[00:15] if one is generally comfortable in ubuntu, is there any reason to not use the non-lts releases? [00:25] pilne: Other than obviously having to upgrade more often, not really. [00:45] very cool, tyvm [02:05] anyone around that can help do a little bit of troubleshooting with guitarix and jack? [18:41] hi [18:41] installation is terribly slow [18:44] hello there... testing installation on USB semi SSD 130Mbit SanDisc Ultra Fit for performance test [22:15] am I allowed to ask a std ubuntu audio question here, or do I need to install ubuntustudio first? [22:16] I have 15.10, and mainstream apps like totam vlc and rhythmbox work fine, but audacity stutters and dies === mihai is now known as dumycs [23:09] njh_: whatever you ask is fine [23:10] ubuntu is ubuntu :) [23:11] but can you help me? [23:11] Having said that, I have not spent much time on 15.10. Audacity is not one my high use applications as I do most of my recording editing with Ardour or mhwaveedit. [23:11] normally I use jack [23:11] but it's annoying [23:12] jack and audicity do not get along that well [23:12] so I was hoping to use it with pulseaudio [23:12] well, I was using audacity as a proxy for portaudio [23:12] which gets the same error [23:12] any time I have used audacity I end up using it with PA. [23:12] (portaudio, not pulseaudio) [23:13] yes audacity uses portaudio to talk to whatever. [23:14] it does that so it can work on win/OSx/pulse/alsa/jack [23:14] yeah [23:14] so I'm writing a realtime synth [23:14] and I'm just trying to find a non-painful way to write lowlatency audio in off the shelf ubuntu [23:15] ok, not with audacity though [23:15] portaudio seems like a good start. but this underrun problem has got me stumpped [23:15] and as I can reproduce it in audacity, I know it's not my program [23:15] have you tried asking on #LAD at all? [23:16] I did not know LAD [23:16] that's here on freenode? [23:16] "Linux Audio Developers" [23:16] yes [23:16] fantastic, I shall wander over [23:17] some of the people who put LV2 together are there as well as the authors of some other synth building blocks [23:17] nice [23:17] fwiw, I have ubuntustudio on the device I'm building this for [23:18] (which is a braswell picoitx) [23:18] ALSA/Pulse are pretty common no matter what the linux platform. [23:18] but it's small and lacks a monitor [23:18] hence why I wanted something I could use on a 'normal' computer [23:19] and I'm not willing to install US over my laptop [23:19] njh_: can you ssh -Y into the picoitx? (I realize you probably don't want install any x libs anyway. [23:21] -Y? [23:21] I've never had -X work [23:21] and yeah, I don't really need X [23:22] if you are interested, it's the brains of a wurltzer 'casemod' I'm doing for a friend [23:22] that is, he got a wurlitzer console without any guts, and I'm building a synth you can play [23:23] all the electronics is done, keys work, tabs flip. [23:23] so now I'm doing the synth part [23:29] cool [23:30] Have you ever looked at aeolus? [23:30] or is that not quite the sound you were looking for? [23:30] sure, I'm a contributor [23:31] It's a great sound, but it's a little long in the tooth now [23:31] and fons seems to have disappeared [23:31] he shows up once in a while, but has felt ill treated by some of the developers. [23:31] and it doesn't do reeds well [23:32] yeah, I saw tha [23:32] well if I ever find a way to contact him I'd love to tell him I appreciate his masterpiece [23:33] I grew up in church that had pipes, but it has been a long time since I have heard the real thing. That was 1st Baptist in Calgary AB Canada. Im on Vancouver Island these days. [23:33] yeah, that's a long walk [23:33] I also have a project to add some 32' stops to the local cathedral organ [23:34] which is contingent on getting the wurlitzer finished [23:34] synthetic 32' stops mind [23:34] there's not enough room in the loft to fit real ones [23:34] but someone installed 10 subwoofers in there at some point, so I figure I'll just drive those [23:35] My parents have what used to be an old Wurlter console with two manuals. My dad was putting his own version of (all hardware) sound moduals in. [23:35] ya 32foot is pretty big. Where I saw was 16s [23:36] yeah [23:36] it has several 16's [23:36] flue and reed [23:37] 16 was adequate to shack the place already. [23:37] :) [23:37] *shake [23:37] well the organist (who also gives me lessons) feels that we need to go deeper [23:38] Yeah, that was part of my reason for buying a 5 string bass too [23:39] drop D! [23:39] funny thing is a bass boost that boosts an octave higher actually makes it sound deeper. [23:39] yeah, that's because of the way the ear works [23:39] Ya mostly the D, but I do all the way down to the B once in while. [23:46] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_tone [23:46] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_fundamental [23:46] our ear breaks sound into combs of harmonics [23:46] then infers the base note [23:47] you can trick this by creating a sequence that implies the fundamental [23:47] that's why tiny little laptop speakers can sound like they have bass