=== mappps is now known as mapps [07:58] morning all === Guest56535 is now known as MooDoo [07:58] or morning all even [08:06] monday, and sodding rain... that is all... [08:09] that's a good day then :) [08:09] though there is the new rasp pi 3 for sale... so we got that going for us... [08:46] <\sv> morning my loveable penguins [08:47] *sqwak* [08:47] <\sv> do penguins squark? :P [08:48] <\sv> im trying to set up google authenticator to auth into my ubuntu 15.10 laptop - as it's portable i'd like to have added security [08:48] get a pink laptop and put my little pony sticks all over it.... no one will ever touch it... :-) [08:51] and what's wrong with MLP, Rainbow Dash is my fave :D [09:02] morning [09:07] Morning all [09:08] morning [09:18] <\sv> how toenable text mode so it auto gui's but then i have the OPTION of text in the case i break something? [09:19] wat? [09:19] ctrl-alt-f1 [09:19] will give you text console [09:19] ctrl-alt-f7 will get you back [09:19] <\sv> foobarry, used to. no longer does it in 15.10 [09:19] ctrl-alt-f2? [09:19] <\sv> none of them [09:20] wow [09:20] * foobarry is an LTS guy [09:20] <\sv> foobarry, familier with pam? [09:22] uh [09:22] they work here [09:22] so not sure why they don't work for you [09:22] <\sv> popey, noooo pam file [09:23] I don't know what you're saying. Use more words. [09:24] <\sv> lines 29 and 30 of the code i sent you; do they look right? [09:27] i have no idea [09:28] sounds to me like someone needs to reinstall [09:28] <\sv> SuperMatt, no. im trying to make it more secure [09:28] have you been fiddling \sv [09:28] i think you have! [10:05] Good morning, and happy "Bang F5 on the HTC Website Until Your Finger Gets a Blister Day" " [10:06] you can hit f5 with your nose... [10:10] morning boys and girls. [10:16] hi [10:38] hi [10:40] howdy brobostigon [10:42] yay reccurding paypal payments, when don't really want it to happen [10:43] at least I have figured out how to properly cancale those now, but after woulds [10:53] hi popey and MooDoo [10:55] howdy :D [11:26] everyone!!! PI3!!!! [11:26] just been reading about them :D [11:27] sneaky being their birthday [11:27] I thought something might be up with their blog post over the weekend that had a celebration video for their birthday early purportedly to not get swamped with celebration posts today [11:28] omg. it's got wifi [11:29] but still only 1gb of ram [11:29] Yeah, there were rumours for the last week or so [11:29] aye [11:29] I ordered mine as soon as I saw a tweet with a url in it [11:29] i suppose they have to hold something back for + version [11:29] got two arriving tomorrow [11:29] \o/ [11:30] bluetooth as well diddledan [11:31] the pi in general is fast becoming a general-purpose PC rather than as MS would have you believe an IoT thing [11:32] bit too little ram still to finally haul my sister's Dell GX620 into the electric waste [11:32] I had high hopes [11:32] though I do think that MS' Win10IoT is a nice little OS for single-purpose devices === Seeker_ is now known as Seeker` [11:34] I'd like for snappy to be an equivalent thing in linuxland - the main thing I like about the Win10 is that it drives the display with a single full-screen app that can't be closed by the end-user without connecting from another device [11:34] Good morning peeps :) [11:35] allo bigcalm [11:35] bigcalm, he often comes-over with a violent dose of large-tranquil feelings :-p [11:35] ? [11:36] Oh [11:36] bigcalm, being silly [11:36] Or factual [11:36] lol [11:36] I have tea, I'm happy [11:36] \o/ [11:36] I have cola [11:36] I might have to wander across and get some milk so I can tea [11:37] to the shop* [11:39] Is there an app that will kill (and hopefully report) if a process is taking 100% CPU for more than X minutes? I have to power cycle one of my Digital Ocean servers every few days because something gets its knickers in a twist and hogs the CPU forever more [11:39] HAH! the pi is now the UK's all-time best-selling computer! [11:39] hmm, not sure [11:39] you'd think there'd be some kind of watchdog-type thing available _somewhere_ [11:41] I wonder what's meant by custom-hardened in this statement: a custom-hardened 1.2GHz 64-bit quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 [11:41] that's from eben upton on the piblog [11:42] a flash of light won't make it crash? :-) [11:43] http://www.zdnet.com/article/raspberry-pi-2-power-crashes-when-exposed-to-xenon-flash/#! [11:43] lol. pigate! [11:43] or was it flashgate? [11:43] diddledan: it's about sales, only the cpc amstrad has sold more units, although I don't think that will last long [11:44] the Rassbery Pi can also run RISC OS, which is interesting [11:44] nah flashgate is been held for the conservative conference party... :-P [11:44] zmoylan-pi loves that thar riscos [11:44] zmoylan-pi is antiquated :-p [11:44] he still uses a nokia, dun'thcaknow [11:45] AND a rasp pi... b [11:45] not even a b+ [11:45] nope [11:45] * diddledan sighs [11:45] mind usng a dumbphone is now fashionable so i'll have to find my semaphore flags... [11:47] hmm, there's mention that "Phil Elwell developed the wireless LAN and Bluetooth software" <-- does that mean the firmware or have they got a simplified stack for folk to get-to-grips with programming it? [11:50] it's nice to see the compute module is being updated [11:51] though I wonder how many of those are actually being sold [11:53] i wonder how sales of pi's and their ilk are harming pc sales when they're so cheap [11:54] aye. [11:54] I think only technical enough people generally buy Rassbery Pi's, and education a bit here and there [11:54] and maybe some technical busineses to [11:54] I'm hoping for a large memory upgrade in the next pi release :-) [11:54] general average consumer etc, nope [11:54] joe and jane average public, no [11:54] so Rassbery Pi's in general have probably had little effect on desktop PC's [11:55] and lap tops [11:55] they aren't design to [11:55] *designed [11:55] the pi3 if it had 2gb of ram would have been a great little lite desktop [11:56] 1gb is too little for web browsing these days [11:57] zmoylan-pi: it's fine for browsing just use dillo or w3m :D [11:58] i tried midori and qupzilla as well as those but none of them quite did all i wanted browser wise [11:59] zmoylan-pi: just use emacs and be done :D [11:59] wget all my pages... [12:00] i did think about doing that... :-) [12:00] but you're starting to get a bit too matrixy at that point... :-D [12:02] did I see recently someone had created a linux distro that was essentially emacs directly ontop of the kernel? [12:03] were is emacsos for phones?? [12:03] you just need terminator, mutt, w3m and moc, then you don't need a gui :D [12:03] err. I do not want a terminator! [12:03] unless it is bent to my will and not a nefarious AI [12:03] i don't think you get a choice in having a terminator... that's not how that franchise worked... [12:03] I demonstrated Ubuntu Phone at my local LUG two years ago. One guy said "Can it run emacs?" "I won't buy it if it doesn't run Emacs!" [12:04] A silly thought experiment: If Linux/RPi had a very distinctive crash screen ala BSOD, would it _help_ awareness/adoption or hurt it? [12:04] popey, did he have an android? was that running emacs? [12:04] no [12:04] there is emacs for android [12:04] he had a dumbphone [12:04] and was that dumbphone running emacs? [12:04] Think brand awareness and multidecade trends [12:04] proper dumbphone :-) [12:04] lunchtime [12:04] if not, then I fail to see his argument [12:05] i predict an omlette! [12:05] not a riot? [12:05] indeed [12:05] sung to that tune [12:05] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hamKl-su8PE [12:05] at least a dumbphone will crack and egg and not get damaged :-) [12:05] I have cracked many eggs and not got damaged :-p [12:06] I did get damaged when I cracked a wall though. my poor noggin. [12:07] was the wall ok? [12:07] I suspect sandisk are having trouble with sales of their SSD lines. they keep being offered at reduced rates. [12:08] today only at maplin AND dabs they're being sold at approx £100 for the 480GB [12:09] that's "today-only" and not "today, only at" [12:09] * zmoylan-pi spots 10,000 mah power bank been sold this thursday at lidl for €18 [12:09] as to the wall, I think I dented it's feelings a little but it stood firm [12:09] i wonder how long it would power a rasp pi for... [12:10] good question [12:11] 10Amp-hours @ consumption of ~500miliamp consumption = ~20 hours. at 1amp consumption (more likely than 500ma) it'll be ~10 hours [12:13] and at 2amp consumption (multiple USB's attached) it'll be ~5 hours. at max rated 2.5amp it'll be ~4 hours [12:13] (that max rating I used the recommended PSU rating for the PI3) [12:13] thanks, i must learn to breakdown power usage rates/capacities [12:15] 10,000 miliamphours means 1miliamp for 10,000 hours or 10,000amps for 1 hour - then sliding scale between, e.g. 5amps (5000miliamps) for 2 hours [12:15] 10,000miliamps, NOT 10,000AMPS!!! [12:15] that makes sense... [12:17] 10,000 amps would be... *calculates* 3.6seconds [12:17] for 10,000 amps we'd need a delorean and a lightning conductor... [12:18] plus an exploding battery :-p [12:18] 3.6seconds AND a mini explosion [12:18] as long as it leaves streaks of fire i'll be happy :-) [12:18] more likely streaks of another kind (in your underwear) [12:19] that's why you buy stripy underwear!! pffft... amateur... [12:19] and burnt eyebrows AND a few expletives [12:26] wtf? someone sent an email to the polymer (a google project) mailing list which appears to be a direct rip from education materials with no explanation: https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer#!msg/polymer-dev/n5CRhEwxQ2M/G5GmIUeoEwAJ [12:27] are they using education material as an advertisement of what they're trying to sell? I just don't get it at all. [12:28] Looks like spam to sell their courses [12:29] Perhaps a couple are loss-leaders? Either way, I never trust companies who spam. [12:30] not even hornell who make spam? [12:31] I don't think I have eaten "specially processed artifical meat" since I was about 6. [12:31] (I know it's no an acronym, and why it's actually called 'spam' the above is a mere, pathetic, jest) [12:32] zmoylan-pi: no I bet there is horse in it [12:33] davmor2: Horse is tasty [12:33] has more of a kick... [12:34] my nephew used to pronounce it as though the s and e were transposed [12:34] That could be amusing/problematic [12:34] which led to endless giggles from adults when he said he wanted to go to see the horse [12:57] ow am ya davmor2 [12:58] Busy as hell and going for Lunch other than that grand, how am yow MooDoo [13:02] davmor2: yeah i'm doing ok thanks [13:06] Pi 3! [13:12] there goes a lot of geeks pocket money... :-) [13:21] RS have sold another 1000 since I last looked at ~12:00 [13:35] i still don't own any Rpi [13:36] maybe when my son is older and is coding [13:41] apparently Scott Kelly of the Year in Space drank 193 gallons of sweat and urine [13:41] dead handy for tiny always on device at home doing your bidding [13:41] ref: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/02/25/science/scott-kelly-astronaut-year-in-space-numbers.html [13:42] did they start drinking their urine _before_ the water ran out? :-P [13:43] blackadder2 [13:44] redberad rum, long on beard, short on legs... [13:47] if anyone has a spare 2grand handy they can buy a hololens developer kit [13:47] i could corner the dumbphone supply with that kind of money!! [13:47] https://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us/development-edition [13:48] oh, you gotta live in us or canadia [13:48] if you can call it living... no decent crisps... :-) [13:49] nor chocolate [13:49] I wonder how IRC could be reimagined for holocomputing [13:51] matrix with channels text super imposed on channels text so that you can focus deeper to the next channel [13:51] done with hand gestures of course so that you can slap random passers by :-) [13:53] lol [13:53] so the slap action is depicted by an avatar bent-over that you literally slap on the bum [13:54] you could have a meter of how strongly you slap them, too [13:55] also punch and tickle would be gesturs so a reboot is punch, slap and tickle... [13:55] lol [13:55] you bloomin idiots ;) [13:55] us? nevar [13:56] * zmoylan-pi can't wait so next annoying jerk can get their lights punched out and my apology is 'sorry thought i was in vr...' [13:56] I completely resemble that remark! [13:56] no, wait, resent! [14:43] :) [14:47] anyone doing linux desktop virtualisation for remote users? [14:48] like maybe a class of 30 ppl [17:14] http://arstechnica.co.uk/apple/2016/02/os-x-blacklist-accidentally-disables-ethernet-in-os-x-10-11/ [17:14] and hilarity ensued [17:16] golly [17:30] But surely they can just download the update..... ;-) [17:31] that's actually the truth [17:31] that's how they fix it [17:32] you need to run `sudo softwareupdate --background` [17:34] the alternative seems to be to reboot in safe/recovery and run `rm -rf “/Volumes/Macintosh HD/System/Library/Extensions/AppleKextExcludeList.kext”` [17:36] they do list reinstalling OS X as a viable option, which IMO isn't === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === Matrixiumn is now known as Xack [20:37] o_O http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/morgan-freeman-waze-gps-navigator-1.3462432 [21:15] hi all [21:18] il start watching 11/22/63 next, meant to be v good:)