| furkan | does anybody here have a copy of a 16.04 Alpha 1 ISO image? any flavour would do... | 00:32 |
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| ChibaPet | furkan: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/ | 00:41 |
| furkan | ChibaPet: thanks but i was looking for a copy of the initial alpha 1 release, not the current daily build | 00:42 |
| furkan | there's a regression that i'm trying to narrow down | 00:43 |
| ChibaPet | furkan: The changes between then and now would constitute bug fixes. | 00:43 |
| ChibaPet | ah, gotcha | 00:43 |
| furkan | and it's proving too painful to work backwards and downgrade individual packages | 00:43 |
| ChibaPet | Alright, bug fixes and regressions then. :P | 00:43 |
| furkan | my volume keys stop working after suspend/resume | 00:43 |
| furkan | :( | 00:43 |
| ChibaPet | Oh, that's odd. | 00:44 |
| ChibaPet | USB keyboard, out of curiosity? | 00:44 |
| furkan | yeah, USB | 00:45 |
| ChibaPet | Unplugging and replugging ought to help. | 00:45 |
| furkan | just tried it right now, doesn't seem to have had an effect | 00:45 |
| ChibaPet | USB keyboards with multimedia keys present a distinct UHID for the multimedia keys. I haven't seen sleep mess that up, but as a temporary workaround, it shoul reinitialize and reattach if you re-plug. | 00:45 |
| ChibaPet | hrm | 00:45 |
| ChibaPet | The other thing to look at is xev output. | 00:46 |
| furkan | that's another thing i was playing with a while back | 00:46 |
| ChibaPet | I don't use Unity here, so I just catch the keystrokes in my window manager to process, but ... I'll try to remember to check xev on my wife's Unity once it's done updating. | 00:46 |
| furkan | it doesn't give any output for the volume keys when i just run xev | 00:47 |
| ChibaPet | hrm | 00:47 |
| furkan | but there was another tool too let me check what it was... | 00:47 |
| ChibaPet | I get this, not that it particularly helps you: https://bpaste.net/show/eb59011f0382 | 00:47 |
| ChibaPet | as an example | 00:47 |
| furkan | yeah that's what i get too when it's working normally | 00:48 |
| furkan | but there's this other tool, evtest | 00:48 |
| ChibaPet | Anything in dmesg noting a detach? | 00:48 |
| ChibaPet | Oh, I'm not familiar with that. Will have to learn about it. | 00:48 |
| furkan | right now i'm not getting any output in either of them | 00:48 |
| furkan | but if i remember correctly, i have to be running both of them simultaneously to get any output for the volume keys... it's strange | 00:49 |
| furkan | and no nothing like that in dmesg | 00:49 |
| ChibaPet | How about in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? | 00:49 |
| furkan | no "detach" in there either | 00:50 |
| ChibaPet | Anything about evdev that looks relevant, though? | 00:50 |
| furkan | hmmm | 00:51 |
| furkan | there's quite a bit in here about evdev, trying to read through it | 00:51 |
| furkan | this seems to be the only error, and it looks like it happened after the suspend/resume: [ 48.425] (EE) evdev: Microsoft Microsoft® 2.4GHz Transceiver v9.0: Unable to open evdev device "/dev/input/event6". | 00:53 |
| furkan | dunno if that's relevant | 00:53 |
| ChibaPet | That seems like a BlueTooth device or something. | 00:54 |
| furkan | just a Microsoft nano-receiver | 00:54 |
| furkan | it's an MS wireless keyboard | 00:54 |
| ChibaPet | Here's someone futzing with multimedia keys - maybe something in there will spark an idea: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/44169 | 00:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 44169 in X.Org X server "no multimedia keys when using evdev with mouse" [Medium,Won't fix] | 00:54 |
| ChibaPet | Wait, it's a wireless keyboard? | 00:55 |
| furkan | yeah wireless keyboard + mouse combo | 00:55 |
| ChibaPet | That's... almost certainly your multimedia device then. | 00:55 |
| ChibaPet | Thought you said it was USB. Anyway... | 00:55 |
| furkan | oh, yeah it's USB but it's a USB wireless receiver | 00:55 |
| ChibaPet | I'd bet that event6 is where the multimedia uhid is attaching. | 00:55 |
| furkan | not built-in bluetooth or anything | 00:55 |
| ChibaPet | kk, I've seen those | 00:56 |
| furkan | hmm | 00:56 |
| ChibaPet | So, when you try detaching/reattaching, are you just toggling the keyboard, or pulling the USB thing? Just be interesting to see if that matters. | 00:56 |
| ChibaPet | I'd assume pulling the USB adapter would give you a full reset, but we're touching on stuff where I'm insufficiently familiar to catch subtleties. | 00:56 |
| furkan | i pulled the USB receiver out and plugged it back in | 00:57 |
| furkan | interesting bug report | 00:58 |
| furkan | pretty old though, from back in 2006-2008 | 00:58 |
| ChibaPet | Hrm. I heard this odd flopping noise, and it was my two year old unloading a bookcase onto the floop, book by book. | 00:58 |
| furkan | in my case it was working fine with Ubuntu 15.10, and stopped after the upgrade to 16.04 | 00:58 |
| ChibaPet | floor | 00:58 |
| furkan | haha | 00:59 |
| ChibaPet | Yeah, not saying it's the same. Just stuff to look at. | 00:59 |
| furkan | but yeah that looks interesting | 00:59 |
| ChibaPet | The closest I got to digging into evdev was when I was trying to get my USB keyboard to work under FreeBSD, which just presents the raw uhid. It was the frist time I understood that the silly keyboard presents multiple devices to the system. | 01:00 |
| furkan | so it looks like in /dev/input i don't have an event6 | 01:00 |
| furkan | i should try rebooting and see if it comes back | 01:00 |
| ChibaPet | That seems extreme. | 01:02 |
| ChibaPet | udev ought to be creating things like that as devices that need them are plugged in. | 01:02 |
| ChibaPet | ALSO... It might get a name other than event6 on re-insertion. | 01:02 |
| ChibaPet | I'd watch dmesg and watch the contents of /dev as you pull the plug and re-insert. | 01:02 |
| ChibaPet | Alright, I need to clean up books and finish working on my wife's machine. I'll be back later. Sorry I don't have any more direct help. | 01:03 |
| furkan | i just tried unplugging and plugging back in | 01:03 |
| furkan | again | 01:03 |
| furkan | and same error | 01:03 |
| ChibaPet | Anything interesting? | 01:03 |
| ChibaPet | hrm | 01:03 |
| furkan | [ 4111.568] (EE) evdev: Microsoft Microsoft® 2.4GHz Transceiver v9.0: Unable to open evdev device "/dev/input/event6". | 01:03 |
| furkan | [ 4111.568] (EE) PreInit returned 2 for "Microsoft Microsoft® 2.4GHz Transceiver v9.0" | 01:03 |
| furkan | but hey that's progress at least.. i hadn't noticed that before | 01:04 |
| furkan | thanks for the help :) | 01:04 |
| ChibaPet | Mm, and it's almost certainly directly related. | 01:04 |
| ChibaPet | sure - please tell us what you find, as I'd be interested in knowing what it was | 01:04 |
| furkan | will do, if there is any progress :) | 01:04 |
| drhalan1 | hey. is there anything I have to do for resolvconf to read stuff in /etc/network/interfaces? | 02:07 |
| drhalan1 | is xenial even still using resolvconf? | 02:07 |
| drhalan1 | anyways my problem: putting an entry in /etc/resolv.conf works. putting the same thing in /etc/network/interfaces doesn't | 02:10 |
| drhalan1 | (even after a reboot) | 02:10 |
| ChibaPet | drhalan1: You put resolvconf lines into interface descriptions. | 02:20 |
| drhalan1 | i put °dns-nameservers° instead of °namerserver" | 02:20 |
| ChibaPet | Correct. | 02:20 |
| ChibaPet | And dns-search. | 02:20 |
| drhalan1 | doh dns-search fixed it | 02:24 |
| drhalan1 | thanks ChibaPet | 02:24 |
| ChibaPet | cool | 02:24 |
| ChibaPet | sure thing | 02:24 |
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| Fudge | you can use two hostnames with search in resolv.conf i have my isp and my local network to resolve local hostnames from my gateway | 02:53 |
| ChibaPet | I think you can go up to six, maybe more. | 02:54 |
| ChibaPet | There's a cap that's smaller than what I could really use, but, eh. | 02:54 |
| drhalan1 | ChibaPet: maybe you can help me with this issue too? http://pastebin.com/1damUL2M | 03:23 |
| drhalan1 | not sure why i need to call ifup before resolvconf works... | 03:24 |
| drhalan1 | i guess it is due to manual...but resolvconf should still setup dns... | 03:28 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 10:05 |
| Fudge | hi cobber | 10:13 |
| Fudge | still having dhclient probs, but my buddy with exact same setup isnt, so what have i ddone differently | 10:13 |
| lordievader | Fudge: Tcpdump it, do you get replies on your dhcp requests? | 10:15 |
| Fudge | listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 262144 bytes | 10:17 |
| lordievader | No need to paste the entire output here ;) | 10:17 |
| Fudge | if i run dhclient eth0 manually i get an ip, but when i leave it to expire in 700seconds or what ever the lease time is, i dont get a new one | 10:18 |
| lordievader | Tcpdump it and watch the logs when that happens. | 10:19 |
| Fudge | ok | 10:19 |
| Fudge | bound to 203.206.58.81 -- renewal in 6355 seconds. | 10:21 |
| lordievader | Time for coffee ;) | 10:21 |
| Fudge | lol | 10:24 |
| Fudge | ill prob be in bed then damn | 10:24 |
| lordievader | Not if you drink your coffee :P | 10:24 |
| * lordievader slides Fudge a fresh cup of coffee | 10:24 | |
| Fudge | i ran out, i could brew some though | 10:24 |
| Fudge | cheers | 10:28 |
| Fudge | ok using his rules too | 11:16 |
| lordievader | ? | 11:24 |
| Fudge | iptables | 11:25 |
| * lordievader is confused | 11:49 | |
| lordievader | What does iptables have to do with this? | 11:49 |
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| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 13:16 |
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| mayhem | will mir+unity8 be shipped with 16.04? | 14:48 |
| lotuspsychje | !info unity8-desktop-session-mir | mayhem | 14:48 |
| ubottu | mayhem: unity8-desktop-session-mir (source: unity8-desktop-session): Unity8 desktop session for Mir. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12+15.10.20150609-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 4 kB, installed size 54 kB | 14:48 |
| mayhem | yeah, I was going through it.. | 14:49 |
| k1l | mayhem: they are already in 15.10. | 14:49 |
| mayhem | sorry, what I meant is that is there a separate version planned for 16.04 (with mir+unity8) | 14:50 |
| k1l | mayhem: no | 14:52 |
| mayhem | :k1l thanks for the confirmation | 14:54 |
| nicomachus | I decided to take the beta plunge on my HTPC finally. I tried to upgrade with do-release-upgrade -d, but it's unable to authenticate module-init-tools and aborts the process. | 16:13 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: from wily? | 16:24 |
| nicomachus | Yea. | 16:24 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: fresh install instead, i had kernel issues from wily to xenial upgrade | 16:25 |
| nicomachus | I guess there's a way to create a file to allow unauthed, but I'm not sure that's a good idea. | 16:25 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: i ended up with 4.2 kernel where i should have higher on xenial | 16:26 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: mixxed things up | 16:26 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: fresh all working like a charm now | 16:26 |
| * nicomachus sighs | 16:27 | |
| nicomachus | okkkkkk | 16:27 |
| nicomachus | guess I need to backup and do that then. | 16:27 |
| lotuspsychje | nicomachus: youl be happy with a fresh one mate :p | 16:31 |
| nicomachus | Probably. | 16:31 |
| nicomachus | thank god for gigabit upload speeds to google drive. | 16:34 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 16:51 |
| alkisg | Hi guys, `do-release-upgrade -d` on mate 15.10 doesn't give me 16.04 | 20:04 |
| alkisg | Does that only work for vanilla ubuntu? Should I sed through sources.list instead? | 20:04 |
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| ChibaPet | drhalan1: I just saw your paste from last night. The bit I don't get is how eth0 had an address before the ifup. That it did suggests that the system didn't start from a totally clean state. | 23:51 |
| ChibaPet | I'd guess from what I see that you added the resolvconf lines after eth0 was already up. | 23:51 |
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