| jcastro | jrwren: I use bcache, bcachefs is something else | 13:24 |
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| jrwren | ah, I see. | 13:38 |
| jrwren | nodoubleg: I'll try 6k files in a dir on ssd and see what the numbers are like. | 13:39 |
| jcastro | rick_h__: this phone is awesome, why did you get rid of it? | 15:01 |
| rick_h__ | jcastro: I found I kept using the N6 I bought | 15:01 |
| rick_h__ | jcastro: not sure what it was, but I just found I kept reaching for hte 6 | 15:01 |
| jcastro | oh, so you just preferred the bigger screen | 15:01 |
| jcastro | I got one for myself just now too | 15:01 |
| rick_h__ | jcastro: screen was a little nicer, battery life seemed a hair better | 15:01 |
| jcastro | rick_h__: I am in the middle of switching to project fi | 15:02 |
| rick_h__ | jcastro: I actually went back to the motox pure the other day | 15:02 |
| rick_h__ | since I didn't get one because of the size, but if I'm running a N6, might as well try | 15:02 |
| jrwren | project fi scares me. more ways for google to track my every move. | 15:05 |
| jcastro | shrug | 15:05 |
| cmaloney | Project Fi scares me: one more thing for Google to kill off. :) | 16:06 |
| rick_h__ | yea, I've gotten to rely so much on google voice that I'm nervous | 16:07 |
| cmaloney | But then again, nothing is permanent | 16:07 |
| cmaloney | rick_h__: same | 16:07 |
| cmaloney | if they kill GVoice I'm screwed | 16:07 |
| cmaloney | I'll have to port that number or something | 16:07 |
| jcastro | I dropped gvoice a long time ago | 16:11 |
| jcastro | though, tbh, managing fi is so trivial compared to normal telco account garbage | 16:11 |
| jcastro | like, I need help, blam, a little gtalk widget pops up and I can talk to the guy | 16:12 |
| jcastro | "you are number X in line, estimated 2 minute wait" | 16:12 |
| jcastro | I guess having my phone company be more like aws and gmail, with little-to-zero interaction is just too nice to pass up. | 16:13 |
| rick_h__ | my big thing is that I've just used the one number, done calls/text from the computer, internationally, all the time | 16:13 |
| jrwren | i thought they did kill gvoice? | 16:13 |
| jcastro | rick_h__: yeah but these days number portability is trivial | 16:14 |
| jcastro | when gvoice launched it wasn't | 16:14 |
| rick_h__ | jcastro: right, but the computer based using of calls/texts that look like your phone number isn't? | 16:14 |
| jcastro | oh you mean when you call from like your PC? | 16:14 |
| rick_h__ | right | 16:14 |
| rick_h__ | when I travel and such I use that a ton | 16:14 |
| jcastro | oh ok | 16:15 |
| jcastro | fi has a bunch of gvoice features, I wonder what the result will be, I guess I'll call you when my number transfer is complete, heh | 16:17 |
| rick_h__ | so I saw a rumor that in the hangouts next version it'll remove the option for sms | 16:17 |
| rick_h__ | which is :( | 16:17 |
| rick_h__ | because they moved sms from gvoice to hangouts | 16:17 |
| jcastro | hangouts is infuriating to use | 16:17 |
| rick_h__ | so that'll kill that off and make me use my non-voice cell number for sms | 16:17 |
| jcastro | I love that random people's stupid streams are integrated with my sms | 16:18 |
| jcastro | it's like, rage inducing | 16:18 |
| jcastro | oh, that's something I wanted, connect my personal texts to people broadcasting their dogs on G+, awesome | 16:19 |
| * rick_h__ is missing the G+ -> hangouts/sms connection | 16:20 | |
| jcastro | they consolidated everything into the hangout app | 16:21 |
| jcastro | so when someone you know does a hangout-on-air or whatever, it spams you | 16:21 |
| rick_h__ | gotcha | 16:22 |
| jcastro | it's just like they shoved everything into a new app, which is terrible compared to the thing it replaced | 16:23 |
| jcastro | so you can't really turn it off | 16:24 |
| jcastro | Signal has pretty much everything I need | 16:25 |
| jcastro | and Telegram isn't awesome but it isn't horrible either so between those two things I'm set on messaging | 16:25 |
| rick_h__ | yea, I've dodged facebook but it means I'm an SMS person all day every day | 16:26 |
| jcastro | signal has one bummer where the desktop app won't let me SMS to someone unless they have signal, which is a bummer | 16:27 |
| jcastro | apparently one-messenger-to-rule-them-all is too hard for computing. :-/ | 16:27 |
| greg-g | Signal or fgtfo | 16:28 |
| rick_h__ | yea, well it's too hard for businesses to get into | 16:28 |
| jrwren | Messages.app works :p | 16:28 |
| rick_h__ | oh, the first f threw me off for a second | 16:28 |
| rick_h__ | hah! jrwren brings in the wagon of trolls! | 16:28 |
| * rick_h__ hasn't heard of signal and looks it up | 16:29 | |
| jrwren | i kinda like the extra irreverance of fgtfo :] | 16:29 |
| jrwren | signal is cool! | 16:29 |
| jcastro | if signal had an sms bridge for their desktop app it'd be perfect. | 16:29 |
| jcastro | the desktop app is admitedly beta though | 16:29 |
| rick_h__ | but it's like telegram, it's all about getting everyone into the same app | 16:29 |
| * rick_h__ is so sick of app silos that you can never get everyone in | 16:30 | |
| rick_h__ | I've got telegram, whatsapp, etc already | 16:30 |
| rick_h__ | why another one? | 16:30 |
| jcastro | rick_h__: signal is the only one that has end-to-end encryption | 16:30 |
| jrwren | yup | 16:30 |
| greg-g | I hate their desktop app being a chrome app :/ | 16:30 |
| rick_h__ | fine, they can listen in to what my camper will cost me, oh well | 16:30 |
| jcastro | it's not supposed to be like a telegram, it's a drop in replacement for your SMS app | 16:30 |
| rick_h__ | greg-g: soon it'll be FF compatible as FF reworks apps/extensions :) | 16:30 |
| rick_h__ | jcastro: but only if everyone else is on it? | 16:31 |
| jcastro | and as a bonus on android it's a better messaging app than hangouts anyway, so even if you hate freedom it's a nobrainer | 16:31 |
| jrwren | EVERYONE needs telegram, signal, whatsapp, slack, gitr, irc, gtalk, aim, icq, y!m, msn, skype, kik, snapchat, and a few others. | 16:31 |
| jcastro | rick_h__: if the other person uses signal yes | 16:31 |
| rick_h__ | jcastro: reading the description the only "SMS" is "avoiding SMS fees" | 16:31 |
| jcastro | but the genius is that it's transparent | 16:31 |
| jrwren | greg-g: high five! I hate chrome apps. | 16:31 |
| jcastro | like, I install it on jill's phone | 16:31 |
| jcastro | and our texts are encrypted | 16:31 |
| jcastro | but if she texts some other person who doesn't have signal it all still works | 16:32 |
| jcastro | it's basically invisible | 16:32 |
| jcastro | so like, you don't have to tell everyone to switch to signal | 16:32 |
| jcastro | you just use it on your devices and you're all set | 16:32 |
| jcastro | rick_h__: signal is also OSS and has been audited | 16:33 |
| jcastro | it's not like telegram where they just make shit up about their security | 16:33 |
| jcastro | rick_h__: you just install, set it as default, and you're done, it's nice. | 16:34 |
| rick_h__ | jcastro: so you can do messages from the app to SMS users not on signal? | 16:58 |
| * rick_h__ is on calls so in/out of this lovely conversation | 16:58 | |
| jcastro | yes | 17:00 |
| * cmaloney still likes hangouts | 17:15 | |
| cmaloney | though playing "where is my SMS now" is a bit inguriating | 17:15 |
| cmaloney | infuriating, rather | 17:15 |
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