| === mappps is now known as mapps | ||
| Guest56535 | morning all | 07:58 |
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| === Guest56535 is now known as MooDoo | ||
| MooDoo | or morning all even | 07:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | monday, and sodding rain... that is all... | 08:06 |
| MooDoo | that's a good day then :) | 08:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | though there is the new rasp pi 3 for sale... so we got that going for us... | 08:09 |
| \sv | morning my loveable penguins | 08:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | *sqwak* | 08:47 |
| \sv | do penguins squark? :P | 08:47 |
| \sv | im trying to set up google authenticator to auth into my ubuntu 15.10 laptop - as it's portable i'd like to have added security | 08:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | get a pink laptop and put my little pony sticks all over it.... no one will ever touch it... :-) | 08:48 |
| MooDoo | and what's wrong with MLP, Rainbow Dash is my fave :D | 08:51 |
| popey | morning | 09:02 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:07 |
| bashrc_ | morning | 09:08 |
| \sv | how toenable text mode so it auto gui's but then i have the OPTION of text in the case i break something? | 09:18 |
| popey | wat? | 09:19 |
| foobarry | ctrl-alt-f1 | 09:19 |
| foobarry | will give you text console | 09:19 |
| foobarry | ctrl-alt-f7 will get you back | 09:19 |
| \sv | foobarry, used to. no longer does it in 15.10 | 09:19 |
| foobarry | ctrl-alt-f2? | 09:19 |
| \sv | none of them | 09:19 |
| foobarry | wow | 09:20 |
| * foobarry is an LTS guy | 09:20 | |
| \sv | foobarry, familier with pam? | 09:20 |
| popey | uh | 09:22 |
| popey | they work here | 09:22 |
| popey | so not sure why they don't work for you | 09:22 |
| \sv | popey, noooo pam file | 09:22 |
| popey | I don't know what you're saying. Use more words. | 09:23 |
| \sv | lines 29 and 30 of the code i sent you; do they look right? | 09:24 |
| popey | i have no idea | 09:27 |
| SuperMatt | sounds to me like someone needs to reinstall | 09:28 |
| \sv | SuperMatt, no. im trying to make it more secure | 09:28 |
| foobarry | have you been fiddling \sv | 09:28 |
| foobarry | i think you have! | 09:28 |
| awilkins | Good morning, and happy "Bang F5 on the HTC Website Until Your Finger Gets a Blister Day" " | 10:05 |
| zmoylan-pi | you can hit f5 with your nose... | 10:06 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:10 |
| sebsebseb | hi | 10:16 |
| popey | hi | 10:38 |
| MooDoo | howdy brobostigon | 10:40 |
| sebsebseb | yay reccurding paypal payments, when don't really want it to happen | 10:42 |
| sebsebseb | at least I have figured out how to properly cancale those now, but after woulds | 10:43 |
| brobostigon | hi popey and MooDoo | 10:53 |
| MooDoo | howdy :D | 10:55 |
| diddledan | everyone!!! PI3!!!! | 11:26 |
| MooDoo | just been reading about them :D | 11:26 |
| diddledan | sneaky being their birthday | 11:27 |
| diddledan | I thought something might be up with their blog post over the weekend that had a celebration video for their birthday early purportedly to not get swamped with celebration posts today | 11:27 |
| diddledan | omg. it's got wifi | 11:28 |
| zmoylan-pi | but still only 1gb of ram | 11:29 |
| popey | Yeah, there were rumours for the last week or so | 11:29 |
| diddledan | aye | 11:29 |
| popey | I ordered mine as soon as I saw a tweet with a url in it | 11:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | i suppose they have to hold something back for + version | 11:29 |
| popey | got two arriving tomorrow | 11:29 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 11:29 |
| MooDoo | bluetooth as well diddledan | 11:30 |
| diddledan | the pi in general is fast becoming a general-purpose PC rather than as MS would have you believe an IoT thing | 11:31 |
| Myrtti | bit too little ram still to finally haul my sister's Dell GX620 into the electric waste | 11:32 |
| Myrtti | I had high hopes | 11:32 |
| diddledan | though I do think that MS' Win10IoT is a nice little OS for single-purpose devices | 11:32 |
| === Seeker_ is now known as Seeker` | ||
| diddledan | I'd like for snappy to be an equivalent thing in linuxland - the main thing I like about the Win10 is that it drives the display with a single full-screen app that can't be closed by the end-user without connecting from another device | 11:34 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 11:34 |
| diddledan | allo bigcalm | 11:35 |
| diddledan | bigcalm, he often comes-over with a violent dose of large-tranquil feelings :-p | 11:35 |
| bigcalm | ? | 11:35 |
| bigcalm | Oh | 11:36 |
| diddledan | bigcalm, being silly | 11:36 |
| bigcalm | Or factual | 11:36 |
| diddledan | lol | 11:36 |
| bigcalm | I have tea, I'm happy | 11:36 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 11:36 |
| diddledan | I have cola | 11:36 |
| diddledan | I might have to wander across and get some milk so I can tea | 11:36 |
| diddledan | to the shop* | 11:37 |
| bigcalm | Is there an app that will kill (and hopefully report) if a process is taking 100% CPU for more than X minutes? I have to power cycle one of my Digital Ocean servers every few days because something gets its knickers in a twist and hogs the CPU forever more | 11:39 |
| diddledan | HAH! the pi is now the UK's all-time best-selling computer! | 11:39 |
| diddledan | hmm, not sure | 11:39 |
| diddledan | you'd think there'd be some kind of watchdog-type thing available _somewhere_ | 11:39 |
| diddledan | I wonder what's meant by custom-hardened in this statement: a custom-hardened 1.2GHz 64-bit quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 | 11:41 |
| diddledan | that's from eben upton on the piblog | 11:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | a flash of light won't make it crash? :-) | 11:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | http://www.zdnet.com/article/raspberry-pi-2-power-crashes-when-exposed-to-xenon-flash/#! | 11:43 |
| diddledan | lol. pigate! | 11:43 |
| diddledan | or was it flashgate? | 11:43 |
| MooDoo | diddledan: it's about sales, only the cpc amstrad has sold more units, although I don't think that will last long | 11:43 |
| sebsebseb | the Rassbery Pi can also run RISC OS, which is interesting | 11:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | nah flashgate is been held for the conservative conference party... :-P | 11:44 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi loves that thar riscos | 11:44 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi is antiquated :-p | 11:44 |
| diddledan | he still uses a nokia, dun'thcaknow | 11:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | AND a rasp pi... b | 11:45 |
| diddledan | not even a b+ | 11:45 |
| zmoylan-pi | nope | 11:45 |
| * diddledan sighs | 11:45 | |
| zmoylan-pi | mind usng a dumbphone is now fashionable so i'll have to find my semaphore flags... | 11:45 |
| diddledan | hmm, there's mention that "Phil Elwell developed the wireless LAN and Bluetooth software" <-- does that mean the firmware or have they got a simplified stack for folk to get-to-grips with programming it? | 11:47 |
| diddledan | it's nice to see the compute module is being updated | 11:50 |
| diddledan | though I wonder how many of those are actually being sold | 11:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | i wonder how sales of pi's and their ilk are harming pc sales when they're so cheap | 11:53 |
| diddledan | aye. | 11:54 |
| sebsebseb | I think only technical enough people generally buy Rassbery Pi's, and education a bit here and there | 11:54 |
| sebsebseb | and maybe some technical busineses to | 11:54 |
| diddledan | I'm hoping for a large memory upgrade in the next pi release :-) | 11:54 |
| sebsebseb | general average consumer etc, nope | 11:54 |
| sebsebseb | joe and jane average public, no | 11:54 |
| sebsebseb | so Rassbery Pi's in general have probably had little effect on desktop PC's | 11:54 |
| sebsebseb | and lap tops | 11:55 |
| popey | they aren't design to | 11:55 |
| popey | *designed | 11:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | the pi3 if it had 2gb of ram would have been a great little lite desktop | 11:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | 1gb is too little for web browsing these days | 11:56 |
| davmor2 | zmoylan-pi: it's fine for browsing just use dillo or w3m :D | 11:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | i tried midori and qupzilla as well as those but none of them quite did all i wanted browser wise | 11:58 |
| davmor2 | zmoylan-pi: just use emacs and be done :D | 11:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | wget all my pages... | 11:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | i did think about doing that... :-) | 12:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | but you're starting to get a bit too matrixy at that point... :-D | 12:00 |
| diddledan | did I see recently someone had created a linux distro that was essentially emacs directly ontop of the kernel? | 12:02 |
| zmoylan-pi | were is emacsos for phones?? | 12:03 |
| MooDoo | you just need terminator, mutt, w3m and moc, then you don't need a gui :D | 12:03 |
| diddledan | err. I do not want a terminator! | 12:03 |
| diddledan | unless it is bent to my will and not a nefarious AI | 12:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | i don't think you get a choice in having a terminator... that's not how that franchise worked... | 12:03 |
| popey | I demonstrated Ubuntu Phone at my local LUG two years ago. One guy said "Can it run emacs?" "I won't buy it if it doesn't run Emacs!" | 12:03 |
| moreati | A silly thought experiment: If Linux/RPi had a very distinctive crash screen ala BSOD, would it _help_ awareness/adoption or hurt it? | 12:04 |
| diddledan | popey, did he have an android? was that running emacs? | 12:04 |
| popey | no | 12:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | there is emacs for android | 12:04 |
| popey | he had a dumbphone | 12:04 |
| diddledan | and was that dumbphone running emacs? | 12:04 |
| moreati | Think brand awareness and multidecade trends | 12:04 |
| zmoylan-pi | proper dumbphone :-) | 12:04 |
| popey | lunchtime | 12:04 |
| diddledan | if not, then I fail to see his argument | 12:04 |
| popey | i predict an omlette! | 12:05 |
| MooDoo | not a riot? | 12:05 |
| popey | indeed | 12:05 |
| popey | sung to that tune | 12:05 |
| diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hamKl-su8PE | 12:05 |
| zmoylan-pi | at least a dumbphone will crack and egg and not get damaged :-) | 12:05 |
| diddledan | I have cracked many eggs and not got damaged :-p | 12:05 |
| diddledan | I did get damaged when I cracked a wall though. my poor noggin. | 12:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | was the wall ok? | 12:07 |
| diddledan | I suspect sandisk are having trouble with sales of their SSD lines. they keep being offered at reduced rates. | 12:07 |
| diddledan | today only at maplin AND dabs they're being sold at approx £100 for the 480GB | 12:08 |
| diddledan | that's "today-only" and not "today, only at" | 12:09 |
| * zmoylan-pi spots 10,000 mah power bank been sold this thursday at lidl for €18 | 12:09 | |
| diddledan | as to the wall, I think I dented it's feelings a little but it stood firm | 12:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | i wonder how long it would power a rasp pi for... | 12:09 |
| diddledan | good question | 12:10 |
| diddledan | 10Amp-hours @ consumption of ~500miliamp consumption = ~20 hours. at 1amp consumption (more likely than 500ma) it'll be ~10 hours | 12:11 |
| diddledan | and at 2amp consumption (multiple USB's attached) it'll be ~5 hours. at max rated 2.5amp it'll be ~4 hours | 12:13 |
| diddledan | (that max rating I used the recommended PSU rating for the PI3) | 12:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | thanks, i must learn to breakdown power usage rates/capacities | 12:13 |
| diddledan | 10,000 miliamphours means 1miliamp for 10,000 hours or 10,000amps for 1 hour - then sliding scale between, e.g. 5amps (5000miliamps) for 2 hours | 12:15 |
| diddledan | 10,000miliamps, NOT 10,000AMPS!!! | 12:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | that makes sense... | 12:15 |
| diddledan | 10,000 amps would be... *calculates* 3.6seconds | 12:17 |
| zmoylan-pi | for 10,000 amps we'd need a delorean and a lightning conductor... | 12:17 |
| diddledan | plus an exploding battery :-p | 12:18 |
| diddledan | 3.6seconds AND a mini explosion | 12:18 |
| zmoylan-pi | as long as it leaves streaks of fire i'll be happy :-) | 12:18 |
| diddledan | more likely streaks of another kind (in your underwear) | 12:18 |
| zmoylan-pi | that's why you buy stripy underwear!! pffft... amateur... | 12:19 |
| diddledan | and burnt eyebrows AND a few expletives | 12:19 |
| diddledan | wtf? someone sent an email to the polymer (a google project) mailing list which appears to be a direct rip from education materials with no explanation: https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer#!msg/polymer-dev/n5CRhEwxQ2M/G5GmIUeoEwAJ | 12:26 |
| diddledan | are they using education material as an advertisement of what they're trying to sell? I just don't get it at all. | 12:27 |
| TwistedLucidity | Looks like spam to sell their courses | 12:28 |
| TwistedLucidity | Perhaps a couple are loss-leaders? Either way, I never trust companies who spam. | 12:29 |
| zmoylan-pi | not even hornell who make spam? | 12:30 |
| TwistedLucidity | I don't think I have eaten "specially processed artifical meat" since I was about 6. | 12:31 |
| TwistedLucidity | (I know it's no an acronym, and why it's actually called 'spam' the above is a mere, pathetic, jest) | 12:31 |
| davmor2 | zmoylan-pi: no I bet there is horse in it | 12:32 |
| TwistedLucidity | davmor2: Horse is tasty | 12:33 |
| zmoylan-pi | has more of a kick... | 12:33 |
| diddledan | my nephew used to pronounce it as though the s and e were transposed | 12:34 |
| TwistedLucidity | That could be amusing/problematic | 12:34 |
| diddledan | which led to endless giggles from adults when he said he wanted to go to see the horse | 12:34 |
| MooDoo | ow am ya davmor2 | 12:57 |
| davmor2 | Busy as hell and going for Lunch other than that grand, how am yow MooDoo | 12:58 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: yeah i'm doing ok thanks | 13:02 |
| awilkins | Pi 3! | 13:06 |
| zmoylan-pi | there goes a lot of geeks pocket money... :-) | 13:12 |
| popey | RS have sold another 1000 since I last looked at ~12:00 | 13:21 |
| foobarry | i still don't own any Rpi | 13:35 |
| foobarry | maybe when my son is older and is coding | 13:36 |
| diddledan | apparently Scott Kelly of the Year in Space drank 193 gallons of sweat and urine | 13:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | dead handy for tiny always on device at home doing your bidding | 13:41 |
| diddledan | ref: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/25/science/scott-kelly-astronaut-year-in-space-numbers.html | 13:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | did they start drinking their urine _before_ the water ran out? :-P | 13:42 |
| foobarry | blackadder2 | 13:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | redberad rum, long on beard, short on legs... | 13:44 |
| diddledan | if anyone has a spare 2grand handy they can buy a hololens developer kit | 13:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | i could corner the dumbphone supply with that kind of money!! | 13:47 |
| diddledan | https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us/development-edition | 13:47 |
| diddledan | oh, you gotta live in us or canadia | 13:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | if you can call it living... no decent crisps... :-) | 13:48 |
| diddledan | nor chocolate | 13:49 |
| diddledan | I wonder how IRC could be reimagined for holocomputing | 13:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | matrix with channels text super imposed on channels text so that you can focus deeper to the next channel | 13:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | done with hand gestures of course so that you can slap random passers by :-) | 13:51 |
| diddledan | lol | 13:53 |
| diddledan | so the slap action is depicted by an avatar bent-over that you literally slap on the bum | 13:53 |
| diddledan | you could have a meter of how strongly you slap them, too | 13:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | also punch and tickle would be gesturs so a reboot is punch, slap and tickle... | 13:55 |
| diddledan | lol | 13:55 |
| MooDoo | you bloomin idiots ;) | 13:55 |
| diddledan | us? nevar | 13:55 |
| * zmoylan-pi can't wait so next annoying jerk can get their lights punched out and my apology is 'sorry thought i was in vr...' | 13:56 | |
| diddledan | I completely resemble that remark! | 13:56 |
| diddledan | no, wait, resent! | 13:56 |
| MooDoo | :) | 14:43 |
| foobarry | anyone doing linux desktop virtualisation for remote users? | 14:47 |
| foobarry | like maybe a class of 30 ppl | 14:48 |
| diddledan | http://arstechnica.co.uk/apple/2016/02/os-x-blacklist-accidentally-disables-ethernet-in-os-x-10-11/ | 17:14 |
| diddledan | and hilarity ensued | 17:14 |
| popey | golly | 17:16 |
| awilkins | But surely they can just download the update..... ;-) | 17:30 |
| diddledan | that's actually the truth | 17:31 |
| diddledan | that's how they fix it | 17:31 |
| diddledan | you need to run `sudo softwareupdate --background` | 17:32 |
| diddledan | the alternative seems to be to reboot in safe/recovery and run `rm -rf “/Volumes/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Extensions/AppleKextExcludeList.kext”` | 17:34 |
| diddledan | they do list reinstalling OS X as a viable option, which IMO isn't | 17:36 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| === Matrixiumn is now known as Xack | ||
| diddledan | o_O http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/morgan-freeman-waze-gps-navigator-1.3462432 | 20:37 |
| mapps | hi all | 21:15 |
| mapps | il start watching 11/22/63 next, meant to be v good:) | 21:18 |
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