[00:15] <pilne> if one is generally comfortable in ubuntu, is there any reason to not use the non-lts releases?
[00:25] <krytarik> pilne: Other than obviously having to upgrade more often, not really.
[00:45] <pilne> very cool, tyvm
[02:05] <kourck> anyone around that can help do a little bit of troubleshooting with guitarix and jack?
[18:41] <studio-user101> hi
[18:41] <studio-user101> installation is terribly slow
[18:44] <studio-user944-o> hello there... testing installation on USB semi SSD 130Mbit SanDisc Ultra Fit for performance test
[22:15] <njh_> am I allowed to ask a std ubuntu audio question here, or do I need to install ubuntustudio first?
[22:16] <njh_> I have 15.10, and mainstream apps like totam vlc and rhythmbox work fine, but audacity stutters and dies
[23:09] <OvenWerks> njh_: whatever you ask is fine
[23:10] <OvenWerks> ubuntu is ubuntu :)
[23:11] <njh_> but can you help me?
[23:11] <OvenWerks> Having said that, I have not spent much time on 15.10. Audacity is not one my high use applications as I do most of my recording editing with Ardour or mhwaveedit.
[23:11] <njh_> normally I use jack
[23:11] <njh_> but it's annoying
[23:12] <OvenWerks> jack and audicity do not get along that well
[23:12] <njh_> so I was hoping to use it with pulseaudio
[23:12] <njh_> well, I was using audacity as a proxy for portaudio
[23:12] <njh_> which gets the same error
[23:12] <OvenWerks> any time I have used audacity I end up using it with PA.
[23:12] <njh_> (portaudio, not pulseaudio)
[23:13] <OvenWerks> yes audacity uses portaudio to talk to whatever.
[23:14] <OvenWerks> it does that so it can work on win/OSx/pulse/alsa/jack
[23:14] <njh_> yeah
[23:14] <njh_> so I'm writing a realtime synth
[23:14] <njh_> and I'm just trying to find a non-painful way to write lowlatency audio in off the shelf ubuntu
[23:15] <OvenWerks> ok, not with audacity though
[23:15] <njh_> portaudio seems like a good start.  but this underrun problem has got me stumpped
[23:15] <njh_> and as I can reproduce it in audacity, I know it's not my program
[23:15] <OvenWerks> have you tried asking on #LAD at all?
[23:16] <njh_> I did not know LAD
[23:16] <njh_> that's here on freenode?
[23:16] <OvenWerks> "Linux Audio Developers"
[23:16] <OvenWerks> yes
[23:16] <njh_> fantastic, I shall wander over
[23:17] <OvenWerks> some of the people who put LV2 together are there as well as the authors of some other synth building blocks
[23:17] <njh_> nice
[23:17] <njh_> fwiw, I have ubuntustudio on the device I'm building this for
[23:18] <njh_> (which is a braswell picoitx)
[23:18] <OvenWerks> ALSA/Pulse are pretty common no matter what the linux platform.
[23:18] <njh_> but it's small and lacks a monitor
[23:18] <njh_> hence why I wanted something I could use on a 'normal' computer
[23:19] <njh_> and I'm not willing to install US over my laptop
[23:19] <OvenWerks> njh_: can you ssh -Y into the picoitx? (I realize you probably don't want install any x libs anyway.
[23:21] <njh_> -Y?
[23:21] <njh_> I've never had -X work
[23:21] <njh_> and yeah, I don't really need X
[23:22] <njh_> if you are interested, it's the brains of a wurltzer 'casemod' I'm doing for a friend
[23:22] <njh_> that is, he got a wurlitzer console without any guts, and I'm building a synth you can play
[23:23] <njh_> all the electronics is done, keys work, tabs flip.
[23:23] <njh_> so now I'm doing the synth part
[23:29] <OvenWerks> cool
[23:30] <OvenWerks> Have you ever looked at aeolus?
[23:30] <OvenWerks> or is that not quite the sound you were looking for?
[23:30] <njh_> sure, I'm a contributor
[23:31] <njh_> It's a great sound, but it's a little long in the tooth now
[23:31] <njh_> and fons seems to have disappeared
[23:31] <OvenWerks> he shows up once in a while, but has felt ill treated by some of the developers.
[23:31] <njh_> and it doesn't do reeds well
[23:32] <njh_> yeah, I saw tha
[23:32] <njh_> well if I ever find a way to contact him I'd love to tell him I appreciate his masterpiece
[23:33] <OvenWerks> I grew up in church that had pipes, but it has been a long time since I have heard the real thing. That was 1st Baptist in Calgary AB Canada. Im on Vancouver Island these days.
[23:33] <njh_> yeah, that's a long walk
[23:33] <njh_> I also have a project to add some 32' stops to the local cathedral organ
[23:34] <njh_> which is contingent on getting the wurlitzer finished
[23:34] <njh_> synthetic 32' stops mind
[23:34] <njh_> there's not enough room in the loft to fit real ones
[23:34] <njh_> but someone installed 10 subwoofers in there at some point, so I figure I'll just drive those
[23:35] <OvenWerks> My parents have what used to be an old Wurlter console with two manuals. My dad was putting his own version of (all hardware) sound moduals in.
[23:35] <OvenWerks> ya 32foot is pretty big. Where I saw was 16s
[23:36] <njh_> yeah
[23:36] <njh_> it has several 16's
[23:36] <njh_> flue and reed
[23:37] <OvenWerks> 16 was adequate to shack the place already.
[23:37] <njh_> :)
[23:37] <OvenWerks> *shake
[23:37] <njh_> well the organist (who also gives me lessons) feels that we need to go deeper
[23:38] <OvenWerks> Yeah, that was part of my reason for buying a 5 string bass too
[23:39] <njh_> drop D!
[23:39] <OvenWerks> funny thing is a bass boost that boosts an octave higher actually makes it sound deeper.
[23:39] <njh_> yeah, that's because of the way the ear works
[23:39] <OvenWerks> Ya mostly the D, but I do all the way down to the B once in while.
[23:46] <njh_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_tone
[23:46] <njh_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_fundamental
[23:46] <njh_> our ear breaks sound into combs of harmonics
[23:46] <njh_> then infers the base note
[23:47] <njh_> you can trick this by creating a sequence that implies the fundamental
[23:47] <njh_> that's why tiny little laptop speakers can sound like they have bass