, I wanted use nmap
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> !register | phenomenon
[12:17] <error_> but the terminal say me that i must be root
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> error_: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[12:18] <phenomenon> Thanks =)
[12:18] <error_> the last version
[12:18] <error_> how to i exit from full screen with hexchat?
[12:18] <bekks> error_: And which is that?
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> error_: you dont need to be root for using nmap
[12:18] <error_> but i
[12:18] <error_> 2 secondi
[12:19] <error_> second*
[12:19] <error_> error@errror:~$ nmap -sS -O 37.187.175.49
[12:19] <error_> You requested a scan type which requires root privileges.
[12:19] <error_> QUITTING!
[12:19] <scalper> hey
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> !sudo | error_
[12:19] <scalper> i want to add a configuration but i have no /etc/apache2/conf.d/ directory
[12:20] <scalper> i have inside my howto a step to add /etc/apache2/conf.d/ruby.conf
[12:20] <scalper> what dir i need to place it in? i have ubuntu
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> scaldwel_: maybe the ##httpd guys might know?
[12:20] <scalper> apache2.conf is in /etc/apache2/
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> scalper: ^
[12:21] <scalper> lotuspsychje: iḿ already there but they don't answer
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:41] <shubbar> trying to compile webcam driver but getting error  fatal error: media/video-buf.h: No such file or directory
[12:41] <shubbar> what am i missing?
[12:43] <bekks> shubbar: Thats just a single line, from whatever you are doing there. Can you please pastebin the entire out, along with the ubuntu version you are using, and along with naming your hardware  which you are trying to compile something for.
[12:47] <arash> this new version is awesome
[12:48] <arash> I have 1 question though, does skype work now?
[12:48] <k1l_> arash: skype is in the partner repo
[12:48] <bekks> arash: How does that help you solving an actual issue? :)
[12:48] <k1l_> !skype | arash
[12:49] <arash> k1l_ I was just curious, there were news about skype problems all over the net
[12:49] <k1l_> arash: and if skype doesnt work please report to microsoft then. because its closed source from microsoft there is nothing ubuntu/linux can do
[12:49] <akik> arash: the problem is microsoft not updating it
[12:50] <k1l_> arash: just test it if it works for you. i dont use skype.
[12:50] <arash> I know
[12:50] <arash> thanks guys
[12:50] <arash> are there any open-source alternatives?
[12:50] <arash> to call from pc to land/mobile lines?
[12:51] <CoolRabbit> hello
[12:56] <apatters> I use Skype daily on Ubuntu and haven't had any problems yet.
[13:02] <ddybing> Hi. May I ask questions about Ubuntu Server here?
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> ddybing  let's hear it, in one line ... but there's also #ubuntu-server
[13:24] <Winowa2> hi anyone around
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> Winowa2  type /names
[13:25] <Winowa2> Cool haha
[13:25] <dracnoc> Yes, just about ...
[13:26] <Winowa2> i am kind of a pinch . What i did was uopgraded my Nvidia Driver on ubunutu, i was then stuck in a login page loop. Where even the passowrd is correct i would return to the log in page
[13:26] <Winowa2> I read around its most likely that the Xorg failed
[13:26] <Winowa2> so i messed around and mistakenly edited something with light dm
[13:26] <Winowa2> now i no longer have a gui only comamnd line left
[13:27] <Winowa2> i tried to purge light dm fully and reisntalled but i cant
[13:28] <phenomenon> Now I have tried to do the 10_touchpad fix (case "${1}" in ...and so on) with my touchpad but it didn't work. I've been to #hardware but no solution there.
[13:28] <phenomenon> ..after suspend
[13:28] <phenomenon> Any more tips?
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> phenomenon  start from the beginning, ubuntu version, what goes wrong etc
[13:30] <phenomenon> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. Touchpad not working after suspend.
[13:30] <phenomenon> Asus F302La
[13:30] <SumTingWong1> the steam client and all my steam games freezes every 2 seconds? :O
[13:31] <SumTingWong1> pls halp
[13:31] <Team24North> hi @ll
[13:32] <phenomenon> I have tried the script thing with 10_touchpad, adding atkbd.reset to grub. Checked power save settings in bios. Updated bios.
[13:33] <Team24North>  HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 4.2.0-30-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4010U CPU @ 1.70GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,70GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3,6GB, 65,7% free ** Disk: Total: 454,7GB, 93,1% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI1: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: 645 NetXtreme BCM57786 Gigabit
[13:33] <Team24North> Ethernet PCIe ** Uptime: 10h 41m 42s **
[13:35] <phenomenon> MonkeyDust, any suggestions ?
[13:39] <suraj> HI
[13:40] <Team24North> hi
[13:40] <dracnoc> Um... Hello :)
[13:41] <phenomenon> Filename in the sleep.d folder, 0000trackpad or 10_touchpad ?
[13:41] <MrDoctor> Is a reboot necessary after disabling apparmor?
[13:43] <phenomenon> ganna try some other stuff out. bbl
[13:43] <ioanm> hi guys
[13:44] <ioanm> i need help, in libreoffice 4.2.8.2 I see artifacts in the edit->preferences and in the toolbar
[13:44] <CoolRabbit> MrDoctor, yes ... as it is kernel implemented
[13:44] <ioanm> it is not the graphics card
[13:44] <MrDoctor> Oh, okay CoolRabbit.
[13:44] <MrDoctor> Thanks.
[13:44] <CoolRabbit> ioanm, upgrade to a newer LibO
[13:44] <CoolRabbit> ioanm, 4.2 is ancient
[13:45] <ioanm> and this issue appeared in ubuntu 14.04.4 and wasn't in .3
[13:45] <ioanm> CoolRabbit: i like to use LTS :)
[13:45] <CoolRabbit> I use 14.04 in LTS but run the 5.0 LibO ppa ... works like a charm
[13:46] <ioanm> CoolRabbit: and does the main repo have an update planned?
[13:46] <CoolRabbit> ioanm, look for LibreOffice 5-0 ppa in google
[13:46] <CoolRabbit> ioanm, for LTS ? not that I am aware of ... you'll have to wait for the 16.04 update
[13:47] <ioanm> CoolRabbit: when does that come?
[13:47] <ioanm> soon i hope
[13:47] <ioanm> what about willy?
[13:48] <ioanm> 2 months!
[13:50] <CoolRabbit> ioanm, LibO 5.0 is in the 5ersion now 5.0.5 version now ... very stable and conservative.
[13:51] <ioanm> CoolRabbit: thank you
[13:56] <CoolRabbit> ioanm, ;)
[13:57] <ioanm> but I think i'll stay with the OS i'm right now on :)
[13:58] <smashlink> I'm having trouble trying to install two packages that depend on different versions of another package. Anyone knows what solution there is to this? I couldn't find information about this online. (specifically, it's the packages libboost-locale1.54-dev and libboost-filesystem1.54-dev that depend on libboost1.54-dev=1.54.0-4ubuntu3 and libboost1.54-dev=1.54.0-4ubuntu3.1 respectively)
[14:00] <CoolRabbit> smashlink, just do a apt install libboost-locale.54.dev libboost-filesystem1.54-dev and let the apt program sor t it out
[14:10] <Silenced> Putting my laptop to suspend mode , shuts it down these days. What would be the problem ? . OS: Ubuntu 15.10
[14:11] <smashlink> CoolRabbit, I have tried but it will keep on saying the -locale one has unmet dependencies (I installed the -filesystem one previously specifying the version)
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> Silenced: check your syslog or dmesg, might spit out some acpi issues
[14:14] <phenomenon> Hardware: Asus F302La, intel graphic, i5, 8GB ram. Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. After suspend touchpad is gone, not in devices. Any tips? I have tried adding 10_touchpad and 0000trackpad with two diffrent scrips. Made them executable. I have tried adding stuff (on page on the net had it as an solution from 2009) to the grub. Ive been to #hardware and talked to them.
[14:15] <phenomenon> Build my own kernal?
[14:16] <CoolRabbit> phenomenon, why?
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> phenomenon: try several ubuntu versions first
[14:17] <phenomenon> lotuspsychje, like the 15 one? or older ones?
[14:17] <smashlink> CoolRabbit, I have tried but it will keep on saying the -locale one has unmet dependencies (I installed the -filesystem one previously specifying the version)
[14:17] <phenomenon> CoolRabbit, cant get the stuff working...
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> phenomenon: yeah you can try 15.10 and 16.04 daily image, to see if acpi issues are persistent there also
[14:17] <CoolRabbit> smashlink, uninstall -flesystem and try again
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> phenomenon: if they are, file a new bug
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> !bug | phenomenon
[14:18] <smashlink> Still the same
[14:18] <phenomenon> lotuspsychje,  thanks. Ill try it and if its the same with them ill file a bug report.
[14:20] <C0r3> I have downloaded the ubuntu gnome image from the official download link, but then I'm facing installation error when I tried installing it using both CDROM and bootable USB.
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> C0r3: wich ubuntu version are you on right now?
[14:20] <CoolRabbit> C0r3, whats the error?
[14:20] <C0r3> Input Output error
[14:21] <C0r3> lotuspsychje: I downloaded Ubuntu 14.04.3 iso image. And I'm using Ubuntu 15.10 unity
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> C0r3: can you tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin usb in and pastebin us the output after?
[14:22] <C0r3> And yes, I also lost all my data too. Is there any way that I can get my data back?? I lost my partitions too.
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> C0r3: if the hardware isnt broken, data recover can be possible
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | C0r3 sudo photorec after install
[14:23] <C0r3> lotuspsychje: I can provide you the syslog. I formatted the bootable usb and installed 15.10 back again.
[14:24] <C0r3> lotuspsychje: I was looking at gddrescue. How about it?
[14:25] <C0r3> This is the second time I came across 'Installation Failed' error while installing ubuntu. Once with Kubuntu and now with Ubuntu GNOME. Is there a specific reason why this occurs??
[14:25] <CoolRabbit> C0r3, maybe some component conflict?
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> C0r3: we need to findout if your usb is still good first, and logs
[14:26] <CoolRabbit> C0r3, did the PhotoRec and got lots of files back ... next time partition your /home in a new partition.
[14:26] <vincent42> hi all, is it me or , when I have several X session and I switch between them, all processes of previous sessions are paused ?
[14:26] <vincent42> for example; I ajhve clementine playing music, it pauses when I switch to another X session
[14:26] <C0r3> lotuspsychje: I tried with writing ISO to a disk (CD ROM)
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> CoolRabbit: +1
[14:27] <CoolRabbit> vincent42, are you sure you are changing sessions and not Workspaces?
[14:29] <vincent42> CoolRabbit: err, I mea, xorg session
[14:29] <C0r3> CoolRabbit: Actually, I have 4 partitions. One is a primary partition, sda2 and sda3 is 190GiB and 210GiB drives which are NOT auto mounted and the final is for swap. When I tried installing Ubuntu GNOME I lost all my partitions and it left me with just 2 partitions, one was primary and another was swap. So, I re-partitioned everything and installed 15.10 back.
[14:29] <vincent42> changing VT
[14:30] <CoolRabbit> vincent42, never repartition... just install on the existing partitions and put the new / folder on top of the old ones
[14:31] <smashlink> Any other ideas of how to deal with packages requiring two different versions of the same package?
[14:31] <CoolRabbit> vincent42, I have never formatted my /home drive for more than 10 years
[14:32] <CoolRabbit> smashlink, file a bug on the package that does NOT accept the newer versions of dependencies.
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | smashlink
[14:32] <vincent42> CoolRabbit: I'm not C0r3
[14:32] <vincent42> :à
[14:32] <vincent42> :)
[14:33] <vincent42> anyway; nobody noticed that Steam (for games) or clementine got paused when they change VT ?
[14:33] <CoolRabbit> vincent42, sorry;)
[14:33] <vincent42> that(s really weird
[14:33] <vincent42> didn't use to be like this
[14:37] <tflgen2> hi, has anyone else tried to use cpu model = host-passthrough using libvirt and virt-manager on a ubuntu host?
[14:37] <C0r3> CoolRabbit: Okay... I was confused!! :P
[14:39] <C0r3> CoolRabbit: Actually, I never meant to format the other partitions. I tried installing GNOME several times and in one try I ended up selecting the option "Erase Ubuntu 15.10 and Install Ubuntu GNOME 14.04". And I lost my partitions/data.
[14:40] <CoolRabbit> C0r3, there is a differene in losing your partitions and the data in them...
[14:40] <CoolRabbit> if you did install OVER the data it maybe lost
[14:41] <CoolRabbit> PhotoRec will try to help find hat lost data ... I use to use it with a external USB running SystemRestoe
[14:42] <C0r3> CoolRabbit: I repartitioned it after it messed my partitions. Can I get my data back?
[14:43] <CoolRabbit> C0r3, should try ...
[14:43] <CoolRabbit> see you guys !!
[14:46] <milkshake> hello i just wonder how to type # this character in us keyboard.i am using this keyboard newly.so i need help
[14:46] <milkshake> I am using ubuntu-mate
[14:46] <milkshake> I tried shift3
[14:47] <milkshake> but it gave me £
[14:48] <C0r3> What keyboard you are using??
[14:48] <muzamil> hi everyone
[14:48] <adrian_1908> milkshake: doesn't the US keyboard have it on the 3, i.e. SHIFT-3 ?
[14:48] <milkshake> it says English-English(US)
[14:50] <C0r3> milkshake: Go to settings and see the 'Text Entry' in 'Keyboard'.
[14:53] <adrian_1908> C0r3: Where the keyboard is from doesn't matter so long the layout is set correctly in software, right? I.e. it could be an French keyboard but if the setting in the OS is en_US, the keys should behave as such?
[14:54] <C0r3> adrian_1908: Exactly!
[14:54] <C0r3> I was asking the layout!
[14:55] <C0r3> adrian_1908: I was actually asking him to have a look at the 'Keyboard Layout Chart'.
[14:55] <adrian_1908> Yeah I see, I was just asking in general for future reference.
[15:01] <madjoe> Hi! I was just locked out from my login screen rejecting my password after a wakeup from a suspend.
[15:01] <phenomenon> lotuspsychje, im back in 15.10 now, full install. Same problem with the touchpad. What should I try first before doing the bug report? Go trough all the fixes again?
[15:02] <madjoe> could someone check the default ownership of "/etc/gshadow-" and "/etc/hadow-" please? Thanks!
[15:03] <ouroumov_> It's root, madjoe
[15:03] <madjoe> I've got root:root and I suspect it should be root:shadow
[15:03] <ouroumov_> No it's root:root
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> phenomenon: no, file the bug togheter with your syslog,dmesg and the full story
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> phenomenon: mentioning you experience this on several ubuntu versions
[15:03] <oneindelijk> madjoe: Ik vae root:shadow
[15:03] <oneindelijk> *have*
[15:04] <SohamG> Hey guys, I tried ubuntu through the live iso on an old laptop(2.0Ghz celeron, 1GB RAM, GeForce 7400m graphics), and it was very slow. WinXP runs perfectly on the laptop. Will ubuntu be as slow if I install it as it was in the live usb?
[15:04] <madjoe> ouroumov_: did you try to suspend your Ubuntu and login back again?
[15:04] <madjoe> oneindelijk: hmmm... what's the default then?
[15:04] <oneindelijk> SohamG: It will be faster when run from HD
[15:04] <ouroumov_> madjoe, no and I won't. That said I'm running Ubuntu MATE not vanilla
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> SohamG: 1gig is bit low for smooth unity
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> SohamG: can you upgrade the ram a bit? or install lubuntu/xubuntu
[15:05] <madjoe> oneindelijk: could you please try with "ls -al /etc/*shadow*"
[15:05] <oneindelijk> madjoe: This is the full result -rw-r----- 1 root shadow 1017 Feb 25 15:08 /etc/gshadow
[15:05] <Administrator__> hello
[15:06] <oneindelijk> madjoe: -rw-r----- 1 root shadow 1017 Feb 25 15:08 /etc/gshadow
[15:06] <oneindelijk> -rw------- 1 root root   1005 Jan  9 03:13 /etc/gshadow-
[15:06] <oneindelijk> -rw-r----- 1 root shadow 1566 Feb 25 15:08 /etc/shadow
[15:06] <oneindelijk> -rw------- 1 root root   1566 Feb 25 15:08 /etc/shadow-
[15:06] <ouroumov_> SohamG, you should look toward using Lubuntu or Xubuntu
[15:06] <madjoe> oneindelijk: it's root:root, just the same as I have
[15:06] <UserBen> Is there a way to use grub-mkconfig without having linux installed. I want a base config file generated so i can manually add enteries to boot ISO images off the disk
[15:06] <Christian87> i would like to make passwordless backups using rsync with a server where the home directory is encrypted
[15:06] <oneindelijk> UserBen: With a live cd
[15:07] <Christian87> I exchanged the keys but rsync still asked for a pw
[15:07] <ouroumov_> madjoe, I've sometimes experienced login problems but they were due to keyboard layout. (ie I'm using French layout and fsr the password entry was using US layout)
[15:07] <Christian87> user on the server that needs backup is root and on the remote server the user ist lets say backupuser
[15:07] <UserBen> oneindelijk: yes but grub-mkconfig looks for where linux is installed, if it cant find a linux installed partition it fails with "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'."
[15:07] <Christian87> both runing ubuntut 14.04
[15:07] <madjoe> anyone have two keyboards installed (english + other language), so he could test to suspend his Ubuntu 15.10 and then try to login? I'm getting incorrect passwords no matter what I try.
[15:08] <oneindelijk> UserBen: You want to make a separate boot partition ?
[15:08] <madjoe> ouroumov_: I also have two keyboards and no matter which keyboard I choose, letters for my passwords are at the same position on my keyboard
[15:09] <ouroumov_> Oh
[15:09] <oneindelijk> UserBen: I mean, it would be the same procedure
[15:10] <ouroumov_> madjoe, and you're not using special non-ascii chars either ?
[15:10] <madjoe> ouroumov_: no, no special chars for my Ubuntu passwd... I tried fiddling with caps-lock - no go
[15:11] <UserBen> oneindelijk: i want to install grub on my EFI ESP partition, i did that using grub-install, now i want to generate a config file using grub-mkconfig. but it fails because i dont have any linux distros installed
[15:11] <ouroumov_> madjoe, login fails on tty1 too? (CRTL + ALT + F1, then CTRL + ALT + F7 to comme back to gui)
[15:11] <madjoe> ouroumov_: I had to shut down my pc and when I logged in from a fresh start, everything was ok
[15:12] <madjoe> ouroumov_: I just tried it... everything seems normal.. my passwd works... it only doesn't work when ubuntu was suspended
[15:12] <ouroumov_> madjoe, can you reproduce the issue?
[15:13] <phenomenon> lotuspsychje, okay. Ill try to fill the report with all i got =) Thanks for the help
[15:13] <_arktos_> ourroumov : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword <---- try "The Other Way"
[15:13] <madjoe> ouroumov_: will do.. I'll be back in 10min.
[15:13] <oneindelijk> UserBen: IC, maybe you need to define a custom entry first ?
[15:13] <_arktos_> ouroumov : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword <---- try "The Other Way"
[15:14] <ouroumov_> _arktos_, why? This is not a lost password issue. This is a "login system not working after suspend" issue
[15:14] <_arktos_> hat same issue with suspend... issuing a complete now pass soved it for me
[15:14] <oneindelijk> UserBen: I use aconfig file on my USB stick that I re-use without using grub-mkconfig
[15:14] <_arktos_> *solved
[15:15] <UserBen> oneindelijk: is there a way to generate a grubconfig file 0 menu enteries? am i right in thinking that grub.cfg contains all grub settings not just menu enteries right?
[15:15] <oneindelijk> UserBen: I simply change the names of the ISO files I put on the stick. Would this approach work for you ?
[15:15] <moonlit1> 1
[15:17] <phenomenon> lotuspsychje, im trying my best here. Do you know what package it belongs to?
[15:17] <UserBen> oneindelijk: i am sorry i am unsure of what you are saying? are you suggesting i just write a grub.cfg and not use grub-mkconfig?
[15:18] <C0r3> /quit/win3
[15:18] <oneindelijk> UserBen: I think it should work with very basic entries, I'm not sure, I'm trying to find the grub.cfg file I use on my stick
[15:20] <madjoe> ouroumov_: Confirmed! I could reproduce this issue again. Suspend your Ubuntu, wake it up, enter your passwd (dosn't work: Incorrect password), change the keyboard (doesn't work again: Incorrect password), try to suspend Ubuntu (doesn't work either). This could be a bug!
[15:20] <UserBen> oneindelijk: i am going to try and create a custom menu entry like you said. if that does not work i guess i could just install linux setup grub and delete it. I wanted to use grub-mkconfig so i could see the file it generates and use that as a base for booting live iso images
[15:20] <ouroumov_> madjoe, did you try switching to tty1?
[15:20] <madjoe> I didn't have such issue *before* the upgrade to 15.10
[15:20] <madjoe> ouroumov_: I did. My password works normally there.
[15:21] <ouroumov_> madjoe, from tty1 try and kill the screen locker
[15:21] <phenomenon> brb
[15:21] <madjoe> ouroumov_: could you rephrase?
[15:23] <ouroumov_> madjoe, the screen is locked by a program, something like "xscreensaver" but it varies from flavor to flavor of Ubuntu, can you find out which one you're using, then reproduce, then while under tty1 type "killall <programname>" then switch back to tty7 and see if you're back into your session?
[15:24] <ouroumov_> madjoe, when you find out which program fails to accept your password you can file a bug against it.
[15:30] <oneindelijk> UserBen: Sorry, disconnected
[15:30] <oneindelijk> UserBen: You could start with the grub.cfg from the iso found in /boot/grub and modify that
[15:31] <UserBen> oneindelijk: it ok i was off google stuff anyway. i added a custom menu entry but if i try and run grub-mkconfig i get the error "grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'." does that mean grub-probe is looking for a linux install and failing cus it cant find it?
[15:33] <UserBen> oneindelijk: there is no grub.cfg inside of /boot/grub i am currently booting from a live dvd. Should it be there?
[15:33] <UserBen> oneindelijk: let me check in the iso file
[15:36] <madjoe> ouroumov_: Ubuntu 15.10 has some serious issues with this... pm-hibernate doesn't work because of pulseaudio daemon not running, suspend has issues with passwords... am using vanilla Ubuntu 15.10
[15:41] <veva_88> !list
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> !vpn
[15:49] <phenomenon> After a bug report how long does it normal take for a fix? (I know it's a hard question because of loads of different factors). But a week? month? half a year?
[15:49] <oneindelijk> UserBen: Any progress ?
[15:50] <oneindelijk> UserBen: (My connection keeps dropping)
[15:54] <slipky> hello, im having this problem on ubuntu 15.10: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15231194/ . An application hangs, then i try to kill -9 it and nothing happens.
[16:07] <gertS> slipky maybe you're not the owner. Try sudo'ing the command.
[16:11] <slipky> gertS: same thing
[16:28] <anonymous_> hi
[16:35] <dioioib> I have an issue with gnome after installing a driver. My gdm keeps strobing and I have to drop to shell and stop gdm. Anyone know what I might do to rebuild gdm, etc?
[16:48] <creyc> i know its pretty useful for a desktop install, but do virtualbox guest additions really do anything for a 14.04 server install?
[16:50] <Broekmans> test
[16:53] <dracnoc> creyc: i think it only helps with folder sharing, the biggest benefit to guest additions is graphics - which of course the server edition doesn't need to worry about
[16:54] <creyc> that was kind of my thoughts, haven't really been able to find documentation otherwise
[16:56] <daftykins> creyc: i'd say it's an unjustified attack vector for a server
[16:56] <daftykins> sometimes virt tech components can be exploited, so it depends if you run any external services
[16:56] <dracnoc> there probably isn't a lot of coverage on it simply because guest additions doesn't really do anything to server edition.
[16:56] <creyc> ill try without them
[16:56] <creyc> thanks
[17:01] <webigor> hi
[17:04] <Azus> igor d'osgor cherche pas ta tort
[17:04] <Azus> hi webigor
[17:04] <elJodidoCupido> holaa buenas a todos/as, alguien sabria decirme como puedo configurar el gestor de correo geary? soy nuevo en linux y no sé como se hace, no me entra la cuenta gmail.
[17:06] <k1l_> !es | elJodidoCupido
[17:07] <elJodidoCupido> graciass
[17:12] <webigor> W
[17:13] <rem505> hello, is sha256 a program?
[17:13] <plytro> no but sha256sum is
[17:15] <rem505> pyltro I'm using windows.  I got the code thing and the iso, i just need to check it.
[17:16] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | rem505
[17:16] <wawos> server / irc.relaxedirc.net
[17:16] <wawos> server/irc.relaxedirc.net
[17:17] <rem505> ok im a bit lost, i did search and found an online checker but it said the file was 2 big
[17:17] <rem505> im just asking if its a prog I can d/l
[17:17] <Bashing-om> rem505:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows ??
[17:17] <wawos> server /irc.relaxedirc.net
[17:17] <wawos> server/irc.relaxedirc.net
[17:17] <rem505> Bashing: im trying the sha thing
[17:18] <wawos> server/irc.relaxedirc.net
[17:18] <wawos> server/irc.relaxedirc.net
[17:19] <k1l_> wawos: please use the server window for such tasks and dont spam this channel
[17:19] <wawos> excuse me
[17:20] <linuxlove> hello
[17:21] <malprxctice> Anybody experienced with AP hotspot in 14.04 LTS?
[17:22] <linuxlove> i have bought a domain but i dont see an option to connect my ip to my ubuntu server
[17:22] <linuxlove> what should i do?
[17:23] <k1l_> linuxlove: on the domain selling company set the domain to point to your ip.
[17:24] <linuxlove> k1l_, i saw this option but when i enter my site khoonehbazar.ir to my ip i get error
[17:25] <linuxlove> it says you can enter domain that you have choosen
[17:26] <k1l_> linuxlove: on some services it takes some time. up to 24h
[17:27] <daftykins> malprxctice: a public wifi pay for service, or something else?
[17:28] <linuxlove> k1l_, what is glue recoed?
[17:31] <malprxctice> daftykins, no nothing like that just something to connect my phone to
[17:31] <linuxlove> k1l_, my ip on the ubuntu server changes between 2 values i have installed noip2 program and it creates copmatibility with changing in ip
[17:31] <linuxlove> but
[17:33] <k1l_> linuxlove: if you have a dynip, then link to the dynip host. or you make a script that changes the ip on the domain companys record. if they have an api for that.
[17:33] <linuxlove> i k1l_ i live at iran
[17:34] <linuxlove> k1l_, i dunno companies here can do it for me
[17:35] <linuxlove> i have got a free domain from noip.com
[17:36] <linuxlove> but i have no mastercard or pay ways from here in iran
[17:37] <daftykins> malprxctice: so your laptop/desktop computer is already online via something, but you don't have a wifi router... so you want to share wireless from the laptop/desktop ?
[17:37] <malprxctice> Yes. Wired Connection
[17:38] <daftykins> network manager can do that i think, otherwise you might want to look into 'hostapd'
[17:38] <daftykins> !info hostapd trusty
[17:38] <malprxctice> i do have kde5 network manager
[17:39] <malprxctice> that does this thing but the thing is I can see the network on my phone but cant seem to connect to it even with the right credentials
[17:40] <daftykins> malprxctice: hmm, is it in WPA or WPA2 mode?
[17:40] <malprxctice> WPA2, even tried with WEP but does not work
[17:42] <daftykins> malprxctice: hmm i would suspect it could be trying to convert the key you enter in some form
[17:46] <b0s3d> hi, first time setting up virtualbox on linux: how do i share folders the easy way?
[17:46] <b0s3d> i have read this guide btw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/SharedFolders
[17:46] <b0s3d> but i find it difficult to follow
[17:48] <ToHellWithGA> in gnome desktop i enabled screen sharing, assuming vino, but can only connect locally via vinagre
[17:48] <ToHellWithGA> is there a config file i need to tweak and tune to be able to connect remotely using a generic vnc client?
[17:48] <daftykins> b0s3d: #vbox can be of assistance also, since it's for that software specifically
[17:48] <ToHellWithGA> i attempted to connect from an OS X client, Chicken of the VNC, and it reports "unknown AuthType 18" as its error when connecting
[17:49] <luis> il risveglio della forza
[17:49] <daftykins> !it
[17:49] <SchrodingersScat> b0s3d: in the virtualbox settings you can tell it to link a directory to the vm, and then in the vm I mount the directory with sudo /sbin/mount.vboxsf host_dir_name ~/VM_directory_name
[17:49] <ubuser> hello folks
[17:50] <daftykins> hi
[17:50] <b0s3d> SchrodingersScat: how would host_dir_name look like
[17:50] <b0s3d> ?
[17:50] <ubuser> i am using 16.04, i have an issue and would like to ask something, the issue still happens on 15.10 so i'd like to know if its ok to ask it here ??
[17:51] <SchrodingersScat> b0s3d: whatever it's named on the machine running virtualbox
[17:53] <daftykins> ubuser: 16.04 talk in #ubuntu+1 as it's not out yet, please :)
[17:54] <linuxlove> how can i use from my phone as a GSM modem with datacable on ubuntu?
[17:55] <spinza> linuxlove, probably easier just with bluetooth or wifi sharing?
[17:55] <ubuser> thanks daftykins
[17:56] <linuxlove> spinza, then how can i configure smstools to work with bluetooth or wifi
[17:56] <daftykins> linuxlove: what you're saying is actually wrong, GSM modem = data, not the SMS you wanted the other day ;)
[17:56] <daftykins> still a bad approach though!
[17:57] <linuxlove> spinza, it just now devices in /dev directory
[17:57] <linuxlove> daftykins, i saw it in a link
[17:58] <daftykins> bad link then
[17:58] <linuxlove> daftykins, This tutorial will show you how you can set up an SMS server on Debian with playsms and smstools. In my example I have used an old Nokia 5140i with a USB datacable.
[17:59] <linuxlove> daftykins, is he wrong?
[17:59] <daftykins> that's nice
[17:59] <linuxlove> daftykins, bad link then ?
[17:59] <daftykins> well i'm not going to test to find out for you :)
[17:59] <linuxlove> daftykins, you said bad link
[18:00] <linuxlove> daftykins, why you said this "bad link" while you dont know about that
[18:00] <daftykins> because the terms you are using are incorrect
[18:01] <ubuser> i have a headset (usb) logitech G330, sound works nice, but microphone  does not. it is detected in the control panel but there is no feedback on the orange bars
[18:01] <ubuser> any hint?
[18:01] <ubuser> i've booted into 15.10 and it has the same behaviour
[18:02] <linuxlove> daftykins, i just said how can i use my phone to have a sms server on my ubuntu
[18:03] <linuxlove> on my android phone i just see option for storage and for using internet on laptop
[18:03] <linuxlove> i dont know which should i choose?
[18:03] <daftykins> neither of those are going to give you access to texts - you are going about your entire task 100% wrong
[18:04] <SchrodingersScat> linuxlove: does it have to be sms?  I do fine sending emails to my phone#@carrier.address.com, then it comes up on my phone through a text.
[18:08] <pavlushka> Hi eve1
[18:14] <Valduare> hey guys i got 15.10 here  CANNOT get it to pair with any bluetooth keyboards
[18:14] <Valduare> tried diff bluetooth dongles
[18:14] <Valduare> and even diff bluetooth keyboards
[18:14] <Valduare> fails every time
[18:14] <Valduare> all the hardware works fine on other versions
[18:14] <Valduare> its fresh install
[18:16] <daftykins> up to date?
[18:16] <Valduare> yep
[18:17] <dougl> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/plexmediaserver exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force) what is this line telling me please?
[18:17] <dougl> it happens when I - sudo apt-get remove --purge plexmediaserver
[18:18] <daftykins> Valduare: what kind of system is it? any particular reason for using non-LTS?
[18:18] <Valduare> no piticular reason
[18:19] <Valduare> 16.04 is going to be an lts right?
[18:19] <ru_> no no
[18:21] <Valduare> hmm in auth log
[18:21] <Valduare> failed to activate service   org.bluez  timed out
[18:21] <daftykins> Valduare: yep 16.04 will be the sweet time to change
[18:21] <dougl> Can someone please help me purge plexmediavirus... not sure what to do here when computers says - update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/plexmediaserver exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[18:24] <daftykins> why did you just type "virus" ?
[18:25] <ubuser> i have a headset (usb) logitech G330, sound works nice, but microphone  does not. it is detected in the control panel but there is no feedback on the orange bars
[18:25] <dougiel> daftykins, it breaks my system and will not uninstall - according to my understanding this is a virus or mal ware
[18:25] <ubuser> any hint?
[18:25] <dougiel> ubuntu3, is is muted in alsa mixer
[18:26] <daftykins> dougiel: you are making a foolish sensational statement in a childish manner
[18:26] <dougiel> daftykins, sorry to offend
[18:26] <dougiel> daftykins, do you want to help me?
[18:28] <dougiel> or complain about the format/sense of humor while I am trying to make constructive feed back?
[18:28] <ubuser> dougiel, alsamixer had different levels indeed
[18:29] <dougiel> ubuser, so it was muted?
[18:29] <ubuser> but sound panel still does not show any feedback
[18:29] <ubuser> no i wasnt
[18:29] <dougiel> Doh!
[18:29] <ubuser> i have 2 "mics" there
[18:29] <Winowa2> good day guys can anyone help me with my Grapchis problem on Ubuntu?
[18:29] <glassd> Is anyone here familiar with vsftpd?
[18:29] <Winowa2> i had Xorg updated then it crashed so i was stuck i na loop of Log In
[18:29] <Winowa2> now i havemeesed up lightdm adn cant fully purge it
[18:30] <ubuser> can it be some trouble with the hdmi sound of my ati card?
[18:30] <ubuser> how can i disable it?
[18:32] <Bashing-om> Winowa2: Vidoe chip set .. and driver installed ? pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' . then we look at the log files .
[18:32] <ubuser> it has some feedback through the speakers... but no sound..
[18:34] <dougiel> daftykins, what do you suppose I should do about - update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/plexmediaserver exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)?
[18:36] <Winowa2> Bashing-om: I'll be back doing that i am on a dual booot. 5 mins
[18:37] <Winowa2> what is the command to paste on pastebin or ubunutupaste directly?
[18:38] <daftykins> "command | pastebinit"
[18:38] <Bashing-om> !pastebin | Winowa2
[18:39] <Bashing-om> Winowa2: see ya in a few .. if ya have difficulties with pastebinit .. we get ya over that hump .
[18:39] <dougiel> "update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/plexmediaserver exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)" what is this line telling me to do?
[18:41] <oana> good evening
[18:41] <oana> I have a problem
[18:41] <daftykins> we're 'listening'
[18:42] <dougiel> coulda fooled me
[18:42] <oana> I cant acces firefox
[18:42] <daftykins> !detail
[18:42] <daftykins> ugh
[18:42] <bekks> oana: why not?
[18:42] <daftykins> if you could give a bit more detail on one line, that'd be great
[18:43] <oana> one moment
[18:43] <squinty> dougiel,  maybe take a look at  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2234797
[18:45] <dougiel> squinty, thanks on my way...
[18:45] <oana> ok, please. Can you help me?
[18:45] <oana> oana@ututu ~ $ firefox
[18:45] <oana> The program 'firefox' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[18:45] <oana> sudo apt-get install firefox
[18:45] <oana> oana@ututu ~ $ sudo apt-get install firefox
[18:45] <oana> [sudo] password for oana:
[18:46] <Winowa> Bashing-om : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15234021/
[18:47] <bekks> oana: Please create a pastebin with the output, do not spam it into the channel please.
[18:47] <bekks> !pastebin | oana
[18:48] <oana> Ok, I am sorry. I do not know.
[18:49] <Bashing-om> Winowa: :) look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/15234021/ . Be back soonest .
[18:50] <Winowa> Bashing-om: thanks in advance
[18:50] <Bashing-om> Winowa: " [GeForce GTX 970] " What release are you running ?
[18:51] <Winowa> Ubuntu 14.10
[18:51] <daftykins> !eol
[18:51] <daftykins> !14.10
[18:51] <Winowa> Bashing-om: for the drivers i tried enablin a dual monitor on the Xorg
[18:51] <Bashing-om> Winowa: Ouch ! .. verify ! .. as 14.10 is End_Of_Life and has no support .
[18:52] <Lencl> hello
[18:52] <Lencl> hello
[18:52] <Lencl> I would like to re-install my ubuntu. how can I boot with ubuntu installer?
[18:52] <Winowa> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[18:53] <Lencl> hmm?
[18:53] <Winowa> Bashing-om : this version no longer has support?
[18:53] <Bashing-om> Winowa: ' lsb_release -a | pastebinit '
[18:54] <Winowa> it was stuck i na log in page loop after i enabled the dual monitor
[18:54] <Winowa> then i messed up the lightdm
[18:54] <Winowa> i will be back again 5 mins
[18:55] <Winowa> Bashing-om : see you in 5
[18:55] <Bashing-om> Lencl: Just stick in a install medium .. and 'install' A re-install is that nuclear solution . But always works .
[18:55] <PerlinNoise> Bashing-om, Lencl left already
[18:55] <PerlinNoise> no patience these days
[18:56] <Bashing-om> PerlinNoise: Tks .. Oh well .. Guess our time better spent .
[18:58] <Lucas_> hola alguien me podria ayudar para poder instalar usbasp plizz
[18:59] <k1l_> !es | Lucas_
[19:00] <Winowa> Bashing-om : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15234222/
[19:00] <Lencl> hmmm
[19:01] <PerlinNoise> Bashing-om, there he is again...
[19:01] <Lencl> have you ever had those days where nothing is working?
[19:01] <Lencl> this is one of these days for me!
[19:02] <daftykins> it tends to be best not to do anything drastic and sleep early, on those days
[19:02] <Bashing-om> Winowa: Great, good to go .. ok .. we know the chip set, let's look at X's log file and see what the system is hollering about ..' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[19:03] <Winowa> Bashing-om
[19:03] <Winowa> Bashing-om : another 5 mins
[19:03] <Winowa> is ther eanythiong else to pastebinit?
[19:03] <dougl> squinty, thanks alot for your help that post cleared everything up for me.
[19:04] <squinty> dougl,  good to hear  :-)
[19:04] <dougl> daftykins, sorry for making fun of your package.
[19:04] <Winowa> Bashing-om : oh by the way i have both Xorg .0 and Xorg.1 is it weird?
[19:04] <Bashing-om> Winowa: Well .. I can bet we will want to know what drivers are installed .. may as well also post ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia | pastebinit ' .
[19:05] <Winowa> Bashing-om : brb
[19:06] <Bashing-om> Winowa: Nope .. the .1 is from the last boot .. logrotate takes care of old logs .. nothing happens on the system that is not logged "somewhere" .
[19:06] <daftykins> dougl: it's not my package, or making fun - i just think it's foolish calling something a virus when you can't work out how to do something :)
[19:11] <Winowa> Bashing-om : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15234380/
[19:12] <Winowa> Bashing-om : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15234394/
[19:12] <wark> a
[19:12] <Bashing-om> Winowa: K; And my last : < Bashing-om> Winowa: Nope .. the .1 is from the last boot .. logrotate takes care of old logs .. nothing happens on the system that is not logged "somewhere" .< Bashing-om> Winowa: Nope .. the .1 is from the last boot .. logrotate takes care of old logs .. nothing happens on the system that is not logged "somewhere" .
[19:13] <Winowa> Bashing-om : aites. the one that i pasted is from .0
[19:14] <wark> a
[19:19] <dougl> daftykins, well I guess you can think whatever you want and I forgive you for inferring I am foolish and find comfort in not caring what you think - good day kind sir :P
[19:21] <Bashing-om> Winowa: daftykins " (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Deleting GPU-0 >> II) NVIDIA(GPU-1): Renaming GPU-1 to GPU-0 >> (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Deleting GPU-0 " I do not know what to make of this ? We do have dual Nvidia chips and 2 monitors .
[19:23] <Winowa2> Bashing-om : Yes i do have two gpu and two monitors. Each monitor connecter to one GPU
[19:23] <Winowa2> *connected
[19:24] <Bashing-om> Winowa2: Yeah .. daftykins also runs dual monitors . maybe shed some light on the meaning " Deleting GPU-0 " .
[19:25] <ruben_> hi
[19:26] <ruben_> anybody here?
[19:26] <Winowa2> Bashing-om : I am not too sure myself. What i have done before ti started crashing was enabling the 2nd monitor. Initially only one was detected by Application named "Monitor"
[19:28] <Bashing-om> Winowa2: Kinda what it looks like .. awaiting daftykins to respond . what results  booting up with that external monitor disconnected ?
[19:29] <Winowa2> Bashing-om : now its directly to command line interface, i tried purge lightdm && install lightdm. Bad decision
[19:29] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Good help has returned :)
[19:30] <Bashing-om> Winowa2: Well .. we all been there, done that .. dumb things we do under stress .
[19:32] <Winowa2> Bashing-om : Sadly true
[19:33] <welovfree> Hello guys
[19:33] <PerlinNoise> Hellosun,
[19:33] <PerlinNoise> hello welovfree
[19:33] <welovfree> How can I add other resolutions?
[19:34] <welovfree> I can't find the optimum resolution which is 1360x768
[19:34] <Bashing-om> Winowa2: For now .. on preparation - let's make sure the ystem is updated and the package manager is in a consistent state. Dp ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' .. paste if ANY errors. no error from the dpkg command is a good thing ( return to prompt) .
[19:35] <insidious> Can anyone tell me how i can remove the top menu bar?
[19:35] <insidious> or make it auto hide.
[19:35] <daftykins> don't think you can
[19:35] <insidious> using xubuntu
[19:35] <insidious> but i have a dock i just want to make it auto hide or remove it.
[19:35] <daftykins> oh i was thinking unity
[19:36] <Winowa2> Bashing-om: i already did update will be doing the rest. Same 5 mins
[19:36] <daftykins> Bashing-om: hmm 0 primary and GPU-1 secondary, perhaps they swap? is this a desktop with two cards?
[19:36] <insidious> daftykins: is this possible?
[19:36] <welovfree> PerlinNoise: can you help me?
[19:36] <Winowa2> Bashing-om what does apt get -f install does?
[19:37] <Bashing-om> Winowa2: runs a check and 'f' for fixing .
[19:37] <Winowa2> cool. i'll be back
[19:37] <Bashing-om> Winowa2: See daftykins last .. desktop box ?
[19:37] <PerlinNoise> welovfree, did you install ubuntu native on your desktop/laptop or in VM?
[19:38] <welovfree> PerlinNoise: just trying it, didn't install it yet!
[19:38] <Bashing-om> yuk ... Winowa swapping boxes is a pain .
[19:39] <PerlinNoise> welovfree, thats it then, when you install Ubuntu, you need to install the videocard drivers. Then you get your resolutions
[19:40] <insidious> so is there no way to remove or auto hide the global menu bar  ??
[19:40] <welovfree> PerlinNoise: how can I install those drivers
[19:40] <apy> .xchat2/budus.so
[19:40] <limacharlie> insidious, you are on xubuntu and want to delete the menu bar?
[19:41] <insidious> yes
[19:41] <PerlinNoise> welovfree, Ubuntu will give a popup after installation
[19:41] <squinty> insidious, might want to ask in the #xubuntu channel
[19:41] <insidious> Ok thank you.
[19:41] <limacharlie> insidious, I got you.. one sec.
[19:41] <welovfree> PerlinNoise: can I install ubuntu inside windows using wubi?
[19:42] <insidious> ok thanks limacharlie:
[19:42] <welovfree> PerlinNoise: do this option still working?
[19:42] <xangua> limacharlie: wubi is not maintained nor recommended
[19:42] <xangua> welovfree: ^
[19:42] <PerlinNoise> welovfree, if you want to try Ubuntu, best you install Virtualbox and try Ubuntu in there
[19:42] <squinty> !wubi
[19:43] <PerlinNoise> !virtualbox
[19:43] <limacharlie> insidious, remove everything from the panel.. notifications, clocks, separators, everything. Problem is, you have to keep at least one panel for xfce. Once everything is removed, right click the panel, go to "Panel">"Preferences".
[19:43] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: :)
[19:44] <limacharlie> insidious, then click "Don't reserve space on borders"
[19:44] <insidious> Ok thank you!
[19:44] <pijush> hi
[19:44] <welovfree> so formating a partition whit ext4 and then installing ubunut on it is a good option?!
[19:44] <limacharlie> insidious, then go to appearance and change all alpha and transparencies to 0%
[19:45] <PerlinNoise> welovfree, you can do that, but you lose your Windows partition
[19:45] <limacharlie> insidious, it will still be there, but it will be hidden
[19:45] <Bashing-om> welovfree: The installer will format for ya .. just leave as "unallocated space"
[19:46] <welovfree> PerlinNoise: what do you mean by "I will lose my  windows partition"?
[19:46] <insidious> limacharlie: i dont see that in appearence
[19:46] <welovfree> PerlinNoise: I got C, D, and E drives
[19:47] <welovfree> C is where windows is installed
[19:47] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | welovfree
[19:47] <welovfree> and the one I'm gonna use for ubuntu is 3
[19:47] <welovfree> E
[19:47] <PerlinNoise> Do you have an emty drive? welovfree
[19:47] <welovfree> Yes!
[19:47] <welovfree> E
[19:47] <cyber37> Hi with netcat how to send a file to a webserver (the file has a GET REQUEST (http encoded)) AND RECEIVE THE RESPONSE ?
[19:47] <limacharlie> insidious, there should be three sliders in the panel's appearance tab. Alpha, Enter, and Leave.
[19:47] <cyber37> nc 192.168.1.254 80 < ./login_request   doesn't show the response.
[19:47] <PerlinNoise> ok welovfree , read the instructions Bashing-om just posted
[19:48] <insidious> yeah i found it thanks.
[19:48] <insidious> one more thing
[19:48] <insidious> there is no way for the tabs to not display at the top still?
[19:48] <insidious> i want everything to use the dock on the bottom.
[19:48] <insidious> instead of anything at the top.
[19:50] <Winowa> Bashing-om : i did the -f install
[19:50] <Winowa> now i am getting a black screen
[19:51] <Winowa> i think i need to do a boot-repair
[19:51] <limacharlie> insidious, you still want the tabs to show up at the top, or you're solely using docky or plank?
[19:51] <Bashing-om> Winowa: The output of '-f install' was all zero's ?
[19:51] <insidious> using dock
[19:51] <Winowa> it installed and correcte a long list
[19:51] <Winowa> *corrected
[19:52] <Bashing-om> Winowa: Grub repair is for a booting issue . not a display issue .
[19:52] <limacharlie> insidious, yeah, then just delete everything off of the top panel.
[19:52] <insidious> limacharlie: i did but the tabs still show
[19:52] <Winowa> Bashing-om : no erros were returned but a bunch of stuffs got installeed
[19:53] <insidious> Like the tabs from the apps im using still appear on the top.
[19:53] <insidious> i want to eliminate that
[19:53] <Winowa> i cant see terminal or anything now haha, the monitor just brigtens up a different tone of black
[19:53] <limacharlie> insidious, If you got
[19:53] <limacharlie> whoops
[19:53] <Bashing-om> Winowa: Sure would have been of help to see that list. as requeted . Let's try again and see if the symptoms remain ' sudo apt-get -f install | pastebinit ' .
[19:54] <limacharlie> insidious, if you right click, go to panel preferences, then go to the "Items" tab - what is listed?
[19:54] <Winowa> i might have messed up the lightdm and the gtk
[19:54] <Winowa> Bashing-om thing is nothing is dispalyed anymore
[19:54] <Winowa> its pitch black on the monitor
[19:54] <insidious> limacharlie: windows buttons
[19:55] <limacharlie> insidious, delete it.
[19:55] <Winowa> Bashing-om: but i do have a live usb i can boot into
[19:55] <insidious> hahah
[19:55] <insidious> limacharlie: thanks so much mate.
[19:55] <insidious> everything perfect now.... appericate the help
[19:56] <Bashing-om> Winowa: K. let's see what results booting to terminal from grub .. boot to the grub menu and 'e' key for edit mode => boot parameter screen. Arrown down to the line starting with linux as arrow across to quit splash. replace the terms "quiet splash" with the term "text" without the quotes. Ley combo
[19:56] <limacharlie> insidious, not a problem, enjoy! I'm an XFCE-fanboy... Can be such a simple, beautiful desktop.
[19:56] <insidious> yes indeed.
[19:56] <Bashing-om> Key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process to TTY1 .
[19:56] <limacharlie> insidious, get a screenshot on reddit.com/r/unixporn once you get it set up.
[19:56] <insidious> ok
[19:59] <Winowa> Bashing-om will be back in 5
[20:03] <anonymous> hallo
[20:03] <anonymous> greetings
[20:03] <nemeci> h
[20:03] <anonymous> can anyone help me with a easy screen sound reorder
[20:04] <anonymous_> lo
[20:04] <anonymous_> hallo
[20:04] <anonymous_> can someone help me?
[20:05] <freakna> im new, sorry :-)
[20:05] <anonymous_> i'm looking for an easy screen/sound recorder
[20:05] <anonymous_> gnome 15.10
[20:06] <anonymous_> help?
[20:06] <anonymous_> any suggestions?
[20:06] <freakna> use ubunto studio via usb, it has massive amount of tools for that
[20:07] <anonymous_> ok ty i'll take a look
[20:07] <anonymous_> i can't install ubuntu studio on gnome?
[20:07] <daftykins> it's a dist, i think you're after a program - so freakna's response wasn't very useful
[20:08] <anonymous_> y looking for a program
[20:09] <anonymous_> ok thanks anyway Peace!
[20:10] <condor1> from italy ?
[20:10] <Winowa> Bashing-om :http://paste.ubuntu.com/15235207/
[20:10] <Winowa> that's from -f install
[20:10] <Winowa> Bashing-om : this is from update  http://paste.ubuntu.com/15235244/
[20:11] <Bashing-om> Winowa: Look'n .
[20:13] <Bashing-om> Winowa: " 404  Not Found " 3rd party software .. show us ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit ' . so far not so nad .. Also, what have you done that "backports" repo is active ?
[20:14] <Winowa> Bashing-om : what does backports repo affects?
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Winowa: Once you have pulled in a package from "backports" it affects all installed packages .. On my experience YUK !
[20:17] <Winowa> Bashing-om : if i am not mistaken it might have boon from the web crawler that i was trying on named scrapy
[20:17] <Winowa> *been
[20:17] <Hilikus> i'm using postfix to deliver local mail between users in my home server. is there any way to make ALL mails be redirected to a particular account?
[20:17] <Hilikus> i tried virtual_alias_maps but it doesn't work
[20:19] <Bashing-om> Winowa: K .. Most likely fixable .. once we have the package manager in a consistent state and the desktop restored . What on the broke system are you able to boot to at this time ?
[20:25] <Billy21> Hello
[20:25] <marco1949> ciao
[20:25] <Winowa> Bashing-om : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15235515/
[20:26] <Billy21> I am having issues with my ubunutu server and am looking for a channel that can offer help
[20:26] <daftykins> #ubuntu-server also exists, but you need to ask a question first
[20:27] <marco1949> film porno
[20:27] <daftykins> !behelpful | marco1949
[20:27] <Bashing-om> Winowa: I be a wahile checking all thise PPAs .. be back soonest .
[20:27] <pavlushka_> Hi
[20:27] <squinty> Billy21,  #ubuntu-server
[20:28] <Billy21> cool
[20:28] <Billy21> I am looking for the log file location for why my server is crashing
[20:28] <Bashing-om> Winowa: 1) http://ppa.launchpad.net/kalakris/okular/ubuntu ; no longer supported .
[20:29] <pavlushka_> having irc username problems
[20:29] <marco1949> non conosco il funzionamento di questo programma. grazie a tutti coloro che vorranno aiutarmi. parlo solo italiano
[20:29] <Winowa> Bashing-om : thats sad to know haha, it was a greater alternative compared to adobe reader
[20:29] <Winowa> Bashing-om : could highlight many things there
[20:29] <squinty> Billy21,   log files -> /var/log
[20:30] <Bashing-om> Winowa: 2) http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu .. Most likely a duplicate in the main sources list.
[20:31] <linuxlove> i have connected my android phone to ubuntu with usb cable how can i find that in /dev directory?
[20:31] <Bashing-om> Winowa: 3) ditto .., a duplicate . http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main .
[20:31] <luvenfu> Hi, there is a tool to scan my wifi network? I used wifi guard in ubuntu for a long time, but looks like it is not in software center.
[20:31] <linuxlove> i see sevral tty there but idk which is my phone?
[20:33] <Winowa> Bashing-om: can i remove them?
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> linuxlove  mount each /dev/ to a folder and then read what's in it
[20:35] <pavlushka_> having irc username problems
[20:35] <linuxlove> MonkeyDust, i see mobile partner and drivers
[20:36] <pavlushka_> having irc username problems
[20:36] <salamanderrake> why? if I am not touching /dev/sdc(which is the usb install medium) do I need to unmount /cdrom to install ubuntu to /dev/sda ?????
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> pavlushka_  ask in #freenode
[20:37] <salamanderrake> I can't get past that point because it can't unmount /cdrom because it has to write/modify or some crap the partiton table.
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> linuxlove  pastebin the output of   lsblk   http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:37] <Bashing-om> Winowa: Yes remove them . as to ' okular ' seems to have only supported precise and was shor lived. last activity " 11-Apr-2013 " .
[20:37] <streulma> Cinnamon is my favourite DE, is it now always in the Ubuntu releases ?
[20:37] <salamanderrake> *because it has to commit changes to the partiton table
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> linuxlove  kdeep it in the channel
[20:38] <Bashing-om> Winowa: Also disable ( not remove) the "backports" repo .
[20:39] <linuxlove> MonkeyDust, http://pastebin.com/dsx6JKqj
[20:39] <Winowa> Bashing-om : coomand line for it will be?
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> linuxlove  yes, now simply type  ls /media/mohammad/Mobile Partner
[20:41] <linuxlove> MonkeyDust, and how about /dev?
[20:41] <streulma> is it not simpeler to use "eject" command ?
[20:41] <linuxlove> MonkeyDust, i need to it for smstools configuration
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> !find smstools
[20:43] <salamanderrake> I get this, http://imgur.com/qdQoDNe
[20:46] <Jordan_U> salamanderrake: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts .
[20:48] <salamanderrake> I will have to reboot, be back in a min
[20:49] <namid> jemand hier bin neu
[20:49] <bekks> !de | namid
[20:50] <namid> oh sorry hello i'm new
[20:50] <streulma> I can't find Cinnamon desktop environment on the minimal iso of 15.10
[20:50] <bekks> streulma: because it isnt part of the minimal iso.
[20:50] <streulma> but it is part of Ubuntu ?
[20:50] <bekks> streulma: it will be installed from the network.
[20:50] <bekks> streulma: Yes.
[20:51] <streulma> I can install from Ubuntu environment
[20:51] <k1l_> streulma: its in universe repo
[20:51] <k1l_> !info cinnamon
[20:52] <rcmaehl|mobile> https://imgur.com/SzvhsUo
[20:53] <rcmaehl|mobile> I need a lightweight DE with no animations
[20:53] <k1l_> !lubuntu | rcmaehl|mobile
[20:54] <rcmaehl|mobile> Does that work well on a P3?
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> rcmaehl|mobile  xubuntu is also light
[20:54] <k1l_> rcmaehl|mobile: lubuntu (or the lubuntu-desktop) is the most lightweight preinstalled desktop on ubuntu
[20:54] <daftykins> Pentium III's only belong at recycling centers, here in 2016
[20:55] <Jordan_U> rcmaehl|mobile: You've probably already realized this because of your asking, but because you're using llvmpipe for 3D (which uses the CPU instead of the GPU) you will be much happier with Lubuntu which doesn't depend on 3D.
[20:55] <k1l_> rcmaehl|mobile: if you want more lightweight you can look at tilingwms or such. (awesome)
[20:55] <rcmaehl|mobile> Good good because I'm getting 0.25 fps on desktop animations
[20:56] <k1l_> rcmaehl|mobile: try lubuntu.
[20:56] <k1l_> i am wondering you can install ubuntu on a pentum 3 with 300mb ram anyway :)
[20:57] <rcmaehl|mobile> I mean it boots
[20:57] <Jordan_U> rcmaehl|mobile: It depends on what you're doing. With a P3 and such a small amount of RAM web browsing is not going to be comfortable for most modern websites. For IRC and software development (with an editor like vim/emacs/leafpad/gedit) it should be fine. Note for software development your compile times might get excessive.
[20:57] <rcmaehl|mobile> I've actually got 768mb of pc133
[20:57] <rcmaehl|mobile> On the way
[21:01] <Ohga> I have an X11 related question, is there another channel for that, or is this one good?
[21:01] <bazhang> #xorg Ohga
[21:01] <k1l_> Ohga: on ubuntu?
[21:01] <Bashing-om> Ohga: Ask the question and se .
[21:02] <Ohga> oh, there is an #xorg, didn't see it when searching.. I'll try here if I don't get anything from those guys
[21:02] <Winowa> Bashing-om : do i need a command line to disable them?
[21:04] <Bashing-om> Winowa: One can do from command line , yes .
[21:06] <Bashing-om> Winowa: 1) ' sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kalakris-okular-trusty.list ' .
[21:07] <Bashing-om> !info ocular trusty
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> !info okular trusty
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Winowa: Never mind that last removal .! .. okular is in the repo .. we need to ppa-purge !
[21:12] <Bashing-om> Winowa: Still with me .. ppa-purge ?
[21:16] <Ohga> #xorg is dead atm. So it's a xkb
[21:17] <Ohga> .. xkb question;
[21:17] <Winowa> Bashing-om : its 6 am here haha
[21:18] <Winowa> i will ppa purge the ones not needed when i wake up
[21:18] <Winowa> Bashing-om: Sorry for not doing it this instance
[21:18] <Ohga> I have my custom partial symbols definition. Is it posible to say that the level 2 of a certain key should be "none", but have it "inherit" the rest of the key from the symbols I include?
[21:19] <Bashing-om> Winowa: At your liesure . We know now why okular PPA saw no activity .. had made it into the repo .
[21:20] <c|oneman> if I add old-releases to my sources to install an old package, will it affect my ability to keep my other packages up to date?
[21:20] <Jordan_U> c|oneman: Mixing repositories is a very bad idea, don't do it. What is your end goal?
[21:21] <k1l_> c|oneman: can you give more details?
[21:22] <c|oneman> I need to install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/2.03-0ubuntu1 onto 14.04
[21:22] <c|oneman> instead of the latest available 2.82
[21:22] <Jordan_U> c|oneman: Why?
[21:22] <c|oneman> because reasons.
[21:23] <Jordan_U> c|oneman: Please elaborate what those reasons are, because right now it seems like a silly and pointless task that is therefore not worth helping you accomplish.
[21:23] <c|oneman> because private torrent communities are a picky bunch.
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> c|oneman  if we know why, we can give better advice
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> beter or more
[21:25] <bazhang> !find utorrent
[21:26] <bazhang> ok
[21:28] <Jordan_U> c|oneman: So this torrent community will only allow you to use an old version of transmission?
[21:28] <daftykins> it's quite common, although picking another client makes more sense
[21:29] <Ohga> As I've understood it, it's something with the protocol many sites make use of to track share ratio, which is different in newer versions..
[21:29] <Ohga> although, I might be completely wrong, just something I heard..
[21:30] <c|oneman> they allow only specific versions of torrent clients that they've vetted in terms of being able to not cheat ratio
[21:30] <c|oneman> now, there's other options, deluge, etc. but I do
[21:30] <c|oneman> n't want to go that route
[21:31] <k1l_> thats right, but the communities that use such ratio are warez ration and in most countries its not even illegal but th upload is what is beeing chased after. so i would not do this at all
[21:31] <Ohga> so, I were kind of right then, yay
[21:32] <c|oneman> this is why I strongly disagree with giving the intent of my goal when asking a question. It's never to my advantage, despite what you might say. It's to the advantage of the person answering the question.
[21:32] <c|oneman> a life lesson, of sorts.
[21:32] <k1l_> c|oneman: not going to jail should be in your advantage.
[21:32] <c|oneman> It's rarely advantageous to be completely honest with a stranger.
[21:33] <c|oneman> instead of I had ducked the question or made something up, I'd be more ahead
[21:33] <madjoe> I believe I've found a bug in 15.10: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/287148
[21:33] <k1l_> c|oneman: and to the technical issue: old packages can have depencies on other old packages. which then cant be satisfied.
[21:34] <c|oneman> right, so I'd have to hold back a few dependancies. I'm guessing that's not recommended
[21:34] <k1l_> using old packages is not recommended in the first place. that is why we asked what the idea behind that is. so we can think about another solution.
[21:39] <monitor-view> So I'm running a license manager that appears to be calling a program I don't have or something. How can I debug the application to see what external commands it runs?
[21:40] <Fuchs> monitor-view: strace or gdb, probably
[21:41] <monitor-view> Fuchs: ah yeah, strace sounds right
[21:43] <monitor-view> Fuchs: there's a ton of output =\
[21:43] <Fuchs> yes
[21:43] <monitor-view> How can I just see what failed to be opened?
[21:43] <Fuchs> you can run that through grep though
[21:43] <Fuchs> pipe it to grep, or place it in a file then search in there
[21:45] <monitor-view> Fuchs: What pipe to I need for strace again? > doesn't work
[21:46] <Fuchs> > outputs to a file, | would be a pipe to pass it to e.g. grep
[21:46] <Penorsaurus> Ìû
[21:47] <salamanderrake> Got the install but no vmlinuz image installed
[21:49] <jdwwatts> Hello
[21:50] <salamanderrake> yeah this is a fresh 16.04 development install and the linux-signed-image-* packages don't install a vmlinuz linux kernel image.
[21:51] <k1l_> salamanderrake: as long as its not released please use #ubuntu+1 for support
[21:51] <salamanderrake> ok
[21:56] <Sentinal> Hello.
[22:04] <rcmaehl|mobile> Si
[22:04] <rcmaehl|mobile> So*
[22:05] <rcmaehl|mobile> I'm thinking about getting a IDE SATA controller for this p3 machine. Might help
[22:05] <rcmaehl|mobile> PCI**
[22:06] <k1l_> rcmaehl|mobile: honestly: invest in a complete new pc.
[22:07] <rcmaehl|mobile> I have one.  AMD Phenom 965 black edition,  16gb Ddr3, and 2tb in SSD storage
[22:07] <caverna> hi
[22:07] <caverna> hello
[22:07] <caverna> I need somebody's help
[22:08] <rcmaehl|mobile> This is just a project to see how far I can upgrade this board without replacing it
[22:08] <Bashing-om> !ask | caverna
[22:08] <plytro> rcmaehl|mobile: not far enough to make it worth using for anything
[22:09] <plytro> I've got a core 2 duo laptop w/ 4gb of ram that I am looking to offload on someone because there is no value left in it for me
[22:09] <caverna> I've created a new EBS volume, attached it to my EC2 instance and I want to use it for the /tmp folder so I have more space for mysql and nutch, anyone can help me with this last step please?
[22:09] <daftykins> rcmaehl|mobile: you're in the wrong channel. ##hardware
[22:10] <daftykins> caverna: that's an amazon support query, not an ubuntu one - find a relevant channel or contact their support.
[22:10] <caverna> ok sorry
[22:11] <caverna> the aws part is already done
[22:11] <caverna> what I need to know is the unix mount part
[22:11] <caverna> to link the /tmp folder to the new attached disk
[22:12] <plytro> what is the name of the attached disk?
[22:12] <plytro> /dev/???
[22:12] <plytro> or something?
[22:12] <daftykins> "sudo parted -l" would help perhaps
[22:12] <plytro> or sudo blkid
[22:12] <plytro> maybe
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> or lsblk
[22:12] <plytro> I don't know how EBS is attached to EC2 instances
[22:12] <plytro> once you find the name mount /dev/??? /tmp
[22:13] <njh_> audacity on my 15.10 makes stuttering noises, then hangs (goes grey).  Does it work for anyone else?
[22:13] <plytro> of course that could screw up stuff writing to temp
[22:13] <plytro> but you'll get it mounted
[22:13] <MonkeyDust> njh_  there's also #ubuntustudio
[22:13] <caverna> thans plytro
[22:13] <caverna> that's what happened to me
[22:13] <caverna> I've lost all /tmp data
[22:13] <njh_> I saw that, but I think I need to install it as a separate OS?
[22:14] <njh_> all the other sound apps work fine
[22:14] <njh_> like vlc, rhythmbox, totam
[22:14] <caverna> I suppose there's no way to recover it?
[22:14] <plytro> umount /tmp
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> njh_  i mean, the channel #ubuntustudio is multimedia dedicated, more chance to get an answer there
[22:14] <njh_> oh ok, thanks
[22:15] <caverna> awesome you saved my day
[22:15] <caverna> plytro: thanks
[22:15] <plytro> and then this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5489/how-to-safely-move-tmp-to-a-different-volume
[22:15] <caverna> so now my mysql desc method works
[22:15] <caverna> great help plytro thanks a lot
[22:15] <caverna> :)
[22:19] <kimprince> Hi, can anyone tell me how to ping a local virtual host?
[22:20] <teward> kimprince: define "local virtual host"
[22:21] <kimprince> Hi teward, an apache2 virtual host
[22:24] <Umeaboy> No harm meant, but why can't some messages in a popup window be written better? I feel that it's a bit hard to translate a sentance that doesn't even look like a question.
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> Umeaboy  that's for #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:24] <Umeaboy> OK.
[22:29] <Nikola_> Hey guys, anyone know where to watch live stream of Oscars?
[22:30] <njh_> kimprince, do you mean how to get apache to respond as a virtual host?
[22:30] <moonlit1> oscar.go.com/live
[22:31] <zamN> Hi, I'm currently running Ubuntu 15.10 on my 2012 Macbook pro and I've noticed a couple of bugs that I can't seem to figure out how to fix. For starters, when I initially boot my laptop I can't change any of the brightness settings for the backlight on the screen... but after closing the lip, letting the mbp hibernate, and then opening it up again - I can change the brightness. Super strange
[22:31] <zamN> o_O
[22:31] <kimprince> njh_: I just wanted to ping it.  I put it in /etc/host and it works.  I can also access it with cURL, but now I need to access it on port 8888.  HOw do I do that?
[22:32] <njh_> telnet localhost 8888
[22:32] <njh_> you probably want to type something like GET /
[22:32] <njh_> followed by two blank lines
[22:32] <njh_> alternatively, you could use a browser
[22:33] <RoundDuckMann> When using gparted to manipulate my SSD, it takes a while before starting an operation, like creating a new partition table, or even a new partition.
[22:33] <RoundDuckMann> on Ubuntu Gnome 15.10
[22:33] <njh_> kimprince, I'm still not clear whether you mean a virtual machine, or simply apache2 VirtualHost entry
[22:33] <njh_> VirtualHost has nothing to do with /etc/hosts
[22:34] <kimprince> njh_, it is a VirtualHost on ubuntu, running on a Ubuntu vagrant machine.
[22:34] <njh_> RoundDuckMann, is this a problem?  how often do you need to repartition?
[22:34] <RoundDuckMann> Is my issue a bug, or a virus?
[22:35] <njh_> it is an apache2 virtual host, right?
[22:35] <njh_> that's not a virtual machine
[22:35] <njh_> it's just a thing which says that if someone requests kimprince.com, use this configuration, if they want example.com, use that configuration
[22:35] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: It's because I'm preparing to install Ubuntu, after using the terminal to remove the Ubuntu LVM crap from a previous install
[22:36] <RoundDuckMann> Well Ubuntu Gnome 15.10, since 14.04 was buggy
[22:36] <njh_> RoundDuckMann, it could just be slow
[22:36] <njh_> does dmesg | tail say anything?
[22:36] <kimprince> njh_, what if they want example.com:8888
[22:37] <cyphase> does anyone know how I can use Network Manager to act as a DHCP server through a switch, without sharing my internet connection? it's trivial to share the connection, but I want to be able to do the same thing as "Shared to other computers" without actually sharing the internet connection; essentially it would be the same thing as "Shared to other computers" without having an internet connection
[22:37] <njh_> cyphase, I don't think that's a option
[22:37] <njh_> you'll need to set up a dhcp server manually
[22:37] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: This never happened on any incarnation of 14.04 before. Doesn't seem to effect ubiquity or sgdisk either. :/
[22:38] <RoundDuckMann> But I want Gnome 3.16...
[22:38] <njh_> right, but practice good debugging: split the problem in half.  Is it the disk or the OS?
[22:38] <njh_> an easy way to do that would be to use dd
[22:38] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: OS I guess?
[22:38] <cyphase> njh_, yea, i couldn't find anything; i just thought there might be something easier than manual configuration. thanks anyway :)
[22:38] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: dd for what?
[22:39] <njh_> time dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdx bs=1M count=1k
[22:39] <njh_> that will write 1GB to the drive and tell you how long it took
[22:39] <njh_> make sure you have the right drive, it will destroy whatever is on there
[22:40] <njh_> sdx is the drive name
[22:40] <njh_> you probably want to look at dmesg first
[22:40] <Guest83634> hi
[22:40] <njh_> and make sure the kernel isn't telling you something important
[22:40] <whatwhat> Hi, I followed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/728034/aptitude-install-error
[22:40] <whatwhat> On 14.04 LTS
[22:40] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: here's the output: 1k
[22:40] <RoundDuckMann> 0+0 records in
[22:40] <RoundDuckMann> 0+0 records out
[22:40] <RoundDuckMann> 0 bytes (0 B) copied, 0.00033367 s, 0.0 kB/s
[22:40] <RoundDuckMann> 0.00user 0.00system 0:00.00elapsed 0%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 2064maxresident)k
[22:40] <RoundDuckMann> 0inputs+0outputs (0major+89minor)pagefaults 0swaps
[22:41] <njh_> kimprince, you need to formulate more clear questions.  I can't help you otherwise.
[22:41] <whatwhat> http://pastebin.com/JMqtWCKh
[22:41] <whatwhat> I got that output
[22:41] <kimprince> Ok njh_, thanks
[22:42] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: So, did you see what I pasted here?
[22:42] <njh_> yes, did you use the correct drive name
[22:42] <k1l_> whatwhat: what ubuntu? what did you do before?
[22:42] <RoundDuckMann> yes
[22:42] <whatwhat> I followed http://askubuntu.com/questions/728034/aptitude-install-error because trying to install BOMI, I got exactly the same error: Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.9) but 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04 is to be installed
[22:42] <njh_> because it says that it failed to write anything
[22:42] <whatwhat> kll_ ? Ihave Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, as I said yes.
[22:42] <whatwhat> ?
[22:42] <njh_> 0 bytes copied
[22:42] <whatwhat> Is that what you meant?
[22:43] <whatwhat> k1l_: Thanks
[22:43] <njh_> dd is pretty much the nuclear option for disks mind you
[22:43] <whatwhat> k1l_: I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and tried to install BOMI. I added the PPA and got the error "Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.9) but 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04 is to be installed". So I searched for an answer and tried the one here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/728034/aptitude-install-error, which created the output here: http://pastebin.com/JMqtWCKh
[22:44] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: Well crap. Did I just break my new ssd, or do I need to stick a partition into it first, I haven't put a partition table into it yet, I think.
[22:44] <k1l_> whatwhat: "apt-cache policy gcc-4.9 cpp-4.9 libgcc1 gcc-4.9-base"
[22:44] <njh_> no you didn't
[22:44] <whatwhat> k1l_: Thanks, moment...
[22:44] <njh_> try without the count=1k
[22:45] <njh_> your disk is fine
[22:45] <njh_> and we can always put a fresh partition map on it
[22:45] <k1l_> zeilger!
[22:45] <k1l_> *zeigler
[22:45] <bfw> hi be sure to rm -rf /* /etc/init.d/
[22:45] <RippyDippy> Ok, so I want to use i3, but I also want access to the network manager. Any idea how ot go about this?
[22:45] <k1l_> !danger
[22:46] <bfw> security purposes i assure you!
[22:46] <k1l_> dont run that rm command, obviously malicious
[22:46] <njh_> children eh?
[22:47] <njh_> RoundDuckMann, have you looked at dmesg yet
[22:47] <whatwhat> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/HJkery6c
[22:47] <njh_> if there is a problem it will probably list errors there
[22:47] <whatwhat> k1l_: Sorry about the delay, helping the gf with some curtains.
[22:47] <k1l_> whatwhat: that PPA is rubbish
[22:48] <RoundDuckMann> hold on
[22:48] <whatwhat> k1l_: Ok. so what do I do to fix this and make it right?
[22:48] <k1l_> whatwhat: use ppa-purge to get rid of that ppa.
[22:48] <whatwhat> k1l_: Even if it's rolling everything back
[22:48] <whatwhat> k1l_: Can you show me the command?
[22:48] <k1l_> and dont use that again.
[22:48] <whatwhat> k1l_: I don't want to break the laptop
[22:48] <whatwhat> k1l_: K. I won't!
[22:49] <whatwhat> k1l_: It looks like I fkd everything up...
[22:49] <Dragnadh_> breaking laptops is indeed bad
[22:49] <RoundDuckMann> still nothing after putting in partition table, but how do I use dmesg?
[22:49] <njh_> dmesg
[22:49] <whatwhat> k1l_: Dragnadh_ Break the 14.04 LTS Ubuntu
[22:49] <njh_> that is it!
[22:49] <njh_> it is all the messages that the core linux kernel has generated
[22:49] <k1l_> whatwhat: sudo ppa-purge ppa:darklin20/bomi
[22:49] <whatwhat> k1l_: Thanks
[22:50] <whatwhat> k1l_: Will that also fix this output? http://pastebin.com/JMqtWCKh
[22:50] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: Now what? Just copy/paste it all?
[22:50] <whatwhat> from before
[22:50] <k1l_> whatwhat: yes
[22:50] <whatwhat> k1l_: It's running...
[22:50] <whatwhat> k
[22:51] <njh_> well, perhaps you can see problems already, but feel free to pastebin here and I'll take a look
[22:51] <k1l_> whatwhat: all that is because the PPA got wrong versions in it and that is messing with the system
[22:51] <whatwhat> k1l_: So if I run sudo apt-get install -f I won't get an error again?
[22:51] <whatwhat> k1l_: Thanks!
[22:51] <RoundDuckMann> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15237311/
[22:51] <njh_> RoundDuckMann, to be clear, you installed the ssd in an already working machine and you want to use it, right?
[22:51] <k1l_> whatwhat: when ppa-purge is done run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" to make sure you are on the lastest updates form ubuntu
[22:52] <profall> Hello. I have 2 AMD R9 280x and 3 Samsung 24" Monitors. Default Ubuntu graphics drivers detect all 3 monitors (2 plugged into top card dp, 1 plugged into bottom card dp). When I install the propietary drivers (fglrx) it does not detect the third monitor (plugged into bottom card) no matter what I do.
[22:52] <whatwhat> k1l_: Thats not going to fk up the existing 14.04 LTS install right?
[22:52] <whatwhat> k1l_: Just being super cautious.
[22:52] <k1l_> whatwhat: it just installs all updates for 14.04
[22:52] <whatwhat> k1l_: K
[22:52] <whatwhat> I'll run that next
[22:52] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: Yeah. I installed Ubuntu before, but I wiped it to try instaling 15.10 again.
[22:53] <njh_> this is your disk:
[22:53] <njh_> [    5.308021] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      SanDisk SDSSDA24 00RL PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[22:53] <njh_> [    5.308212] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 468862128 512-byte logical blocks: (240 GB/223 GiB)
[22:53] <njh_> [    5.308230] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[22:53] <njh_> [    5.308277] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[22:53] <njh_> [    5.308279] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[22:53] <dillon> does anyone use an ip blocker/hider/encrypter?
[22:53] <RoundDuckMann> Any problems?
[22:54] <njh_> oops :)
[22:54] <daftykins> njh_: http://paste.ubuntu.com in future
[22:54] <njh_> sorry, used to slack
[22:54] <njh_> nyway, your disk is fine
[22:54] <daftykins> how does another distro stop you pasting to IRC? :)
[22:54] <ouroumov_> dillon, you can't encrypt an IP.
[22:55] <dillon> ouroumov hide/change?
[22:55] <njh_> daftykins, it crashes on paste ;)
[22:55] <ouroumov_> dillon, you can do that using a proxy or a VPN.
[22:55] <dillon> ouroumov software?
[22:56] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: Did you look at the lower part of paste
[22:56] <njh_> yes
[22:56] <dillon> for the computer so I don't have to go through a website?
[22:56] <njh_> I think those lines are when you write to the partition table
[22:56] <jbc> hey all - i'm trying to build an Ubuntu PPA for my Django project. Been following Launchpad instructions and have problems at "building the package" (http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html#building-the-package)
[22:56] <njh_> (technically, when you tell the kernel to reread it(
[22:56] <tinyalpha> what are you guys doing
[22:56] <whatwhat> k1l_: It's working...
[22:56] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: So why isn't the dd command working for it then?
[22:56] <jbc> Is there a good guide on including Django projects from strach ?
[22:56] <njh_> well, as a guess, the syntax was wrong
[22:56] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: well your command
[22:57] <jbc> scratch?
[22:57] <whatwhat> k1l_: Is that it?
[22:57] <k1l_> whatwhat: yes
[22:57] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: used to dd being for creating USB sticks
[22:57] <njh_> and most likely the first line when you ran it was the reason: your dd doesn't accept k for count
[22:57] <njh_> dd just copies bytes
[22:57] <whatwhat> k1l_: And 'sudo apt-get install -f' what does that do?
[22:58] <njh_> it's the disk equivalent of copy and paste
[22:58] <RoundDuckMann> oh
[22:58] <k1l_> whatwhat: that tries to force installing of pacakges that have an error
[22:58] <njh_> my command is just copying 0s
[22:58] <ouroumov_> dillon, in any case you need to rely on an external infrastructure. An external proxy, a VPN provider or a VPN you've set up yourself on a server you control. Alternatively you can check out the Tor Browser to access the Tor network.
[22:58] <njh_> though now you mention it, perhaps /dev/zero would be better
[22:59] <whatwhat> k1l_: So, how do I check to make sure nothing is messed up?
[22:59] <njh_> I can't remember the difference between reading from null and zero
[22:59] <whatwhat> k1l_: that command you gave earlier of ...upgrade..
[22:59] <dillon> ouroumov Tor sounds a whole lot easier lol thanks again, one day I'll get it down lol
[22:59] <RoundDuckMann> I tried it with  RoundDuckMann
[22:59] <RoundDuckMann> zero, it's doing something...
[22:59] <RoundDuckMann> wut
[22:59] <k1l_> whatwhat: did you run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"?
[23:00] <whatwhat> k1l_: Yeah, after running 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[23:00] <njh_> RoundDuckMann, for that disk I'd expect it to take 1-2s
[23:00] <RoundDuckMann> njh_:  2048+0 records in
[23:00] <RoundDuckMann> 2048+0 records out
[23:00] <RoundDuckMann> 2147483648 bytes (2.1 GB) copied, 5.95325 s, 361 MB/s
[23:00] <RoundDuckMann> 0.00user 1.14system 0:05.95elapsed 19%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 3212maxresident)k
[23:00] <RoundDuckMann> 0inputs+4194304outputs (0major+343minor)pagefaults 0swaps
[23:00] <njh_> lovely
[23:00] <k1l_> whatwhat: stop running "sudo apt-get install -f"
[23:00] <whatwhat> k1l_: I ran the full-upgrade command last.
[23:00] <whatwhat> k1l_: Oh
[23:00] <jbc> any PPA gurus here?
[23:00] <njh_> 361MB/s is about right
[23:00] <njh_> so your drive is fast
[23:00] <njh_> I don't think you have any problem
[23:00] <k1l_> whatwhat: that install -f is like using the sledgehammer.
[23:00] <whatwhat> k1l_: Oh
[23:00] <RoundDuckMann> count was 2k in command but yeah, it was an SSD...
[23:00] <whatwhat> I got to leave to let her use this laptop but I'll be right back.
[23:01] <njh_> I suggest you go ahead with your install and it will all just work!
[23:01] <RoundDuckMann> njh_:  BTW, is there things I can do to optimize Linux for SSD, like trim, leaving out space, and all that
[23:01] <njh_> depending on your controller, you may not be able to get any more than 360MB/s from any drive
[23:02] <RoundDuckMann> Not like that
[23:02] <RoundDuckMann> :P
[23:02] <njh_> RoundDuckMann, there are, but these days the defaults are pretty excellent
[23:02] <njh_> well sata comes in two speeds, 3 and 6Gb/s
[23:02] <njh_> 3Gb/s is about 360MB/s
[23:03] <njh_> I have the same drive, and I get a little  bit higher, 390MB/s
[23:03] <jonbryan> UEFI is a pain in the ass to set up to dual boot on other distros, I'm proud to announce that it "just worked" on 16.04
[23:04] <njh_> but it's not worth worrying about
[23:04] <whatwhat2> k1l_: hey
[23:04] <whatwhat2> can you see this?
[23:04] <njh_> RoundDuckMann, well unless you have any other questions, I have things to do
[23:04] <k1l_> whatwhat2: yes.
[23:04] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: does overprovisioning help?
[23:04] <RoundDuckMann> do I have to do it
[23:05] <njh_> I doubt it matters much
[23:05] <njh_> if you want more speed, and you can afford it, a second drive in raid is about the easiest way to get more bandiwdth
[23:06] <whatwhat2> k1l_: so when sudo install -f ran, it removed a bunch of pazkages and now unbuntu kept giving system errors. I ran the full-upgrade command and then software updater.
[23:06] <whatwhat2> then it said to restart
[23:06] <whatwhat2> and i did
[23:06] <njh_> otherwise, you probably have better things to speed your time on - go learn rust or something
[23:06] <RoundDuckMann> I'm just worried about it lagging from normal speed and/or dying faster than normal... :P
[23:06] <njh_> nah
[23:06] <RoundDuckMann> or bugs.
[23:06] <njh_> nah
[23:07] <njh_> those problems are pretty much random luck
[23:07] <njh_> just make sure you back up regularly
[23:07] <njh_> it's the only method that works
[23:07] <RoundDuckMann> Sorry, I have a serious case of OCD, it's been plauging me with my PC for months
[23:07] <whatwhat2> k1l_ : it rebooted ok but how do i check to make sure those packages are back?
[23:07] <RoundDuckMann> It's why I deleted Ubuntu
[23:07] <RoundDuckMann> To reinstall it
[23:08] <whatwhat2> K1l_ sorry i have a couple of head injuries
[23:08] <njh_> if you're  worriedabout bit errors, btrfs can give you error detection (scrub)
[23:08] <whatwhat2> k1l_ we go to spokane hyperbaric on tuesday for an interview with an MD
[23:08] <RoundDuckMann> But is btrfs stable and even supported in 15.10?
[23:08] <njh_> I've been using it for years
[23:08] <RoundDuckMann> natively
[23:08] <njh_> never been a problem
[23:08] <njh_> all my systems are btrfs root
[23:09] <k1l_> whatwhat2: do you have any technical issue now?
[23:09] <RoundDuckMann> How to install with it on Ubiquity (installer)
[23:09] <RoundDuckMann> LVM sux
[23:09] <RoundDuckMann> sort of for me
[23:09] <whatwhat2> k1l_ it started ok. She's using chrome right now for schoolwork
[23:09] <njh_> (and I have a few hundred machines running it, so I am fairly confident it works)
[23:09] <RoundDuckMann> hard to wipe...
[23:09] <njh_> don't use LVM :)
[23:10] <njh_> just btrfs on plain partitions
[23:10] <njh_> you can add more drives later
[23:10] <RoundDuckMann> Is it included with 15.10
[23:10] <whatwhat2> k1l_ no errors when i restarted. Is that full-upgrade scanning the system for any fuckups in packages?
[23:10] <k1l_> the standard filesystem for ubuntu is still ext4.
[23:10] <whatwhat2> k1l_ thanks btw.
[23:10] <RoundDuckMann> I know that
[23:10] <k1l_> whatwhat2: no it isnt.
[23:11] <whatwhat2> k1l_ and later on, i would like to know how to avoid a bad ppa
[23:11] <k1l_> whatwhat2: dont be paranoid, see if there are errors while using it. then try to fix them
[23:11] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: Is Btrfs included?
[23:12] <whatwhat2> k1l_ is there a way to have it scan through ALL packages to see if there is anything missing?
[23:13] <njh_> yeah
[23:13] <njh_> it's an option in the normal installer
[23:13] <k1l_> whatwhat2: the packagesystem would have already put an error on running the updates.
[23:14] <njh_> you should read the docs for btrfs to understand how scrubing and adding and removing drives works
[23:14] <RoundDuckMann> Also if my 15.10 USB is read-only, will I get viruses (probably not, but stil want to make sure)
[23:15] <whatwhat2> k1l_ uh, i don't understand your past
[23:15] <k1l_> RoundDuckMann: probably not
[23:15] <whatwhat2> k1l_ you last comment
[23:16] <k1l_> whatwhat2: your system doesnt have any issues with packages right now it the update commands went through without errors
[23:16] <whatwhat2> k1l_ is there a way to tell the package system to scan and fix for errors?
[23:16] <whatwhat2> oh ok
[23:16] <RoundDuckMann> I checked for BTRFS's package in Ubuntu, it's already in, so it is included
[23:16] <RoundDuckMann> wanted to make sure
[23:16] <whatwhat2> so if an app had a dependency (like spotify) the package update command would have fixed them?
[23:16] <njh_> RoundDuckMann, I wouldn't worry about that
[23:17] <njh_> just use the system defaults
[23:17] <k1l_> whatwhat2: no
[23:17] <njh_> and keep your stuff up to date
[23:17] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: system defaults?
[23:17] <k1l_> whatwhat2: the packagasystem tries to fix the depencies on install already
[23:17] <Mikelevel> whatwhat2~ libss0.9.8 ?
[23:17] <whatwhat2> k1l_ spotify was already installed. I didn't want to break existing apps
[23:18] <whatwhat2> mikelevel I don't know. She's on the lao
[23:18] <whatwhat2> laptop doing schoolwork
[23:18] <k1l_> whatwhat2: i dont get what issue you are having now
[23:18] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: What system defaults? ext4?
[23:19] <whatwhat2> k1l_ i only wanted to make sure there was a way to recover from the install -f command
[23:19] <whatwhat2> the sledgehammer
[23:19] <k1l_> whatwhat2: if the update command i gave you worked. than its fine. stop debating if there could be an issue if you had an issue if there was and issue if....
[23:19] <njh_> RoundDuckMann, btrfs, don't touch anything else
[23:20] <whatwhat2> k1l_ k... i gtg to the coop and can't fix it if i'm away and she's like "It's broken!"
[23:20] <RoundDuckMann> njh_: Btrfs has settings? I know it's resizable and all that, but settings?
[23:20] <whatwhat2> k1l_ thanks
[23:20] <njh_> sure, all filesystems have settings
[23:20] <RoundDuckMann> oh, heh.
[23:20] <njh_> (you can't mount them without at least one setting :)
[23:20] <njh_> that's the third last column in fstab
[23:21] <RoundDuckMann> I'll try it then...
[23:21] <RoundDuckMann> thanks
[23:21] <satan-> hi guys
[23:22] <Rache> hey satan
[23:22] <RoundDuckMann> Also BTW, yes, gparted placed in a new partition table fast finally...
[23:22] <satan-> recently installed latest adwaita icon theme but can't even select that in settings or tweak neither (ubuntu 12.04)
[23:22] <RoundDuckMann> Great it's MS/Satan, nuke him to death!!!!   just kidding. :P
[23:23] <RoundDuckMann> name jokes...
[23:23] <RoundDuckMann> MS wouldn't be here anyways... They would just blab about clouds and W10... :P
[23:24] <satan-> oh nvm
[23:24] <satan-> got it with dconf
[23:24] <RoundDuckMann> gotta go
[23:42] <RoundDuckMann> One more thing, what's the best file system for SSDs in features/stablility? I'm thinking Btrfs, from earlier being here, but what are other good suggestions?
[23:43] <bekks> RoundDuckMann: ext4.
[23:43] <alive876> hi, i  started vncserver in a cloud environment with this command  vncserver -httpport 8080 , it came bck with: New 'X' desktop is brw314-dlib-c-2621594:2   , however when i try to connect to this with a vnc client i get server disconnected, any help appreciated!
[23:44] <k1l_> btrfs and stability? i doubt. ext4 is the standard for ubuntu and works very well with ssds. ubuntu ads trim support automatically
[23:44] <Ben64> alive876: what port did you try
[23:45] <alive876>  <Ben64>  2 nd 8080
[23:45] <alive876> 2 and 8080
[23:45] <Ben64> both are wrong
[23:45] <RoundDuckMann> k1l_:   anything wrong with Btrfs? I'd like a resizable FS without needing to use LVM
[23:45] <alive876> ok
[23:45] <Ben64> 8080 is the http port, you wouldn't connect to that with a vnc client
[23:45] <RoundDuckMann> is it too new?
[23:46] <k1l_> RoundDuckMann: ext4 is resizeable
[23:46] <Ben64> alive876: 2 is never the port, :2 refers to the display number, normally on vnc it'd be accessible via 5900+($DISPLAY) so... 5902
[23:46] <RoundDuckMann> ext4's not perfectly like that though, for example wouldn't resizing ext4 result in grub not working?
[23:47] <alive876> ok although its cloud9 nd they say they only open 8080 8081 8082
[23:47] <k1l_> RoundDuckMann: btrfs is still not stable. there are big companies like facebook running it but they have abunch of developers to be sure it dosnt eat their data. as a regular desktop user i doubt you have that
[23:47] <RoundDuckMann> True.
[23:47] <k1l_> RoundDuckMann: why should resizing result in grub not working?
[23:48] <RoundDuckMann> I've heard if not using LVM, resizing a root ext4 partition results in grub not working
[23:48] <k1l_> RoundDuckMann: you heard wrong things
[23:48] <Dynabeast> Hello?
[23:49] <Dynabeast> Grub doesnt recognize my keyboard
[23:49] <Dynabeast> K70 rgb
[23:49] <ramkam2013> hello hello
[23:49] <Dynabeast> Can anyone help me?
 using noVNC it comes back with "noVNC ready: native WebSockets, canvas rendering" but it does really do nything else
[23:50] <Ben64> alive876: on which port
 using noVNC it comes back with "noVNC ready: native WebSockets, canvas rendering" but it does really do nything else
[23:50] <ramkam2013> i'm running ubuntu server 14.04 (headless) on a VM, and i've resized the VM disk. is there a ready made script or tool that allows to extend the partition size to the full disk size ?
[23:51] <RoundDuckMann> I guess then that I was mistaken
[23:52] <alive876> 5902 which i input this way brw314-dlib-c-2621594:5902 and brw314-dlib-c-2621594::5902
[23:53] <Ben64> alive876: well if you say they don't open that port it won't work
[23:54] <alive876> ok, although they say they do have members running x-servers, but they dont say how
[23:55] <ALTO> exit
[23:56] <Ben64> alive876: you just have to use one of the ports you can use