[00:00] <Jordan_U> ramkam2013: None that I'm aware of. You'll need to *carefully* delete the existing partition table entry and create a new partition with exactly the same starting sector but a later ending sector, then you'll nees to use resize2fs to make the filesystem use this new space.
[00:03] <ramkam2013> Jordan_U: i'm not very litterate with disk & partition. looking for a good tuto
[00:04] <ramkam2013> Jordan_U: however, from what i see in cfdisk, the FS type is a LVM2_member, so maybe using lvextend would be possible and simpler ?
[00:07] <RoundDuckMann> dd: error writing ‘/dev/sda’: No space left on device
[00:07] <RoundDuckMann> 228937+0 records in
[00:07] <RoundDuckMann> 228936+0 records out
[00:07] <RoundDuckMann> 240057409536 bytes (240 GB) copied, 621.433 s, 386 MB/s
[00:07] <RoundDuckMann> Command exited with non-zero status 1
[00:07] <RoundDuckMann> 0.00user 101.22system 10:21.43elapsed 16%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 2872maxresident)k
[00:07] <RoundDuckMann> 12inputs+468862128outputs (1major+351minor)pagefaults 0swaps
[00:08] <k1l_> RoundDuckMann: why are you using dd?
[00:08] <RoundDuckMann> Just to make sure, and other reasons.
[00:09] <RoundDuckMann> Yes it sounds stupid...
[00:09] <k1l_> just run the installer.
[00:09] <RoundDuckMann> "nuke it from above, just to make sure" :P
[00:10] <Ben64> make sure what
[00:10] <RoundDuckMann> Ben64: That it's empty.
[00:10] <k1l_> some myths he heard from the guys not having a clue, i guess
[00:10] <Ben64> not necessary at all
[00:11] <Ben64> especially on a ssd, you don't want to make unnecessary writes
[00:11] <RoundDuckMann> Also, is 'dd: error writing ‘/dev/sda’: No space left on device' normal? Also, that was just to curiosity (I think) and OCD. :P
[00:12] <RoundDuckMann> But yeah, the extra writes... Is there a way to check health of an SSD?
[00:12] <bekks> RoundDuckMann: That depends on your dd command.
[00:12] <RippyDippy> leave
[00:12] <Robr3rd> So now that we're in 2016, what's the state of swap partitions in Linux? For both a desktop and laptop with 12GB RAM each (usually @ 90% usage under load)
[00:12] <k1l_> RoundDuckMann: just stop that messing around. start the installer and install ubuntu.
[00:13] <RoundDuckMann> I did "sudo time dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M
[00:13] <RoundDuckMann> "
[00:13] <RoundDuckMann> But ok then... :P
[00:13] <bekks> Robr3rd: Depends on your request to being able to hibernate (suspend to RAM).
[00:13] <bekks> RoundDuckMann: Which is quite bad.
[00:13] <RoundDuckMann> bekks:   What happened?
[00:14] <k1l_> Robr3rd: want hibernation?
[00:14] <RoundDuckMann> besides zeroing out drive
[00:14] <bekks> RoundDuckMann: you are writing data in blocks of 512 bytes, causing a lot of unnecessary IO.
[00:14] <RoundDuckMann> *gulp*
[00:14] <RoundDuckMann> I'm an idiot
[00:14] <bekks> RoundDuckMann: However, just use the installer.
[00:14] <k1l_> RoundDuckMann: you make your ssd aging a lot there. so stop that as been told several times now.
[00:15] <RoundDuckMann> ok then. I will leave.
[00:15] <bekks> Leaving will not solve that issue :D
[00:16] <Robr3rd> bekks lets make this a 2-stage question. Stage 1 (easy): Desktop. Is there any value in swap with no hibernate requirement? I've noticed sometimes I can't even hit a virtual terminal to troubleshoot on a different machine without swap but my desktop WITH swap lets me is that a coincidence?
[00:17] <Bashing-om> Robr3rd: Swap is a dependency on how much ram is installed .
[00:18] <RippyDippy> hey guys. How do I open network manager from command line.
[00:18] <bekks> Robr3rd: With no hibernation requirement, you might not use swap at all. I strongly suggest not doing so without setting vm.swappiness to zero, and without configuring the OOM killer.
[00:18] <k1l_> Robr3rd: if you want hibernation you need swap. if you know you will use al that ram for vms or video editign or such you want swap since you dont want the oomkiller to start.
[00:18] <bekks> Robr3rd: nmcli
[00:18] <jesper_> Hey guys, I think I broke my Ubuntu MATE installation a bit
[00:18] <jesper_> Anyone in the mood to help me out? haha
[00:18] <k1l_> Robr3rd: if not, then you dont need a swap
[00:18] <bekks> k1l_: Actually you WANT the OOM killer to start, but behave differently from the default.
[00:19] <k1l_> ok
[00:19] <Ben64> jesper_: explain the issue fully
[00:20] <bekks> The default for the OOM killer is: "in case of exceeded RAM allocation, start to randomly kill processes." - Instead, you actually ALWAYS want: "In case of exceeded RAM, kill the application which caused the exceed."
[00:20] <jesper_> Ben64: I had some issues with games starting on the wrong monitor and well - I couldn't do anything when they where running so I thought I'd be clever and separate the monitors by that x-thing in the Nvidia panel and now I can't click anything, it's like the monitors are overlapping
[00:20] <Ben64> bekks: how do i configure that
[00:20] <jesper_> Ben64: I can't open the terminal either
[00:21] <Ben64> jesper_: x-thing?
[00:21] <jesper_> the x-monitor or whatever it's called
[00:21] <jesper_> It said both my monitors where on x-level 0 or something like that
[00:21] <Robr3rd> bekks, k1l_: Okay, so that resolves the question for the desktop -- basically that it doesn't matter unless I need more RAM in general...in which case I should probably just buy more RAM outright, correct?
[00:22] <Ben64> jesper_: easy mode - disconnect one monitor, reboot
[00:22] <jesper_> Ben64: Haha, I think you might be on to something
[00:22] <Jordan_U> ramkam2013: LVM actually adds steps for this particular use, rather than reducing them. For LVM you need to make the partition larger, then make the volume group larger, then make the logical volume larger, and finally resize the filesystem: https://techmomblog.wordpress.com/tag/pvextend/
[00:22] <Ben64> Robr3rd: more ram is always good
[00:22] <Robr3rd> Ben64: and cheap
[00:23] <bekks> Ben64: Gimme a minute, gotta take a look for the toddler here.
[00:23] <Ben64> yeah, ram prices have fell a lot lately
[00:23] <ramkam2013> Jordan_U: i'm following this now - https://codesilence.wordpress.com/2013/03/14/live-resizing-of-an-ext4-filesytem-on-linux/
[00:23] <Robr3rd> So on a laptop...I'm not sure if I understand...how it's even working right now.
[00:24] <profall> I have on-board motherboard sound card Realtek ALC892
[00:24] <profall> Do I need to install drivers for Ubuntu 14.04 or will it work fine out of the box?
[00:24] <jesper_> Ben64: You where right on the money, sorry to bother you haha - I should've figured that one out myself
[00:24] <Ben64> profall: most devices work out of the box
[00:24] <Ben64> jesper_: no problem. you should be able to reconnect and open nvidia-settings and set stuff properly
[00:24] <Robr3rd> bekks, k1l_: I have 12GB of RAM and no swap, but I think It's hibernating or something not sure. If I shut the lid or hit the hardware "hibernate" keyboard combo then it...I guess hibernates... whenI open it I can resume.
[00:25] <Robr3rd> But there's no RAM. So...is this just a suspend mode that I'm misunderstanding?
[00:25] <profall> Ben64 it is quieter then usual
[00:25] <k1l_> Robr3rd: that is standby
[00:25] <k1l_> Robr3rd: that is "keep power on ram". hibernation is "i power donw ram so i need to copy that to swap"
[00:25] <Robr3rd> s/no RAM/no swap
[00:25] <Jordan_U> ramkam2013: That post doesn't cover the additional steps needed for LVM.
[00:26] <jesper_> Ben64: I don't know how I would set things back properly though - I don't see the settings for my second monitor since it's not plugged in
[00:26] <Ben64> jesper_: plug it back in :D
[00:26] <jesper_> Ben64: Nevermind, I see the reset button now!
[00:26] <Robr3rd> Okay. So the only fundamental difference is that suspend will drain the battery (and resume quicker, but on an SSD I'd imagine that's negligible)
[00:26] <jesper_> Ben64: Would you recommend me resetting it or plugging the monitor back in?
[00:27] <Ben64> jesper_: should be able to plug it back in, then configure it
[00:27] <Robr3rd> k1l_: ^ (keep forgetting to prefix the message with usernames... It's been awhile since I've been on IRC, heheh
[00:28] <bekks> Ben64: Set "vm.panic_on_oom=0", "vm.swappiness=0", "oom_kill_allocating_task=1" in /etc/sysctl.conf
[00:28] <Ben64> bekks: thanks, didn't know that was an option
[00:29] <bekks> Ben64: you can even configure the OOM to be disabled, but that might impose other serious issues.
[00:29] <virtuosoj> Just downloaded Xenial 16.04!  Any tips for first time install?
[00:29] <virtuosoj> Any changes in Unity? Is Unity 8 any good?
[00:30] <mcphail> bekks: Out of interest, what does the vm.swappiness do if there is no swap in use?
[00:30] <bekks> mcphail: actually nothing.
[00:31] <virtuosoj> why is Unity the only DE with a native dock
[00:31] <mcphail> bekks: thanks for the oom_kill_allocating_task hint. I hadn't realised that could be a problem. I thought the memory-hogging process was killed by default
[00:31] <jesper_> Ben64: It's not working as I'd hoped... If I reset it, it still shows everything doubled on my monitor
[00:31] <k1l_> Robr3rd: its both calles suspend: suspend2disk (hibernation which needs swap) and suspend2ram (standby)
[00:32] <bekks> mcphail: thats what a user expects, but unfortunately isnt the default. :)
[00:32] <Ben64> jesper_: well you have to set the positioning correctly in nvidia-settings
[00:33] <bekks> Ben64: just for the record: "vm.oom_kill_allocating_task=1".
[00:33] <jesper_> Ben64: When I plugged it in it didn't register that I did, I hit Detect Displays but it still didn't recognize it
[00:35] <phat3> test message
[00:35] <jesper_> Ben64: It registered now, I just plugged it back out and in
[00:38] <ramkam2013> Jordan_U: i dont understand what i'm doing. damn, will give it a try tomorrow, too late now
[00:42] <Robr3rd> k1l_: Those are the package names I take it?
[00:42] <Jordan_U> bekks: mcphail: I personally expect that the task killed will be a process that is relatively "unimportant" and using a large amount of RAM. If Firefox uses 98% of the RAM, then dpkg tries to allocate 3% of ram triggering the OOM killer, I want it to kill Firefox, not dpkg.
[00:42] <jesper_> Ben64: I have now changed all the settings but everything is still doubled on my panels
[00:42] <k1l_> Robr3rd: no, that is the name for the technic.
[00:45] <Jordan_U> bekks: mcphail: To be clear, in the situation I specified with oom_kill_allocating_task=1 dpkg will be killed, possibly breaking your system in the middle of a package update. With oom_kill_allocating_task=0, firefox would be killed (a mild inconvenience) and dpkg would continue running happily.
[00:45] <Robr3rd> k1l_: Ah, okay. So what about Question "1a" (which we'll just call 3 for sanity)? If my laptop has a process that starts hogging all of the RAM (generally Android Studio) I can't drop to a virtual terminal. Meanwhile, if my RAM gets hogged on the desktop I can still do so just fine? (Both would be plugged in to eliminate risk of CPU throttling, and the laptop has dual rear exhaust so heat throttling (monitoring temps) is also not causi
[00:46] <Robr3rd> Rather, it *will* hit a virtual terminal *eventually* but it takes minutes to do so.
[00:46] <Jordan_U> Robr3rd: Your message was cut off at "is also not causi".
[00:46] <Robr3rd> "...is also not causing it)?"
[00:46] <k1l_> Robr3rd: that sounds more like tha cpu is all busy too
[00:46] <jesper_> Ben64: I just removed them all and re-added them, seemed to have worked! haha
[00:47] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: Thank you. Apparently CIRC (Chrome App) has no concept of "here...lemme split this up for you..."
[00:48] <Jordan_U> Robr3rd: I enable all sysrq functionality on all of my personal machines, and use alt+sysrq+f to manually trigger the OOM killer when a low RAM machine starts becomming unresponsive due to memory exhaustion.
[00:49] <Robr3rd> k1l_: When I check it (while Android Studio is still running and RAM is still maxed out) It only shows 70% CPU...which is way too high for a quad-core i7 IMO but still not alarming
[00:49] <Robr3rd> Of course, by the time I check it the CPU may have managed to spin some stuff down of course.
[00:49] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: What about a high RAM machine?
[00:50] <Jordan_U> Robr3rd: I can't remember personally ever needing to use alt+sysrq+f with a machine that had more than 2 GiB of RAM.
[00:50] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: Well, I suppose nowadays 12GB is somewhat of an "upper average" but still, that's a fair bit of RAM, methinks
[00:51] <h4tt3r> Hello I am on a RasPi2 with "Ubuntu MATE" installed.  I installed PlayOnLinux, which installed "wine-development" which appears to be the bleeding edge release.  However PlayOnLinux cannot find wine, and, the command "wine" does not exist only the command "wine-development" exists.  I tried to symlink in /usr/bin/ (by running "sudo ln -s wine-development ./wine" inside said directory), but, that did not let PlayOnLinux find wine.
[00:51] <h4tt3r> How can I point it correctly?
[00:51] <tonyt> anyone happen to know how to fix an error "unable to load kernal module" while installing a gtx 960 nvidia driver?
[00:52] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: And 2GB would make sense, but man...12? I just don't understand why this is even a problem. I can only imagine a memory leak in Android Studio not clearing out VMs between tests (which is entirely possible)
[00:54] <Jordan_U> bekks: Reading the backlog, I completely disagree with your characterization of the default OOM killer behaviour, and your characterization of the oom_kill_allocating_task=1 behavior and I things it's irresponsible to pass on such mischaracterizations to those seeking support.
[00:54] <Jordan_U> s/things/think/
[00:56] <Jordan_U> Robr3rd: Have you been watching your RAM usage before such unresponsiveness to confirm that that's what's causing the problem? If so, have you looked at what processes are using the most RAM?
[00:56] <h4tt3r> Ah!!! I may have answer.  Typing helped.  I just googled : "playonlinux cannot find wine"
[00:57] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: Yep. And I get to watch Android Studio climb and climb over time (directly correlating to frequent consecutive tests/re-tests which destroys & spins up a new Android VM).
[00:57] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: If I close AS (from now on Android Studio because I'm lazy) periodically, then I can prevent the issue.
[00:58] <Bashing-om> tonyt: Is " linux-generic " installed ?
[00:58] <Robr3rd> The program can sit for hours and be fine, but heaven forbid I start to run tests.
[00:59] <Jordan_U> Robr3rd: Then you should figure out what is causing the leaks and get it fixed, or if you really just want to work around the problem run AS in a separate memory limited cgroup.
[01:00] <tonyt> bashing not sure. its a new install of 14.04
[01:00] <tonyt> how can i install it via cli bashing?
[01:00] <cortexman> i booted into command line recovery mode and am not line
[01:00] <cortexman> *online
[01:01] <Bashing-om> tonyt: Check 1st . ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[01:01] <cortexman> my hard drive appears to be in read only mode
[01:01] <tonyt> k will do that
[01:01] <cortexman> i am in recovery root mode to fix graphics drivers problems
[01:01] <cortexman> i need write access
[01:01] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: "memory limited cgroup" Now that's an idea I never even considered! --- Well, aside from AS issues, would you agree that a lack of swap should not prevent my ability to access a virtual term?
[01:01] <h4tt3r> Yeah I went into the "Manage WINE versions" menu, found version "1.2.27-PathOfExile" because it is a pretty good version, and, hopefully this works hehehehehe
[01:02] <Robr3rd> And it's probably a CPU bottleneck in that situation?
[01:03] <Bashing-om> cortexman: ' mount -o remount,rw / ' (Note there is no space after the comma.) ro enable writting to the root file system .
[01:03] <tonyt> bashing http://pastebin.com/XDA2vY4c
[01:04] <cortexman> Bashing-om: what about networking?
[01:04] <cortexman> maybe that's not working due to write-only filesystem
[01:06] <Bashing-om> cortexman: to eneable networking .. check the option when booting into recovery " eneable networking" .
[01:06] <Jordan_U> Robr3rd: When you start getting unresponsiveness due to memory pressure it's because things that would normally be still in cache, like executable code loaded from disk, is pushed out of cache and so needs to be read from disk again. Want to start a new tty? Now PAM needs to be read from disk again, and bash, and your bashrc, and if using user mode setting then the mode setting code, etc, etc. On a normal
[01:06] <Jordan_U> ly functioning machine, all of those things are used so frequently that any time you want to use them they're found in cache.
[01:07] <cortexman> Bashing-om: that froze at enabling Braille device support
[01:07] <h4tt3r> crap.  NOPE if I goto "Configure WINE" inside the PlayOnLinux config window for my restored Game, it does nothing.  :-(  I have a special WINE version installed, but, because it cannot see a "System" version of WINE it's not working.
[01:08] <Bashing-om> tonyt: Jordan_U Not sure .. if " linux-generic-lts-vivid " serves the same purpose to build the Nvidia driver as the " linux-generic" module .
[01:08] <h4tt3r> So close yet no cigar!!!!  IMPRESSIVE though!!! I want to see "ALICE" and "SILENTHILL2" in WINE on RasPi.  :-)  Keep up the AWESOME work you all.  And stay cool.
[01:08] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: Ohhh, okay. Yeah that makes sense. So leaving all of this "memory issue" stuff behind us, what would you suggest for swap size? Is the suggestion still "your swap should be as large as your RAM (or what of it you use)?"
[01:08] <Bashing-om> cortexman: "  Braille device support " is beyond my range of experience .
[01:09] <h4tt3r> Even just McGee's ALICE would be crazy nuts on RasPi.  :-D
[01:09] <cortexman> Bashing-om: how about manually uninstalling nvidia drivers installed using their .run installer
[01:10] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: My follow-up question being, "I know it's terrible to have swap on SSD, so would it be better to have it on SSD or to create a partition on the HDD that also lives in my laptop?"
[01:11] <Jordan_U> Robr3rd: Ironically, swap can actually help this situation by slowing things down. If you start running out of RAM and you have swap, then things get swapped out to disk and things that would normally be resident in memory (memory already allocated to a running process) suddently start needing to read from disk (swap), and so apps start to slow down. But swap can only fill up as fast as you can write to y
[01:11] <Jordan_U> our hard drive (orders of magnitude faster than you can exhaust RAM) and so you notice things getting slower and deal with it before your machine is completely unresponsive. Without swap, this whole process happens with super fast RAM and thus you can go from everything seeming great and respnsive to glacially slow before you can react to do anything about it.
[01:11] <Bashing-om> cortexman: sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*"  //// ./Nvidiawhatever.run --uninstall (must be cd'd to the directory/location) .
[01:12] <cortexman> great tip thanks
[01:14] <Bashing-om> tonyt: While we are waiting on additional guidance . show us ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' and we see what X is doing .
[01:14] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: That's a great point -- I never thought about it that way! (also see follow-up question just before your bit of gospel there)
[01:15] <Jordan_U> Robr3rd: It's not terrible to have swap on an SSD. SSDs have much higher write cycle limits than people expect.
[01:16] <tonyt> bashing ok sec
[01:17] <tonyt> bashing http://pastebin.com/kZ3mn5Jv
[01:18] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: Ah, okay. And this particular drive isn't off-brand or anything. It's one of the Samsungs that you always see around so it should be pretty reliable. So does the old adage still apply of "just match your swap to whatever your RAM is usually going to be for hibernate"? (also, what happens if (example) I have 10G of RAM used and 8G swap and I hit hibernate?
[01:18] <frostschutz> Robr3rd, ka-boom?
[01:19] <Jordan_U> Robr3rd: Since you have 15 GiB of RAM, you're probably not going to be using swap as a way to get better performance (having swap *can* increase performance on low RAM machines) so you're mostly using it for slowing down the process of running out of memory and for hibernation. So resuming from hibernation will be faster from an SSD, but if you don't have a lot of room to spare on the SSD you might as wel
[01:19] <Robr3rd> frostschutz: Heheh. I was thinking more along the lines of, "Excess gets killed" vs "Excess goes to suspend and slowly sips at your battery as if in suspend"
[01:19] <Jordan_U> l waste space on the HDD instead.
[01:20] <frostschutz> Robr3rd, at best, the hibernate will not happen
[01:20] <frostschutz> hibernate is awful anyhow, if it's not long-term, best to suspend to ram instead
[01:20] <Robr3rd> frostschutz: So the manager might say, "Eh...this stuff isn't going to fit...let's just suspend all of it"?
[01:20] <Bashing-om> tonyt: reading.
[01:21] <Jordan_U> Robr3rd: If you're using more virtual memory (RAM + Swap usage) than you have swap space when you try to hibernate then cache will be thrown out until your VM usage is smaller than available swap. If that can't be done, then hibernation will fail (and I don't know off hand how gracefully that is handled).
[01:22] <mattkim> hello everyone
[01:22] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: Okay, thanks. I'd imagine most of the uncertainty will vary wildly by system/distro based on how the manager is configured anyway.
[01:23] <tonyt> k thanks
[01:23] <Jordan_U> Robr3rd: You're welcome.
[01:23] <Bashing-om> tonyt: So far so good "  20.829] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  361.28  Wed Feb  3 14:48:10 PST 2016 " the Nvidia driver did build .
[01:24] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: Is there any kind of reasonable equivalent of OS X's dynamic swap space allocation? (I haven't dug into it much since it's just a work machine, but it looks like it will grow swap in 1GiB increments (I assume to a limit) and gradually dial it back down to 0GiB as physical memory becomes consistently available.
[01:24] <tonyt> so ignore the error bashing that im getting at the end of the installation? "unable to load kernel module"
[01:25] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: This isn't something I plan on configuring right now or anything, but rather more of a, "I've been wondering so I may as well ask!" deal
[01:25] <tonyt> other that that error the resolution is at 1080 wich is where its supposed to be at. but i was going to try to install arma 3 on steam to see how it runs. im wondering with that error will it actually run
[01:26] <Jordan_U> !info swapspace | Robr3rd
[01:28] <minitrue> hey, how can i block someone from sending me query messages ?
[01:29] <minitrue> its geting annoying
[01:30] <TTTA_> Anyone up for a challenge and a bit of hand-holding tonight? I'm about ready to shoot my computer and would absolutely LOVE some help
[01:30] <squinty>   /ignore *!*zz@* ALL   (stops all from one user eg user "zz")
[01:30] <Bashing-om> tonyt: Still reading " 21.843] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] Setup complete >> 24.426] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Ancor Communications Inc ASUS MX239 (DFP-1): connected " still look'n good .
[01:30] <tonyt> k
[01:31] <TTTA_> So I had a dual win10/UBUNTU machine, it was running great
[01:31] <squinty> minitrue,  or use the following to block all pm's  /ignore *!*@* PRIV
[01:31] <Robr3rd> Jordan_U: Thanks for your help and the time it took to offer such! Have a great day/night!
[01:31] <minitrue> squinty: thanks!
[01:32] <TTTA_> One day I screwed something up with UBUNTU, couldn't get past the login, just decided to nuke UBUNTU
[01:32] <TTTA_> I reformatted the partition UBUNTU was on
[01:33] <TTTA_> I was helping me last night until I passed out
[01:33] <ERROR> hi
[01:33] <TTTA_> *Jordan_U was helping me
[01:33] <Guest36492> hi
[01:34] <Bashing-om> tonyt: I do not understand why the system polled through the display ports a dozen times, but I see no problem . You are only using the one monitor. right ?
[01:34] <zamN> hi, i messed up my boot partition cause i resized the partition and now grub wont show up when booting. I'm currently im in the ubuntu livecd..but not sure what to do :X -- should i try resintalling grub? Is there any way i can do a 'health check' of my ubuntu install?
[01:34] <tonyt> yes jsut on lcd
[01:34] <tonyt> *one
[01:35] <TTTA_> zamN: I think I'm in the same boat as you
[01:36] <ubuntu-studio> hello?
[01:36] <tonyt> hi
[01:36] <zamN> maybe? I had a working ubuntu/mac osx dual partition setup working.. I needed to resize my ubuntu root partition, so i resized my mac partition to get free space. THen i used gparted to move partitions around until I could resize my root partition using the unallocated space. Now that I resized my root partition I no longer can boot into ubuntu (so it seems)
[01:36] <Bashing-om> tonyt: Display is good ? Where and when are you seeing that advisory ?
[01:36] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | zamN
[01:37] <tonyt> well when i installed the driver i booted up and just hit ctrl+alt+f1 to drop to just a terminal bashing
[01:37] <zamN> ugh the livecd doesnt have wifi drivers :(
[01:38] <RoundDuckMann> I'm back, and after trying to install, I froze at the part where it warns you about if there's any BIOS OSes. I used sudo sgdisk --zap-all /dev/sda to wipe SSD afterwords (though it looked like it still was wiped already...), is that enough?
[01:38] <Jordan_U> zamN: What happens when you try to boot Ubuntu? How are you trying to boot Ubuntu?
[01:38] <zamN> Jordan_U well, grub isnt showing up so I have to boot through mac osx's shitty boot menu
[01:39] <RoundDuckMann> Also, I admit to forgetting to make an EFI partition, but it still should've installed still
[01:39] <zamN> and when i do i get the infinite blinking cursor
[01:39] <TTTA> http://termbin.com/v7wj
[01:39] <Jordan_U> zamN: So you're holding option at boot? Something else?
[01:40] <zamN> Jordan_U yes im holding option
[01:40] <zamN> and im booting into 'windows'
[01:40] <Bashing-om> tonyt: Presently, I do not see that there is a problem . All I can say is reboot and see what things look like .
[01:40] <RoundDuckMann> help?
[01:40] <TTTA> Jordan_U: sorry I passed out when you were helping me last night
[01:41] <tonyt> everything looks fine so far bashing. just worried about downloading a game through steam and it not working cause the driver didnt install correctly
[01:41] <Jordan_U> zamN: Then you currently have Ubuntu configure to boot via BIOS, I would recommend configuring it to boot via EFI instead.
[01:41] <zamN> Jordan_U: are you sure? I had this completely working fine right before i resized my root partition
[01:41] <Bashing-om> tonyt: Log says the driver is installed .. and no complaints .
[01:41] <tonyt> thanks for the info bashing. guess ill jsut give it a shot and see what happens
[01:41] <zamN> grub was completely working right before this resize as well Jordan_U
[01:41] <tonyt> ok. good enough
[01:42] <tonyt> thanks
[01:42] <RoundDuckMann> help?
[01:42] <Bashing-om> tonyt: :) caution is a good thing .
[01:43] <tonyt> :)
[01:43] <jim> you guys have a judd-like bot? (can query package versions, maints, etc)
[01:43] <RoundDuckMann> I'm back, and after trying to install, I froze at the part where it warns you about if there's any BIOS OSes. I used sudo sgdisk --zap-all /dev/sda to wipe SSD afterwords (though it looked like it still was wiped already...), is that enough?
[01:43] <tonyt> thanks bashing for reading the log
[01:44] <Jordan_U> zamN: If you want to continue booting via BIOS that will probably work fine, and you probably just need to re-install grub. Sometimes computers firmware will initialize hardware differently when booting via CSM than when booting via UEFI, usually to the detriment of the OS loaded via CSM, but if you haven't noticed any problems then just re-installing grub-pc will get you back to where you were (assuming
[01:44] <Jordan_U> there isn't more gone wrong, it's hard to tell).
[01:44] <Jordan_U> TTTA: No problem. Honestly, I don't remember what we were working on :)
[01:45] <zamN> Jordan_U i got wifi!
[01:45] <zamN> gonna try that link you gave me
[01:45] <cortexman> i've got my nvidia issues largely fixed, but my second monitor isn't detected
[01:45] <TTTA> Jordan_U: just trying to get me back to accessing my computer at all. Kept getting different errors depending on which HDD/SSD I tried to load from
[01:46] <TTTA> I had a dual win10/Ubuntu machine and I nuked the Ubuntu partition the wrong way
[01:46] <Bashing-om> tonyt: np .. glad there is no problem .
[01:46] <jim> how do I find versions of rtorrent in ubuntu (I don't run it, trying to help someone)
[01:47] <Jordan_U> jim: What do you mean by "find versions". You can install rtorrent by installing the "rtorrent" package.
[01:47] <TTTA> I'm running UBUNTU currently from the liveCD (liveUSB, in this case), but I can't figure out how to run UBUNTU or WIN10 without the live USB
[01:47] <TTTA> when I try to boot from the SSD that's supposed to have WIN10 on it, I get a can't find device error, then a grub message
[01:48] <jim> Jordan_U, I don't run ubuntu, but trying to help someone who is. I wanted to find the version of rtorrent in latest stable ubuntu to start with
[01:48] <Dylan____> Hey
[01:48] <Jordan_U> !info rtorrent | jim
[01:48] <jim> it would be nice if I could show him how to search for that stuff too
[01:48] <Dylan____> Is there like some application that shows messages etc for android on ubuntu?
[01:49] <Dylan____> Similar to the thing that kde has for android phones
[01:49] <cortexman> Bashing-om: any idea on getting second monitor working?
[01:49] <xangua> Dylan____: there's pushbullet
[01:49] <TTTA> the SSD that I just reinstalled UBUNTU on, when booted from, gets me to the UBUNTU login screen, but the I get a few different screens flashed, ending with just a blank monitor
[01:49] <jim> Jordan_U, does the rtorrent source package also contain LibTorrent?
[01:49] <Jordan_U> jim: It's a little odd that you want someone to use rtorrent that doesn't know how to search for packages. I would think that transmission-gtk, which comes with Ubuntu by default and is fully graphical, would be a better choice.
[01:49] <zamN> Jordan_U: My boot info is here: www.zamn.net/mybootinfo.txt
[01:49] <xangua> There's browser add-on and unofficial desktop client Dylan____
[01:50] <Jordan_U> TTTA: Please run boot info scrip: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[01:50] <TTTA> this is beyond my level of google-fu
[01:50] <Bashing-om> cortexman: That is something I am not qualified in .
[01:50] <TTTA> http://termbin.com/v7wj
[01:50] <jim> I think he's looking at either backporting or else statically linking with the lib
[01:51] <Dylan____> Ok ill look knto
[01:51] <Dylan____> It thanks
[01:51] <Jordan_U> jim: Again, this type of thing doesn't seem like the type of thing that would be done by someone who doesn't know how to use a pacakge manager. What is your/their end goal here? What is your/their level of experience with Ubuntu or GNU/Linux in general?
[01:51] <dogarrhea> BUGGGSSS
[01:52] <jim> and the part where you said "that you want to use ..." is not the right thing, he came to me/us with that
[01:52] <dogarrhea> why are gimp cropped images from windows environment shown as clipped images in ubuntu?
[01:52] <Bashing-om> jim: Searching the repository ' apt-cache search torrent ' from terminal .. find of interest then particulars ' apt-cache show rtorrent ' .
[01:52] <jim> I've run debian for about 2 decades or so
[01:52] <Jordan_U> dogarrhea: What do you mean by "shown as clipped images"?
[01:52] <jim> so I have a lottle experience :)
[01:53] <jim> him, I dunno yet
[01:53] <zamN> Jordan_U: i think my biggest problem here is this Grub2 (v1.99) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks at sector
[01:53] <zamN>     441934840 of the same hard drive for core.img, but core.img can not be
[01:53] <zamN>     found at this location
[01:53] <TTTA> Jordan_U: http://termbin.com/v7wj
[01:55] <dogarrhea> i have a picture of a dog.  i autocrop image in gimp in windows.  i export to png.  i copy image to shared folder on windows. in guest ubuntu i open image from shared folder. the dog's legs are cut off
[01:55] <Jordan_U> jim: Well then you already know how to use apt-cache search, apt-get install, and apt-chache show. Whether you want to teach them to use those tools or Ubuntu Software Center depends on their level of experience and their goals. Frankly if you don't know what they're actually trying to accomplish, or their level of experience, then there's not much we can do to help you help them. Maybe just have them joi
[01:56] <Jordan_U> n the channel themselves, or come back to use when you know more about their situation.
[01:57] <muchachao> hi guys, which display manager will be provided by default on 16.04?
[01:57] <cortexman> who knows how to get my second monitor working? i'm using the nvidia & cuda drivers via the cuda .deb
[01:57] <cortexman> i manually installed the nvidia better drivers (via .run) - after system surgery, i only have one monitor working
[01:57] <Jordan_U> dogarrhea: Can you upload this png file somewhere for us to try opening it ourselves? (Assuming that the image is actually safe for work / appropriate).
[01:57] <Jordan_U> muchachao: #ubuntu+1 for 16.04
[01:57] <jim> I think one of the problems is he's getting encouraged to build rtorrent from source and link to existing libs, and I'm not sure he should do that
[01:58] <zamN> Jordan_U: I have my root partition mounted via the livcd.. should i just try fixing my grub install?
[01:58] <jim> what is the latest stable ubuntu version?
[01:58] <zamN> it seems like my data is all here :P
[01:58] <zamN> jim 15.10 i believe
[01:58] <jim> ok
[01:58] <Jordan_U> jim: Again, get more information and then come back or have them come here. From what you've said so far it seems like they are very confused and are being given inappropriate advice, but it's hard to tell.
[01:59] <jim> seems that way to me too
[01:59] <dogarrhea> there's already a bug report on this apparently
[01:59] <django_> hey all
[01:59] <django_> how can i get rid of this: https://bpaste.net/show/59e233ea388b
[01:59] <NOTNICK> Greetings.
[01:59] <NOTNICK> How are all of you?
[01:59] <timmy2> Howdy!
[02:00] <NOTNICK> Hi timmy2!
[02:00] <jim> if he does what he's being advised to do, he'll end up with something that only works under certain conditions and isn't very upgradable... ok, I'll find otu
[02:00] <NOTNICK> Is this a place where people can learn from others how to best install and utilize linux on their machines?
[02:00] <Jordan_U> zamN: It looks like your install is configured to boot via EFI already. When things were working, did you need to hold option to boot into Ubuntu?
[02:01] <NOTNICK> Or perhaps I should seek greener pastures?
[02:01] <zamN> no Jordan_U, i only had to do that before because grub was not showing up on boot
[02:01] <NOTNICK> Anyone?
[02:01] <zamN> NOTNICK: you might want ##linux
[02:01] <NOTNICK> I'll even through you a little mBTC for walking me through it.
[02:01] <Jordan_U> NOTNICK: This channel is for Ubuntu related support questions, not for any other linux distribution, but yes.
[02:01] <timmy2> +
[02:01] <timmy2> +1
[02:01] <NOTNICK> Thanks zamN.
[02:02] <NOTNICK> I will stay here for now. But will check there as well.
[02:02] <Jordan_U> NOTNICK: Are you using Ubuntu?
[02:02] <Bashing-om> django_: ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ' compare to ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' and remove the duplicate " http://repository.spotify.com/ " .
[02:02] <NOTNICK> I am attempting to.
[02:02] <NOTNICK> I am a complete babe in this world.
[02:03] <TTTA> Jordan_U: the last thing you had me do before I passed out last night was run something through grub that showed all my hard drives and partitions
[02:03] <NOTNICK> But from what I read ubuntu is the thing to use
[02:03] <NOTNICK> Magento the antinuts etc.
[02:03] <TTTA> what
[02:04] <Jordan_U> zamN: Follow this guide but stop after step 11 (so don't run grub-install yet) and tell me when you're there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[02:04] <zamN> Jordan_U: I'm already chroot'd
[02:04] <NOTNICK> Why can't I post in ##ub zamN?
[02:04] <NOTNICK> Is there a noob trick?
[02:05] <zamN> i dont know what ##ub is NOTNICK
[02:05] <Jordan_U> zamN: Have you bind mounted /dev/, /proc/, and /sys/ within the chroot?
[02:05] <NOTNICK> The channel you suggest I tried for advice.
[02:05] <NOTNICK> ATTENTION ALL CHATTERS -
[02:05] <zamN> NOTNICK you probably need to register with nickserv
[02:05] <zamN> NOTNICK: /msg nickserv help
[02:05] <NOTNICK> I AM OFFERING A BITCOIN REWARD FOR WALKING ME THROUGH THE PROCESS OF LINUX LEARNING.
[02:06] <zamN> Jordan_U: no i ahve not
[02:06] <tinyalpha> how you all doing
[02:06] <NOTNICK> It will not be large, but if I like you it could be, and if you do a good job.
[02:06] <tinyalpha> linux is not that good of an operating system unless you lern how to use it
[02:06] <Jordan_U> NOTNICK: Please don't post such "announcements" or use all caps.
[02:06] <zamN> Jordan_U: I basically ran: sudo mount /dev/sda5 (where my root partition is) /mnt
[02:06] <zamN> and then chroot'd
[02:06] <zamN> should I restart and try again?
[02:06] <dodo3773> NOTNICK: What specifically are you trying to learn (I have no interest in your bitcoins; but I will help you if I can)?
[02:07] <NOTNICK> I apologize.
[02:07] <Bashing-om> !manual | NOTNICK
[02:07] <zamN> well actually i dont think my /boot dir is a different partiion Jordan_U
[02:07] <NOTNICK> I appreciate your generorisity.
[02:07] <jim> NOTNICK, dude, that's seriously annoying... could you lay off the all-caps
[02:07] <NOTNICK> I want to learn the basics.
[02:07] <NOTNICK> How do... I'm not.. ?
[02:07] <NOTNICK> How do I change name?
[02:07] <jim> so, you probably want to start learning the shell
[02:08] <jim>  /nick whatevernick
[02:08] <NOTNICK> :change name nameeyy
[02:08] <Jordan_U> TTTA: I need the contents of the RESULTS.txt, not the output printed to the screen.
[02:08] <NOTNICK> Ok.
[02:08] <zamN> Jordan_U: okay, i just mounted them all actually
[02:08] <TTTA> out, my bad
[02:08] <zamN> Jordan_U: now should I chroot?
[02:08] <Jordan_U> zamN: Pasteing the contents of /proc/mounts for me to see to confirm it looks correct first.
[02:09] <NOTNICK> How about now Jordan_U?
[02:09] <NOTNICK> I don''t get it. I followed jim's advice.
[02:09] <TTTA> http://pastebin.com/ZhVCeKhP
[02:10] <NOTNICK> Jordo
[02:10] <jim> NOTNICK, you seem excited... maybe a good thing would be to take a few breaths
[02:10] <NOTNICK> I am excited.
[02:11] <NOTNICK> Please don't pander to my excitement.
[02:11] <dogarrhea> ADHD
[02:11] <zamN> Jordan_U: www.zamn.net/mounts.txt here you go sir
[02:11] <jim> NOTNICK, and that's a good thing... and, this learning is going to take time
[02:11] <NOTNICK> ADHD is nothing but a brilliant way for big pharma to make a massive fortune.
[02:11] <NOTNICK> I understand, jimbo, I am I willing to take the time.
[02:12] <jim> that sounds like a commitment to learn, to me
[02:12] <NOTNICK> Do not allow my outter exuberance to belie my inner virtues.
[02:12] <NOTNICK> I thank you for your kind words.
[02:13] <jim> it's not always going to be easy
[02:13] <jim> are you running ubuntu now?
[02:14] <NOTNICK> No.
[02:14] <Jordan_U> zamN: sudo umount /dev/sda1
[02:14] <zamN> Jordan_U: done
[02:14] <NOTNICK> I have thumbs, double double discs, got 3 machines.
[02:14] <jim> ok, are you running any linux?
[02:14] <NOTNICK> And a tool kit replete with all the kinds of goodies necessary to soldier, etc etc machines.
[02:14] <NOTNICK> No.
[02:14] <Jordan_U> zamN: sudo chroot /mnt/
[02:15] <zamN> ok im chroot'd Jordan_U
[02:15] <NOTNICK> Closest I've done is a tiny bit of btc mining coding, and Wine.
[02:15] <Jordan_U> zamN: Now within the chroot "mount -a"
[02:15] <zamN> Jordan_U: alright that worked
[02:15] <NOTNICK> Ihave these beater some one threw away
[02:15] <NOTNICK> it's a presario 2002 but i cleaned it nicely and it actually runs really fast!'
[02:16] <Jordan_U> zamN: Please pastebin the output of "efibootmgr".
[02:16] <NOTNICK> I check out the diags and it's running consistently under 30%.
[02:16] <jim> ok, so you've already said you want to put the time in to learn linux (congratulations, that's a great first step), are you doing this for your own reasons? for a job? for school?
[02:16] <NOTNICK> Silly.
[02:16] <NOTNICK> All in the same.
[02:16] <NOTNICK> And Jim, you're my sensai.
[02:16] <NOTNICK> I sense it immediately.
[02:17] <NOTNICK> If you'll have me. *bows traditionally japanesely*
[02:17] <jim> well no :) but I'll help you get started
[02:17] <NOTNICK> Works for me!
[02:17]  * squinty thank goodness for ignore toggles
[02:18] <zamN> Jordan_U: www.zamn.net/efibootmgr.txt
[02:19] <jim> see tho, I dunno if it should be the shell first, or some programs... howbout this: one thing you should have at least a vague idea of, is what files go where in your installation... but you don't have any installed?
[02:19] <Jordan_U> zamN: Interesting. I'm surprised that the Ubuntu entry there wasn't an option at boot when you held option. (It should have been labeled "Ubuntu", not "Windows").
[02:19] <zamN> Jordan_U: yeah.. id idnt see an ubuntu surprisingly
[02:19] <NOTNICK> jim
[02:19] <NOTNICK> can we do this a much more efficient way
[02:20] <jim> yeah, that's not good. you should pick one of those machines and install a linux onto it... maybe ubuntu?
[02:20] <zamN> i read online that it would show up as Windows because we're tricking OSX into thinking its dual booting windows? Jordan_U
[02:20] <NOTNICK> join.me/kursweil9
[02:20] <Jordan_U> zamN: That would be the case if we were configuring Ubuntu to boot via BIOS, but we aren't.
[02:20] <zamN> ah
[02:20] <zamN> i see why you were confused now :)
[02:21] <Jordan_U> zamN: Anyway, run "grub-install" (with no other arguments) and it should fix the problem, but then it would be nice to know what caused the boot order to change (from grub first to OSX first) in the first place, to hopefully prevent it from happening again.
[02:22] <zamN> Jordan_U: so reboot after that should fix things?
[02:22] <NOTNICK> jim
[02:22] <NOTNICK> if you dont mind
[02:22] <NOTNICK> let's not waste either of our time
[02:22] <jim> NOTNICK, I actually don't do private help sessions right now... like I say, you should figure out which linux you want to install (as long as you're here anyway, ubuntu should be a good possiblity
[02:22] <zamN> Jordan_U: As I said before, I resized my root partition, which means i moved the actual partition location
[02:22] <zamN> because i extended it
[02:23] <zamN> so my guess is grub just had no idea where this was
[02:23] <Jordan_U> zamN: That shouldn't have any effect on the order of EFI boot entries.
[02:23] <NOTNICK> ubuntu
[02:23] <NOTNICK> or devian
[02:23] <NOTNICK> i pick ubuntu
[02:23] <jim> NOTNICK, the nice folks here can help you with installing ubuntu if that's what you decide to do... it's a good choice for someone who's new, and it will grow with you
[02:23] <zamN> :P idk but that seems to have fixed it Jordan_U
[02:23] <NOTNICK> I will pay you for your time.
[02:23] <NOTNICK> THank you
[02:24] <NOTNICK> Will anyone private coach me?
[02:24] <NOTNICK> https://join.me/993-642-857
[02:24] <Jordan_U> NOTNICK: From now on, I expect all of your comments in this channel to either be direct support questions or answers to the questions of others. This additional chatter is cluttering the channel.
[02:25] <NOTNICK> Ok.
[02:25] <Jordan_U> zamN: I'm curious: How are you booting OSX?
[02:25] <NOTNICK> Fair enough.
[02:25] <NOTNICK> To the boot.
[02:25] <zamN> Jordan_U: through grub lol
[02:25] <NOTNICK> JordanU.
[02:25] <NOTNICK> I am in possession of a 2002 presario.
[02:26] <NOTNICK> I want to gut that ****, and run linux on it.
[02:26] <NOTNICK> Is this possible?
[02:26] <zamN> Jordan_U: gah.. not its asking for a password before it mounts /home i guess
[02:26] <zamN> Jordan_U: but i cant even see my user input
[02:26] <zamN> ~_~
[02:26] <NOTNICK> Jordan U if I am to get lip from you I expect to get it quick.
[02:26] <Jordan_U> zamN: That's odd, because according to the boot info script output you posted there is no OSX entry in your grub.cfg. Did you add an entry manually to your custom.cfg?
[02:27] <NOTNICK> If you aren't the man to help me, free, or paid, I will find the man for the job.
[02:27] <zamN> yeah i did Jordan_U
[02:27] <NOTNICK> I did Jordan Him*.
[02:27] <Jordan_U> zamN: OK, good job adding it to custom.cfg, which I consider to be the correct place but which few people seem to know about :)
[02:28] <NOTNICK> I realize I've never attended these meetings before.
[02:28] <profall> Firefox is really, really slow
[02:28] <profall> Compared to chrome
[02:28] <nondescript> Anybody familiar with how to repair an LVM partition?
[02:28] <profall> Any suggestions? I know firefox is preferred apparently on Ubuntu
[02:28] <NOTNICK> But I would really like Jordan_U to answer my questions, as he requested I do so so kurtly.
[02:29] <zamN> gah, Jordan_U: when i try to boot into ubuntu I keep getting the message: 'Please enter passphrase for disk APPLE_SSD_SM256E (cryptswap1) on none!' .. but when I try to enter in a password *nothing* shows up on screen
[02:29] <NOTNICK> It's all but fair.
[02:29] <zamN> Jordan_U: do you happen to know a non-gui way to get around this?
[02:29] <NOTNICK> Apparently he's too popular.
[02:29] <NOTNICK> I will find another watering hole.
[02:29] <Jordan_U> NOTNICK: We are all volunteers, so we get to choose what support questions we do and don't want to answer. I haven't accepted your payment and wont. I am not your employee, and you are not entitled to support.
[02:29] <NOTNICK> Thanks for nothing neophytes.
[02:30] <zamN> goodbye NOTNICK
[02:30] <zamN> dont let the door hit you on your way out
[02:30] <NOTNICK> I will.
[02:30] <NOTNICK> I assure you.
[02:30] <NOTNICK> I am not entitled.
[02:30] <skweek> what are the ubuntu key bindings for screenshots and extra functionality screenshots?
[02:30] <NOTNICK> But I came here thinking, hey
[02:30] <NOTNICK> they guys know they're stuff
[02:30] <zamN> skweek: you mean the print screen button on the keyboard?
[02:30] <NOTNICK> maybe they wouldn't mind givin' me a hand!?
[02:30] <Jordan_U> NOTNICK: Your next comment that is not a direct support question will lead to your being banned. Please stop now.
[02:30] <NOTNICK> And jee I guess I was wrong.
[02:30] <zamN> skweek: theres also alt+print screen to just capture your window
[02:31] <NOTNICK> I am ASKING QUESTOINS.
[02:31] <alive876> hi can nyone explain for me vnc "listener mode" , it seems its something you set up initiate in both the client and server , on 5500, and seems to hve something to do with firewalls
[02:31] <skweek> zamN: no, like alt ctrl shift combinations to capture sections
[02:31] <NOTNICK> I have a 2002 presario that I want to run on linux.
[02:31] <NOTNICK> Is this possible?
[02:31] <Jordan_U> NOTNICK: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss this channel's policies.
[02:31] <NOTNICK> I don't.
[02:31] <NOTNICK> I want to learn linus.
[02:32] <Jordan_U> NOTNICK: Most likely, yes. But it's impossible to say for sure without knowing the exact hardware. If the LiveCD/USB works fine then you'll probably have little problems installing it.
[02:32] <raleigh> hi
[02:32] <skweek> zamN: this is what I was refering to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[02:32] <jim> do you guys also have a netinstall image?
[02:32] <raleigh> can i make ctrl+left/right/backspace work with camel case?
[02:33] <Jordan_U> !minimal | jim
[02:34] <TTTA> Jordan_U: the sourceforge output you asked for: http://pastebin.com/ZhVCeKhP
[02:34] <OneM_Industries> Hi! I am attempting to make a share on my Ubuntu 14.04 box accessible from my RasPI. I have attempted to set up a network share, but it did not seem to take, as the PI was unable to mount it. Any ideas?
[02:34] <Jordan_U> jim: If you're literally referring to PXE boot or similar then the kernel and initramfs on the Minimal CD are the same as you would use for PXE boot, and are also available for download as individual files.
[02:34] <jim> I haven't done anything with pxe in years
[02:35] <jim> does the minimal also contain the base of ubuntu?
[02:35] <NOTNICK> THank you Jordun
[02:35] <NOTNICK> What's the difference between a stick an cd?
[02:35] <NOTNICK> And why should I use one and not the other?
[02:35] <jim> if you don't have a cd burner
[02:36] <NOTNICK> Is there a dark format to this place?
[02:36] <TTTA> The LiveCD and LiveUSB will be functionally identical, to my knowledge. But it's hard to use a LiveCD when your computer doesn't have an optical drive
[02:36] <NOTNICK> My eyes will bleed.
[02:36] <Jordan_U> jim: The minimal CD can't install anything without an internet connection, and (as long as you pay careful attention while installing) can install any flavor of Ubuntu, or a custom selection of packages.
[02:36] <NOTNICK> Anyway to mod this white abomination?
[02:36] <LambdaComplex> it's 2016 so pretty much everything should be a hybrid iso
[02:37] <NOTNICK> I see, thank you TTTA.
[02:37] <NOTNICK> Can you reexplain that last part Jordan please?
[02:37] <Flannel> NOTNICK: The format is entirely within your client, so you'd have to check your client options to see if there's a dark theme for IRC.
[02:38] <NOTNICK> How might a complete fledgling do that.
[02:38] <NOTNICK> Top right corner pocket?
[02:38] <Hulio> hi guys
[02:38] <Hulio> i love ubuntu mate
[02:38] <Hulio> Mate*
[02:38] <Hulio> best classic UI
[02:39] <NOTNICK> You lost me with that one Flannel.
[02:39] <Hulio> It runs so fast on regular non SSD
[02:39] <NOTNICK> But nice Flannel, bra.
[02:39] <NOTNICK> Basically my goal, Jim, TTTAA, Jordan_U is to be hackproof.
[02:39] <Jordan_U> TTTA: Please run boot info script from here: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript , not from sourceforge. Sourceforge's version is old and unmaintained (but has more complete instructions for downloading and running it).
[02:39] <zamN> Jordan_U: could you help out with one more thing? I am able to boot into ubuntu now.. but because my /home directory is encrypted Ubuntu booter keeps prompting for a password. I can't even interact with this GUI screen though. Do you happen to know how I can do this through console instead? I'm trying to use ecryptfs-mount-private but it seems like that isnt working
[02:39] <Flannel> NOTNICK: go look for "preferences" or "options" or whatnot in the menu, and then look inside there for theme or color or whatever.
[02:40] <NOTNICK> And now that I Have three machines I can pretty do whatever I want with, I want to fully delve into the bitcoin/linux/haxxor space.
[02:40] <NOTNICK> options ain't doin' it
[02:40] <NOTNICK> Though I appreciate your Flannel attempt.
[02:41] <Jordan_U> zamN: ecryptfs doesn't come into play until you log in. If you're having problems interacting with the login screen, that's not related to ecryptfs.
[02:41] <jim> NOTNICK, the only way to do that... turn your computer off
[02:41] <zamN> Jordan_U: well it seems ubuntu is in an infinite loading loop
[02:41] <NOTNICK> Was that a slight?
[02:42] <NOTNICK> Because a man of your age would find that funny, it is was.
[02:42] <NOTNICK> #DADHUMMOR
[02:42] <Flannel> NOTNICK: No, his point is: there's no such thing as hackproof.  Only sufficiently difficult to hack.
[02:43] <RoundDuckMann> How to create UEFI Partition in Ubuntu's installer?
[02:43] <NOTNICK> Don't you think a man who wears flannel outta know that I guy who doesn't even know what satoshi nakamoti's name means should know THAT much?
[02:43] <NOTNICK> It means "he who is wise."
[02:43] <Flannel> NOTNICK: Please keep the discussin in here on topic (ubuntu technical support).  Thanks.
[02:43] <NOTNICK> Sorry.
[02:43] <NOTNICK> Is there is any bitcoiners in there though?
[02:44] <NOTNICK> Promise I will return to my incessant inquiries after.
[02:44] <NOTNICK> Ok.
[02:44] <NOTNICK> So I'm 2 years old.
[02:44] <NOTNICK> I have 3 machines.
[02:44] <RoundDuckMann> Flannel: How do you create an EFI partition in Ubiquity (Ubuntu installer)?
[02:45] <NOTNICK> One intel pentieum windows 8 circa 2010.
[02:45] <NOTNICK> One 13" macbook pro
[02:45] <RoundDuckMann> I'm manually paritioning my drive
[02:45] <ouroumov_> RoundDuckMann, you can choose EFI boot partition as a partition type, same as for ext4
[02:45] <NOTNICK> and 1 2002 presario
[02:45] <pantato> so i broke my installation for rtorrent
[02:45] <NOTNICK> For obvious reasons, I would like to experiement with the presario first.
[02:45] <pantato> is there a way to use aptitude to reverse things to how they were days ago?
[02:45] <NOTNICK> How can, and what should I do to begin?
[02:46] <NOTNICK> I have massive amounts of 64g disks, a few thumbs, and a whole lot of wherewithall.
[02:46] <NOTNICK> Nice knowin'all of ya.
[02:47] <NOTNICK> Jeese it's fall out boys MTV concert after their one hit broke out.
[02:47] <RoundDuckMann> ouroumov_: Will the Ubuntu GNOME installation recognize it?
[02:47] <NOTNICK> I yam what I yam.
[02:47] <TTTA_> NOTNICK: go to the UBUNTU home page, find the download link for 32-bit UBUNTU, then Google how to create a live USB for UBUNTU
[02:47] <ouroumov_> RoundDuckMann, dunno sorry.
[02:47] <RoundDuckMann> just want to make sure...
[02:47] <NOTNICK> ALRIGHT MY MAN
[02:48] <NOTNICK> TTTA!
[02:48] <Jordan_U> NOTNICK: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop
[02:48] <NOTNICK> Wait for it.
[02:48] <Hulio> sup man
[02:48] <NOTNICK> Can I .. Alright ! Jordan MY MAN!
[02:48] <NOTNICK> wait for it
[02:48] <NOTNICK> can I do this on the presario you think?
[02:48] <Jordan_U> NOTNICK: Probably.
[02:48] <NOTNICK> Also, I want to completely wipe the presario first.
[02:48] <NOTNICK> Best way to do that?
[02:48] <RoundDuckMann> ouroumov_:  Ubuntu Gnome is the official Gnome version of Ubuntu, it has the same installer, and is a full offical flavor.
[02:49] <ouroumov_> NOTNICK, you'll wipe disk at the partitioning step.
[02:49] <NOTNICK> ok can we atttack that first?
[02:49] <RoundDuckMann> Oh well I'll try it...
[02:49] <ouroumov_> NOTNICK, also I recommend Lubuntu. I doubt anything else will run on a dinosaur
[02:49] <OneM_Industries> ^
[02:49] <NOTNICK> Got her locked and loaded,
[02:50] <NOTNICK> Very good ouromov, I will take your admonition to heart.
[02:50] <NOTNICK> So how do I wipe it ouromov?
[02:50] <profall> I like regular old Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[02:50] <OneM_Industries> Hey, how would I set a up network share on a Ubuntu 14.04 machine?
[02:51] <OneM_Industries> I am attempting to use a spare partition as a space to store video from a RasPI I am setting up as a video camera, but the PI refuses to connect to the share.
[02:51] <ouroumov_> NOTNICK, first you gotta burn your .iso to your install media. It's either a USB thumb drive or a DVD. See the web documentation on how to do that.
[02:51] <NOTNICK> K I got that.
[02:52] <TTTA> NOTNICK: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[02:52] <Hulio> how to install .bundle file?
[02:52] <NOTNICK> TTTA you
[02:53] <NOTNICK> 're so helpful. THank you
[02:53] <NOTNICK> But my friend ouromov says to use Tubuntu
[02:53] <NOTNICK> On a count of it being a dinoblood
[02:53] <NOTNICK> 14 yod machine
[02:53] <TTTA> use whatever flavor of linux works for you, but that's how to create a liveUSB
[02:53] <Hulio> nevermind
[02:53] <NOTNICK> Baskin robbins.
[02:53] <Hulio> i got it
[02:54] <NOTNICK> No?
[02:54] <TTTA> different versions of Linux, such as UBUNTU, LUBUNTU, Redhat, etc. are referred to as 'flavors'
[02:54] <NOTNICK> @TTTA @ouromov do you prefer stick or DVD and why
[02:54] <NOTNICK> I prefer mint choco chip.
[02:54] <NOTNICK> (magento)
[02:54] <zamN> Jordan_U: okay, scratch before. I can't even boot into ubuntu anymore :|
[02:55] <NOTNICK> That was a linux joke. LAUGH guys.
[02:55] <TTTA> stick because my computer doesn't have an optical drive. It really doesn't matter, it's just a convinience thing
[02:55] <NOTNICK> K I will use drive since I have so many of these dual sided dvd's.
[02:55] <Jordan_U> TTTA: No actually. In this context a "flavor" is short for "Ubuntu flavor" and refers specifically to a version of Ubuntu that still uses only the Ubuntu repositories and is thus supported. So Red Hat would definitly not be a "flavor".
[02:56] <NOTNICK> OH snap!
[02:56] <ouroumov_> NOTNICK, if the machine is from 2002 I speak from experience when I say it might not support booting from USB anyway.
[02:56] <TTTA> oh my bad
[02:56] <NOTNICK> He just got TTTATACKED!
[02:56] <NOTNICK> That is great info, thanks.
[02:56] <Jordan_U> NOTNICK: This is your last warning about offtopic chatter.
[02:56] <NOTNICK> Fair enough.
[02:56] <NOTNICK> I will be as straight as an arrow.
[02:56] <Flannel> NOTNICK: If you want to chit chat, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place for it.
[02:57] <TTTA> I mean, I'm new enough to UBUNTU that I've bricked my computer so badly that the only OS I can run is UBUNTU off the liveUSB
[02:57] <NOTNICK> But you are all so to the point and so knowledgeable and quickly come to my aid.
[02:57] <NOTNICK> I don't want to learn from lollygaggers, I won't to learn from someone like Jordan who would dispel a flavor myth.
[02:58] <NOTNICK> How do you mean TTTA?
[02:58] <NOTNICK> Bricked it in what way?
[02:58] <NOTNICK> ALright so I'm loading the 32disc for the presario dino.
[02:58] <Hulio> ubuntu Mate is the best
[02:59] <Hulio> I dont know why it is way better then the Original one
[02:59] <TTTA> I mean out of the 6-8 partitions spread across 4 hard drives in my computer, I can't boot into an OS from any of them, as far as I can tell
[02:59] <Hulio> this is ironic
[02:59] <Hulio> i love the Mate version
[02:59] <Hulio> so classic
[02:59] <Jordan_U> !ot | Hulio
[03:00] <NOTNICK> Jordan you volunteer here?
[03:00] <Hulio> haha
[03:00] <NOTNICK> This doesn't earn you, anything?
[03:00] <Hulio> !ot NOTNICK
[03:00] <Hulio> wow
[03:00] <Hulio> not work for me?
[03:00] <Jordan_U> TTTA: Unfortunately I need to leave, and I was hoping to get you sorted out, but hopefully another day or in a few hours I will be able to help you again.
[03:00] <Hulio> !ot | NOTNICK
[03:00] <NOTNICK> I'm sorry notnick?
[03:00] <Hulio> oh i see.
[03:00] <dax> Stick to Ubuntu support here guys, thanks.
[03:00] <TTTA> thansk Jordan_U, I'll probably be on all night
[03:00] <Hulio> brb
[03:01] <TTTA> is there anyone else online willing to hold my hand through some booting issues?
[03:01] <maddawg2> depends TTTA how sweaty are your hands?
[03:02] <NOTNICK> @ouromov
[03:02] <TTTA> dry as a rock, bb
[03:02] <NOTNICK> how can we speak privately?
[03:02] <NOTNICK> ==what does this do?
[03:03] <NOTNICK> There are so many rules.
[03:03] <NOTNICK> I can't even figure out to private chat or change nick.
[03:03] <NOTNICK> change nick to nick
[03:03] <TTTA> I had a stable win10/UBUNTU duel boot, until one day UBUNTU decided I'm not allowed to get past the login screen one day. So I nuked UBUNTU by reformatting its partition through windows disk manager
[03:03] <NOTNICK> THat sounds heavy TTTA.
[03:04] <TTTA> after restarting my computer, I got a device not found error, followed by a grub prompt
[03:04] <NOTNICK> Reminds me when I blew my entire neighborhoods fuseboxes due to my 18teraflop rig.
[03:04] <j4son> "whoops"
[03:05] <NOTNICK> You're speaking alien and I like it.
[03:05] <NOTNICK> I will learn quickly with you as my jedi.
[03:05] <TTTA> NOTNICk, for real, you've gotta keep the chatter down, it clogs up the channel and makes it more difficult for everyone to get help
[03:05] <NOTNICK> I aplogizieiie.. I already asked a number of times how to private message!"
[03:05] <nondescript> I rebooted my Ubuntu machine and seem to have drive issues. My LVM partitions are not being recognized
[03:07] <dax> NOTNICK: /query othernick, where "othernick" is the person you want to talk to. it'll create a new window tab along the top of the page
[03:07] <NOTNICK> thanks dax
[03:07] <zamN> help :( my ubuntu is infinitely booting with those stupid dots lighting up
[03:08] <NOTNICK> bh
[03:08] <NOTNICK> Where do I do that?
[03:08] <NOTNICK> sax?
[03:08] <NOTNICK> Dax*
[03:08] <dax> the same place you're currently typing
[03:08] <NOTNICK> got it
[03:09] <NOTNICK> Thanks.
[03:09] <NOTNICK> Sorry I'm only 9.
[03:11] <NOTNICK> Where is TTTA?
[03:11] <NOTNICK> And my main man ourourz?
[03:11] <TTTA> waiting in line for help
[03:11] <NOTNICK> Oh perfect than you can hold my hand!
[03:12] <tinyalpha> hello
[03:12] <ouroumov_> TTTA, so you've reinstalled Ubuntu onto the freshly wiped partition?
[03:14] <NOTNICK> I tried TTTA.
[03:14] <NOTNICK> They said it was anachronistic.
[03:14] <NOTNICK> Whatever that means.
[03:15] <TTTA> ouroumov: yes
[03:15] <TTTA> well, freshly created partition
[03:15] <ouroumov_> Alright, have you tried using boot-repair?
[03:15] <TTTA> didn't know that was a thing
[03:16] <ouroumov_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:16] <TTTA> I'm really, really new to UBUNTU, I honestly just installed it so I could play KSP in 64-bit
[03:16] <TTTA> but it's turned into a damn useful learning experience
[03:18] <sdk> Eh, Is there a way to know how long my laptop has been running on battery?
[03:19] <oaulakh> how to install ubuntu on usb from ubuntu?
[03:20] <NOTNICK> KSP?
[03:20] <oaulakh> how to install ubuntu on usb from ubuntu pc?
[03:20] <ouroumov_> oaulakh, simplest way is to use the dd command.
[03:20] <TTTA> ouroumov: should I hit the "Create a Bootinfo summary" button?
[03:20] <NOTNICK> j
[03:20] <NOTNICK> Yes.
[03:20] <oaulakh> ouroumov_, means ? i never used dd before will you guide little please?
[03:21] <NOTNICK> Oour I am from Brzo, just outside capital.
[03:21] <NOTNICK> Budapest is lovely.
[03:21] <zamN> hi, can someone give me some light on disabling ecryptfs?? It seems that is the source of all of my troubles and I just want to get rid of this.
[03:21] <ouroumov_> oaulakh, use "df" to locate the device for your USB stick, exemple on my machine it's /dev/sdc, then use the command "dd if=you.iso of=/dev/sdc ; sync" to burn the iso to the stick then flush your output buffer
[03:21] <zamN> thank you for that dax
[03:22] <ouroumov_> Be careful not to specify the wrong device oaulakh or you will do serious damage to your machine.
[03:23] <oaulakh> ouroumov_, no no you taking me wrong, i dont want to make usb just bootable for ubuntu i want to copy my whole os to usb or want to install ubuntu permanently on usb
[03:23] <ouroumov_> Oh
[03:23] <Rache> oaulakh: do you have the iso
[03:23] <oaulakh> Rache, yes i have but i want to copy my working os to usb, is there any way?
[03:24] <Rache> oh
[03:24] <ouroumov_> oaulakh, I've no idea if that would work, but you can try to image your hard drive to your USB using the same dd command.
[03:24] <Rache> rache: dd would do the job, what device is your hard drive
[03:24] <TTTA> ouroumov_: http://pastebin.com/rnM4vZLi
[03:24] <ouroumov_> Except if=/dev/sda (if sda is your primary drive)
[03:25] <ouroumov_> oaulakh, however you'll need as much space on your USB as your OS is using, do you have that?
[03:25] <oaulakh> ouroumov_, whole hard drive is alot bigger than my pen drive, it's 320gb but usb is only of 8gb
[03:26] <oaulakh> ouroumov_, yup i have that much space bcz my ubuntu is only using about 4 gb and 2 gb swap
[03:26] <Rache> oaulakh, how much space is ubuntu actualy using
[03:26] <oaulakh> Rache, only 4.1 gb u can 4
[03:26] <ouroumov_> oaulakh, check if the output of "du -hs /" is bigger than your usb
[03:26] <oaulakh> ok
[03:28] <oaulakh> ouroumov_, sorry but 5.4 gb but still less than 8gb thank god
[03:29] <ouroumov_> oaulakh, it won't work anyway
[03:30] <ouroumov_> I've just read this:
[03:30] <oaulakh> ouroumov_, ok so how i should approch to copy my os, i think best way is to install ubuntu on usb and then apply tar backup of my os to usb
[03:30] <ouroumov_> dd is a universal command line program used for low level copying of data. It will copy the entire drive, even if the used data is only consuming 10% of the beginning of the drive. For example, dd'ing a 100GB drive, where all the data is at the beginning, and is only 10GB is being consumed, the resulting file will be 100GB in size.
[03:30] <Rache> why dont you make a persistent bootable usb, and then copy your home over there, and install stuff
[03:31] <squinty> no kernel upgrades with persistance.... regular install to a usb stick allows total upgrading
[03:31] <oaulakh> Rache, bcz my ubuntu is just setup right way to do my development work, i just want that where ever i go , i just have to put my usb in som pc and i can countinue my work, hahahaha like hitman ;)
[03:32] <Rache> thanks squinty
[03:32] <Rache> ok scratch that idea
[03:32] <oaulakh> Rache, do you know how i can install ubuntu from just iso without going into partition and all that?
[03:33] <oaulakh> Rache, bcz rest copying os and all that i know how i will do
[03:34] <squinty> you can do regular install to usb stick... 8 gig is small though for expansion purposes.  if using on other computers, then doen't install any propritory video drivers
[03:34] <Rache> no I was thinking of using the dd utility to image your existing install to the usb, but im not sure how if you have muliple parts
[03:34] <oaulakh> Rache, but to install ubuntu i don't want to use other usb
[03:34] <oaulakh> anyone know how i can install ubuntu on usb from just it's iso?
[03:34] <Rache> seems i dont know
[03:35] <squinty> oaulakh,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[03:36] <x03> Hello. I am currently on Ubuntu. How can I create a bootable Windows 10 USB drive?
[03:36] <LambdaComplex> x03: Does Windows even use hybrid isos?
[03:36] <x03> Yes.
[03:36] <dax> !info winusb
[03:37] <oaulakh> squinty, thanks but i don't want to boot iso i know how to do it, but i want to install os please instead of making it just iso bootable
[03:37] <dax> !winusb
[03:37] <x03> That's a 502.
[03:37] <x03> Is it just me or the internet is falling apart?
[03:37] <TTTA> just the fun corners of it
[03:37] <squinty> oaulakh,  reread the link I posted. you are confusing two subjects
[03:38] <x03> Hah. Freshlight.
[03:38] <dax> x03: fun, the website for it fell over. oh well, that's the only thing we've found that works, and it isn't supported here anyway :\
[03:38] <x03> I'm just noticing that things that used to work automagically no longer do.
[03:39] <oaulakh> squinty, ohh my bad, thanks
[03:39] <squinty> oaulakh, yw
[03:40] <oaulakh> squinty, you solve my second usb issue ;)
[03:40] <squinty> x03,  have you checked MS's site...seem to remember they have their own usb maker (iirc)
[03:40] <dax> it's for Windows
[03:40] <x03> I don't suppose it runs on Ubuntu.
[03:40] <squinty> oaulakh,  tried that method a couple of years ago and it worked well.
[03:40] <dax> and before someone recommends dd or usb-creator-tool, neither of those work with Microsoft ISOs
[03:41] <TTTA> anyone free to help me un-brick my computer?
[03:41] <x03> What dax just said.
[03:41] <LambdaComplex> why the heck does dd not work though
[03:41] <LambdaComplex> what did ms screw up?
[03:41] <squinty> x03,  not sure if it would run under wine (or other wine emulators)  might be worth a shot
[03:41] <dax> LambdaComplex: dd only works with isohybrid images. Microsoft doesn't do isohybrid images (and neither did lots of other places until a few years ago)
[03:41] <LambdaComplex> TTTA: consider telling us what you did
[03:42] <x03> I tried winusb.
[03:42] <TTTA> I had a stable win10/UBUNTU duel boot, until one day UBUNTU decided I'm not allowed to get past the login screen one day. So I nuked UBUNTU by reformatting its partition through windows disk manager
[03:42] <LambdaComplex> dax: And that's why the first thing I asked was if Windows uses hybrid isos :P
[03:42] <x03> Let's see if this works. brb.
[03:42] <dax> LambdaComplex: mhm
[03:42] <TTTA> after restarting my computer, I was given a device not recognized error, then a grub prompt
[03:42] <dax> TTTA: boot from a Windows CD, repair your MBR. Removing Ubuntu in that way removed the bootloader files too.
[03:42] <LambdaComplex> >nuked ubuntu because the login screen stopped working
[03:43]  * LambdaComplex sighs
[03:43] <TTTA> I've fumbled my way through a liveUSB twice, and am currently running UBUNTU off of that
[03:43]  * squinty wanders off to watch some tv with "she who must be obeyed"
[03:43] <chuck3y> hi all
[03:43] <LambdaComplex> TTTA: either do what dax said or just....reinstall ubuntu i guess?
[03:43] <TTTA> I can get to a UBUNTU login screen now, but after I login it flashes a few screens quickly, then goes black
[03:44] <TTTA> I'm not entirely sure I have a Windows CD lying around
[03:45] <dax> TTTA: what's your end goal? dualbooting Windows/Ubuntu again, or removing Ubuntu and keeping Windows?
[03:45] <TTTA> someone asked me to pastebin the output from boot-repair a few minutes ago, but never responded
[03:45] <TTTA> dualbooting
[03:45] <dax> k, probably don't want to go with what i said then :\
[03:45] <TTTA> I mean, I'm perfectly fine with completely nuking UBUNTU and reinstalling from scratch
[03:46] <TTTA> that's what I was trying to do when I bricked it
[03:46] <x03_> guys guys guys
[03:46] <x03_> winusb didn't work but get this
[03:46] <x03_> what if
[03:47] <x03_> I got virtualbox, downlaoded the windows iso, installed windows in virtualbox, then downloaded the windows tool in that image, then created a bootable usb stick from within that
[03:53] <EldonMcGuinness_> Any ZFS users around?
[03:53] <TTTA> oh sweet baby jesus I found a WIN10 installation CD
[03:53] <EldonMcGuinness_> The do exists...heh
[03:54] <TTTA> yeah, did a fresh build recently for my brother, had to buy the OEM CD
[03:54] <EldonMcGuinness_> I'm trying to wrap my head around ZFS's abilities and looking for a bit of guidance. Any one?
[03:54] <EldonMcGuinness_> Why not use Win7 and get the update?
[03:55] <EldonMcGuinness_> I would imagine a license for that would be cheaper
[03:55] <EldonMcGuinness_> But I could be wrong, have not bought a windows license since 3.11
[03:55] <dax> EldonMcGuinness_: #zfs and #zfsonlinux are probably both likely to be more useful, unless you have Ubuntu-specific questions
[03:55] <dax> not a whole lot of ZFS people on here as a rule
[03:55] <EldonMcGuinness_> Thanks dax
[03:55] <TTTA> I'm like 95% sure WIN10 boots faster if you do a straight install, instead of an upgrade from Win7
[03:57] <EldonMcGuinness_> TTTA, yea, but the update method gets you a legit license and then you can just download the iso and install fresh
[03:57] <Hulio> is there a way to play 4k video mkv  in ubuntu?
[03:58] <zamN> hey, can anyone help me boot a usb drive from grub?
[04:00] <boriseto> Is there a way to change the screen brightness depending on the power source (if charging or not) in Ubuntu 14.04?
[04:00] <zamN> you could write a script to do it boriseto
[04:02] <boriseto> zamN, yeah, thought of that but was thinking something in the likes of utilizing some tools like tlp and similar... So, I guess that's the only solution for now, eh?
[04:05] <tinyalpha> i have a ubuntu question
[04:06] <[GH0ST]> That's fucked up.
[04:07] <Gallomimia> hey they get really mad if you swear in here dude
[04:09] <Jordan_U> boriseto: I don't have a Unity/Gnome machine in front of my right now, but I'm pretty sure it's a normal option within gnome-control-center .
[04:09] <bipul> what is Kernel Source Tree?
[04:09] <[GH0ST]> Well, I don't know about them but I'm setting up a virtual Windows installation to download the installer that would make me a bootable Windows USB so I can install WIndows on my computer.
[04:10] <Gallomimia> yeah.... that's a good reason to swear :( but still against rules
[04:10] <[GH0ST]> It's the only way to install Windows if you don't have another Windows, since they want profit so you'd have to go to a sales rep who has Windows and could in the worst case produce a bootable media.
[04:11] <[GH0ST]> But ain't nobody got time for that so I'm virtualizing a Windows.
[04:19] <boriseto> Jordan_U, if you are talking about the power options in system settings, it only has the brightness option, which is the same when on battery or on charger.
[04:45] <ihateinstallingo> Who's the "wwwbukolaycom" tab doing here?
[04:46] <ihateinstallingo> Also, I have a problem with Ubuntu and UEFI with the something else option
[04:47] <ihateinstallingo> Hello?
[04:48] <ihateinstallingo> Stupid phone
[04:49] <Nixeo> hi
[04:50] <ihateinstallingo> Stupid phone
[04:50] <nixeo-DOT-co> ?
[04:51] <nixeo-DOT-co> <<<
[04:51] <nixeo-DOT-co> hi Sean
[04:55] <NoCode> Does the Wacom Bamboo have full support under Ubuntu now? Or do I need to install some things for it to work?
[04:59] <AthenaPvP> Hey guys, how do I install a .iso to an external harddrive?
[05:00] <AthenaPvP> !burn
[05:02] <moonpunter> well dd is the actual program to use for something like that
[05:03] <moonpunter> if the iso is a Linux distribution, many of them also work with unetbootin
[05:19] <RoundDuckMan> Ubuntu won't boot on UEFI system with creating an FAT32 /boot/efi partition nor an EFI sys partition either
[05:20] <RoundDuckMan> Help?
[05:23] <RoundDuckMan> Help? Please?!
[05:28] <RoundDuckMan> bekks: Why doesn't Ubuntu Gnome boot after installing via "Something else" on a UEFI system?  I tried using an EFI sys partition and tried using a FAT32 partition as my EFI partition by linking /boot/efi to it, both don't work
[05:28] <developer> Hi
[05:29] <developer> Hello
[05:29] <developer> Can't able to install skype in ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64bit
[05:30] <RoundDuckMan> Also it's on a clean SSD, no Win here
[05:31] <RoundDuckMan> Is anybody active?
[05:32] <RoundDuckMan> Help?
[05:32] <RoundDuckMan> Help?
[05:32] <RoundDuckMan> Help Please?
[05:32] <RoundDuckMan> Any body here?
[05:34] <RoundDuckMan> free29: Can you help?
[05:34] <RoundDuckMan> Kinda desperate here.
[05:34] <RoundDuckMan> This place is so empty
[05:35] <free29> tell me what u need
[05:35] <mgor> RoundDuckMan, chill... if anyone can help they will answer. you should perhaps provide more details; what do you mean "via something else"? specify "doesn't boot", do you reach grub? does it fail after grub?
[05:36] <free29> explain me whats your trouble
[05:37] <free29> do you need to create a booyable usb memry stick
[05:37] <free29> ???
[05:39] <RoundDuckMan> mgor: Holy crap somebody responded. What has been happening is I tried manual partitioning to leave out some space and create multiple partitions, which are an root part, EFI part, and an home part. Grub doesn't appear at all, except one time due to me pressing enter I guess...
[05:40] <RoundDuckMan> And yes,  phone typing sucks
[05:41] <Dr-007> good morning, question; ive installed ubuntu besides windows by burning the iso from the website to a dvd. resized my partition manually and installed unbuntu, that all went well . then it had to restart, which i did. then it said my cd was still in my drive, so i got it out. then pressed enter, it explictely said to press enter. anyway, i thought it was not working because the message did not
[05:41] <Dr-007> dissapear so i forced a reboot at that time
[05:42] <Dr-007> now i cant boot into ubuntu
[05:42] <RoundDuckMan> the pressing enter moment was where it shown "invalid partition table" then booted
[05:42] <RoundDuckMan>  Strange
[05:42] <Dr-007> as in, the bootloader does not appear where i can choose from an os
[05:43] <mgor> RoundDuckMan, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Creating_an_EFI_System_Partition. Make sure you also have set the bootable flag on the EFI partition.
[05:43] <RoundDuckMan> mgor do I have to use gparted?
[05:43] <mgor> RoundDuckMan, another suggestion would be to install using automatic partitioning, and if that works, install again but don't remove, change or format the EFI partition
[05:44] <RoundDuckMan> I'll try the first option then
[05:45] <mgor> Dr-007, boot a live cd/usb, and try `boot-repair'
[05:45] <Guest15004> hello can anyone shed some light on how to fix indicator plugins. in particular the bluetooth and steam ones. they dont seem to respect any icon theme i have. heres a screeny http://i.imgur.com/n7rBij1.png
[05:46] <RoundDuckMan> Dr-007: what version of Ubuntu? I've been having similar issues as well, for some reason after an installation,  Ubuntu Gnome15.10 fr
[05:46] <RoundDuckMan> Locks up on shutdown
[05:47] <Dr-007> the last version of ubuntu on their site
[05:47] <Dr-007> anyways, the problem is that i cant even boot from the cd now
[05:47] <Dr-007> to try to reinstall ubuntu
[05:48] <Dr-007> so i dont understand whats going on
[05:48] <RoundDuckMan> Dr-007: the one with a white background for download? Plain 15.10?
[05:49] <Jordan_U> Dr-007: So currently only Windows boots for you?
[05:50] <RoundDuckMan> hopefully there's a bug report on this, these distros seem to get buggier over time...
[05:51] <RoundDuckMan> On the shutdown part
[05:52] <ramon> hola
[05:53] <Guest36646> ok
[05:53] <Guest36646> cuales son las salas en español?
[05:56] <Dr-007> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute/?version=14.04.4&architecture=amd64
[05:56] <Dr-007> @ RoundDuckMan ^
[05:57] <Dr-007> thats the one i installed
[05:57] <AciD`> hi
[05:57] <Dr-007> Jordan_U, yeah thats right, it only boots windows
[05:57] <Dr-007> so i installed easybcd to add a boot entry
[05:58] <AciD`> would you see why a --force-all on dpkg does not seems to fix the installation problem there : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15240673/
[05:58] <RoundDuckMan> Dr-007: 14.04? Strange happening there,  considered systemdump's not in 14.04
[05:58] <Dr-007> what do you mean?
[05:58] <AciD`> (as I did not have enough free space on /, I created a symlink /var/cache/apt/archives to the /home/acid/tmp/archives folder
[05:58] <AciD`> does dpkg not like symlinks somehow?
[05:58] <plytro> damn son you have a lot of unused packages
[05:59] <plytro> apt-get autoremove would free up a bunch of space for you
[05:59] <AciD`> plytro -> I'm in the process to manually ugrade from 14.10 to 15.10, so it's a mess, temporarly
[05:59] <RoundDuckMan> systemd is a buggy pile of crap at times, and it isn't in there as much in 14.04
[05:59] <plytro> AciD`: suck, I had 3 machines fail doing that upgrade
[06:00] <AciD`> usually, nothing a --force-all can't solve
[06:00] <plytro> actually not the case
[06:00] <AciD`> I was always able to fix debian/*ubuntu upgrades
[06:00] <AciD`> I do plan to fix this one
[06:00] <plytro> it broke because of some systemd/init conflict and the right package ended up being not installed
[06:00] <AciD`> somehow
[06:00] <plytro> it was recoverable
[06:00] <plytro> but annoyingly so
[06:03] <Jordan_U> AciD`: If by "manually upgrade" you mean that you aren't using update-manager or do-release-upgrade then I'm sorry but you're on your own. If you don't use those tools then things are *expected* to break.
[06:09] <sivik_> anyone know why my nvidia-settings gui would not have all the needed settings when I installed a newer version of the drivers?
[06:09] <AciD`> Jordan_U -> those tools do more than just changing the source.list* files and update/dist-upgrade?
[06:09] <Jordan_U> AciD`: Indeed they do.
[06:09] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | AciD`
[06:09] <AciD`> what do they do?
[06:09] <plytro> Jordan_U: really?
[06:10] <plytro> observation leads me to disagree with your statement
[06:10] <Jordan_U> plytro: Yes really, and manually changing your sources.lst hasn't been supported for many years.
[06:10] <AciD`> this guide is for people having a normal internet connection, mine is so slow I had to dl the package for days (really), so I won't do 14.10 -> 15.04, then 15.04 -> 15.10..
[06:11] <AciD`> well, it always worked on debian and kubuntu for me, until now :)
[06:11] <AciD`> so, back to my question : do dpkg like symlinks?
[06:11] <Jordan_U> plytro: They especially handle odd cases like the transition to systemd...
[06:11] <plytro> I don't know man... I'm reading the python script and don't see much beyond what AciD` said
[06:13] <AciD`> I'm in a middle of an upgrade and everything is falling. It's like in the movie where the hero has to run to save its life at the end when the deed in done
[06:13] <AciD`> :)
[06:13] <AciD`> is there a way to make dpkg very verbose?
[06:13]  * plytro goes to read the source of DistUpgrade.DistUpgradeFetcherCore
[06:13] <Rochvellon> AciD`: maybe it would be better for you using the LTS
[06:14] <Jordan_U> plytro: Are you also reading the source of the release upgrade tool that do-release-upgrade downloads and runs?
[06:14] <plytro> that would be what I just said
[06:14] <plytro> I assume you've read it
[06:14] <AciD`> yes it would Rochvellon, I don't know why I upgraded to 14.10 a few years back. Now I'm stuck and need to upgrade (for various reason), after trying yesterady to downgrade..
[06:15] <Jordan_U> plytro: I haven't read any current version of it. Last I looked at it was years ago.
[06:15] <AciD`> I don't understand why dpkg says cannot access archive: No such file or directory, since the files exists (although, behind a symlink)
[06:16] <Jordan_U> AciD`: Downgrading is even less supported and more likely to break things than manually upgrading. I would recommend re-installing, which you can do preserving your /home/ directory (even if it's not on a separate partition).
[06:16] <geirha> That's a ppa-package
[06:17] <AciD`> Jordan_U -> that's my last option, since like I said I can't really download anything except if I take the entire week..
[06:17] <geirha> It's best to disable the ppa's, and preferably uninstall the ppa-packages before upgrading
[06:17] <Jordan_U> AciD`: Do you have a local Linux Users Group? Someone might be willing to mail you an Ubuntu install CD.
[06:18] <AciD`> Jordan_U -> not sure, I could see tomorrow
[06:19] <AciD`> is there a way to list all the ppa 'links' you have installed, in order to 'reverse' the install with `add-apt-repository --remove <the ppa link>`?
[06:19] <geirha> look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[06:20] <Jordan_U> AciD`: Another thing that do-release-upgrade does is disable all ppas before continuing on with the rest of the upgrade.
[06:20] <AciD`> yep, I should have though of that :)
[06:20] <geirha> Jordan_U: Right, but it doesn't purge the ppa
[06:20] <AciD`> answer to my previous question : http://askubuntu.com/questions/148932/how-can-i-get-a-list-of-all-repositories-and-ppas-from-the-command-line
[06:21] <Jordan_U> geirha: Indeed. A part of me wishes that it would, and another part understands why users would dislike that.
[06:24] <Rochvellon> AciD: ppa-purge
[06:24] <plytro> Jordan_U: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/
[06:24] <plytro> upgrade tool?
[06:24] <AciD`> ok, good to know, too bad it's not installed by default, since I cannot install it :x
[06:26] <Rochvellon> And maybe it would better if you go directly to 16.04, AciD
[06:26] <AciD`> I though of that, but it's still in alpha isn't?
[06:26] <AciD`> I want a stable system, as much as possible
[06:27] <plytro> its within 2 months of release
[06:28] <plytro> its gotta be pretty stable at this point
[06:28] <plytro> Beta 1 3 days ago
[06:28] <plytro> well xubuntu wsa
[06:28] <plytro> was
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> dax: tnx
[06:28] <dax> thanks
[06:31] <AciD`> ok, even after removing all the ppa (except kubuntu ppa backports, I get the same kde-l10n-en/fr error
[06:31] <AciD`> :|
[06:31] <plytro> did you do an apt-get update?
[06:31] <AciD`> yep
[06:32] <AciD`> note to self : use a 25GB / partition instead of 20 next time
[06:32] <geirha> just removing the ppa, won't remove/downgrade the packages though
[06:33] <AciD`> well, I guess the version would still be very ancient since the ppa were for 14.10
[06:33] <AciD`> utopic!
[06:34] <plytro> sudo apt-get autoclean
[06:34] <AciD`> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15240865/ that line 9..
[06:34] <geirha> Yeah, running out of space on / is not too uncommon. I just move various directories to new partitions. Like /var/cache/apt
[06:34] <AciD`> plytro -> I don't want to lose my week of dling those package though :x
[06:35] <AciD`> geirha -> I just did that, I moved /var/cache/apt/archives/ to my home, then symlinked it
[06:35] <AciD`> I'm now wondering if that's the cause of dpkg shocking on that install (where I used --force-all, which is usually the magical cmd to solve any pb ;p)
[06:36] <Jordan_U> AciD`: apt should have no issue with such a symlink, and dpkg even less so.
[06:36] <AciD`> *chocking
[06:36] <AciD`> hm
[06:36] <swift110-phone> Whos getting a ubuntu tablet?
[06:36] <Jordan_U> !ot | swift110-phone
[06:37] <AciD`> last resort : where can I edit the dpkg database to remove by hand that libkgeomap-data 1.0~digikam4.2.0-0ubuntu1 pkg? :|
[06:37] <janmejay> hy my wifi is on but still it says disconnected? any idea how to fix it?
[06:37] <geirha> AciD`: What you want to do is remove/downgrade all the packages from the ppas. Either to install the official version, or remove it (because there is no official version of it)
[06:37] <geirha> That's what the ppa-purge command does
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> janmejay: ubuntu version and wifi chipset please?
[06:38] <janmejay> how to get it m newbie? lotuspsychje
[06:38] <janmejay> 14.04
[06:38] <plytro> AciD`: are you on dialup outside the us?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> janmejay: up to date to latest?
[06:39] <AciD`> plytro -> you could say that
[06:39] <AciD`> geirha -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15240889/
[06:39] <AciD`> :\
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> janmejay: you can find chipset with: sudo lshw -C network
[06:39] <AciD`> having a 30KB/s internet connection is a pita, trust me..
[06:40] <cherry_lin> sounds like edge
[06:40] <janmejay> lotuspsychje: the cmd you have given gives lot of info .
[06:40] <janmejay> which one is chipset
[06:40] <janmejay> ?
[06:41] <geirha> AciD`: So we'll have to manually go through each problematic package, and either downgrade it or remove
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> janmejay: ontop it will show you the brand, at bottom the driver=
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> janmejay: dont paste the whole text here, just tell me the brand and driver plz
[06:41] <AciD`> yep, that's what I'm doing, but for the first time I see a package that I cannot force-all install, which is weird
[06:42] <AciD`> (cf. my previous link)
[06:42] <janmejay> vendor broadcom corporation
[06:42] <geirha> AciD`: Well you don't want to install that package.
[06:43] <AciD`> well, it's what apt-get -f install want to do
[06:43] <geirha> which package is requiring it?   apt-cache rdepends kde-l10n-engb
[06:43] <AciD`> but the pretty common error 'that file is also provided by package X and cannot by overwritten' prevent that install, and the fix is always --force-all
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> janmejay: ok, now can you see what lsb_release -a shows?
[06:44] <AciD`> geirha -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15240917/
[06:44] <wlw> kkkk
[06:44] <geirha> AciD`: then you first have to download correct version. Not the ppa one you are trying to force install
[06:45] <janmejay> lotuspsychje: its a cmd ?
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> janmejay: yes
[06:45] <janmejay> if yes then it gives no arguments are permitted
[06:45] <janmejay> error msg
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> janmejay: lsb_release -a
[06:46] <geirha> AciD`: So one of those packages are still from the ppa. My first guess would be language-pack-kde-en
[06:46] <geirha> *one or more
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> janmejay: did you type right?
[06:46] <janmejay> ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[06:46] <janmejay> codename trusty
[06:47] <janmejay> Also it says no LSB modular are available
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> janmejay: 14.04 or 14.04.4?
[06:47] <AciD`> geirha -> oh, somehow I forgot to comment the kubuntu-ppa and kubuntu-backports, updating/upgrading now
[06:47] <plytro> janmejay: have you turned on the third party drivers?
[06:47] <AciD`> let's hope that will fix that
[06:47] <janmejay> 14.04.4 LTS
[06:47] <janmejay> don't know
[06:47] <plytro> all of my laptops require I enable propietary drivers to get the wifi to work
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> janmejay: very good up to date, follow what plytro suggest
[06:48] <AciD`> plytro :(
[06:48] <xangua> AciD`: why did you add those repositories in first place? Consider reinstalling?
[06:48] <janmejay> plytro how to enable it
[06:48] <plytro> http://ubuntuguide.net/install-nvidia-proprietary-drivers-in-ubuntu-14-04
[06:48] <plytro> ignore the add ppa stuff there
[06:48] <AciD`> xangua -> in order to have a more up to date kde5 apps, since the default one shipped with 15.10 are buggy as hell
[06:49] <plytro> note the last tab in the background behind the dialog where they are typing it says "Additional Drivers"
[06:49] <plytro> click on that
[06:49] <janmejay> on going to additional driver
[06:49] <plytro> it should scan and possibly find something
[06:49] <janmejay> there is no buttom to click
[06:50] <AciD`> ok, the upgrade is on going now..., good I guess
[06:50] <janmejay> no proprirty driver are in use
[06:50] <janmejay> plytro nothing till now
[06:50] <plytro> https://askubuntu.com/questions/47506/how-do-i-install-additional-drivers
[06:50] <plytro> what it looks like for nvidia stuff
[06:51] <plytro> further down you may see some broadcom stuff
[06:51] <plytro> that is what I had to do to get wifi working on my laptops
[06:52] <plytro> if you don't see anything, I'm not of much help other than doing the google leg work for you
[06:52] <AciD`> damn it, some packages missing, 40 minutes download needed :(
[06:52] <plytro> people don't really consider slow connections anymore
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | janmejay
[06:53] <AciD`> I did not before I had one too..
[06:53] <plytro> my wife's grandma was on dial up until last year
[06:53] <AciD`> hopefully i'll get a 20/2 connection in a few weeks
[06:53] <plytro> she couldn't even maintain 56k due to shitty lines
[06:54] <Jordan_U> AciD`: If you do decide to re-install, backup your /var/cache/apt/archives/ as it will contain archives of apps that you added post-install, that therefore would need to be otherwise grabbed again after installing fresh.
[06:54] <AciD`> :(
[06:54] <AciD`> Jordan_U -> thanks for the advice
[06:54] <plytro> AciD`: you could take your phone to starbucks and download the iso :)
[06:54] <Jordan_U> AciD`: You're welcome.
[06:54] <AciD`> hehe
[06:54] <janmejay> ubottu wifi isnot working how i do sudo aptget something
[06:54] <plytro> bring it home, copy to something and burn
[06:54] <AciD`> well, no starbucks where I live :)
[06:54] <plytro> or the library or something
[06:54] <plytro> or just better 4g service
[06:55] <jha> Hello
[06:55] <janmejay> plytro nothing come till now
[06:55] <jha> please share link to install skype in ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit
[06:55] <AciD`> jha -> skype.com
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> jha: you can enable the partner repo, and install skype
[06:56] <xangua> !Skype
[06:56] <janmejay> plytro nothing come till now
[06:56] <AciD`> hum, the webcam is supported with ekiga?
[06:56] <jha> AciD`, -> dependency errors occur
[06:56] <plytro> janmejay: do you mean the window still shows nothing or that something has finally shown up
[06:57] <AciD`> jha -> paste them
[06:57] <jha> okay
[06:57] <janmejay> plytro yes
[06:57] <plytro> there were two questions there
[06:57] <plytro> the window still shows nothing?
[06:57] <janmejay> yes
[06:57] <AciD`> jha -> iirc, skype is 32 bits, so you have to install some i386 package and add an additional arch
[06:58] <janmejay> no additional drives available
[06:58] <plytro> janmejay: then I don't have much help for you
[06:58] <plytro> mostly because I need to do dishes and get to sleep
[06:58] <plytro> work in 8 hours
[06:58] <jha> AciD`, -> okay
[06:59] <jha> AciD`, -> can you paste the url which packeges i have to install
[07:03] <AciD`> I cannot ; first show us the errors
[07:16] <z8z> Hello.... I'm using ssh -X  command to use iceweasel browser from a remote server of mine but it's incredibly slow
[07:17] <z8z> is that normal or there is something i'm missing that would have it to be much faster?
[07:18] <Jordan_U> z8z: ssh -X is pretty much always slow. Adding -C (for compression) might help, but X simply does a lot of round trips and isn't a very efficient networked protocol.
[07:19] <Jordan_U> z8z: FreeNX should do better (but can be hard to setup), and in fact VNC might even do better.
[07:20] <z8z> Jordan_U: i gave up on setting up VNC on my remote server since i couldn't render the window's frames in a proper way
[07:22] <Jordan_U> z8z: Is this a headless server?
[07:29] <z8z> Jordan_U: yes it's a 14.04lts server
[07:30] <formaggio> Hi everyone
[07:32] <Jordan_U> z8z: How/why did you install iceweasel on Ubuntu?
[07:32] <fauzi> test
[07:32] <fauzi> orang oot
[07:32] <fauzi> colek
[07:35] <formaggio> Booted up my friend's laptop this morning, and plymouth decided to just show up a purple screen with no onscreen logo, then switching to a black screen. Unity never comes up, login neither. He's on Ubuntu 15.10, and booting with 'nomodeset' works, even though the resolution is obviously skewed. He's running embedded Intel graphics; what could I try?
[07:37] <hateball> formaggio: If it is recently updated, try booting an older kernel
[07:37] <Jordan_U> formaggio: Does recover mode (without nomodeset) get the machine to a usable text tty?
[07:37] <baizon> formaggio: add noplymouth to your grub option
[07:37] <Dynetrekk1> hi, python3-dev depends on libpython3-dev but it is not going to be installed (from apt-get). how do I debug and/or fix this? ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[07:38] <formaggio> hateball: Trying now.
[07:38] <baizon> Dynetrekk1: you got some ppas? there could be a conflict there, thats why it wont install
[07:38] <Dynetrekk1> baizon: I've got one for gcc-5 IIRC
[07:38] <formaggio> Jordan_U: booting any kernel with single mode works fine
[07:38] <Dynetrekk1> baizon: seems irrelevant at first glance? anyway I still don't understand how to fix it
[07:38] <formaggio> baizon: Will try if hateball suggestion doesn't work
[07:38] <baizon> Dynetrekk1: what is the error msg?
[07:39] <Dynetrekk1> baizon: I'll gist it
[07:40] <Dynetrekk1> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c06fdd5c46659d7fe6e0
[07:40] <Jordan_U> formaggio: What about selecting the option to continue booting from there?
[07:41] <formaggio> hateball: an older kernel did the magic! Thanks :)
[07:41] <Dynetrekk1> baizon: python-dev can be installed
[07:41] <baizon> Dynetrekk1: like i said, youre using a ppa, thats why its not working
[07:41] <janmejay> i  want o  make a script which shows the status of all machine (on/off) runnig on same public ip
[07:42] <janmejay> any idea where to start
[07:42] <Dynetrekk1> baizon: hm. where do I enable/disable PPAs?
[07:42] <baizon> Dynetrekk1: software-sources
[07:42] <Dynetrekk1> baizon: what is that?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> formaggio: Staying with an older kernel permanently isn't a secure choice though, so we should try to figure out why the new kernel isn't working and fix it.
[07:42] <hateball> formaggio: I'd file a bug vs the broken kernel
[07:42] <Dynetrekk1> /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:42] <baizon> Dynetrekk1: youre using the “PPA for Ubuntu Toolchain Uploads (restricted)”
[07:42] <Dynetrekk1> probably
[07:42] <Jordan_U> !ppa-purge | Dynetrekk1
[07:42] <baizon> Dynetrekk1: youre using a DE?
[07:42] <Dynetrekk1> oh F, I've added this perforce PPA too
[07:42] <Dynetrekk1> baizon: not if I can help it
[07:43] <formaggio> Jordan_U, hateball: I agree, how can I troubleshoot the new one? I don't think I should file a bug since the owner of the machine is not very experienced and might have caused trouble by himself.
[07:43] <Dynetrekk1> problem is, I don't know what those PPA are named
[07:43] <Dynetrekk1> baizon: I've got KDE installed btw
[07:44] <baizon> Dynetrekk1: ubuntu-toolchain-r
[07:44] <Jordan_U> Dynetrekk1: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[07:44] <baizon> Dynetrekk1: then #kubuntu
[07:44] <Dynetrekk1> baizon: sad to hear that my gcc-5 packages will go away though :/ I thought they were officially supported
[07:44] <formaggio> booting to single mode works fine actually, and systemd shows no errors during bootup in there. Booting with nomodeset shows no errors as well - the only broken configuration is the one that doesn't let me see the logs haha
[07:45] <Jordan_U> formaggio: journalctl should still have the logs; I doubt that this bug is something that's preventing writing to the filesystem (and thus preventing logging).
[07:46] <AciD`> well, the upgrade was going great, until it first froze my screen, then I could check what was going on via ssh, but now that ssh session in frozen also, and I cannot ssh again to the box :|
[07:46] <Dynetrekk1> baizon: heh, the ppa-purge did nothing useful
[07:46] <baizon> Dynetrekk1: they are, but i cant tell what happens when u use a ppa
[07:46] <Jordan_U> AciD`: Was it slower than normal to log in via ssh?
[07:47] <Dynetrekk1> baizon: I've got to use the ppa to get the packages? or have I misunderstood 100%
[07:47] <AciD`> hard reboot or not hard reboot, that is the question..
[07:47] <AciD`> Jordan_U > not really
[07:47] <baizon> AciD`: :D
[07:47] <AciD`> I could do a `top` before it froze
[07:47] <baizon> you screwed 14.10 again? :D
[07:47] <AciD`> and apt-get was at a small 2% cpu
[07:47] <baizon> your*
[07:48] <AciD`> baizon > apparently :x
[07:48] <AciD`> I was in the process of upgrading to 15.10
[07:48] <AciD`> now I just hope it had the time to upgrade grub
[07:48] <Jordan_U> AciD`: That's unfortunate, as slow ssh would have been consistent with an OOM situation, in which case you could just wait until your swap is exhausted and the OOM killer is triggered, at which point things should start responding again.
[07:48] <AciD`> *update
[07:48] <baizon> Dynetrekk1: https://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies-after-adding-a-ppa
[07:48] <AciD`> Jordan_U > I has a swappiness set to 0, and no swap so..
[07:49] <Jordan_U> AciD`: I still think it's worth waiting about 10 minutes to see if it responds again, even if it is a long shot.
[07:49] <AciD`> yeah, I'll do that
[07:49] <AciD`> on the other hand other apps got closed (and I did not closed those ones)
[07:49] <AciD`> like steam
[07:49] <AciD`> (I checked this one first in order to close it via ssh ;))
[07:50] <z8z> Jordan_U: i installed it in order to use from remote and using the normal apt
[07:50] <Jordan_U> AciD`: If you've enabled sysrq magic (most useful sysrq options are disabled by default for security) then you can also shutdown somewhat cleanly that way.
[07:50] <formaggio> Jordan_U: didn't think of that, for the past boot it reports errors for Jetty (not installed), bluez and pulseaudio. I suppose they aren't important though, basing on my past experiences.
[07:51] <AciD`> yes, I plan to do the REISUB in a few minutes
[07:51] <formaggio> nothing relative to the graphics, anyway
[07:51] <Jordan_U> z8z: Ubuntu doesn't have iceweasel packages by default because it ships branded firefox. Are you sure you're not forgetting that your server is running Debian?
[07:52] <AciD`> iirc, I read somewhere that debian will ship firefox again, since mozilla changed something (can't remember what)
[07:53] <z8z> Jordan_U: omg you are right .... sorry
[07:53] <z8z> Jordan_U: but anyway i tried with ubuntu as well and had same problem
[07:54] <Jordan_U> z8z: Did adding -C improve performance enough for you?
[08:03] <AciD`> ok, I rebooted it, and could choose the 4.2 kernel, now it shows me the lightdm welcome screen, but neither the mouse not the keyboard are responding :/
[08:05] <baizon> AciD`: reinstall ;)
[08:05] <baizon> AciD`: youre just wasting your time, a reinstall will be faster
[08:05] <AciD`> :(
[08:05] <AciD`> not if you consider the download time !
[08:05] <AciD`> (I'm on a very, very, VERY slow internet connection)
[08:06] <Dynetrekk1> so I've removed all PPAs from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*, run apt-get autoclean and apt-get clean, sudo dpkg --configure -a, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, but I keep getting the same error msg https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c06fdd5c46659d7fe6e0
[08:06] <xangua> Are you saying you don't have the live ISO you used to install Kubuntu?
[08:06] <AciD`> Dynetrekk1 > what does apt-get -f install says?
[08:06] <z8z> Jordan_U: i'll try now with -C option
[08:07] <Dynetrekk1> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 10 not upgraded.
[08:07] <AciD`> xangua > not for 14.10 now
[08:07] <AciD`> *no
[08:08] <xangua> Dynetrekk1: that's not how one removes PPA's , that will not downgrade any package you installed
[08:08] <Dynetrekk1> xangua: then how do I fix it? ppa-purge just spews error messages to me
[08:08] <Dynetrekk1> about PPAs not existing
[08:09] <Jordan_U> Dynetrekk1: That's because you already deleted the entries from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ manually, which we never asked you to do.
[08:09] <Dynetrekk1> Jordan_U: I've moved them, can move them back, I tried ppa-purge before
[08:09] <Dynetrekk1> there, now I moved them back
[08:09] <Dynetrekk1> apt-get install -f gives the same output
[08:09] <Jordan_U> Dynetrekk1: Move them back, pastebin the exact invocation of ppa-purge and it's complete output.
[08:10] <xangua> AciD`: can you run: sudo apt-get update && apt-get install ppa-purge ?
[08:11] <Dynetrekk1> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ed5c7d54e38554c00f95
[08:11] <Dynetrekk1> Jordan_U: not much
[08:12] <Dynetrekk1> Jordan_U: what to do based on that?
[08:13] <Jordan_U> Dynetrekk1: Please pastebin the output of "ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*" .
[08:14] <Dynetrekk1> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4e62db5daa9676f67734
[08:14] <AciD`> xangua > I don't have ppa-purge on this system yet, and right now I cannot access it (I just hard reset the computer and used the recovery mode in grub, but then it shows me the recovery menu, and my usb keyboard is not recognized once I leave the grub menu...)
[08:15] <AciD`> sounds like a reinstall is an option then :[
[08:17] <jushur> AciD`: you should make a habit of saving update packages on a drive so you can use them as cache. as you are on slow connection.
[08:17] <baizon> Dynetrekk1: ubuntu-toolchain-r-test-trusty.list <- this is test stuff it breaks thinkgs
[08:17] <Jordan_U> Dynetrekk1: Note that all of those ppas, except webupd8team-java-trusty, are already disabled by being commented out.
[08:17] <baizon> *things*
[08:18] <baizon> Jordan_U: what about ubuntu-toolchain-r-test-trusty.list ?
[08:18] <baizon> Dynetrekk1: did you run apt-get update?
[08:18] <AciD`> do you think I should then download the 16.04 iso ?
[08:18] <Dynetrekk1> baizon: yes
[08:19] <Jordan_U> baizon: Its contents are "# deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain-r/test/ubuntu trusty main", i.e. commented out. That doesn't mean that Dynetrekk1 might not still have packages from said ppa installed.
[08:19] <Dynetrekk1> Jordan_U: is there a way of getting rid of those PPAs?
[08:20] <Dynetrekk1> annoying to be adviced to install PPAs then "waah they break your system" :/
[08:20] <Jordan_U> AciD`: No. 16.04 has only barely had its first beta and is going to have so many updates you'll be constantly downloading.
[08:21] <baizon> Dynetrekk1: youre wrong in this matter... from the ppa "Toolchain test builds"
[08:21] <baizon> Dynetrekk1: so test builds are for testing, not stable things.
[08:21] <Jordan_U> Dynetrekk1: If you think that you still have packages from any of those ppas installed (I haven't been following all of this, so I don't know if you do or not) then you can uncomment the ppa, then use ppa-purge (which will remove all of the packages from the ppa, then comment it out again).
[08:24] <AciD`> ok, only 25 hours to dl, yay \o/ ! http://i.imgur.com/6fcDkRR.png
[08:24] <Dynetrekk1> Jordan_U: did that, output seemed sensible, the python3-dev package version seems to make sense, but I still can't install
[08:24] <AciD`> T_T
[08:24] <baizon> AciD`: youre doing fine :)
[08:24] <AciD`> I hope that server supports the wget -c cmd..
[08:27] <Jordan_U> AciD`: I'm sure it does, and if it doesn't then you can always use wget -c with a mirror that does support it. Even if you get a slightly corrupt iso you can use zsync to only re-download the corrupt portion, and ensure that you end up with a valid download.
[08:29] <Jordan_U> AciD`: I never trust the browser with large downloads, I pretty much always just start with wget.
[08:29] <AciD`> oh, I did not know about zsync
[08:29] <AciD`> cool
[08:29] <AciD`> yeah I usually do that too, but I got anxious to start the dl asap ;p
[08:30] <AciD`> in the mean time, I'll try to chroot to the box to see what's going on there
[08:30] <jizzle> test
[08:30] <jizzle> ok you can see me
[08:31] <somsip> !test | jizzle
[08:31] <jizzle> hmmm
[08:32] <jizzle> i have a faggot name lol, i wanted jman-_-
[08:32] <jushur> !language | jizzle
[08:38] <norc> Is there some adequate text editor for editing large text files (couple gigabytes large)?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> norc: The classics like vim and emacs will do that fine. If you want GUI based, I think that Gedit can as well but I haven't personally tried it.
[08:39] <TTTA> I thought I just freshly installed UBUNTU on an unused partition, but when I booted from that drive through BIOS, is game a bootMGR error and told me to press ctrl+alt+delete to reset
[08:40] <TTTA> now I'm trying to install again through "try UBUNTU without installing it", and it's detecting another installation of UBUNTU
[08:40] <norc> Jordan_U: vi is crashing while opening the file.
[08:40] <norc> And this is a remote server so I do not have X11.
[08:41] <AciD`> norc > tried with vim, and not vi ?
[08:41] <norc> AciD`: I meant vim. ;-)
[08:41] <AciD`> tried nano, jed, emacs? :)
[08:42] <norc> AciD`: Just had an idea. This might actually be memory related, let me try opening the file on my local machine.
[08:44] <C0r3> Guys, I need a little help. I have installed Ubuntu GNOME on my pc using bootable usb drive. I made the usb drive bootable using 'dd' command. Now when I plug my usb into the pc, I'm unable to create and delete files. How do I get my permissions back?
[08:44] <C0r3> And how do I format my usb drive?
[08:45] <Ben64> C0r3: you can format it using gparted
[08:46] <C0r3> Ben64: Trying it out
[08:47] <C0r3> Ben64: Is there any other way?? Because for that I'll have to install gparted. How about gdisk??
[08:48] <howi> hello! does anyone know of a way to stop heirloom mailx from making 'mbox' files for every read IMAP message?
[08:51] <Sakis> :D
[08:51] <jizzle> testtest
[08:51] <jizzle> :D
[08:51]  * Sakis hello from Greece! :D
[08:51] <jizzle> IM SORRY IF I CALLED ANYONE A FAGGOT:@
[08:52] <jizzle> I DIDNT MEAN IT!
[08:52] <dax> move on.
[08:52] <jizzle> :D
[08:52] <jizzle> so whats everyone doing
[08:52] <Sakis> whats up mates ? :D
[08:53] <C0r3> jizzle: Installing gparted! :P
[08:53] <jizzle> it comes with ubuntu tho
[08:53] <jizzle> C0r3,
[08:53] <dax> nope, it's just on the livecd
[08:53] <z8z> Jordan_U: It speeded up a bit but still very slow.... for now i'll deal with it
[08:54] <z8z> Jordan_U: Thank you very much for your help anyway
[08:54] <Jordan_U> z8z: You're welcome.
[08:54] <C0r3> dax: Exactly!
[08:54] <C0r3> By the way, my internet in Ubuntu is really slow!!!
[08:55] <ouroumov> C0r3, you mean your browser?
[08:55] <C0r3> No, the internet connection.
[08:55] <ouroumov> Did you benchmark it?
[08:56] <C0r3> I have a 60KBps link and when I'm trying to do a system update via terminal, it gives me 3kBps speed.
[08:56] <C0r3> ouroumov: What is benchmarking?
[08:57] <ouroumov> C0r3, that maybe because the update server can't send you the data as fast as you can receive it.
[08:57] <C0r3> Well, I heard that there was some bug with Debain and in some file we have to change a line, related to 'dns' or something... I just installed Ubuntu GNOME. I'll have to update that file
[08:57] <ouroumov> C0r3, in this instance it's running a test to check how fast your connection is;
[08:58] <ouroumov> I don't think so C0r3
[08:58] <ouroumov> There was a snafu with a library in a function used for dns resolving recently but it's been fixed already.
[08:58] <ouroumov> You just gotta do the update as usual
[08:59] <jizzle> btw i cannot send to #vim, why is that?
[09:00] <ouroumov> jizzle, sometimes you need a registered nickname to be able to send a message
[09:00] <C0r3> ouroumov: I'll give you the link. Hang on.
[09:00] <jizzle> oh:@
[09:00] <dax> jizzle: because you're not identified to nickserv. see /msg nickserv help, and if you need help with that process message an active staffer (see /stats p) or /join #freenode
[09:01] <C0r3> ouroumov: http://itsfoss.com/speed-up-slow-wifi-connection-ubuntu/ Check the solution 3
[09:01] <TTTA> I'm trying to get a fresh UBUNTU install, but I'm having some weird issues. I installed it once, everything seemed to have gone fine, but when I try to boot to that drive I get the "Bootmgr is missing Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart" error
[09:02] <TTTA> but windows isn't even on that physical drive
[09:02] <Jordan_U> TTTA: So you've re-installed Ubuntu since you were last in the channel?
[09:02] <TTTA> I've reinstalled Windows, reinstalled UBUNTU, added a fresh new drive
[09:03] <TTTA> spent over an hour of my life with microsoft tech support
[09:03] <ouroumov> C0r3, it doesn't look to harmful so why not
[09:03] <TTTA> I'll never get that hour back. She was so sure it was a mobo problem.
[09:03] <ouroumov> too *
[09:03] <C0r3> TTTA: You installed windows first and then ubuntu?
[09:03] <TTTA> yes
[09:03] <TTTA> on seperate physical drives
[09:03] <C0r3> ouroumov: Okay!! I'm trying those solutions. I expect at least one to work for me.
[09:04] <Jordan_U> TTTA: I generally recommend installing grub's boot sector to the MBR of every drive in a BIOS based system, so that it doesn't matter which you boot. Though that means that the Windows drives can then no longer be used without the Ubuntu drive plugged in.
[09:04] <TTTA> when you say plugged in, do you mean the liveUSB has to be physically plugged in?
[09:04] <TTTA> or just the data has to be there?
[09:05] <dax> by "ubuntu drive" he means the place you installed ubuntu to
[09:05] <dax> not the liveusb
[09:05] <TTTA> gotcha
[09:06] <TTTA> ok I don't know anything about grub's boot sector, the significance of it, what it does
[09:07] <Jordan_U> TTTA: Are you currently booted into an Ubuntu LiveUSB?
[09:07] <TTTA> no, I'm on WIN10 finally
[09:09] <Jordan_U> TTTA: OK. Can you boot into an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB so that we can work on getting Ubuntu booting?
[09:09] <TTTA> alright, brb
[09:11] <TTTA_> ok, I'm back on UBUNTU live
[09:12] <Jordan_U> TTTA: OK, I know you've run boot info script a few times already, but please run it again and from here: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript (Note, not the version from sourceforge).
[09:17] <pavlushka> something is trying to activate my webcam remotely, what do I do?
[09:17] <TTTA_> Jordan_U: I'm getting error messages when I try to run that
[09:18] <TTTA_> hold on
[09:18] <Jordan_U> pavlushka: Figure out why your machine is accessible on the internet in that way. Are you using your home Wifi to connect to the internet? Are you on a large Campus LAN?
[09:19] <TTTA_> I'm having problems figuring out how to install mark v1.3.4
[09:20] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: What error messages?
[09:20] <TTTA_> which boot info script is insisting I use
[09:20] <pavlushka> Jordan_U: I m using home router through wired lan to connect.
[09:20] <TTTA_> "mawk v1.3.3" has known bugs. Install "mawk v1.3.4" or newer from http://invisible-island.net/mawk/ or use "gawk" instead.  Please install the missing program(s) and run Boot Info Script again.
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: what version of ubuntu are you on mate?
[09:20] <pirx_> hello! i have a Ubuntu server with 2 NICs. one in 10.10.0.0/24 (eth0) and one in 10.10.1.0/24 (eth1). i can connect to port 80 on from respective LAN, but i cant connect to 10.10.0.43 (its IP on eth0) from the 10.10.1.0/24 LAN, and vice versa
[09:21] <pirx_> http://pastebin.com/yajee6JJ   and forwarding is off. Any ideas?
[09:21] <Jordan_U> pavlushka: Is your router also your modem? Is it in "bridged" mode? (I'm trying to determine if you're behind NAT, because you should be).
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> pirx_: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys or ##networking can assist you with this?
[09:22] <pavlushka> Jordan_U: no, it is not in bridged mode.
[09:22] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: apt-cache policy gawk
[09:23] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: 14.04 lts
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: upgraded to latest 14.04.4?
[09:24] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: is it necessary???
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: very
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: lsb_release -a please?
[09:24] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: yep
[09:25] <TTTA_> Jordan_U: http://termbin.com/yy44
[09:26] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: sudo apt install gawk
[09:26] <pirx_> lotuspsychje: didnt know about #ubuntu-server, thanks!
[09:26] <daya> Any one executed https://github.com/fjserna/CVE-2015-7547 in Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> pirx_: welcome
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> !usn | daya
[09:27] <dax> daya: should be patched in 12.04, see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2900-1/
[09:27] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Then try boot info script again.'
[09:28] <daya> lotuspsychje dax yes I have gone through the USN and applied the upgrade. But I am eager to execute the POC and verify the system is affected
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> daya: if the usn says its patched, your safe to go
[09:28] <TTTA_> http://pastebin.com/pJkVyXjB
[09:29] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS Release:14.04 Codename:trusty
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> daya: but that doesnt mean they cant enter by other services right,
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> !security | daya
[09:29] <pavlushka> Jordan_U: SO?
[09:29] <dax> did that security update set the flag to prompt for restart?
[09:30]  * dax hopes so
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: what other services do you run on your machine? when did your cam started being controlled remotely?
[09:31] <daya> lotuspsychje: yes fine, I am seeking just to simulate the poc in 12.04 without libc6 upgrade and after upgrade.
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> daya: why are you eager for pentesting this?
[09:32] <daya> lotuspsychje: My managers claim that we are not affected as we don't use that service.
[09:32] <daya> lotuspsychje: I myself can't simulate the poc
[09:33] <Jordan_U> daya: Boot from a 12.04 LiveCD/USB in a VM and test the code.
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> daya: is your managers machine up to date?
[09:33] <daya> lotuspsychje: I have two test machine without upgrade.
[09:33] <TTTA_> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/pJkVyXjB
[09:34] <pirx_> wc
[09:34] <Jordan_U> daya: You don't use DNS?
[09:34] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: its a mozilla browser, an irc client, terminal
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: can you tell us why you suspect your webcam remotely token over?
[09:35] <daya> Jordan_U: The system doesn't acts as DNS server.
[09:35] <daya> Jordan_U: but it will serve other task and have nginx and other web and java services.
[09:35] <pavlushka> it got lighted on and a newtab in mozilla opened, a porn one.
[09:35] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Try booting from sdc, the Samsung_SSD_840_Series . That should get you booted into Ubuntu (after which point we can make it so that booting from sda boots you into Ubuntu).
[09:36] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: it got lighted on and a newtab in mozilla opened, a porn one.
[09:36] <Jordan_U> daya: It's not the server side that is vulnerable (at least not primarily, I haven't looked at that side), it's the client side.
[09:37] <Jordan_U> daya: If anything on your server ever does domain name resolution then it's vulnerable.
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: i dont think someone remotely take over your cam, rather might be some popup or webcam site that trys to enlight it
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> TTTA_: not related to your issue, but did you firmware upgrade your 840 evo?
[09:37] <TTTA_> not that I'm aware of
[09:38] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: okay, so should I let it happen???
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> TTTA_: the 840 evo has a firmware performance bug, you need to apply from samsungs website before ubuntu install
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> pavlushka: purge firefox, clean youf firefox /home config, and reinstall clean
[09:39] <TTTA_> weird. I thought I'd loaded it to the 250GB 850
[09:39] <daya> Jordan_U: Have you simulated poc on 12.04 or 14.04 before and after upgrade.
[09:39] <TTTA_> actually, I can just take that whole drive out
[09:39] <daya> Jordan_U: Do I need DNS server to simulate it?
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> TTTA_: the 850 series are good by default, its only 840 evo that needs the newest firmware patch
[09:40] <pavlushka> lotuspsychje: thanx...
[09:40] <pavlushka> Jordan_U: thankx...
[09:42] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Ubuntu itself is installed to sdd, but grub's boot sector isn't (which is an oddity of Ubuntu's installer that should have been the better part of a decade ago IMHO).
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> daya: for penttesting purposes i would go for Jordan_U suggestion and run a not-upgraded 12.04 togheter with intrusion detector like snort or something
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> on VM
[09:44] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Please just try booting from sdc. If you do it fast enough then I may be able to walk you through getting a better configuration before I need to leave again.
[09:44] <TTTA_> alright, I'll be back shortly
[09:47] <TTTA> Ok, that gave me a device not readable error, followed by a long hexadecimal and a grub prompt
[09:48] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Well that's frustrating. Please boot back into the LiveCD/USB.
[09:49] <TTTA> I was going to try the 840 firmware update that was suggested real fast
[09:49] <daya> lotuspsychje: yes I agree, I have managed two machines 12.04 without libc6 upgrade. pointed the client to use servers ip as DNS resolver.
[09:50] <daya> lotuspsychje: but its not working as said. The server BTW is not DNS server.
[09:50] <Jordan_U> daya: Not being a DNS server is not mitigating the problem at all.
[09:51] <TTTA> Actually, that doesn't look like it's going to be fast, back to UBUNTU
[09:51] <Jordan_U> TTTA: sudo mount /dev/sdd7 /mnt/
[09:52] <Jordan_U> TTTA: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[09:52] <daya> Jordan_U: sorry :), you mean I have to setup server as DNS
[09:53] <Jordan_U> daya: No, that's not at all what I mean.
[09:53] <TTTA_> ok, loading into the 840 gave a device not recognized error
[09:54] <TTTA_> what's the next thing to try?
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> daya: also a security risk when pentesting not-updates machines connected to the network, try to do your work in a VM
[09:54] <rayfun> Hi, I'm trying to install current image of 14.04.4 server edition to a desktop machine using a USB flash drive. And each time I try, it complains that the CD-ROM coudn't be mounted!!!?!?? I'm on an USB flash drive.. not a CD-ROM..
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> rayfun: at wich part you getting this warning?
[09:55] <Jordan_U> daya: "There's a problem with salmanella in McDonalds burgers, you shouldn't eat them." "It's OK, I don't work at McDonalds, I only eat there, so I'm not vulnerable". (That's my analogy to your statement seeming to say "we don't serve DNS, and so we're not vulnerable" ).
[09:56] <daya> Jordan_U: :D
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> rayfun: you mean the pre-install text spitting out cdrom warnings?
[09:56] <rayfun> lotuspsychje, at the third step ("Detect and mount CD-ROM"), after "Choose Language" and "Configure the keyboard"
[09:56] <Jordan_U> rayfun: The error message could be better, but the problem is with mounting partition on the USB drive.
[09:56] <rayfun> lotuspsychje, no
[09:57] <rayfun> lotuspsychje, this http://askubuntu.com/questions/593002/fail-to-install-ubuntu-server-14-04-64bit-lts-from-usb-drive but the solutions dont work for me and seems to be not quite right
[09:58] <Jordan_U> TTTA: Did you see my mount commands that I posted above?
[09:58] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: sudo mount /dev/sdd7 /mnt/
[09:58] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[09:59] <lvn> .
[10:00] <TTTA_> ok, did all that
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> rayfun: wich tool did you create your stick?
[10:00] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Great. Now "sudo chroot /mnt/", and your prompt should change from "$ " to "# ".
[10:00] <rayfun> windows, linux live
[10:00] <rayfun> lotuspsychje, windows, linuxlive
[10:00] <TTTA_> yup
[10:01] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Great, now run "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc --frontend=text" .
[10:01] <rayfun> lotuspsychje, how could this make a differene?
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> !usb | rayfun can you try with another tool perhaps
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> rayfun: just trying to widen your options mate
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> rayfun: so many factors can corrupt an install
[10:01] <rayfun> lotuspsychje, sure, I'll have a try at dd under linux
[10:02] <TTTA_> ooook
[10:02] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: When asked about "Linux command line" just leave it at its default, blank, and continue by pressing Enter.
[10:02] <TTTA_> now I'm at linux command line?
[10:02] <TTTA_> ok
[10:02] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Same for "Linux default command line:".
[10:02] <TTTA_> ok
[10:03] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Now please pastebin the prompt (including the list of possible installation devices).
[10:03] <TTTA_> it just reads "Replacing config file /etc/default/grub with new version"
[10:03] <TTTA_> " root@ubuntu:/# "
[10:04] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: It should have asked about install devices first.
[10:04] <TTTA_> nope
[10:05] <TTTA_> it went straight from linux default command line to placing config files
[10:05] <TTTA_> with two empty lines in between
[10:05] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Please pastebin the full output that dpkg-reconfigure gave, then pastebin the output of "debconf-show grub-pc".
[10:06] <TTTA_> you mean the dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc --frontend=text?
[10:07] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Yes.
[10:07] <TTTA_> I don't even need pastebin for that, it was pretty short
[10:08] <TTTA_> Configuring grub-pc -------------------  The following Linux command line was extracted from /etc/default/grub or the  `kopt' parameter in GRUB Legacy's menu.lst. Please verify that it is correct,  and modify it if necessary. The command line is allowed to be empty.  Linux command line:    The following string will be used as Linux parameters for the default menu entry but not for the recovery mode.  Linux default command line:
[10:08] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: apt-cache policy grub
[10:09] <TTTA_> http://termbin.com/4rg6
[10:10] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: OK, that's good. Still waiting on the output of "debconf-show grub-pc".
[10:10] <TTTA_> http://termbin.com/dtym
[10:12] <madjoe> could you help me to report a bug - what package is responsible for login screen after you suspend vanilla Ubuntu 15.10
[10:12] <madjoe> ?
[10:13] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: OK, try "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy" even though you're not actually upgrading from grub legacy.
[10:13] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Actually, nix the sudo, just "upgrade-from-grub-legacy".
[10:14] <TTTA_> used the sudo
[10:14] <TTTA_> got an interesting result
[10:14] <TTTA_> http://pastebin.com/W9B0Vh8V
[10:15] <Fudge> was just thinking wonder if its a firewall problem
[10:16] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Great. Hit Enter once.
[10:16] <madjoe> Ok, I believe it's unity-greeter
[10:17] <TTTA_> ok, got a list of all the places I can install grub
[10:17] <TTTA_> select all 6 of them?
[10:17] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: No.
[10:17] <TTTA_> ok
[10:18] <TTTA_> http://pastebin.com/8XcPXQrp
[10:18] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: You definitely don't want to select any partitions, and for your purposes it may be better to select just /dev/sdd (which contains Ubuntu).
[10:18] <TTTA_> done. hit ok?
[10:19] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: You selected it with space bar, and it now has a '*' next to it?
[10:19] <TTTA_> yup
[10:19] <TTTA_> took a few tries to figure out how to select in, not going to lie
[10:19] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Then yes, press Enter to continue.
[10:19] <TTTA_> *select it
[10:19] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: It's awkward for everyone, that's why I had you use --frontend=text before.
[10:20] <TTTA_> ok, grub legacy has been removed
[10:20] <TTTA_> ok, cool, thanks
[10:20] <TTTA_> so, what do we try now?
[10:21] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: I'm still confused as to why dpkg-reconfigure didn't work as I expected, but you should now have grub's boot sector installed to the MBR of sdd. run "exit" to exit the shell then reboot, specifically being sure to boot from sdd.
[10:21] <TTTA_> ok
[10:21] <TTTA_> specifically the 840?
[10:21] <TTTA_> cause I've got 3 SDDs in there
[10:21] <TTTA_> the other two are 850s
[10:22] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: By sdd, I mean /dev/sdd wwn-0x5002538da000b2f8 .
[10:23] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Note that if that drive doesn't show up in your BIOS's list of drives you can boot from, then that explains multiple things and we'll need to take another route.
[10:23] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: (The drive that has your Ubuntu installation on it)
[10:24] <TTTA> It showed up. I booted from it. Got the no such device and grub rescue. I'm going to try the other two SSDs now.
[10:24] <TTTA> Yeah I think it's not the 840
[10:24] <TTTA> Ok, got lots lines scrolling by, end trace
[10:25] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: I didn't say anything about SSDs, I said /dev/sdd. The "4th" drive (at least how linux counts them).
[10:25] <Shogoot> Hi all.  I changed my ssh_confoig to Port 2222 and restartet service, but when i do ssh -p 2222 user@ip i get connection refused. netstat says 2222 is empty so no service is listening on port. how so? when the restarting of the service is ok?
[10:25] <TTTA> Oh, I thought you specifically mentioned the 840 EVO earlier, maybe it was just the other guy
[10:26] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: I did, but that was earlier. This time I wanted you to boot from a different drive than I wanted you to boot from last time.
[10:26] <TTTA> Ooooh, ok
[10:26] <TTTA> Well, I did that, now it's paused at the end of a stack trace
[10:27] <TTTA> Frozen, rather, taking no input
[10:28] <Jordan_U> TTTA: Can you take a picture of the screen with a camera/phone and upload it to http://imgur.com for us to look at?
[10:28] <ex_> anyone from ind?
[10:31] <TTTA_> Sorry, phone decided to reload the page without asking
[10:31] <Shogoot> Hi all.  I changed my ssh_config to Port 2222 and restarted the service, but when i do ssh -p 2222 user@ip i get connection refused. netstat says 2222 is empty so no service is listening on port. how so? when the restarting of the service is ok?iptalbes is disble and so is ufw (ill enable ufw when iget this ssh mess right again)
[10:31] <TTTA_> Dunno how legible this is: http://m.imgur.com/qzixJAD
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> !india | ex_
[10:33] <TTTA_> Restarted, loaded up, got to choose to run UBUNTU, then there's something about a kernel panic
[10:33] <TTTA_> Which is never good
[10:33] <TTTA_> More pictures incoming
[10:34] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Well, this problem seems unrelated to the other problems. Do you have any unimportant USB devices that you can unplug? (The call trace mentions XHCI, the standard for USB 3.0)
[10:36] <TTTA> It keeps reloading on me, I missed it if you said anything after I posted that picture
[10:36] <Jordan_U> TTTA_: Well, this problem seems unrelated to the other problems. Do you have any unimportant USB devices that you can unplug? (The call trace mentions XHCI, the standard for USB 3.0)
[10:38] <TTTA__> Argh
[10:38] <TTTA__> Yeah just got the same kernel message two reboots in a row
[10:39] <Jordan_U> TTTA__: Did you try removing USB devices?
[10:40] <TTTA__> Everything but the keyboard dongle
[10:41] <drac0666> Hi i have custom script in caja, now it shows in right click menu -> it runs pluma(text editor) how i can pass file to pluma? i mean file on which i right clicked?
[10:41] <TTTA__> Do you want to just pick this back up tomorrow night? It's almost 5am here
[10:41] <Jordan_U> TTTA__: Sure.
[10:42] <TTTA__> You've been a huge help, I don't know how you can spend this much time just helping people on here
[10:42] <TTTA__> I owe you one
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | Jordan_U
[10:45] <Shogoot> Hi all.  I changed my ssh_config to Port 2222 and restarted the service (adn tried even rebooting), but when i do ssh -p 2222 user@ip i get connection refused. netstat says 2222 is empty so no service is listening on port. how so? when the restarting of the service is ok? iptables is disabled and so is ufw (ill enable ufw when i get this ssh mess right again)
[10:45] <\sve> Hey I borked my system. I messed up the login I have a USB pen drive with bootable Linux can I fix it?
[10:47] <drac0666> \sve i think you can chroot
[11:06] <Shogoot> Hi all.  I changed my ssh_config to Port 2222 and restarted the service (adn tried even rebooting), but when i do ssh -p 2222 user@ip i get connection refused. netstat says 2222 is empty so no service is listening on port. how so? when the restarting of the service is ok? iptables is disabled and so is ufw (ill enable ufw when i get this ssh mess right again). anyone that can help me debug this error?
[11:07] <Ben64> Shogoot: pastebin the output of "netstat -ln | grep 22"
[11:10] <ck_mfc> Shogoot: well, shouldnt you change the sshd_config instead of the ssh_config?
[11:11] <Ben64> ck_mfc: no
[11:11] <Ben64> wait, yes
[11:11] <Ben64> read that incorrectly
[11:11] <Shogoot> oh. god.
[11:11] <Shogoot> ck_mfc, OFC i sholud. :) thanks.
[11:12] <ck_mfc> ssh_config ist or the client. and sshd_config is for the sshd daemon :)
[11:13] <Shogoot> thanks both.
[11:21] <kcir784188> hello
[11:26] <jizzle> btw when you use clock() to get the time a function takes, does it include context switching to other processes or just that process? what about in threads?
[11:48] <BlackVenom> Hey folks
[11:49] <BlackVenom> Whats the best/preferred utility to use to format a USB stick?
[11:49] <PerlinNoise> BlackVenom, you can use Gparted
[11:50] <BlackVenom> Would that be parted from the terminal?
[11:50] <PerlinNoise> thats, parted
[11:50] <PerlinNoise> Gparted has a gui
[11:51] <BlackVenom> I mean I am using the terminal
[11:52] <PerlinNoise> BlackVenom, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/parted.8.html
[11:52] <BlackVenom> right lets have a go
[11:55] <kcir784188> anyone speed portuguese?
[11:55] <kcir784188> speek sorry
[11:58] <DiamondSword> hello .. I want to use 15.10. it's okay but will I have the option to upgrade to the version 16.04 LTS when it came up online? is it possible to upgrade from 15.10 to LTS?
[12:01] <geirha> DiamondSword: yes
[12:01] <PerlinNoise> DiamondSword, I think you can. But it's better to do a fresh install.
[12:02] <geirha> It will likely ask you automatically if you want to upgrade once 16.04.1 is released
[12:03] <DiamondSword> geirha, is it bad not a fresh install but upgrade?
[12:04] <DiamondSword> because I don't want to loose my settings,docs etc.
[12:04] <geirha> DiamondSword: should be fine. There aren't that many changes between 15.10 and 16.06
[12:05] <geirha> *16.04
[12:05] <DiamondSword> so, you're sure that I can move from 15.10 to 16.04 ?
[12:06] <geirha> most definitely
[12:06] <milan> i installed compiz manager, but the effect didnt really work, how to fix it?
[12:06] <DiamondSword> thank you geirha
[12:06] <milan> i have ubuntu mate 15.4
[12:07] <milan> 15.04*
[12:09] <DiamondSword> which one do you think is better, less laggy? 1- installing Linux as base os and using Windows 10 on Virtual Box 2- installing Windows 10 as base os and using Linux on Virtual Box
[12:10] <milan> DiamondSword: depends on your purpose
[12:11] <PerlinNoise> DiamondSword, which one are you going to use more?
[12:11] <milan> DiamondSword: in my opinion, since linux is much better than windows, i would do the first option
[12:13] <DiamondSword> I like Linux more but with Windows my machine works straight.
[12:13] <DiamondSword> most of the time I got volume, brightness, fn keys problems with Linux distros.
[12:14] <milan> DiamondSword: using windows is just not making your head itchy, but for better system understanding and freedom of choice, we can pick linux
[12:14] <PerlinNoise> DiamondSword, maybe upgrade kernel
[12:15] <DiamondSword> milan, I tried to fix just for controlling screen brightness with fn keys on Linux for more than 4-5 hours but I couldn't
[12:15] <DiamondSword> it's depressing :(
[12:16] <milan> DiamondSword: i think you can manage your own key bindings
[12:17] <milan> DiamondSword: for some reasons, for the one who wants to feel its greatness dont bother about that first, since you can do it manually
[12:18] <milan> DiamondSword: some Desktop Environment can fit your own disire, just go read about it first
[12:19] <DiamondSword> thanks ..
[12:27] <Bingo> Hi
[12:27] <PerlinNoise> hi
[12:28] <Bingo> Okay.. wubi installed ubuntu in windows 10, and the windows boot manager barfs
[12:28] <Bingo> exception
[12:28] <PerlinNoise> Better not to use Wubi, I heard
[12:28] <Bingo> oh.. it is in the live cd
[12:28] <Bingo> iso
[12:28] <ioria> !wubi | Bingo
[12:29] <Bingo> i try to re-install and wubi did it again
[12:29] <Bingo> !install
[12:29] <Bingo> !automate
[12:30] <Guest45671> Hi everyone
[12:30] <Bingo> Software updater here at burger king, is hung
[12:30] <Bingo>  :)
[12:31] <NMZ> hows everyone here
[12:31] <NMZ> I need help with learning the terminal I just moved from windows 10
[12:32] <ioria> NMZ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:32] <Bingo> NMZ ah say i say, yes, there is help for u.. on tha internet
[12:32] <Bingo> : )
[12:32] <NMZ> Bingo, I see
[12:32] <NMZ> thanks ioria
[12:33] <ioria> NMZ  you're welcome
[12:33] <Bingo> I.. myself had to get linux for dummies from the library
[12:33] <Bingo>  (smiles)
[12:33] <Bingo> .. my windows wobble
[12:34] <rory> Is it possible to increase the rate at which Ubuntu scans for wireless networks?
[12:34] <NMZ> Bingo, is that a book linux for dummies? I have one here just didnt have a chance to read it
[12:34] <ary> Hi felas. I just bought this brand new r9 380 and put it into my desktop. I installed the drivers correctly from repos and it is all working fine. But there is a glitch happening when i maximize or restore windows with too much text, like this window for exemple (the screen gets with noise black, pink and red, like an old tv without the cable signal). How do I fix this problem?
[12:34] <Bingo> Yes, it is.. a book from the dummies
[12:34] <NMZ> will have a look at it
[12:35] <NMZ> thank again hey Bingo
[12:35] <Bingo> nmz, there is much to learn (i also added ubuntu)
[12:36] <Bingo> course, i used ubuntu wid xp, so... long ago.
[12:36] <pers3us> rory: Yes, but why do you want to do that?
[12:36] <rory> pers3us: Just a nice-to-have. I need to hop networks a lot for testing, and it's a PITA to have to wait 60 seconds after turning my wireless hotspot on every time
[12:36] <rory> I guess a better question would be
[12:36] <rory> How can I increase the rate at which Ubuntu scans for wireless networks?
[12:37] <rory> please keep your judgement to yourself
[12:37] <Bingo> net manager pkgs differ?
[12:37] <pers3us> rory: Fair enough, I don't think it is easy, or some coniguration.
[12:39] <hil> rory, you might just trigger a scan like: sudo iwlist eth1 scan
[12:40] <hil> replace eth1 with your device
[12:40] <milan> can i upgrade my GTK.x version/
[12:40] <milan> ?
[12:40] <Bingo> yes
[12:41] <k1l_> milan: which ubuntu are you on?
[12:41] <pers3us> hil: rory might have to write a script to scan for the network if it is not connected.
[12:42] <rory> while true; do sudo iwlist...
[12:42] <rory> how ugly
[12:42] <k1l_> rory: if its about wardriving there are already apps and scripts there.
[12:42] <hil> ;)
[12:42] <rory> somewhere, somebody decided on a number of seconds to wait between scans. I'm trying to find where that's set
[12:42] <rory> I'm happy to compile stuff
[12:43] <rory> It's not wardriving rofl
[12:43] <rory> I need to create mobile hotspots often from various mobile devices, and switch between them
[12:45] <jackwebs> hey everyone, I am running dist--upgrade on remote server via ssh, i lost the connection partway through, any way to recover it to check the status?
[12:46] <pers3us> rory, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/network-manager-applet/git-master/view/head:/src/applet-device-wifi.c#L968
[12:48] <Bingo> ello gain
[12:48] <n00p> jackwebs, I don't believe there is a way unless you were using screen or tmux beforehand
[12:48] <rory> jackwebs: nope, that process got killed along with your session
[12:49] <rory> pers3us: Looks promising. But what I'm after is the part of the driver that CALLS that particular function
[12:49] <rory> Since that function is essentially "scan once"
[12:49] <rory> There must be something calling it every N seconds
[12:49] <Deshi> im having trouble getting newhosting vpn to work with ubuntu can someone lend a hand?
[12:50] <ary> Hi felas. I just bought this brand new r9 380 and put it into my desktop. I installed the drivers correctly from repos and it is all working fine. But there is a glitch happening when i maximize or restore windows with too much text, like this window for exemple (the screen gets with noise black, pink and red, like an old tv without the cable signal). How do I fix this problem?
[12:50] <ary> i found this but is for an intel vga: https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1435861/comments/5
[12:50] <jushur> !patience | ary
[12:53] <pers3us> rory: Clone the repository and check it? Although, this shouldn't be your approach. Better would be what k1l_ mentioned. i.e. write a script to scan, using iwlist
[12:55] <milan> i am using line desktop in linux, but i cant use it for free call, is there any stable version for this?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> what's line desktop?
[12:58] <Bingo> m.. synaptic doing it's thang
[13:03] <MoziM> how does one extract a .bag file on ubuntu 14.04?
[13:07] <Bingo> a .bag is a file format in ROS for storing ROS message data.
[13:08] <arkanium> hello
[13:08] <Bingo> http://wiki.ros.org/rosbag/Tutorials/Recording%20and%20playing%20back%20data
[13:08] <Ohga> Are anyone here familiar with xkb?
[13:09] <Bingo> bag the machine?
[13:12] <Bingo> ohga is that xkb keys?
[13:12] <Ohga> Bingo: key layouts, yes
[13:12] <Bingo> x.org has a wiki for it
[13:13] <Ohga> I've tried following all kinds of tutorials and docs and what not...
[13:13] <Ohga> so, the layout is the easy part.. I can't get the layout to work..
[13:13] <Bingo> laptops differ
[13:14] <Ohga> I'm on Xfce btw
[13:14] <Bingo> then look into xfce info on layout
[13:15] <Ohga> Bingo: so.. you're not well versed with xkb then?
[13:15] <Bingo> no, there is onboard
[13:16] <Ohga> ?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:19] <Bingo> onboard is onscreen keyboard in gnome
[13:19] <Bingo> huff
[13:19] <Bingo> why is auth failing in my software updater
[13:19] <Bingo> hi
[13:20] <Bingo> hi
[13:20] <Ohga> Bingo: um.. how would that help me?
[13:23] <Bingo> :}
[13:24] <Bingo> instead of worrying with re-install of ubuntu with windows, I am going at the windows side of that problem.
[13:29] <jushur> Bingo: you geting hash failures?
[13:30] <Bingo> public wifi, i think, cas chromium is updating atm.
[13:30] <Bingo> 64.2 megs
[13:31] <jushur> Bingo: "i think"? you are aware of how you connected to it right?
[13:31] <Bingo> chromium shouldn0t be a system update
[13:31] <Bingo> auth to tha server
[13:32] <vooze> Hi, I have reported this bug, where wallpapers don't get the right colors: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1550815 - But I don't know which package that sets the wallpaper. Can anyone help me here?
[13:34] <Bingo> change desktop background
[13:34] <Bingo> welcome
[13:35] <Bingo> er, unity has that one
[13:36] <Bingo> is that one a builtin
[13:36] <vooze> Bingo: I'm not asking how to do it ;) I'm asking which package that handles it.
[13:37] <Bingo> when i rt click i can launch "change.."
[13:37] <Bingo> it's built in in unity.
[13:37] <vooze> Bingo: I know I know.. You don't seem to understand my question
[13:37] <Bingo> a system setting
[13:38] <Bingo> mm, and i think the welcome.. pgk is the pastel screen that presents a 14.04 screen to log-on
[13:39] <Bingo> what video do you use with that bug?
[13:40] <PauloH> oi
[13:40] <PauloH> bom dia
[13:40] <vooze> Bingo: Video?
[13:40] <Bingo> would your driver cause bug vooze?
[13:41] <PauloH> usar ubuntu tweak é seguro,por exemplo tem uma função remover o kennel antigo,será que n danifica o sistema
[13:41] <vooze> Bingo: No. Its the same on both Desktop (nvidia) and Laptop (intel)
[13:41] <Bingo> oic, eww
[13:41] <PauloH> kernel
[13:42] <Bingo> 0-51-generic
[13:48] <Bingo> wwiv is a turbo borland bulletin board system (BBS) for people to call, or ssh/telnet/putty into your computer from anywhere on earth.
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> BBS? reminds me of the early 90s, before www
[13:58] <jackwebs> I'm trying to ubdate an old 12.04 instance and i'm getting this error:
[13:59] <jackwebs> W: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org  Release: The following signatures were invalid:
[13:59] <jackwebs> sorry; W: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org  Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1397815516
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> jackwebs  maybe because it's suse
[13:59] <jackwebs> any idea how to resolve? I've googled it and found something involving apt-get clean and moving sources files around, but it didn't work
[13:59] <jackwebs> MonkeyDust, where's it come from?
[14:00] <jackwebs> this is def ubuntu 12.04
[14:00] <cpaelzer> jackwebs: I thought of an external ppa but that doesn't make sense either does it ?
[14:00] <jackwebs> don't know, I don't really know what I'm doing :)
[14:00] <cpaelzer> jackwebs: what does "grep -Hrn suse /etc/apt/*" give you
[14:01] <cpaelzer> if it is a lot pipe to pastebinit and send a link
[14:01] <jackwebs> no, it's some stuff from when I installed owncloud
[14:01] <jackwebs> disable it?
[14:02] <cpaelzer> jackwebs: depends on what/why you actually did back then  - but yes most likely disable/remove that unusual stuff that breaks you
[14:02] <jackwebs> eh, just to install owncloud
[14:02] <jackwebs> I guess I can find updated source for that after the upgrade
[14:03] <llwalahoop> Hello! I'd like to make a clean install, but I can't get to BIOS to boot from CD. How could I install the system?
[14:03] <C0r3> Guys, can anyone guide me to format usb using gparted?
[14:04] <\9> C0r3: select the usb drive from the list of devices
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> llwalahoop  from any boot device, or just CD ... try USB
[14:04] <\9> it should have one partition, right click on it and select to format it
[14:04] <\9> then apply changes
[14:05] <\9> make sure that you're formatting the partition you think you're formatting or you may format something else instead
[14:05] <\9> which might not be desired
[14:05] <ouroumov> llwalahoop, you can't boot from BIOS or you can't get to the BIOS in order to boot?
[14:05] <llwalahoop> MonkeyDust: I can't get to BIOS at all
[14:06] <C0r3> \9: I have two partitions in my usb drive. One is extended and within it I have a logical partition. When I plug it to pc I get two drives. I used this usb as a bootable to install Ubuntu GNOME
[14:06] <ouroumov> llwalahoop, what brand is your machine?
[14:06] <llwalahoop> Sry!
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> llwalahoop  that's not for this channel, then, find a manual on how to do it
[14:06] <llwalahoop> ouroumov: It is HP655
[14:07] <\9> C0r3: so it ultimately still has only one "real" partition, right?
[14:07] <\9> you could probably nuke the extended partition and create a logical one in its place
[14:08] <C0r3> \9: Nuke as in??
[14:08] <\9> as in delete the partitions on the usb drive, and create a new one from the unallocated space
[14:09] <llwalahoop> MonkeyDust: Any idea what would be the appropriate channel?
[14:09] <C0r3> \9: Okay. I deleted all partitions.
[14:09] <\9> then create a new partition and format it with fat32
[14:09] <ouroumov> llwalahoop, usually you gotta ram some keys on your keyboard like Esc, F2, F12 etc while you're booting to get to the BIOS. The specific key varies with the model of computer. Look to google to find out what the key / procedure is for that machine.
[14:10] <C0r3> \9: I'm not getting the option for logical partition.
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> llwalahoop: or the ##hardware channel
[14:10] <\9> C0r3: right click the unallocated space, there should be an option for a new partition
[14:11] <C0r3> \9: I'm getting two options for 'Create as': Primary / Extended.
[14:11] <C0r3> \9: I did that.
[14:11] <\9> use primary
[14:11] <C0r3> Okay
[14:11] <\9> an extended is a partition that contains other partitions
[14:12] <\9> but if you just want to format the drive with a single partition, there's no need for that
[14:13] <\9> C0r3: and i cannot stress this enough: double check the actions you're about to perform before you perform them
[14:13] <C0r3> \9: Yeah. I know about extended. Thanks it fixed my problem... :) But I don't have the permissions on my drive I guess
[14:13] <\9> permissions?
[14:14] <C0r3> \9: Everything is fine! Thank you!!!!
[14:14] <\9> alright, no problem
[14:16] <C0r3> \9: Don't mind, but your nick is lil weird! :P
[14:23] <Guest12128> @perl
[14:23] <Guest12128> clear
[14:24] <C0r3> See you guys!
[14:24] <pavlushka> How can I get a cloak?
[14:24] <Guest12128> helo
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> pavlushka  ask in #freenode
[14:25] <pavlushka> Thanks
[14:31] <DrkKenzor> list
[14:42] <mayhem> hey people!
[14:42] <zulex> hola
[14:42] <mayhem> will unity 8 be in 16.04?!
[14:43] <mayhem> any ideas, anyone?
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> mayhem: unity7 will still be default
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> mayhem: but you can already test unity8 right now, see #ubuntu+1
[14:44] <k1l> mayhem: it will not be the standard. but you can try unity8 in a lxc container
[14:44] <mayhem> :lotuspsychje so I guess it'll come 2 versions - unity 7 and 8 ?
[14:44] <k1l> !unity8
[14:51] <ash_workz> can you tile windows on Ubuntu?
[14:53] <taavit15> Hi. I am using VPS and i have a program that needs to save encrypted key to external device (USB or Floppy). My question is how can I make so called reverse virtual device? So for instance i would save this info to self-created USB stick which is actually a folder
[14:53] <k1l> ash_workz: yes. just drag the window to the side or the corner
[14:53] <ash_workz> k1l: that's not actually what I meant by tiliing
[14:54] <k1l> ash_workz: ctrl+alt+numpad can place the window by shortcut.
[14:54] <ash_workz> this was what I was referring to: bit.ly/21vZyvL
[14:55] <k1l> ash_workz: unity can do 2x2 tiling (or 2x1)
[14:55] <loiiio> ciao
[14:55] <ash_workz> I see
[14:55] <ash_workz> is there a cascade feature?
[14:56] <ash_workz> like this? http://bit.ly/1VMWlku
[15:00] <loiiio> ciao
[15:00] <loiiio> !list
[15:06] <FunkyELF> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:06] <FunkyELF>  cuda : Depends: cuda-7-5 (= 7.5-18) but it is not going to be installed
[15:06] <FunkyELF> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[15:06] <FunkyELF> How can I fix this?
[15:07] <k1l> FunkyELF:" apt-cache policy  cuda  cuda-7-5 " in a pastebin please, like paste.ubuntu.com
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> FunkyELF  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/
[15:08] <FunkyELF> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15244218/
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> !find cuda
[15:09] <k1l> FunkyELF: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[15:09] <k1l> and what repo is that?
[15:09] <FunkyELF> k1l: I was trying to follow this:  https://github.com/jcjohnson/neural-style/blob/master/INSTALL.md
[15:09] <FunkyELF> k1l: I downloaded and ran "sudo dpkg -i cuda-repo-ubuntu1404-7-5-local_7.5-18_amd64.deb:
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> FunkyELF  what's the outcome of  cat /etc/issue
[15:12] <FunkyELF> MonkeyDust: Linux Mint 17.2 Rafaela
[15:12] <cfhowlett> !mint | FunkyELF
[15:17] <edlinde> after i have upgraded my packages etc it just seems that my mouse stopped working as well on ubuntu
[15:17] <edlinde> any fixes available for this?
[15:17] <edlinde> Its annoying coz sometimes it works and sometimes not and then I have to use the trackpad of my laptop to click on things :(
[15:17] <edlinde> would really appreciate it if any of you have a possible fix for this annoyance
[15:20] <edlinde> anyone?
[15:21] <ioria> edlinde, tail /var/log/apt/history.log
[15:23] <edlinde> http://pastebin.ca/3384918
[15:25] <edlinde> single-clicking with the mouse isn't working many at times.. I have to double click and sometimes it will work.. otherwise last resort is to click on the track pad
[15:25] <edlinde> ioria, any idea why this happens?
[15:26] <ioria> edlinde, uname -r is 4.2.0.30 ?
[15:27] <edlinde> 4.2.0-27-generic
[15:27] <ioria> edlinde, have you rebooted after the upgrade ?
[15:28] <edlinde> yeah
[15:28] <edlinde> ah not the recentmost
[15:28] <ioria> edlinde,  ls /boot
[15:28] <ioria> edlinde,  you installed linux-image-4.2.0-30-generic
[15:29] <edlinde> ah ok.. so should I now reboot?
[15:29] <ioria> edlinde, ls /boot  ?
[15:29] <edlinde> wondering if that fixes the mouse problem?
[15:29] <edlinde> ok will paste that
[15:29] <ioria> idk
[15:29] <edlinde> http://pastebin.ca/3384922
[15:30] <k1l> reboot to the latest kernel first to test
[15:30] <edlinde> this mouse business is seriously killing me
[15:30] <edlinde> ok will get back
[15:30] <ioria> edlinde, if you reboot, you'll have the 30 kern
[15:35] <edlinde> ioria, now I am on 30
[15:35] <ioria> edlinde, xsetpointer -l | grep Pointer
[15:37] <edlinde> http://pastebin.ca/3384927
[15:39] <ioria> edlinde, issue persists ?
[15:39] <edlinde> oh also I have trouble marking text with the mouse
[15:39] <edlinde> yes it does
[15:39] <ioria> edlinde, lsmod | grep usbhid
[15:40] <edlinde> usbhid                 49152  0
[15:40] <edlinde> hid                   118784  3 hid_generic,usbhid,hid_apple
[15:40] <mustu> hi, how can we list all the packages a repo has to offer?
[15:40] <ioria> edlinde, it'a a Mac ?
[15:40] <edlinde> no
[15:41] <edlinde> its a dell latitude
[15:41] <edlinde> with a mac keyboard
[15:41] <edlinde> but a normal usb mouse
[15:41] <edlinde> the keyboard is totally fine.. its just the mouse that is giving me headaches
[15:41] <ioria> yes
[15:41] <edlinde> wired optical mouse
[15:41] <ioria> edlinde, lsusb
[15:42] <edlinde> http://pastebin.ca/3384929
[15:42] <k1l> edlinde: does it work in guest account? or using another desktop?
[15:43] <edlinde> what? the mouse?
[15:43] <ioria> edlinde, try Guest Account,  maybe is X related
[15:43] <edlinde> it was working perfectly fine for me when I installed Ubuntu
[15:44] <k1l> yes. you do use some kde ppa.
[15:44] <k1l> so it could be an kde issue still.
[15:47] <edlinde> no luck
[15:47] <edlinde> even guest account has this problem
[15:48] <edlinde> yeah I have like a gnome3 thing installed on top but it worked fine all this while
[15:48] <ioria> edlinde, the mouse is directly connected to the laptop or you use an hub ?
[15:48] <edlinde> directly connected via usb
[15:48] <ioria> edlinde, change port ?
[15:48] <edlinde> tried already
[15:48] <edlinde> no luck
[15:49] <ioria> edlinde, is this Avago Technologies, Pte. or what ?
[15:50] <edlinde> it says "Advent" on the mouse
[15:51] <ioria> edlinde,  can you pull it out and run lsusb again ?
[15:52] <ioria> edlinde,  or run dmesg | tail
[15:53] <wonderworld> vlc started to segfault for me today. anyone else having problems?
[15:53] <edlinde> http://pastebin.ca/3384933
[15:54] <wonderworld> it's VLC media player 2.2.2 Weatherwax (revision 2.2.2-0-g6259d80)
[15:54] <ioria> edlinde,  yes, Avago
[15:55] <edlinde> ok
[15:55] <ioria> edlinde,  try to remove the module and reload it
[15:55] <edlinde> how do I do that?
[15:56] <edlinde> let it be.. I gtg now
[15:56] <ioria> edlinde,  sudo rmmod usbhid     sudo modprobe usbhid
[15:56] <ioria> ok
[15:56] <edlinde> thanks anyway
[15:57] <ioria> edlinde,  np, check your video driver, if you have a xorg.conf set, or stuff like ppa
[16:08] <NTQ> Hi. Is there a program that can keep track of all changes an other program makes to my system? For example a third party installer. I want to see what it does to my system directories.
[16:09] <popey> NTQ: rkhunter can, I think.
[16:09] <popey> NTQ: can take a 'snapshot' of the files on your system, and then you run it again and it tells you waht changed.
[16:10] <popey> NTQ: not sure it looks for every file though, so might not fit your exact circumstances
[16:10] <popey> NTQ: another option is to use "eatmydata" and run the installer through that, and see what it says it's going to do without it actually doing it
[16:11] <NTQ> popey: Thank you. I just thought about using chroot to trick the program into thinking it operates on the real root of my system.
[16:12] <ouroumov> NTQ, there's also a low-level linux function named ptrace(2) if you have the patience
[16:13] <ouroumov> NTQ, there's also the user command strace that will log every system call issued by a given program
[16:14] <popey> yeah, you could eatmydata and strace, to see what it's doing without doing it
[16:14] <popey> if you had an hour to burn :)
[16:15] <ouroumov> Oh there's also the inotify interface to watch filesystem changes NTQ
[16:15] <NTQ> Very cool tools. Thank you, guys. I will take a look at them.
[16:16] <vicente> does anyone know how to start playing a video using OMXplayer by providing the start point in hh:mm:ss ?
[16:16] <NTQ> I know about inotify. I often work with it.
[16:21] <Nilesh> when is the next LTS release?
[16:21] <Pici> Nilesh: April.
[16:21] <Jonii> Hello. I have a problem
[16:21] <Jonii> dmesg tells me "failed to start hw scan -108"
[16:21] <Nilesh> 0k, that will support till?
[16:22] <Pici> Nilesh: 2021
[16:22] <Nilesh> ok thanks :)
[16:22] <ash_workz> can you restore all windows from 1 application? (ie all terminals)
[16:23] <Jonii> This message comes from ath10k_pci, my wireless device is QCA6164 or something similar. I can't connect to many wifi-
[16:23] <ash_workz> and also, can you cycle through windows of just 1 application? Right now i have to hold ctrl, tab to the program, and wait for that program to expand into windows :(
[16:24] <Jonii> ash_workz: alt+tilde
[16:24] <Jonii> Or whatever you have above tab
[16:24] <Jonii> between tab and esc
[16:25] <ash_workz> Jonii: thanks!
[16:25] <ash_workz> is there a way to restore all windows from an app too?
[16:26] <ash_workz> I know holding down super shoes numbers on the apps
[16:26] <ash_workz> but pressing the associated number just launches the most recent window from that app
[16:27] <Jonii> double tap the number?
[16:27] <Jonii> It's not quite what you asked but pretty close
[16:28] <ioria> Jonii, have you seen this ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1436940
[16:29] <Jonii> ioria: yes
[16:30] <ash_workz> Jonii: what do you mean?
[16:30] <ash_workz> Jonii: oh
[16:30] <ash_workz> TAP
[16:30] <ash_workz> I read it as TAB
[16:31] <Jonii> ioria: kvalos thing worked kinda as well as it does now after I upgraded my kernel to 4.4 :p
[16:32] <ioria> Jonii, wow
[16:32] <Jonii> that is, it's weird and spotty, kinda works every now and then but has lotsa unstability
[16:32] <Jonii> I haven't tried both kvalos patch + 4.4 kernel
[16:33] <Jonii> I don't know how they would interact
[16:33] <ioria> Jonii, and this ? http://ath10k.infradead.narkive.com/CE43Al6D/patch-ath10k-fix-wmi-scan-command-length
[16:35] <Jonii> new to me. If I have understood correctly, this issue is that the ath10k_pci driver thing crashes if you try to connect low-strength 5ghz wlan
[16:45] <tappy> yo yo
[17:04] <heedly> I installed the texlive package and a plugin for latex in moin. It says it can't find latex though
[17:04] <UbuntuDude> how to apply the same command on ubuntu thunar to be able to opnen terminal here using F4? ... xfconfig-query -c xsettings -p /Gtk/CanChangeAccels -T
[17:07] <kermit1111> "Unable to locate package subversion"
[17:07] <ash_workz> ugh! I get so annoyed with this... HOW do you escape single quotes in egrep?!
[17:07] <kermit1111> can someone help me with this error?
[17:07] <EriC^^> !info subversion
[17:08] <ash_workz> erm
[17:08] <EriC^^> kermit1111: which ubuntu are you using?
[17:08] <ash_workz> and parens
[17:08] <k1l> kermit1111: what ubuntu are you on exactly?
[17:08] <kermit1111> kubuntu 14.10
[17:08] <ash_workz> egrep -rns 'define\([\'"]SOME_CONST\b'
[17:08] <k1l> kermit1111: 14.10 is dead. update to 15.04 and then to 15.10 asap
[17:09] <k1l> !eolupgrade | kermit1111
[17:09] <dannymichel> I notice a weird black line for less than half a millisecond on youtube videos in chrome. it just shows up randomly
[17:09] <kermit1111> !eolupgrade
[17:09] <k1l> kermit1111: and if you dont want to upgrade every 6 months better stay on LTS in the first place
[17:10] <kermit1111> ok, but this is all i have right now
[17:10] <kermit1111> i will not stay on this forever
[17:10] <kermit1111> i just installed it from a dvd becasue my pc is not working correctly
[17:11] <Nilesh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases is not accessing
[17:11] <k1l> kermit1111: than get a 14.04 or 15.10 dvd /usb and install that
[17:11] <moat_joe> Can I make apt-get wait on getting a lockfile rather than failing saying apt-get is already in use by another process?
[17:11] <k1l> kermit1111: 14.10 is dead since july 2015 and you have serious security issues and they are not going to be fixed.
[17:11] <EriC^^> kermit1111: are you able to get another dvd?
[17:12] <kermit1111> ok, can i upgrade? using the built in software update tool?
[17:12] <k1l> kermit1111: see the bots message
[17:12] <k1l> kermit1111: its faster if you get a 15.10 or 14.04 copy and do a fresh install, really
[17:13] <xangua> kermit1111: it will surely take more time than downloading and installing a supporting release
[17:13] <k1l> since 15.04 is dead too now you need to do 2 upgrades.
[17:13] <k1l> i mean, you dont install windows vista today and argue its not supported anymore....
[17:14] <kermit1111> k1l: ok, in that case i will have to download the latest and burn it to dvd
[17:15] <kermit1111> k1l: i will get tha latest ubuntu on dvd, and then come back here, so i'll be back
[17:16] <kermit1111> thanks so far!
[17:16] <k1l> kermit1111: alright
[17:19] <LazyAngel> Hi. while doing a apt-get install (interactive package) my ssh session timed out. I see the process is still running. Should I kill it?
[17:23] <jackwebs> so I think a machine crached out during do-release-upgrade
[17:23] <jackwebs> is there any way to resume or check the status of it?
[17:23] <jackwebs> machine is still on and working, reporting new version with lsb_release -a, but apt-get still acts like it's locked by another process
[17:26] <Squarism> Anyone able to get native notifications from chrome? If so, how do u set it up?
[17:26] <Squarism> displayed by NotifyOSD that is
[17:30] <anuj> Hey I am using basic terminal from ubuntu ctrl+alt+t and my mentor asked are you using bash? I am not sure what the answer is
[17:30] <fmntf> hi! i've tried to change timezone via timedatectl+tzdata reconfigure, but `date` still uses the wrong timezone. any hint? http://pastebin.com/jDYsjz0Q
[17:31] <EriC^^> anuj: type echo $SHELL
[17:33] <downlwil> How do i download all pdf files from a website?
[17:34] <xangua> downlwil: that's a really vague question
[17:35] <downlwil> Is there a software for cralwling a website for pdf files?
[17:36] <paulymorphous> Hello. I can't seem to delete old kernels from Synaptic. Is anyone able to help me with this?
[17:37] <NightStrike> how do I use do-release-upgrade to upgrade in place from 08.04LTS to 10.04LTS?
[17:39] <delt> Hello
[17:40] <delt> i'm having trouble connecting my cell phone's audio via bluetooth to the pc
[17:40] <delt> i get: Connection Failed: Stream setup failed
[17:40] <delt> i can transfer files via bluetooth fine
[17:40] <xangua> NightStrike: even upgrading from LTS to LTS, would be faster to just install a supported release
[17:41] <NightStrike> I don't have access to the computer
[17:41] <SchrodingersScat> then how were you going to run that command?
[17:42] <NightStrike> physical access
[17:42] <NightStrike> in any case, do-release-upgrade seems to not work
[17:42] <NightStrike> it tries to download 12.04 instead of 10.04
[17:43] <LTNT> hello
[17:43] <SchrodingersScat> howdy
[17:44] <NightStrike> how do I tell do-release-upgrade to download 10.04?
[17:44] <LTNT> hi @SchrodingersScat
[17:44] <nacc> NightStrike: neither of those are supported anymore
[17:45] <LTNT> Can someone please tell me how can i create a webapp like codeacademy ?
[17:45] <delt> ... so anyone familiar with this bluetooth audio problem?
[17:46] <NightStrike> how do I tell do-release-upgrade to download 10.04?
[17:47] <nacc> NightStrike: i don't believe the tools will let you upgrade to things that are not supported ... why would you want to be on 10.04?
[17:48] <NightStrike> That's what this page says to do: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes#From_8.04_LTS_to_10.04_LTS
[17:48] <NightStrike> and, it's what that page says is supported
[17:48] <NightStrike> 8 > 10 > 12
[17:49] <nacc> NightStrike: "Version: 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) (Will no longer be supported after May 9th 2013)"
[17:49] <NightStrike> I am aware that 10 is out of support
[17:49] <zykotick9> NightStrike: if you are currently at 8.04 i'd _strongly_ suggest you backup your files and install fresh  YMMV
[17:49] <NightStrike> I'm trying to upgrade 8 to 10 to 12.  The do-release-upgrade won't download the changes for 10, however.
[17:50] <NightStrike> can you at least tell me what do-release-upgrade does so that I can do it manually?
[17:50] <nacc> NightStrike: I don't think there is a supported path for that, 8.04 has been EOL for years at this point. I believe the tooling will always try to go to the nearest LTS that is supported
[17:50] <NightStrike> or tell me where I can get the older lucid tarball that it would have downloaded?
[17:51] <ioria> ioria21972
[17:55] <NightStrike> I found it.  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/lucid.tar.gz
[17:56] <finisherr> What are folks doing regarding the glibc vulnerability in 10.04 systems?
[17:57] <baizon> finisherr: 10.04 is EOL, so nothing i guess
[17:57] <xangua> finisherr: nothing
[17:57] <finisherr> FIgured. Ok
[17:58] <baizon> finisherr: i mean its EOL fir almost a year now, so i would recommend to upgrade
[17:58] <afrokarlsson> living silver is siamease polarbear blood
[17:58] <teward> finisherr: 10.04 is EOL, so it never got looked at or fixed.  Upgrade to 12.04 or newer.
[17:58] <finisherr> This is what I suspected
[17:58] <finisherr> Just making sure
[17:59] <teward> finisherr: refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for a list of what releases are 'current'
[17:59] <teward> and refer to there regularly for EOL release dates/items.
[18:03] <someboy> Hi
[18:04] <someboy> are these steps good enough for encryption https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0788dd86af09c73bf70a
[18:14] <Emersont1> hey
[18:15] <lerner> there is a directory full of directories. All of them have a common name: "decede". How do I rename all subdirectories and delete that part?
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> lerner: rename 's/decede//' * #?
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> oh, subdirectories...
[18:19] <Guest71094> I've built a small openstack cloud using ubuntu autopilot and everything succedded fine and I have a starter project, but I lack the openstack admin credentials.  I don't believe i missed setting something, is there a default login that I'm overlooking?  Sorry if there is a more specific ubuntu/openstack channel.
[18:20] <delt> is there any replacement for blueman that will support audio correctly?
[18:20] <Guest71094> I have the account created during the autopilot install but it only allows me to administer the project it creates, not the actual openstack dashboard
[18:26] <delt> [pts/14][user@phobos]:~$ pactl load-module pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
[18:26] <delt> Failure: Module initialization failed
[18:27] <user54541210> hellow guys, does someone know how to make that all the programs and the display of my windows stay, even after turning of my pc with Ubuntu 15.1?
[18:30] <delt> user54541210: suspend or hibernate mode?
[18:33] <arash> !openvpn
[18:34] <user54541210> delt: I dont have any problem when suspending or hibernating my laptop. The thing is that when I turn off my laptop, I loose all the positions of the windows of my programs. Like I have to start all over again, and start moving and reordering everything, so its comfortable for working
[18:34] <dionysus69> inserting sleep into .profile delays login itself. How do I run something late but not delay the login at the same time ?
[18:36] <Tin_man> user54541210, probably have to write a script and that would be a pretty long on, might have a keystroke recorder type program that would record your methods when you rearange everything
[18:36] <jackwebs> I just upgraded to 14.04 and I've lost all sound, where do I start?
[18:37] <user54541210> Tin_man: do you know any script out there that does this?
[18:38] <pavlushka> jackwebs: alsa
[18:38] <jackwebs> alsa what?
[18:38] <jackwebs> reinstall?
[18:39] <delt> !bluetooth
[18:39] <pavlushka> jackwebs: you can run dpkg-reconfigure or purge & reinstall for alsa
[18:39] <squinty> !alsamixer
[18:39] <jackwebs> ok
[18:40] <jackwebs> I'll try that
[18:40] <pavlushka> jackwebs: you can test the gui hardware testing
[18:40] <delt> that bluetooth setup guide is way outdated
[18:40] <jackwebs> pavlushka, what?
[18:41] <delt> anyone have an idea why i get this? --
[18:41] <delt> [pts/0][user@phobos]:~$ pactl load-module pulseaudio-module-bluetooth
[18:41] <delt> Failure: Module initialization failed
[18:42] <pavlushka> jackwebs: you can test the gui hardware testing tools, its pre-installed
[18:43] <jackwebs> how do I do that pavlushka ?
[18:45] <pavlushka> jackwebs: Its called system testing, type in the dashboard and you'll see.
[18:46] <jackwebs> dashboard pavlushka ?
[18:47] <jackwebs> pavlushka, if you mean the unity dash, I'm in lubuntu, lxde
[18:47] <jackwebs> so I don't have that
[18:47] <jackwebs> in mixer it only shows pulseaudio dummy output
[18:48] <mas886> How can I configure hot corners in gnome?
[18:48] <jackwebs> seems the only output device I have is "dummy output"
[18:49] <delt> ...so, what do you guys recommend for bluetooth instead of blueman?
[18:50] <Callek> sooo I have an issue where my mouse cursor dissapears (the mouse pointer still works, I can still see hovered tooltips and selection-hover, etc -- clicks still work)
[18:50] <Callek> It seems to happen more often when I have a flash website open, sometimes even more so when I use fullscreen with flash
[18:50] <Callek> My only remedy I've found so far is reboot, but I'm open to a command-line fix
[18:50] <Callek> (or something to search for in syslog)
[18:50] <Callek> I'm on 15.10
[18:51] <Callek> using Firefox as browser
[18:51]  * Callek awaits any ideas ;-)
[18:51]  * Callek has already restarted since last instance, fwiw
[18:51] <dracnoc> Callek: Are you using a compositor/opengl? I get the same issue unless I turn off desktop effects, then the mouse pointer behaves normally
[18:52] <ouroumov_> LazyAngel, dunno but in the future you wanna run this type of commands in tmux or screen.
[18:52] <Callek> I think so, but not certain
[18:53] <ouroumov_> Oh sorry LazyAngel: scroll snafu on my part
[18:53]  * Callek is relatively new to using linux as a desktop, used to primarily only use it as a remote server :-)
[18:54] <LazyAngel> ouroumov_: no worries, I have noe added keepalive on my ssh session and nothing broke. a reboot and reinstall of the package worked
[18:54] <jackwebs> I think in the past I had to remove pulseaudio to get sound to work, is that still an option in 14.04?
[18:55] <jackwebs> I hope someone can help me with this, I'm totally lost :(
[18:56] <dracnoc> Callek: If you can, switch off your desktop compositor/effects and see if that helps. It might be a driver bug, I'm not certain but it's always been apparent when running the nVidia blob drivers.
[18:56] <Callek> dracnoc: I know for sure I don't have an nVidia card
[18:56] <Callek> it would be an intel integrated graphics
[18:57] <Callek> dracnoc: but further questions -- does disabling desktop compositor/effects re-instate the cursor, even after it has dissapeared? and is it possible to disable via command line (easily?) ;-)
[18:57]  * Callek would have been happy with a `service foo restart` if it didn't cause any active programs/desktop to close ;-)
[18:58] <viju> How do I remove wine?
[18:58] <viju> Although I used, sudo apt-get remove wine, it's still tehre
[18:58] <viju> there*
[18:58] <delt> jackwebs: you can get jack and pulse to play nice together: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Digital_Music_Composition/Making_Sound#Making_Sound_On_Linux
[18:58] <jackwebs> delt, I've got no sound at all
[18:58] <dracnoc> Callek: Hmmm ... the only thing to do is try it. I'm not sure if it is even possible to switch of the compositor with a Unity desktop, but it's certainly possible in other environments such as XFCE and KDE
[18:59] <jackwebs> delt, what is jack?
[18:59] <jackwebs> I don't think I need it, I just need some sound
[18:59] <delt> jackwebs: what sound card?
[18:59] <Callek> dracnoc: yea, I have default-15.10 desktop, which iirc is unity
[18:59] <delt> jackwebs: also is pulseaudio running? what program(s) fail to output sound?
[18:59] <jackwebs> delt, how can I tell?
[19:00] <jackwebs> everything fails to output sound
[19:00] <jackwebs> clementine, at the moment
[19:00] <delt> ok, can you do: ps xau | grep pulseaudio
[19:00] <delt> in the output you should see a line like: user      2146  2.2  0.5 1149036 22200 ?       SLl  13:48   0:15 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
[19:00] <jackwebs> yah it's running
[19:01] <delt> ok, now if you play a youtube video in your browser you don't get sound?
[19:01] <dracnoc> Callek: I did find one reference to switching off desktop effects, but it comes with warnings. Read first and test at your own peril :)
[19:01] <jackwebs> idk I don't think I have flash installed delt
[19:01] <dracnoc> Callek: http://askubuntu.com/questions/689602/disable-all-visual-effects-in-ubuntu-15-10
[19:01] <delt> or anything that uses pulse
[19:02] <jackwebs> I'll try youtube delt gimme a sec
[19:02] <jackwebs> yeah it's silent
[19:02] <delt> jackwebs: what about the output routing in the volume control (pavucontrol)?
[19:02] <jackwebs> delt, in the volume control it only shows dummy output
[19:02] <jackwebs> no other devices
[19:03] <jackwebs> i dunno what output routing is though
[19:03] <jackwebs> it says nothing aout that
[19:03] <delt> while the youtube video or whatever is playing, run pavucontrol, what do you see under "playback"?
[19:03] <jackwebs> chromium playback
[19:03] <jackwebs> it's moving, like there's sound
[19:03] <jackwebs> but I guess it's all just going to dummy output device
[19:03] <delt> ok, there should be a drop-down menu to select which output device
[19:04] <delt> does it show only dummy output?
[19:04] <jackwebs> yah, under output devices
[19:04] <jackwebs> yah only shows dummy
[19:04] <jackwebs> no wait, there's "hardware output devices" i can select, and if I do, it says there are none
[19:04] <delt> ok... in a terminal can you try "alsamixer" and see if it detects any sound cards?
[19:05] <jackwebs> "cannot open mixer, no such file or directory"
[19:05] <jackwebs> weird
[19:05] <delt> in alsamixer press F6 to select sound card, it will show you what alsa sees as available output device
[19:05] <jackwebs> alsamixer worked ( and sound worked) before upgrade to 14.04, from 12.04
[19:05] <jackwebs> but I think I had pulseaudio removed
[19:05] <jackwebs> I think
[19:06] <delt> jackwebs: lspci | grep -i audio
[19:06] <jackwebs> delt, 00:08.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 High Definition Audio (rev b1)
[19:07] <delt> jackwebs: is that your sound card? seems like the hdmi output on your graphics card
[19:08] <jackwebs> delt, nooo idea
[19:08] <jackwebs> it's prob a built in sound
[19:08] <jackwebs> but there is nvidia hdmi too, so
[19:08] <delt> jackwebs: lsmod | grep -e snd -e sound
[19:08] <mas886> How can I configure hot corners in gnome?
[19:09] <jackwebs> !paste
[19:09] <jackwebs> delt https://paste.ubuntu.com/15246106/
[19:10] <delt> snd_hda_intel seems like your onboard sound card, weird that alsa doesn't find it
[19:10] <jackwebs> definitely. it was working before upgrade like I said
[19:11] <jackwebs> any idea what I could try
[19:11] <delt> jackwebs: lspci doesn't show a line something like: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
[19:11] <jackwebs> ?
[19:11] <delt> jackwebs: try booting a live-cd from another distro and see if sound works
[19:11] <delt> jackwebs: say linux mint or so
[19:11] <jackwebs> delt, the only thing that is not NVidia is the Ethernet controller
[19:11] <jackwebs> and there's no CD drive on this machine
[19:12] <jackwebs> I'm not sure I have a spare usb either at the mo :\
[19:12] <jackwebs> and I don't really want to have to install another distro if i can help it
[19:12] <jackwebs> this audio was working like a couple hours ago with 12.04
[19:13] <delt> jackwebs: i'd test to see if the sound hardware works from a live-cd... no need to install, just boot the live-cd, and play some sound
[19:13] <dracnoc> jackwebs: just out of curiosity ... install SMPlayer. It allows you to play a video and send the audio to any recognized audio hardware via the menu. Pick a vid and see what audio channels work for you. It's helpful in finding what audio channels are actually working
[19:13] <jackwebs> ok dracnoc I'll try that
[19:13] <jackwebs> delt, liveCD not really an option any time soon
[19:13] <delt> jackwebs: live-usb then =)
[19:13] <delt> jackwebs: perhaps the same you used to install?
[19:13] <jackwebs> well, liveCD never an option, live usb no time soon delt
[19:14] <jackwebs> this machine's had Ubuntu on it for 5 years delt..
[19:14] <delt> ok... so, hmmm....
[19:15] <delt> jackwebs: can you try booting a different kernel from the grub bootup menu?
[19:15] <alkisg> For people that will want to upgrade from 12.04 to 16.04, will it be necessary to upgrade to 14.04 first, or is it OK if they just edit sources.list and jump straight to 16.04?
[19:15] <jackwebs> ummm I'll have a look delt
[19:15] <mcphail> alkisg: 12.04 -> 14.04 -> 16.04, as far as I know
[19:15] <jackwebs> what if it doesn't list any other kernels? is there a way?
[19:15] <delt> check in /boot
[19:16] <alkisg> mcphail: thanks, meh I'm guessing that will take 10 hours :D
[19:16] <jackwebs> ok I got some options delt
[19:16] <jackwebs> 3.2.0.64 is the default, I also have 3.2.0.60
[19:16] <jackwebs> 32 , 14 and 12
[19:16] <mcphail> alkisg: and I don't think you can upgrade to 16.04 until 16.04.1 is released
[19:16] <jackwebs> any preferences delt?
[19:16] <delt> try the earliest :D
[19:16] <jackwebs> 3.2.0.12 it is
[19:16] <alkisg> mcphail: whoops, I haven't heard that before, thanks, checking...
[19:17] <jackwebs> alsamixer still doesn't work from cli..
[19:17] <jackwebs> waiting for gui to boot
[19:19] <jackwebs> still no sound delt
[19:19] <jackwebs> although now my graphics are buggered too
[19:19] <jackwebs> so.. progress
[19:21] <delt> jackwebs: sound stopped working when you updated to 14.04?
[19:21] <kvaidyan> .net
[19:22] <jackwebs> delt,  that's right
[19:23] <jackwebs> dracnoc, SMPlayer doesn't seem to be working either
[19:23] <delt> yeah you'd really need to find a spare usb stick... even just a 1gb to test booting with a live image
[19:24] <jackwebs> well even if I do what am I gonna do next delt?
[19:25] <jackwebs> is there nothing else I can try?
[19:25] <jackwebs> I got a lot of work to do and I just wanted to stick some music on in the meantime :)
[19:25] <delt> jackwebs: at least you'll know if it's a hardware problem
[19:25] <dracnoc> jackwebs: Damn ... is it giving any reasons why not?
[19:26] <jackwebs> delt, it's not going to be a hardware problem..
[19:26] <jackwebs> dracnoc, just no noise..
[19:26] <dracnoc> jackwebs: But is it playing the video?
[19:26] <jackwebs> dracnoc, I tried it with an audio file
[19:26] <jackwebs> so no
[19:26] <jackwebs> I can maybe try a video
[19:27] <delt> jackwebs: it's been too long since i futzed around with kernel audio drivers... so i can't be of much more assistance sadly :(
[19:27] <jackwebs> OK well thanks for trying delt
[19:27] <delt> jackwebs: oh, what does "aplay -l" show?
[19:28] <delt> can you pastebin the output of that?
[19:28] <jackwebs> no soundcards found :(
[19:28] <jackwebs> that's probably not a good sign huh
[19:28] <delt> well, now we know it's not an issue with pulseaudio or jack
[19:28] <jackwebs> idk what jack is
[19:29] <delt> jackwebs: find /dev | grep -e snd -e pcm
[19:29] <alkisg> jackwebs: what's the output of this command? du -sh /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
[19:29] <jackwebs>  https://paste.ubuntu.com/15246294/ delt
[19:29] <knee4> Just tried to reinstall ubuntu, install was succuessful  but it is not shoming up on the boot menu or bios
[19:30] <jackwebs> alkisg, 121M	/lib/modules/3.2.0-99-generic
[19:30] <delt> jackwebs: looks like the kernel only sees the hdmi on your graphics card
[19:30] <jackwebs> delt, even that's not making sound tho
[19:30] <alkisg> jackwebs: you have 3.2 kernel in 14.04?
[19:30] <jackwebs> alkisg, I guess?
[19:30] <jackwebs> idk
[19:30] <knee4> Just tried to reinstall ubuntu, install was succuessful  but it is not showing up on the boot menu or bios
[19:30] <alkisg> You should have 3.13 at least
[19:30] <delt> jackwebs: oh, reboot to your normal kernel =)
[19:30] <alkisg> jackwebs: ls /boot/vmlinuz*, which kernels are there?
[19:30] <jackwebs> delt, I did
[19:30] <jackwebs> I think
[19:30] <delt> alkisg: sorry my fault... i recommended to try an earlier kernel
[19:30] <alkisg> Ah
[19:31] <delt> jackwebs: did you reboot after testing the other kernel?
[19:31] <jackwebs> no delt , alkisg , this is my latest kernel
[19:31] <knee4> Just tried to reinstall ubuntu, install was succuessful  but it is not showing up on the boot menu or bios
[19:31] <jackwebs> I rebooted back to the latest again
[19:31] <delt> ok
[19:31] <nacc_> knee4: please just ask once and wait for a response
[19:31] <delt> jackwebs: what does uname -a say?
[19:31] <knee4> sorry
[19:32] <jackwebs> delt, alkisg Linux htpc 3.2.0-99-generic #139-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 1 23:16:38 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:32] <delt> jackwebs: and ls /lib/modules | grep 3.2
[19:32] <alkisg> jackwebs: did I correctly understand that this is 14.04?
[19:32] <jackwebs> alkisg, you did
[19:32] <alkisg> jackwebs, then you have the wrong kernel
[19:32] <jackwebs> maybe something went wrong during the update
[19:33] <alkisg> sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[19:33] <delt> ^ what alkisg said
[19:33] <jackwebs> ok
[19:33] <jackwebs> maybe there's other stuff didn't update properly too?
[19:33] <delt> jackwebs: just curious, do you have a dir named 3.2.0-99-generic in /lib/modules ?
[19:34] <delt> ls /lib/modules | grep 3.2.0
[19:34] <alkisg> He said he does, so the package from 12.04 stayed installed
[19:34] <delt> ok
[19:34] <alkisg> 110mb in size
[19:34] <jackwebs> yeah
[19:34] <jackwebs> that's all correct what you just said
[19:35] <alkisg> jackwebs: (do the kernel installation), how did you upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04?
[19:35] <blndidiot> Hey- I did apt-get upgrade and one of the package updates is asking that I choose a character encoding format.  I'm not sure which one to choose.  How do I decide? Here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/VX9tRJm.png
[19:36] <alkisg> blndidiot: press enter in all questions, it will keep your current settings
[19:36] <AciD`> blndidiot > utf-8, always utf-8
[19:36] <jackwebs> alkisg, kernel update is running, I did do-release-upgrade
[19:36] <delt> blink: UTF-8
[19:36] <AciD`> or what alkisg said
[19:36] <delt> blndidiot: UTF-8
[19:36] <alkisg> If you need to change it in the future, it's dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[19:37] <blndidiot> alkisg: Well, right before this screen popped up.. I got some perl warnings about language being unset so I wasn't sure if this was related
[19:37] <blndidiot> I'll go with UTF-8 thanks
[19:37] <delt> alkisg: for bluetooth stuff, what do you recommend to use as an alternative to blueman?
[19:37] <alkisg> blndidiot: what's your locale/lang?
[19:37] <alkisg> delt, no idea, sorry :)
[19:37] <blndidiot> I always use en-us for everything
[19:37] <delt> ok thanks anyway
[19:38] <kermit_> is flashrom in the repository of ubuntu?
[19:38] <delt> blndidiot: then utf-8 will be fine
[19:38] <blndidiot> thanks guys
[19:38] <x03> Hello, my computer won't shut down when told to, it just locks up.
[19:38] <AciD`> blndidiot > ok, then try to use that name in a folder/cmd : 'touché'
[19:38] <AciD`> :/
[19:39] <AciD`> x03 > `dmesg`
[19:40] <x03> http://pastebin.com/aVMByF63
[19:40] <jackwebs> soo rebooting with new kernel delt alkisg , hoping this will just work?
[19:40] <alkisg> jackwebs: yup
[19:40] <delt> jackwebs: probably
[19:40] <alkisg> (hoping)
[19:40] <jackwebs> alsamixer still dont work
[19:41] <alkisg> You're with the new kernel now?
[19:41] <AciD`> x03 > with newlines plz..
[19:41] <delt> jackwebs: type uname -a to make sure
[19:41] <x03> Excuse me; how?
[19:41] <AciD`> your paste is unreadable :(
[19:41] <x03> I'm not sure what exactly I'm able to do about it.
[19:41] <jackwebs> delt, alkisg uname -a showing 3.13 now
[19:42] <delt> jackwebs: lsmod | grep snd
[19:42] <jackwebs> but problem is as before
[19:42] <delt> jackwebs: and find /dev | grep -e snd -e pcm
[19:42] <jackwebs> delt https://paste.ubuntu.com/15246409/
[19:42] <jackwebs> and
[19:42] <alkisg> jackwebs: and, you didn't answer how did you upgrade.... from the gui? with some commands?
[19:43] <jackwebs> delt https://paste.ubuntu.com/15246417/
[19:43] <jackwebs> I did alkisg , I did do-release-upgrade
[19:43] <alkisg> jackwebs: ok, now, does aplay -l list anything?
[19:43] <alkisg> (sudo aplay -l, maybe)
[19:43] <jackwebs> alkisg,  no
[19:44] <jackwebs> oh, sudo does
[19:44] <delt> jackwebs: find /dev | grep -e snd -e pcm
[19:44] <jackwebs> with sudo it has three things
[19:44] <alkisg> and sudo aplay /bin/ls
[19:44] <jackwebs> delt I sent you that
[19:44] <alkisg> does that make a strange noice?
[19:44] <jackwebs> yes it does alkisg
[19:44] <jackwebs> really loudly
[19:44] <delt> oh yeah sorry
[19:44] <jackwebs> thx
[19:44] <jackwebs> lol
[19:44] <alkisg> Haha
[19:44] <alkisg> :D
[19:45] <jackwebs> you have nearly killed my cat, problem remains
[19:45] <delt> jackwebs: probably user/group permissions
[19:45] <alkisg> Or default soundcard issues
[19:45] <jackwebs> sooo..
[19:45] <delt> alkisg: he said pavucontrol showed no output devices other than dummy
[19:45] <jackwebs> pavucontrol still shows nothing
[19:45] <jackwebs> just dummy
[19:46] <delt> jackwebs: ls -l /dev/snd; groups
[19:46] <alkisg> jackwebs: is there any reason to suspect that you have uninstalled pulseaudio or any other significant parts of the sound subsystem?
[19:46] <jackwebs> alkisg, I did, and reinstalled it
[19:46] <jackwebs> trying to fix this
[19:46] <jackwebs> but it could be that something failed in the upgrade
[19:46] <alkisg> Is ubuntu-desktop installed now? dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop
[19:46] <jackwebs> delt, you want the output of that?
[19:47] <delt> jackwebs: yeah if you can
[19:47] <jackwebs> alkisg, no it's not
[19:47] <alkisg> Install it, you're missing things
[19:47] <delt> "groups" and "ls -l /dev/snd"
[19:47] <alkisg> When you uninstall pulseaudio, it removes ubutnu-desktop and a lot of other things
[19:47] <jackwebs> alkisg, lubuntu-desktop still exist? can I install that instead?
[19:47] <alkisg> If you reinstall pulseaudio, it doesn't reinstall those things
[19:48] <alkisg> Yup, you should be able to use that instead
[19:48] <jackwebs> delt groups: jack adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare debian-transmission nopasswdlogin
[19:48] <delt> jackwebs: what about /dev/snd?
[19:48] <jackwebs> delt https://paste.ubuntu.com/15246459/
[19:49] <alkisg> delt, I believe he should have sound access via pulse even if he's not in any group at all
[19:49] <jackwebs> OK installing lubuntu desktop
[19:49] <delt> jackwebs: you're not part of the 'audio' group
[19:49] <alkisg> delt, the audio group is for *direct* sound access
[19:49] <alkisg> Ie. not via pulse
[19:49] <alkisg> I don't think he's supposed to be in the audio group
[19:49] <delt> alkisg: ok... sorry my mistake
[19:49] <llutz> delt: there is no need for users to be in audio-group
[19:50] <delt> you need to be if you want to run jack or direct access to alsa devices afaik
[19:50] <alkisg> Sure, for direct access yeah, but not for normal audio in a lubuntu/pulseaudio session...
[19:50] <delt> but yeah everything uses pulse nowadays so =)
[19:51] <jackwebs> I've added myself to audio group anyway
[19:51] <jackwebs> cos why not
[19:51] <delt> jackwebs: it certainly can't hurt
[19:51] <alkisg> jackwebs: because you might break pulse access
[19:51] <delt> alkisg: really?
[19:51] <jackwebs> alkisg, I think I already did
[19:51] <jackwebs> lol
[19:51] <alkisg> Some devices need serialized access, cooperated
[19:51] <jackwebs> if I get it working, I'll try removing myself
[19:51] <delt> alkisg: i'm part of audio on both my mint systems and have no problems with audio
[19:52] <jackwebs> sooo reboot after lubuntu desktop is installed?
[19:52] <alkisg> I don't know if snd is one of them, at some point in the past one could use only pulse OR direct alsa, not both of them, now both of them can be used in parallel
[19:52] <delt> even running pulse as a jack client
[19:52] <alkisg> jackwebs, yup
[19:52] <jackwebs> k nearly done
[19:52] <jackwebs> I think
[19:52] <delt> alkisg: dunno, in those days i was still using my SB live, which supported multiple hardware channels =)
[19:53] <alkisg> hardware channels != software reentrancy
[19:53] <delt> yeah i think that's why they dropped it
[19:54] <jackwebs> whoah ok now my grub has a background
[19:54] <delt> because of some state-per-channel shenanigans, like you mentioned reentrancy problems
[19:54] <alkisg> jackwebs: when you apt-get remove pulseaudio, and it says it'll remove 100 packages, DO think before pressing OK :D
[19:54] <delt> haha indeed :D
[19:55] <jackwebs> I did, I though "wow that'll save a lot of disk space"
[19:55] <alkisg> Hahaha
[19:55] <kermit_> can someone help me compare two files? please?
[19:55] <delt> kermit_: diff
[19:55] <alkisg> diff file1 file2, or meld for graphical
[19:55] <delt> kermit_: diff <file1> <file2>
[19:55] <jackwebs> OK so on boot I'm getting "system program problem detected"
[19:55] <delt> jackwebs: if you press details what does it say?
[19:56] <jackwebs> delt, no details button
[19:56] <jackwebs> "OK" or "report problems"
[19:56] <jackwebs> I have an audio device!
[19:56] <jackwebs> and I have sound! woo!
[19:56] <alkisg> jackwebs: sudo rm /var/crash/*, and only bother with it if it shows up again (you might have that because of all the mess you did)
[19:56] <jackwebs> cheers alkisg, I can live with an error message, sound works
[19:56] <alkisg> :)
[19:57] <jackwebs> if it starts bothering me I'll apt-get remove some more stuff
[19:57] <jackwebs> ;)
[19:57] <alkisg> The error message could be from the past, and you did not see it because apport was missing too :D
[19:57] <alkisg> (the package that reports the errors)
[19:57] <jackwebs> k now I gotta peel that cat off the ceiling
[19:57] <bray90820> What is the best smart test tool on ubuntu
[19:57] <bekks> bray90820: the only one existing perhaps. smartctl.
[19:58] <bray90820> There is a smart test in disk utility
[19:58] <bekks> bray90820: Which is using smartctl.
[19:58] <bray90820> Well then I'm all set
[19:58] <wmp> hello, i have encrypted home direcotry. I want to mount this on second system, how can i get parameters to mount? I trying mount manual, but i have only encrypted files names
[19:59] <bekks> !ecryptfs
[19:59] <bekks> hmm.
[19:59] <bekks> wmp: you need to decrypt and mount, which is described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/ecryptfs.html
[20:01] <kermit_> delt:thanks!
[20:01] <kermit_> why does "diff backup.bin backup_copy.bin" not produce any output?
[20:01] <kermit_> is that normal if the files are the same?
[20:01] <bekks> Because diff is for textual input only, not for binary files.
[20:02] <krobzaur> hello all! I just discovered that upgrading my ubuntu 14.04 installation to a new kernel broke my ability to boot. I booted into an older kernel version and the problem disappeared. How should I handle this situation? I can elaborate on the errors I'm getting if anyone is interested
[20:02] <bekks> You need to use a binary diff tool for creating a diff of binary input.
[20:02] <wmp> bekks: how can i get details about cipher and other?
[20:02] <delt> kermit_: no output from diff means the files are identical
[20:02] <bekks> wmp: usingg ecrytfs, you dont choose all that.
[20:02] <delt> kermit_: if you compare binary files, you'll just get a line like "files differ"
[20:02] <wmp> ok
[20:03] <A11en> Hi :D I need to know how to upgrade Ubuntu from 10 to what ever is supported :( any help ?
[20:03] <x03> Hello, I can't move my mouse pointer unless I click first.
[20:03] <kermit_> ah, that figures
[20:03] <bekks> !eolupgrade | A11en
[20:03] <kermit_> i did get "lines differ" for two of the files
[20:03] <kermit_> i was intentionally trying to make a copy of one of them to see what i get
[20:03] <kermit_> when i compare them
[20:04] <kermit_> bekks: it looks like you're wrong then?
[20:04] <bekks> kermit_: No. Use diff on two text files, and see the difference.
[20:04] <Pici> iirc, there is a flag for diff to allow binary diffs, I'm not sure what the output looks like
[20:05] <x03> Gys? This is really annoying.
[20:05] <bekks> kermit_: this article gives you a few ideas on how to compare binary files: http://superuser.com/questions/125376/how-do-i-compare-binary-files-in-linux
[20:07] <x03> Why do I have to click my mouse before I can move the pointer?
[20:08] <x03> I mean it goes to sleep.
[20:08] <mustu> hi can apt list all the available packages form a specific repo?
[20:10] <delt> x03: you mean each time you move it?
[20:10] <delt> x03: or it just moves while the button is pressed?
[20:10] <ioria> !info dhex
[20:11] <bekks> mustu: By browsing to the repo, in your browser.
[20:11] <kermit_> bekks: i think i understand what you mean
[20:11] <mustu> bekks they don't allow browsing through a web browser
[20:11] <bekks> mustu: Really? Isnt it a http repo?
[20:11] <kermit_> so cmp is fo binary and diff is for textual?
[20:12] <mustu> bekks yes that's http but they say they've disabled that.. it throws an XML error response
[20:12] <mustu> bekks http://packages.elastic.co/elasticsearch/2.x/debian
[20:14] <bekks> mustu: https://www.elastic.co/downloads/elasticsearch/ -- there you can see the available downloads.
[20:15] <trunk_monkey> mustu: grep ^Package: /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_*_Packages
[20:16] <trunk_monkey> mustu: grep ^Package: /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_*_Packages | more - easier to view
[20:16] <wmpp> bekks: unfrtunatelly, i cannot mount my home directory
[20:16] <bekks> wmpp: Why not?
[20:17] <bekks> wmpp: Did you decrypt it?
[20:17] <wmpp> bekks: i copy mount parameters from my ubuntu and i have error and encrypted files
[20:17] <bekks> wmpp: So you did not decrypt it, as the article told you to do.
[20:17] <wmpp> when i trying to mount without extra options, my FNEK is other that on normal system
[20:18] <wmpp> bekks: yes, becouse this dont works
[20:18] <bekks> wmpp: Because what doesnt work?
[20:18] <wmpp> when i put fnek from my normal system, i have error about file not found
[20:18] <bekks> wmpp: Forget mounting until you decrypt it.
[20:18] <wmpp> bekks: i have mounted partition as ext4
[20:19] <wmpp> bekks: now i trying to mount /mnt/home/.ecryptfs/wmp/.Private/ to /mnt/home/wmp_no_encrypt/
[20:19] <bekks> wmpp: Decrypt it.
[20:19] <wmpp> mount -t encryptfs asks me for ciphers and other...
[20:19] <kermit_> can someone tell me how users are able to write reviews and rate apps in software center when the softwre is not coming from software center?
[20:20] <wmpp> bekks: to decrypt: mount -t encryptfs /mnt/home/.ecryptfs/wmp/.Private/ /mnt/home/wmp_no_encrypt/ ?
[20:20] <bekks> wmpp: No. Since thats for a different usecase as the article clearly states.
[20:20] <bekks> wmpp: Maybe this is what you are looking for: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[20:23] <wmpp> bekks: this method: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering_Your_Data_Manually dont works, return me crypted files...
[20:23] <bekks> wmpp: Why wont it work?
[20:23] <bekks> wmpp: What exactly happens, when doing what exactly?
[20:24] <aegis> Do I have to ask to ask a question?
[20:24] <bekks> aegis: No you dont.
[20:24] <aegis> Cool.
[20:25] <wmpp> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15246744/
[20:30] <o19946023> Hello!
[20:36] <ed_1> help please, wifi card lost after reboot or standby, only returns after battery out-5 mins. heres all the logs etc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15216474/
[20:39] <vooze> ed_1: try updating your bios?
[20:40] <Dr-008> good evening. question; i installed ubuntu via a DVD but screwed up the grub2 install. i now cant boot from disk anymore either to try to reinstall
[20:40] <Dr-008> and i cant boot into ubuntu either
[20:40] <Dr-008> only to windows
[20:40] <Dr-008> ive tried modifying my boot via easybcd i think its called
[20:40] <Dr-008> but no success
[20:40] <bekks> Dr-008: So what did you do exactly?
[20:50] <Dr-008> bekks, i installed ubuntu, then it had to reboot. then it rebooted. then it said i had to remove the disk and press enter
[20:50] <Dr-008> i removed the disk and preseed enter. but i thought it wasnt working so i forced a reboot
[20:50] <Dr-008> i think thats where i broke the grub2 insall or something
[20:51] <Dr-008> anyway, im hoping theres a way to reinstall on the partitions i already made (and already successfully installed ubuntu too)
[20:51] <Dr-008> or to just modify the windows bootloader to boot ubuntu
[20:52] <Dr-008> or perhabs install grub2 via windows
[20:52] <bekks> Dr-008: So where did you install grub to?
[20:52] <Dr-008> i figured i could install grub2 via cli on live-disk boot. but that disk doesnt boot anymore
[20:53] <Dr-008> bekks, i told it to overwrite the windows boot
[20:53] <Dr-008> which i found online i should do
[20:53] <bekks> Dr-008: Which device did you specify?
[20:53] <Dr-008> but it seems like it didnt overwrite that at all
[20:53] <Dr-008> bekks, i dont know anymore
[20:53] <Dr-008> the windows boot loader
[20:53] <Dr-008> or something like that
[20:54] <bekks> Dr-008: That "something" is important.
[20:54] <Dr-008> you know, windows boot menu
[20:54] <Dr-008> the same as grub
[20:54] <Dr-008> only from windows
[20:54] <Dr-008> online it said i should specify that to install ubuntu grub2 to that device block
[20:55] <Dr-008> but the question is, how can i boot from my ubuntu disk again?
[20:55] <Dr-008> when i press f12 and wait for the boot menu to popup i choose my dvd drive
[20:55] <Dr-008> i hear it reading
[20:55] <Dr-008> but then it just goes to my windows bootloader thingy where i can choose from the os's
[21:01] <Nek`> Hello !
[21:06] <Nek`> I have a problem guys: I have a /boot partition to resize but I have an LVM partition. That I need to resize first to achieve that.
[21:06] <Nek`> Is there a simple and safe way to resize lvm ?
[21:06] <bekks> Nek`: then you should creata full backup first.
[21:07] <bekks> Nek`: No, no simple way, and without a backup, nothing is safe.
[21:07] <Nek`> I already have a backup but well, it would be better to success the resizing :)
[21:07] <Nek`> bekks: you mean I need to do all from the command line ?
[21:08] <bekks> Nek`: Of course.
[21:08] <Nek`> :/
[21:08] <Nek`> Any good tutorial that explain it clearly ?
[21:14] <Zren> Any of you guys have a postinstall.sh script to share that install/configure apps?
[21:14] <TTTA> anyone have any idea what could be causing a kernel error on starting up a fresh install of Ubuntu?
[21:15] <k1l> TTTA: what linux did you install exactly? and what machine is that?
[21:15] <TTTA> UBUNTU 14.04.4, machine I built myself
[21:16] <bekks> TTTA: And which error exactly do you get?
[21:16] <TTTA> I'd have to restart and get a picture of it
[21:16] <k1l> what cpu, what gpu, how much ram? did it work with another os before? what is the exact issue? did the live-usb work?
[21:16] <TTTA> there's a stack trace or something
[21:17] <TTTA> I've installed UBUNTU on here before, same version
[21:17] <TTTA> I had a stable UBUNTU 14.04/WIN10 install for about a year
[21:17] <bekks> TTTA: Irrelevant for  your issue :)
[21:18] <TTTA> which part is irrelevant?
[21:18] <bekks> What you had installed before.
[21:18] <TTTA> alright, I'll restart and see if I can take a picture of the error
[21:22] <AstralTim67> What's a good channel to discuss world affairs and help awaken others?  http://www.stoptheglobalists.com
[21:23] <le_pig> lol
[21:23] <k1l> AstralTim67: ##chat or #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:23] <AstralTim67> Thanks
[21:24] <AstralTim67> I will research proper usage and etiquette first.
[21:25] <kermit_> how do i instantiate gedit?
[21:25] <bekks> kermit_: By starting it?
[21:25] <kermit_> will it work with double clicking?
[21:25] <kermit_> a file?
[21:26] <VeN0m> you could open a terminal and do gedit&
[21:26] <VeN0m> if it's installed
[21:27] <kermit_> VeN0m, it started 7653 and 7662 process but it's all in one program window
[21:27] <kermit_> can i get new window for each document?
[21:28] <kermit_> it's tabbed in gedit
[21:28] <VeN0m> I am not sure, let me check
[21:29] <VeN0m> check the solution here kermit_ http://askubuntu.com/questions/219046/configure-gedit-to-always-open-in-new-window
[21:29] <aminux> please how to install word office in xubuntu
[21:29] <VeN0m> kermit_, looks like you can set that option with      gsettings set org.gnome.gedit.preferences.ui notebook-show-tabs-mode 'never'
[21:29] <k1l> i think gnome team thinks tabbing is the new way
[21:30] <VeN0m> would be nice if it would behave like firefox or chrome where you can drag the tab to a new window :X
[21:30] <uchua> yeah
[21:31] <VeN0m> anyone know of a notepad++ equivalent for linux that doesn't require compilation? (I'm lazy)
[21:31] <TTTA> http://m.imgur.com/Hyb17zs
[21:31] <TTTA> There's the error it's throwing on startup
[21:32] <k1l> TiCPU: did it work in the usb mode?
[21:32] <VeN0m> there have been a lot of complaints with the .30 kernel TTTA...will your machine boot using .27?
[21:33] <TTTA> How would I go about doing that?
[21:34] <kermit_> VeN0m, thanks! that worked
[21:34] <k1l> press left shift while booting to get the grub screen. there choose the older kernel
[21:34] <VeN0m> they say to hold down shift while booting with GRUB
[21:34] <VeN0m> woot, what he said :D
[21:34] <EriC^^> TTTA: you're trying to boot the live usb?
[21:34] <VeN0m> kermit_, sweet! Glad to hear it!
[21:34] <kermit_> k1l, coming from a world of windows, it's not easy to get used to tabbed windows (no pun), especially not with text files
[21:35] <TTTA> EriC^^: nope, this should be a full install
[21:35] <kermit_> i often use notepad in windows like a clipboard and that works with multiple program windows
[21:35] <EriC^^> TTTA: do you have a live usb?
[21:35] <TTTA> Yes
[21:35] <EriC^^> TTTA: it looks like it's failing to mount the root fs on the hdd
[21:35] <kermit_> VeN0m, it would be very nice to be able to drag out the tab like in firefox! ;)
[21:36] <VeN0m> kermit_, that would make sense...we can't have any of that!!
[21:36] <EriC^^> TTTA: ok, if the older kernel doesn't work, i guess try the live usb and fsck the filesystems
[21:39] <VeN0m> EriC^^, if linux is complaining that an NTFS file system wasn't unmounted cleanly, is there a way to force it to mount other than booting into winblowz and rebooting again? O.o
[21:39] <kermit_> has anyone here used flashrom before? is it safe to use to reflash a gigabyte bios?
[21:40] <kermit_> VeN0m, winblowz! lol! :D i think winblowz 10 might have screwed up my bios or sata controller
[21:41] <kermit_> that's what brought me to linux here today, to try to fix the mess
[21:41] <VeN0m> I'm too much of a wimp...tried a modified bios for my HP to allow aftermarket wifi PCIe cards...had a weird bug to where if the battery ran down, it blackscreened...had to use a strange utility to flash a custom recovery bios image that was decrypted....was a royal PITA
[21:41] <k1l> VeN0m: you need to boot windows anyway. because you need to unset the fake fastboot option for that drive so it can be mounted by other OSs.
[21:42] <VeN0m> ahhhh
[21:42] <VeN0m> is that something they started doing in win10?
[21:43] <k1l> windows uses a hibernation for their ntfs partitions to speed up the boottime. but that does block it form beeing mounted by others
[21:43] <kermit_> hey yeah, what's with that fastboot thing? hybrid something...
[21:43] <VeN0m> good to know :D:D that explains why win10 "boots faster" than its predecessors
[21:43] <VeN0m> ok, take care all
[21:44] <jackwebs> so I can't start something on a certain port, let's say 80
[21:44] <kermit_> i noticed only recently that my "uptime" in task manager was waay longer than what it's supposed to be after a reboot
[21:44] <jackwebs> it says something is using port 80
[21:44] <jackwebs> but I can't find anything else using it
[21:44] <jackwebs> listening on it, I mean
[21:44] <k1l> jackwebs: you cant start 2 programs using one port
[21:45] <jackwebs> k1l, I know
[21:45] <jackwebs> I can't find anything else that's using it
[21:45] <EriC^^> jackwebs: try sudo lsof -i :80
[21:45] <jackwebs> EriC^^,  nothing
[21:45] <kermit_> ven000m, take care! good luck with winblows! ;)
[21:45] <kermit_> ven000m, sorry
[21:45] <EriC^^> jackwebs: netstat -tuln | grep 80
[21:46] <kermit_> ven0m was already offline
[21:47] <k1l> jackwebs: can you put a "ps ax" into paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here?
[21:47] <jackwebs> yeah one sec
[21:47] <jackwebs> EriC^^, netstat -tuln shows nothing either
[21:48] <jackwebs> I might just start it on another port and wait for reboot
[21:48] <k1l> jackwebs: what program do you want to start? and how are you starting it?
[21:48] <jackwebs> it's a python web app from a friend
[21:49] <jackwebs> hmm OK.. I change the port to 8082, it says that's in use aswell
[21:49] <jackwebs> so maybe there's a problem in the app
[21:49] <jackwebs> because it seems unlikely they're both in use when I can't see anything using them
[21:51] <jackwebs> ah nevermind I fixed it
[21:52] <EriC^^> needed sudo eh
[21:52] <jackwebs> it's hard coded to listen to an IP address that I don't have on my machine
[21:52] <EriC^^> ah nevermind
[21:52] <jackwebs> tchuh
[21:57] <kermit_> i saw an interesting device i/o error during ubuntu installation
[21:57] <kermit_> how can i find it in logs?
[21:59] <EriC^^> kermit_: try locate ubiquity
[22:00] <Rush2112> Hi all, my Ubuntu laptop's headphone jack doesn't work at all. I don't think it's a hardware issue, since before I reinstalled Ubuntu AGES ago, only the headphone jack worked and the speakers didn't; now it's vice versa. Anyone know a fix to this?
[22:00] <MannyLNJ> Help please. I keep getting a messagew that 14.04 encountered an internal error everytime i boot the system
[22:00] <kermit_> EriC^^, ubuquity is the installer?
[22:00] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:01] <kermit_> will this be a string in a log?
[22:01] <kermit_> sorry, i'm noob at linux
[22:01] <EriC^^> it might be in the filename
[22:01] <kermit_> trying to fix bios related problem, have been working with this shit all day, i think windows 10 destroyed my bios and perhaps even sata controller
[22:02] <bekks> kermit_: I strongly doubt both.
[22:02] <EriC^^> kermit_: try typing locate ubiquity in a terminal
[22:03] <neo__> hi
[22:04] <kermit_> bekks, because?
[22:04] <kermit_> EriC^^, would the logs be in /usr/lib/ubiquity?
[22:06] <bekks> kermit_: because your OS doesnt break your BIOS. </offtopic>
[22:06] <EriC^^> kermit_: maybe
[22:06] <EriC^^> kermit_: check /var/log/installer
[22:10] <kermit_> bekks, but OS can run utilities that can be destructive, even for the low level stuff like bios
[22:12] <bekks> kermit_: And none of those tools are shipped with an OS, by default. So lets continue with the ontopic part.
[22:14] <kermit_> bekks: ok
[22:15] <kermit_> bekks, where does ubuntu store logs from the first boot process before the installation guide appears?
[22:16] <kermit_> i have noted the
[22:16] <kermit_> error message
[22:16] <bekks> kermit_: Nowhere, since that happens on the livecd.
[22:16] <kb__> what is tracker-control on Gnome? and how does one get ride of it?
[22:17] <Amm0n> bekks, these tools are shipped with UEFI by default, including a networkstack to do this remote^
[22:18] <bekks> Amm0n: With UEFI, not with the OS.
[22:18] <kermit_> "blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0"
[22:19] <genii> kermit_: So hardware error of a hard drive
[22:19] <k1l> cd/dvd error?
[22:19] <bekks> genii: sr0 is the first  cd/dvd drive.
[22:20] <kermit_> my bios seems to have problems booting from usb drives after i used windows 10 on one ssd drive
[22:20] <genii> bekks: Ah, read it as sd0 for some reason
[22:20] <kermit_> since then i was unable to reinstall, or clean install windows 10 on any harddrive
[22:20] <kermit_> but booting from DVD and installing on hdd worked
[22:21] <kermit_> the only method that works with both windows and linux now
[22:21] <kermit_> something with my bios then?
[22:21] <bekks> kermit_: So disable UEFI Secure Boot.
[22:21] <kermit_> bekks: it's legacy BIOS
[22:21] <EriC^^> kermit_: try disabling fastboot
[22:22] <kermit_> EriC^^: i have cleaned the drive, the ssd, the hdd, the first, hdd, second hdd
[22:22] <kermit_> using diskpart in windows pe
[22:22] <kermit_> didn't help
[22:22] <bekks> kermit_: Windows PE will not help at all.
[22:22] <kermit_> i flashed back from F9K BIOS to F7, then F8, nothing
[22:23] <kermit_> bekks: in windows pe i can run tools like disk editor, and clean or even zero fill the disks
[22:23] <EriC^^> kermit_: go to the bios, and disable fastboot if it's enabled
[22:23] <bekks> kermit_: Which is not helping to solve your issue.
[22:24] <kermit_> EriC^^: sorry, i don't have that. it's old legacy BIOS
[22:25] <kermit_> bekks: it did once help me get rid of a CHS disk address to LBA mismatch in AHCI mode
[22:25] <kermit_> intel AHCI bios image was buggy
[22:25] <kermit_> so it wrote wrong values at 13c offset
[22:26] <kermit_> changing that to 0xfeffff made the pc boot
[22:26] <kermit_> only way to do that is manually use a disk editor
[22:26] <kermit_> well, not the only, but the only that does not require reformat and loosing data
[22:27] <MannyLNJ> Help please. I keep getting a messagew that 14.04 encountered an internal error everytime i boot the system
[22:28] <kermit_> good disk editors are hard to get by these days, and the very best ones are made for windows... or dos even, not that it will help much with newer disks
[22:29] <EriC^^> MannyLNJ: try details and see what it's about
[22:30] <MannyLNJ> EriC^^, It' a crash in upowered
[22:32] <TTTA>  Fresh install, get a totally black screen after logging in
[22:32] <TTTA> Bad video card drivers?
[22:33] <kermit_> bekks: have a look at this site for info on error type i described, http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=8585.0
[22:34] <TTTA> I can get to the recovery console, but that's it
[22:34] <bekks> kermit_: Is that related to a specific ubuntu issue you are currently having?
[22:34] <bekks> !nomodeset | TTTA
[22:36] <kermit_> bekks: that's not my current problem, but i think it may be related, because i have had that problem too where the intel ahci hanging at boot unless the hex values are correct on disk
[22:37] <kermit_> bekks: my current problem is that i can't seem to boot from USB flash drives using boot menu, but it works when booting from DVD disc
[22:38] <TTTA> Bekks: I'm a pretty new user, that post seems to assume a knowledge base greater than mine
[22:38] <TTTA> Basically, I have no idea what it's telling me to do
[22:38] <kermit_> bekks: i can actually boot NTFS based, but not FAT based USB keys... i think. because i can boot windows 10 from USB flash drive, but can't install it. it give me this: "couldn't find boot disk on this bios-based computer"
[22:39] <kermit_> bekks: if i boot Windows 10 from DVD i get past that and i can install it even, but then i ran into some "automatic repair" loop, it hangs during boot
[22:40] <bekks> kermit_: And what is your _ubuntu_ issue?
[22:45] <kermit_> bekks: none so far! but! i did encounter the I/O error during boot from DVD. i would like to know more about it, maybe someone can help me pull out relevant logs? also, i am sitting here on 14.04.4 lts, and it installs fine, but not the ubuntu 15.10 for some reason, it gets stuck in a loop during installation with some "fatal error" showing up over and over
[22:48] <Bassem> any one know how to change mic settings for firefox flashplayer
[22:48] <adeon_> right click
[22:48] <adeon_> then choose the mic
[22:56] <BikerMike> Has anyone tried installing Trusty Tahr on an old MBP 3,1? What should I look out for?
[22:56] <lvn> oh
[22:56] <lvn> oh god
[22:56] <lvn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/740492/cant-find-clit
[22:57] <lvn> i'm done
[22:58] <kermit_> lvn: was it the word "clit" that turned you on?
[22:58] <lvn> .
[22:58] <lvn> .
[22:58] <lvn> .
[22:58] <dax> stick to support folks, thanks
[22:58] <adeon_> hahaha
[23:00] <kermit_> stick to the clit... sorry! couldn't help it
[23:00] <genii> lvn: Inappropriate content for this channel. If you're not here here to give or receive support for your Ubuntu, either idle quietly or go to an appropriate channel for what you wish to actually talk about
[23:00] <genii> kermit_: No encouragement please.
[23:01] <kermit_> okidoki
[23:02] <kermit_> BikerMike: not me, but i'm running it on a pc, and it is the only os that will run on this pc atm
[23:03] <giddles> hello
[23:03] <giddles> i run ubuntu mate on an rpi2 and have no audio :(
[23:04] <giddles> amixer cset numid=3 1
[23:04] <giddles>  works only half
[23:04] <kermit_> BikerMike: what i mean to say is that i can recommend lts releases, easily
[23:07] <pantato> so i broke my install for rtorrent by trying to make install it from source code when i already had it installed from the repo
[23:07] <pantato> and i can't figure out how to fix it
[23:08] <genii> pantato: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall rtorrent   ...may do it
[23:09] <pantato> nope
[23:09] <pantato> rtorrent: error while loading shared libraries: libtorrent.so.19: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[23:09] <pantato> i removed all my libtorrent/rtorrent packages then i build a .deb from the latest tar ball
[23:09] <pantato> and installed libtorrent and rtorrent like that
[23:10] <pantato> but it looks like it still doesn't wanna use the right libtorrent libs
[23:10] <genii> pantato: Go in the directory you ran the "make" command, and run make dist-clean or make clean
[23:11] <pantato> genii: i think i deleted the one that originally effed it up :\
[23:12] <genii> pantato: So then you're going to havge to manually go back through all the libtorrent/rtoorent packages you removed earlier and reinstall them
[23:12] <pantato> erm
[23:12] <pantato> should i use aptitude?
[23:13] <genii> pantato: Whichever one you used before
[23:14] <pantato> this is hopeless
[23:14] <pantato> lol
[23:15] <mcphail> pantato: have you run "sudo ldconfig" after removing your hand-rolled libraries and reinstalling the Ubuntu ones?
[23:15] <genii> That also couldn't hurt
[23:18] <pantato> http://pastebin.com/xJYTXYZi
[23:18] <bekks> pantato: you didnt show us the actual error(s) you get when doing what exactly.
[23:18] <pantato> ^ could that mean anything?
[23:20] <pantato> http://pastebin.com/HJ4LusyK
[23:20] <mcphail> pantato: that means you are removing self-installed files. Nothing more, nothing less. The Ubuntu repos do not install anything under /usr/local
[23:21] <bekks> pantato: rtorrent was installed just fine. type: "hash -r", and "which rtorrent"
[23:22] <pantato> now when i try and run it i get
[23:22] <pantato> rtorrent: symbol lookup error: rtorrent: undefined symbol: _ZN7torrent11thread_base8m_globalE
[23:22] <pantato> after doing what bekks told me
[23:22] <pantato> lol
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[23:28] <NwS> heya guys
[23:28] <NwS> is there a command to stop cat or find
[23:28] <bekks> NwS: press ctrl c
[23:29] <NwS> tyvm bekks once again :P
[23:29] <NwS> Found the problem with the logrotate the other day
[23:35] <aruiz_> d
[23:36] <dio> ?
[23:41] <bluesfreak72> Hi there.  I tried installing other desktop environments and window managers on my wily machine.  I went back to unity and lost the unity greeter login screen.  I have tried googling around to find a solution, but nothing seems to work.  Help please!
[23:47] <TTTA> after beating UBUNTU into submission over the past three days, I've finally gotten it installed and able to get past the login screen
[23:47] <Starcraftmazter> iu
[23:47] <squinty> bluesfreak72,  default display manager for unity is lightdm.  try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm  to set it as the default  (will only work if it;s still installed)
[23:47] <Starcraftmazter> how can gnome be restarted in 14.04?
[23:47] <TTTA> but of course now it won't have anything to do with the second monitor
[23:47] <Starcraftmazter> tried gnome-shell --replace but it doesnt exist
[23:48] <k1l> Starcraftmazter: logout?
[23:49] <dio> what do you need to do exactly? you can atp-get purge it then reinstall it from terminal
[23:49] <bluesfreak72> squinty: no dice.  It takes me to the package configuration screen where I choose lightdm over gdm, but nothing.
[23:51] <dio> if you need gnome desktop though you also need to install ubuntu-gnome-desktop I would recommend just downloading the Ubuntu Gnome CD tho its all setup.
[23:51] <squinty> bluesfreak72,  stilled installed?   could try  sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[23:53] <bekks> dio: installing ubuntu-gnome-desktop installs exactly the same packages as your cd.
[23:54] <dio> I know
[23:54] <dio> just less work if he doesn't know how
[23:54] <bluesfreak72> squinty: If this helps, it's giving me an error:  The system is running in low-graphics mode.  Your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly.  You will need to configure these yourself.
[23:54] <bekks> dio: Even more work and an unneeded reinstallation.
[23:55] <dio> yeah if you have stuff installed. I just borked a 14.04 trying to roll my own GTK edgers. So maybe I'm a little in the I hate apt-get mode
[23:55] <dio> lol
[23:56] <bluesfreak72> I know I could re-install to fix it, but I don't want to do that unless I have to.
[23:56] <dio> ok
[23:57] <dio> yeah for gnome I used the mentho of installing by purging then I installed using the ubuntu-gnome-desktop gnome-shell gnome I think that was all of them
[23:57] <dio> then you do the dpkg reconfigure
[23:58] <dio> select gdm
[23:58] <squinty> bluesfreak72,  maybe try in tty  sudo service lightdm restart
[23:58] <Bashing-om> bluesfreak72: Have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm' to set the default display manager .
[23:58] <squinty> yes he has
[23:58] <dio> other idea is to try nomodeset on the grub bootloader
[23:59] <dio> anyway like everyone said it was an easy switch