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| knome | writing some at http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-mm-cloud | 15:51 |
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| knome | hai flocculant_ | 16:00 |
| flocculant_ | :) | 16:00 |
| knome | flexiondotorg, i just checked the download page of ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker.org... and you're using the old (pre-2012) xubuntu logo | 16:03 |
| flexiondotorg | Oh, link to correct logo/ | 16:03 |
| flexiondotorg | ? | 16:03 |
| flexiondotorg | svg ideally. | 16:03 |
| knome | well, it's fairly easy to find that on our website, but here's what you want: http://static.xubuntu.org/xubuntu_brand/Icon/SVG/xubuntu_icon.svg | 16:04 |
| flexiondotorg | Got it. | 16:04 |
| flocculant_ | knome: if google play will only play itunes of your own - or you have to pay monthly - should we be even mentioning it | 16:07 |
| knome | i don't know google play | 16:07 |
| flocculant_ | well I only know https://play.google.com/music/listen#/sulp | 16:07 |
| knome | we should ask pleia2 about it ;) | 16:07 |
| knome | but i feel like we should probably mention it even if it is just subscription-based | 16:09 |
| knome | if somebody in the team uses it, it's good enough for them (and likely worth the money) | 16:09 |
| flocculant_ | I guess | 16:09 |
| knome | but if the collection is available for subscription only, we totally need to be clear about that | 16:10 |
| knome | i wouldn't exactly recommend an app that plays ads either | 16:10 |
| knome | ...unless it's fair considering what you get in exchange | 16:11 |
| flocculant_ | well no - I think we could definitely agree on those points :D | 16:11 |
| knome | or unless it can be fair from your point of view | 16:11 |
| knome | at least we're giving non-cloud options too ;) | 16:11 |
| flocculant_ | yep | 16:11 |
| knome | everything has its price | 16:11 |
| flocculant_ | I don't know that we should be going here though tbh | 16:12 |
| flocculant_ | we're supposed to be doing a 'what people use as media managers' | 16:12 |
| knome | sure | 16:12 |
| knome | but since that would be a short article series, i think it's a good idea to show the other options too | 16:12 |
| flocculant_ | just because some of us don't - doesn't mean we should do 'what people use as media managers - but because some don't we're adding these things as well' | 16:13 |
| knome | this is not "these are the recommended ones" :) | 16:13 |
| knome | lol | 16:13 |
| knome | no, not really | 16:13 |
| flocculant_ | yea yea ofc it's not :) | 16:13 |
| knome | we probably want to edit the final article about the cloud services to not look so "selling" | 16:14 |
| flocculant_ | anyway - going way off the topic - mostly just concerned about pointing at things if the only way it's any 'good' is with £'s :) | 16:14 |
| knome | and i was thining some comments from the team too | 16:14 |
| flocculant_ | well | 16:15 |
| flocculant_ | if we're gonig to add these things into the pot - then the people who use them should do what the rest of us have imho | 16:15 |
| knome | "Pasi: While I listen to local songs with gmusicbrowser most of the time, I occasionally listen to a few tracks on Spotify. For that purpose, the web interface is good enough." | 16:15 |
| flocculant_ | then the things like cost will be in their post | 16:16 |
| knome | but most of the questions aren't very appropriate :D | 16:16 |
| flocculant_ | I'm sure that people are capable of dealing with that :) | 16:16 |
| knome | haha | 16:16 |
| knome | well | 16:16 |
| knome | i just don't think we can warrant one article per cloud service | 16:16 |
| knome | for the reasons we talked a minute ago | 16:16 |
| flocculant_ | eg I hate media managers - so pfft to those questions - I use foo because | 16:16 |
| knome | ads and subscriptions | 16:17 |
| knome | yeah, we should do a "summary" section | 16:17 |
| knome | for reasons why they use cloud things | 16:17 |
| knome | it's all very organic | 16:17 |
| flocculant_ | nope - one article on them all works | 16:17 |
| knome | that's why i'm asking for feedback from them now so we can get the train moving | 16:17 |
| flocculant_ | ^^ is reply to "don't think we can warrant one article ..." | 16:18 |
| knome | yep | 16:18 |
| knome | the desktop integration is something we should focus on more than the plans | 16:18 |
| flocculant_ | waiting to read Unit193's on how he listens to music so he doesn't have to get involved with media managers :D | 16:18 |
| knome | hah | 16:19 |
| knome | yeah | 16:19 |
| knome | "here's the weirdo of the team, using a kernel module to playback music" | 16:19 |
| flocculant_ | ha ha ha | 16:19 |
| flocculant_ | well | 16:19 |
| knome | "*Unit193 waves*" | 16:19 |
| flocculant_ | "here's one of the weirdo's in the team, using a kernel module to playback music" | 16:19 |
| knome | hah | 16:19 |
| flocculant_ | mmm | 16:20 |
| knome | "he also wears a tinfoil hat" | 16:20 |
| knome | "with pigtails" | 16:20 |
| flocculant_ | didn't actually think about desktop integration of what people (I) use | 16:20 |
| knome | yeah, i guess we should talk about that on the local managers too | 16:20 |
| knome | but also on the cloud players, because it's less obvious there | 16:21 |
| flocculant_ | yep - can control clementine from the indicator just the same | 16:21 |
| knome | yes, gmb has that support too | 16:21 |
| flocculant_ | yea | 16:21 |
| knome | for the "other players" article, what do we want to cover? | 16:22 |
| knome | do we limit to GTK? | 16:22 |
| flocculant_ | All servers unavailable due to DNS problems ... that'll be why I lost connection then ... | 16:22 |
| knome | hah | 16:22 |
| flocculant_ | I thought it was resolvconf upgrade :p | 16:23 |
| knome | that's why i have a line for my IRC host in /etc/hosts :D :D | 16:23 |
| flocculant_ | I hate upgrading things I'm not sure about when things stop working :D | 16:23 |
| flocculant_ | s/hate/hate having had | 16:23 |
| knome | a list of some managers follows | 16:24 |
| knome | banshee | 16:24 |
| knome | exaile | 16:24 |
| knome | quod libet | 16:24 |
| knome | rhythmbox | 16:24 |
| knome | songbird | 16:24 |
| knome | amarok | 16:24 |
| knome | xmms :P | 16:24 |
| knome | was looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_audio_software | 16:24 |
| knome | s/songbird/nightingale/ | 16:25 |
| flocculant_ | Requesting has been temporarily HALTED. This will resume in: 1d 12h 40m - reason: Domain issues, even though it was paid for last week. This has to be sorted. | 16:25 |
| flocculant_ | oh great ... | 16:25 |
| * knome facepalms | 16:25 | |
| knome | also, we should briefly mention apps that are figured out to have a good UX when listening to streams | 16:26 |
| flocculant_ | really should just not bother with this bouncer stuff | 16:27 |
| flocculant_ | nightingale doesn't appear to work btw - looked a short while ago, the ppa's arealmost 4 months since something failed to build | 16:38 |
| knome | aha | 16:48 |
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| Unit193 | Technically I cocmpiled it into a kernel module. >_> | 18:15 |
| flocculant | davmor2: last week while I head stuck well and truly in beta 1 were you in and out of -release talking about upgrades ? | 19:24 |
| flocculant | to 16.04 I assumed | 19:24 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: 14.04 to 16.04 | 19:26 |
| flocculant | aah good - was it failing? | 19:27 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: yes repeatedly | 19:27 |
| * flocculant hopes it's not just us :) | 19:27 | |
| flocculant | cool - doesn't even start for us - some unath'd package issue and reverts | 19:28 |
| davmor2 | yeap that is the new one | 19:28 |
| flocculant | probably no point in carrying on then - I wanted to know where *we* stood | 19:28 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1551198 | 19:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1551198 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "14.04→16.04 upgrade failed" [Undecided,New] | 19:29 |
| flocculant | bug 1550741 | 19:30 |
| ubottu | bug 1550741 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade failed - unathenticated package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1550741 | 19:30 |
| davmor2 | there's another one too if it gets passed that point | 19:31 |
| flocculant | davmor2: which one do you want to be the dupe :D | 19:31 |
| flocculant | I'd seen one a couple of weeks ago | 19:31 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: leave them for cyphermox the might be different but with the same error | 19:32 |
| flocculant | okey doke | 19:32 |
| flocculant | libutempter issue last time | 19:33 |
| cyphermox | actually aren't these two the same error with module-init-tools? | 19:33 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: mod-init-tools I think was mine | 19:33 |
| flocculant | that was this weekend for us - your bug and mine - same thing | 19:34 |
| flocculant | screenshots are spookily similar too :D | 19:34 |
| flocculant | oh no they aren't - I didn't do one lol | 19:35 |
| flocculant | 2016-02-29 11:37:13,775 ERROR Unauthenticated packages found: 'module-init-tools' from you and 2016-02-27 13:17:44,711 ERROR Unauthenticated packages found: 'module-init-tools' from me | 19:37 |
| flocculant | I won't dupe them - but I'd be surprised if they aren't | 19:37 |
| knome | Unit193, whatever it is you are actually using, please sign up for writing an article | 20:04 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Because "yey one change per commit": https://bitbucket.org/xubuntu/xfdashboard/commits/cdf8d7727a115928afbffed08e4fc523859bbfa3 (for your review, if you'd like.) | 20:15 |
| Unit193 | Also, time to reset the counter for how many times I've made the 'xfdasboard' typo. | 20:16 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: And if you want to poke it, to make sure I didn't break it, that'd be good too. | 20:36 |
| Unit193 | There's a new -plugins package, should install since it's in recommends. | 20:36 |
| flocculant | Unit193: ok - it'll show up shortly then :) | 20:37 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: fyi - some activity in -desktop re g-s with robert ancell tonight | 20:43 |
| Unit193 | Saw updates scroll past Debian too, think it's in decent shape there. Didn't actually check of course though. >_> | 20:44 |
| flocculant | was an update this afternoon - categories gone now | 20:45 |
| slickymaster | as far as I understood your intention is to have a slide for the wallpaper contest, right? | 22:18 |
| slickymaster | knome ^^ | 22:18 |
| knome | slickymaster, that was discussed 2 years ago and some drafts were made even | 22:18 |
| slickymaster | yeah, I remember | 22:19 |
| slickymaster | just enlighten me something | 22:20 |
| knome | yes? | 22:20 |
| slickymaster | are you talking about another slide, or the replacment of one of the existing ones, knome? | 22:20 |
| knome | another slide | 22:20 |
| slickymaster | ok | 22:20 |
| knome | though i think we should probably try to rework most of the slides | 22:21 |
| knome | they are old by now and everybody have seen them | 22:21 |
| slickymaster | yes | 22:21 |
| knome | as i said the last time, one option is to try to poke people at our website more | 22:21 |
| knome | and with that, have less content on the slideshow | 22:21 |
| slickymaster | yeah, I saw your "look we have a website, look" :P | 22:21 |
| knome | and less maintaining | 22:21 |
| slickymaster | so your idea is to withdraw content from the slides and use the slides to point ant various website content? | 22:22 |
| slickymaster | s/ant/at | 22:23 |
| slickymaster | knome ^ | 22:23 |
| knome | not completely necessary | 22:23 |
| knome | and that's just one of the paths we can take | 22:23 |
| knome | i'm happy to hear all ideas | 22:24 |
| knome | (and it's not only me who makes the decision anyway, this concerns the whole team) | 22:24 |
| slickymaster | currently we have 6 slides, if I'm not mistaken | 22:24 |
| knome | sth like that | 22:25 |
| slickymaster | I wouldn't mind focusing on the website, but that will leave us with a installer empty of content | 22:25 |
| knome | the question i have is does anybody read the content anyway | 22:26 |
| slickymaster | or at least just with graphical content with links to the website, which people might, or not, even follow | 22:26 |
| slickymaster | fair point | 22:26 |
| knome | also, we've been focusing on new features before | 22:26 |
| knome | nothing on the slideshow isn't new any more | 22:26 |
| knome | unless you count the changes made to the "preinstalled apps" slide | 22:27 |
| slickymaster | for a long time nor, it isn't | 22:27 |
| slickymaster | so we're speaking of a major revamp | 22:27 |
| knome | yeah | 22:27 |
| knome | we should do one every 2 years | 22:27 |
| slickymaster | going to add this to the discussion items for the meeting | 22:28 |
| knome | yeah | 22:28 |
| slickymaster | before starting anyhting, I agree with you, it concerns the all team | 22:28 |
| slickymaster | one other thing knome, is https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-doc/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-1604 temporary? | 22:28 |
| slickymaster | or is it going to be final landing place for the installer? | 22:29 |
| knome | i thought we could prepare the stuff there, then do one push to main | 22:29 |
| slickymaster | did you see my ping re our mails to the other flavors? | 22:29 |
| knome | which one of them? | 22:29 |
| slickymaster | no one said anything | 22:30 |
| knome | yeah, i noticed | 22:30 |
| knome | i think this is poop :P | 22:30 |
| knome | anyway | 22:30 |
| knome | i know i've said this before | 22:30 |
| slickymaster | lol | 22:30 |
| knome | but maybe postpone one more cycle | 22:30 |
| slickymaster | yeah, you did | 22:30 |
| knome | now is LTS, i don't want to mess it up | 22:30 |
| knome | let's do this as always, then change | 22:30 |
| knome | or just leave it | 22:30 |
| * knome shrugs | 22:30 | |
| knome | the most important thing is that we get uploads done when we need | 22:31 |
| slickymaster | I'll wait a couple of weeks before postponing it | 22:31 |
| slickymaster | who knows | 22:31 |
| knome | if there are people who are active and will do those uploads, it's not a problem | 22:31 |
| slickymaster | right | 22:31 |
| knome | at least we should figure out what we want to do our slideshow first :P | 22:43 |
| knome | i'm listening! :P | 22:43 |
| slickymaster | added it to the meeting | 22:44 |
| slickymaster | tbh I don't dislike the idea of a pure graphical slideshow with links to content outside of it | 22:46 |
| knome | mhm | 22:46 |
| slickymaster | knome, any reason why https://code.launchpad.net/~flocculant/xubuntu-docs/upgrade/+merge/287403 is pending? | 22:49 |
| slickymaster | did you forget it? | 22:49 |
| slickymaster | or do you want me to review it? | 22:49 |
| knome | i'm lazy? | 22:49 |
| slickymaster | that's not it ÷P | 22:49 |
| knome | s/it's/its/ | 22:50 |
| knome | s/Upgrade(Image)/Upgrade (Image)/ | 22:50 |
| slickymaster | so, does that mean that you're reviewing it or you just pointing me at it? | 22:51 |
| knome | i can do it later | 22:51 |
| slickymaster | ok, I'll go and take care of the gmb references | 22:52 |
| knome | mhm | 22:52 |
| slickymaster | lol | 22:52 |
| knome | merge done | 23:06 |
| slickymaster | thanks knome | 23:22 |
| bluesabre | evening all | 23:31 |
| knome | hallo bluesabre | 23:31 |
| bluesabre | heyo knome | 23:31 |
| bluesabre | knome: thinking of reworking the slideshow then? | 23:34 |
| knome | yep, sth new for the LTS | 23:35 |
| slickymaster | yes | 23:35 |
| bluesabre | sounds like fun | 23:36 |
| bluesabre | let me know if you need any feedback etc | 23:36 |
| * knome lets bluesabre know | 23:36 | |
| slickymaster | I added to the meeying bluesabre | 23:36 |
| * knome waits for feedback | 23:36 | |
| slickymaster | meeting | 23:36 |
| bluesabre | slickymaster: can't make it to the meeting | 23:37 |
| slickymaster | no problem we'll think of ways of getting you on board ;) | 23:37 |
| bluesabre | knome: the menulibre screenshot that is on the 15.10 slideshow is of an old version of menulibre | 23:38 |
| bluesabre | noticed that the other day | 23:38 |
| knome | just assign all work to bluesabre | 23:38 |
| bluesabre | :D | 23:38 |
| slickymaster | there's one right there :D | 23:38 |
| bluesabre | nooooooo | 23:38 |
| bluesabre | it won't get done if you do that | 23:38 |
| slickymaster | lol | 23:38 |
| knome | bluesabre, how do you feel about the slide generally? | 23:38 |
| knome | is it still current and useful enough? | 23:38 |
| bluesabre | knome: I don't have the branch on my machine currently, and would take some time for me to fire up a vm | 23:39 |
| bluesabre | knome: I'll work on feedback tonight and post it here | 23:40 |
| knome | bluesabre, cheerio | 23:40 |
| bluesabre | bbabl | 23:40 |
| knome | pleia2, any ideas from you? | 23:44 |
| pleia2 | drat, I made my presence known | 23:45 |
| pleia2 | tl;dr | 23:45 |
| knome | yeah... | 23:45 |
| knome | pleia2, ideas for improving the installer slideshow? | 23:45 |
| pleia2 | I should look at it some time | 23:45 |
| knome | we'll talk about it on the meeting on thu | 23:45 |
| pleia2 | ok, I'll make some time prior to that then to do some iso tests AND have a look | 23:46 |
| knome | :)) | 23:46 |
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