[13:24] jrwren: I use bcache, bcachefs is something else [13:38] ah, I see. [13:39] nodoubleg: I'll try 6k files in a dir on ssd and see what the numbers are like. [15:01] rick_h__: this phone is awesome, why did you get rid of it? [15:01] jcastro: I found I kept using the N6 I bought [15:01] jcastro: not sure what it was, but I just found I kept reaching for hte 6 [15:01] oh, so you just preferred the bigger screen [15:01] I got one for myself just now too [15:01] jcastro: screen was a little nicer, battery life seemed a hair better [15:02] rick_h__: I am in the middle of switching to project fi [15:02] jcastro: I actually went back to the motox pure the other day [15:02] since I didn't get one because of the size, but if I'm running a N6, might as well try [15:05] project fi scares me. more ways for google to track my every move. [15:05] shrug [16:06] Project Fi scares me: one more thing for Google to kill off. :) [16:07] yea, I've gotten to rely so much on google voice that I'm nervous [16:07] But then again, nothing is permanent [16:07] rick_h__: same [16:07] if they kill GVoice I'm screwed [16:07] I'll have to port that number or something [16:11] I dropped gvoice a long time ago [16:11] though, tbh, managing fi is so trivial compared to normal telco account garbage [16:12] like, I need help, blam, a little gtalk widget pops up and I can talk to the guy [16:12] "you are number X in line, estimated 2 minute wait" [16:13] I guess having my phone company be more like aws and gmail, with little-to-zero interaction is just too nice to pass up. [16:13] my big thing is that I've just used the one number, done calls/text from the computer, internationally, all the time [16:13] i thought they did kill gvoice? [16:14] rick_h__: yeah but these days number portability is trivial [16:14] when gvoice launched it wasn't [16:14] jcastro: right, but the computer based using of calls/texts that look like your phone number isn't? [16:14] oh you mean when you call from like your PC? [16:14] right [16:14] when I travel and such I use that a ton [16:15] oh ok [16:17] fi has a bunch of gvoice features, I wonder what the result will be, I guess I'll call you when my number transfer is complete, heh [16:17] so I saw a rumor that in the hangouts next version it'll remove the option for sms [16:17] which is :( [16:17] because they moved sms from gvoice to hangouts [16:17] hangouts is infuriating to use [16:17] so that'll kill that off and make me use my non-voice cell number for sms [16:18] I love that random people's stupid streams are integrated with my sms [16:18] it's like, rage inducing [16:19] oh, that's something I wanted, connect my personal texts to people broadcasting their dogs on G+, awesome [16:20] * rick_h__ is missing the G+ -> hangouts/sms connection [16:21] they consolidated everything into the hangout app [16:21] so when someone you know does a hangout-on-air or whatever, it spams you [16:22] gotcha [16:23] it's just like they shoved everything into a new app, which is terrible compared to the thing it replaced [16:24] so you can't really turn it off [16:25] Signal has pretty much everything I need [16:25] and Telegram isn't awesome but it isn't horrible either so between those two things I'm set on messaging [16:26] yea, I've dodged facebook but it means I'm an SMS person all day every day [16:27] signal has one bummer where the desktop app won't let me SMS to someone unless they have signal, which is a bummer [16:27] apparently one-messenger-to-rule-them-all is too hard for computing. :-/ [16:28] Signal or fgtfo [16:28] yea, well it's too hard for businesses to get into [16:28] Messages.app works :p [16:28] oh, the first f threw me off for a second [16:28] hah! jrwren brings in the wagon of trolls! [16:29] * rick_h__ hasn't heard of signal and looks it up [16:29] i kinda like the extra irreverance of fgtfo :] [16:29] signal is cool! [16:29] if signal had an sms bridge for their desktop app it'd be perfect. [16:29] the desktop app is admitedly beta though [16:29] but it's like telegram, it's all about getting everyone into the same app [16:30] * rick_h__ is so sick of app silos that you can never get everyone in [16:30] I've got telegram, whatsapp, etc already [16:30] why another one? [16:30] rick_h__: signal is the only one that has end-to-end encryption [16:30] yup [16:30] I hate their desktop app being a chrome app :/ [16:30] fine, they can listen in to what my camper will cost me, oh well [16:30] it's not supposed to be like a telegram, it's a drop in replacement for your SMS app [16:30] greg-g: soon it'll be FF compatible as FF reworks apps/extensions :) [16:31] jcastro: but only if everyone else is on it? [16:31] and as a bonus on android it's a better messaging app than hangouts anyway, so even if you hate freedom it's a nobrainer [16:31] EVERYONE needs telegram, signal, whatsapp, slack, gitr, irc, gtalk, aim, icq, y!m, msn, skype, kik, snapchat, and a few others. [16:31] rick_h__: if the other person uses signal yes [16:31] jcastro: reading the description the only "SMS" is "avoiding SMS fees" [16:31] but the genius is that it's transparent [16:31] greg-g: high five! I hate chrome apps. [16:31] like, I install it on jill's phone [16:31] and our texts are encrypted [16:32] but if she texts some other person who doesn't have signal it all still works [16:32] it's basically invisible [16:32] so like, you don't have to tell everyone to switch to signal [16:32] you just use it on your devices and you're all set [16:33] rick_h__: signal is also OSS and has been audited [16:33] it's not like telegram where they just make shit up about their security [16:34] rick_h__: you just install, set it as default, and you're done, it's nice. [16:58] jcastro: so you can do messages from the app to SMS users not on signal? [16:58] * rick_h__ is on calls so in/out of this lovely conversation [17:00] yes [17:15] * cmaloney still likes hangouts [17:15] though playing "where is my SMS now" is a bit inguriating [17:15] infuriating, rather