| Drroot | Hello | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | 'lo | 00:21 |
| Drroot | 16.04 relealse? | 00:22 |
| knome | that is not even a question | 00:22 |
| Drroot | New versions of Ubuntu come or not? | 00:23 |
| knome | yes, there will be a 16.04 release. | 00:24 |
| knome | for both ubuntu and xubuntu | 00:24 |
| Drroot | link? | 00:25 |
| Drroot | Stable or test? | 00:26 |
| pleia2 | link for what? | 00:26 |
| pleia2 | the release schedule is here, it's not out yet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule | 00:26 |
| knome | Drroot, what's your native language? | 00:26 |
| Drroot | im persian :D | 00:26 |
| knome | !farsi | Drroot | 00:27 |
| ubottu | Drroot: #ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast. #ubuntu-ir برای فارسی زبانان میباشد که کانال رسمی گروه ایرانی اوبونتو است. | 00:27 |
| knome | Drroot, would that help? | 00:27 |
| Drroot | @ubottu tnx ! | 00:29 |
| meetingology | Drroot: Error: "ubottu" is not a valid command. | 00:29 |
| Drroot | How to change the color of all XUbuntu Fonts? | 00:32 |
| knome | Drroot, this is the developer channel for xubuntu, you should ask #xubuntu (or if you think english might be too hard for you, the farsi channel where they should be able to help you with xubuntu as well) | 00:34 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: update to appstream this morning - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/244514979/Screenshot_2016-03-01_07-54-07.png | 07:55 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: :o | 11:09 |
| bluesabre | knome, slickymaster: Slide feedback... | 12:01 |
| bluesabre | Slide 1. Welcome to Xubuntu: Since we have Ubuntu, Xfce, and Xubuntu on there, maybe we could have links or popovers with descriptions on hover? | 12:01 |
| bluesabre | Slide 2. Ready to go! I think the current app list is fine. Not really sure if anything can be improved here. | 12:01 |
| bluesabre | Slide 3. Personalize your computer: Currently features mugshot, maybe we can do something else here? Also, very similar to slide 5 "Make the desktop your own" | 12:01 |
| bluesabre | Slide 4. The Xubuntu desktop: Shows info about the panel. This one is fine. If we want to have a little version branding, we could override the time displayed to be release version (21 Apr, 16:04) | 12:01 |
| bluesabre | Slide 5. Make the desktop your own: Shows menulibre. Outdated screenshot. Maybe time to feature a different app now? | 12:01 |
| bluesabre | Slide 6. Help & Support... A-OK | 12:01 |
| bluesabre | Slide 7. Thank you! All good here, I like the animal feature | 12:01 |
| bluesabre | Other thoughts: For slides with multiple apps, we could do a mini fade slideshow of the apps mentioned. I really like the the popovers that are displayed on the bottom when hovering. Maybe we could have a slide on contributing? | 12:01 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: so at least gs is working now - just not showing featured and editors picks | 12:29 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: yes. Managed to list uninstalled apps, install an app, launch it, and remove it | 12:42 |
| bluesabre | progress :) | 12:42 |
| flocculant | yep | 12:42 |
| flocculant | I noticed that the remove option was only available if I tried to install something already installed | 12:42 |
| bluesabre | sounds right | 12:49 |
| knome | bluesabre, thanks | 13:07 |
| knome | bluesabre, actually re: menulibre and mugshot, it might be time to throw them as articles on the website; we even have this article series "the small details" planned, those would be great there | 13:07 |
| knome | bluesabre, and for the mini fade slideshow, yeah, or even make a slide slideshow to give the user the feeling that we are actually progressing all the time | 13:08 |
| knome | http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-1604-slideshow | 13:13 |
| knome | copied bluesabre's comments over already | 13:14 |
| knome | bluesabre, maybe you want to copy-paste the lines there again so we can see it on your own color :P | 13:15 |
| knome | bbabl | 13:49 |
| flocculant | evening krytarik | 18:40 |
| knome | he flocculant | 18:51 |
| flocculant | he knome | 18:52 |
| flocculant | good job there's no-one nicked man | 18:53 |
| knome | ;P | 18:53 |
| knome | flocculant, you might want to look at the recent (1min) revision of https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-doc/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-1604 | 18:55 |
| knome | for something - at least - new | 18:55 |
| knome | the order appears to be bollock | 18:55 |
| knome | +s | 18:55 |
| knome | but nvm that | 18:55 |
| knome | just look at it! | 18:55 |
| flocculant | :p | 18:56 |
| knome | (and i know some slides are borked) | 18:56 |
| flocculant | I hope you're teaching please to the junior ;) | 18:56 |
| knome | please? what's that? unheard concept to me.. | 18:56 |
| flocculant | like the support slide | 19:06 |
| knome | yeah, looking for more airyness there | 19:06 |
| knome | we don't need it to be cramped full of information | 19:06 |
| flocculant | I still think we could contribute slide | 19:07 |
| knome | yeah | 19:08 |
| knome | we probably should look at the content for the current ones too | 19:08 |
| knome | again, i'm "mostly" interested in the looks | 19:09 |
| flocculant | :) | 19:09 |
| flocculant | certainly need to look at content now there are 2 gone | 19:23 |
| flocculant | makes what's left look a bit like an afterthought | 19:23 |
| knome | sure | 19:24 |
| knome | and i don't disagree with a full slide dedicated to contribution | 19:24 |
| Nairwolf | hi everyone ;) Flocculant, I didn't have time to test upgrade yet, I should be able to do it tomorrow, I think | 19:25 |
| flocculant | Nairwolf: thanks for thinking of it - though I've called a halt to upgrade testing atm | 19:25 |
| Nairwolf | oh, ok | 19:26 |
| Nairwolf | as you want | 19:26 |
| flocculant | it'll be back :) | 19:26 |
| knome | ...and you will know when as you follow the devel mailing list | 19:27 |
| knome | ...right? | 19:27 |
| flocculant | knome: any idea why changes to docs bp don't get notified as a mail? | 19:28 |
| knome | nope | 19:29 |
| Nairwolf | knome: yes, I'm following xubuntu-devel ;) | 19:29 |
| knome | flocculant, hmm, maybe; you aren't a member of the assignee team | 19:30 |
| knome | flocculant, you can subscribe from the blueprint page though | 19:30 |
| flocculant | ? | 19:30 |
| knome | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-x-docs | 19:30 |
| flocculant | I don't subscribe to any of them - I get mails about changes to all the other ones | 19:30 |
| knome | even dev? | 19:31 |
| knome | and art? | 19:31 |
| flocculant | not that one | 19:31 |
| knome | see, either you are the drafter or the assignee (or part of the team that's the assignee) for the rest of them | 19:31 |
| flocculant | or that - but then I never expect to see anything from -art | 19:31 |
| flocculant | oh ok | 19:32 |
| knome | i would think that is it.. | 19:32 |
| flocculant | I guess so | 19:33 |
| flocculant | I assume you saw I added pdf's then :D | 19:33 |
| knome | i guess | 19:34 |
| flocculant | that's not something you can guess - you did or didn't :p | 19:34 |
| flocculant | I guess | 19:34 |
| knome | i guess you're right | 19:35 |
| flocculant | ha ha | 19:35 |
| knome | flocculant, another fancy push :P | 20:48 |
| flocculant | :) | 20:54 |
| knome | slickymaster, ping me if you happen to be around at some point. | 22:14 |
| slickymaster | right here, knome | 22:43 |
| knome | good good | 23:01 |
| knome | slickymaster, check out this: https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-doc/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-1604 | 23:02 |
| slickymaster | branching it, knome | 23:06 |
| slickymaster | knome, the Ubuntu, Xfce and Xubuntu icons are too big and go off the slide frame | 23:21 |
| knome | sigh | 23:21 |
| knome | just dismiss *obvious* breakage | 23:21 |
| slickymaster | ok | 23:21 |
| knome | there's many nice new things there, focus on them :P | 23:22 |
| slickymaster | I know, I'll get there | 23:22 |
| slickymaster | continuing | 23:22 |
| slickymaster | why not chnage the italic in 'Try Xubuntu' in the first slide for bold | 23:22 |
| slickymaster | ? | 23:22 |
| knome | well, we can do that... | 23:23 |
| slickymaster | it doesn't 'feel' right, whne reading the setence | 23:23 |
| slickymaster | * when | 23:23 |
| * knome shrugs | 23:23 | |
| knome | if you aren't running with that mode, bold might feel weird | 23:23 |
| knome | but please go on :P | 23:23 |
| slickymaster | third slide | 23:24 |
| slickymaster | is that horizontal scrool going to do something? | 23:24 |
| slickymaster | the one in the top | 23:24 |
| knome | i don't have a horizontal scrollbar... | 23:24 |
| knome | (or in other words, no, but let's try to make sure it doesn't appear) | 23:25 |
| slickymaster | Help & Support slide | 23:26 |
| slickymaster | what do you think about placing the 'Other resources' section right aligned? | 23:27 |
| knome | maybe. | 23:27 |
| knome | but you need to see the next slide to appreciate the empty space | 23:27 |
| slickymaster | ah | 23:27 |
| slickymaster | you're right | 23:27 |
| slickymaster | the best one so far, IMO | 23:28 |
| knome | mhm | 23:28 |
| slickymaster | love this one | 23:28 |
| knome | of course, it has the most effects and graphic stuff :P | 23:28 |
| slickymaster | but that's what catches people's attention | 23:29 |
| knome | yep, of course | 23:29 |
| slickymaster | Like the graphical aspect of the following one | 23:29 |
| knome | good | 23:29 |
| knome | that slide probably still needs something | 23:29 |
| slickymaster | yes | 23:30 |
| slickymaster | but not text | 23:30 |
| knome | depends on the text, but not much at least | 23:30 |
| slickymaster | is it possible to have some sort of popups when hovering the possible ways to contribute? | 23:31 |
| slickymaster | artwork, documentation, testing | 23:31 |
| knome | yeah, that's possible | 23:31 |
| slickymaster | that could be a possibility | 23:31 |
| knome | though we have to take the amount of time the slide is shown by default into account | 23:32 |
| slickymaster | yes | 23:32 |
| knome | one thing that would be really cool IMO on that page was some photos of the team | 23:32 |
| knome | but unfortunately those are few and far between | 23:32 |
| slickymaster | what type of photos? | 23:33 |
| knome | and privacy issues and more | 23:33 |
| knome | "what type of photos?", asks he knowingly | 23:33 |
| slickymaster | the last one could also get something extra | 23:33 |
| slickymaster | :) | 23:33 |
| knome | yes, the xenial | 23:33 |
| slickymaster | that's it | 23:33 |
| knome | probably full height | 23:33 |
| knome | i mean, taking the whole slide | 23:34 |
| slickymaster | yes | 23:34 |
| knome | and align the text to the left side | 23:34 |
| knome | for the apps slide | 23:34 |
| knome | i was thinking showing bigger app icons | 23:34 |
| slickymaster | in the second slide? | 23:34 |
| knome | then the app names/descriptions could fade in | 23:34 |
| knome | yeah | 23:34 |
| slickymaster | I like that option | 23:34 |
| knome | or the images could also fade in | 23:35 |
| knome | quickly | 23:35 |
| slickymaster | the fade in | 23:35 |
| knome | not all at the same time, but in a similar fashion as the bubbles on the irc slide | 23:35 |
| knome | but even faster | 23:35 |
| slickymaster | I think we've talked about that 2 releases ago | 23:35 |
| knome | maybe | 23:35 |
| knome | so for the first slide | 23:35 |
| knome | now that you've seen the rest | 23:36 |
| knome | do you have some ideas? | 23:36 |
| slickymaster | what about mentioning the contributor docs? | 23:36 |
| knome | yeah, can do that | 23:36 |
| slickymaster | before startiong over slide by slid | 23:36 |
| slickymaster | +e | 23:36 |
| slickymaster | maybe you cab juggle it in the fourth slide | 23:36 |
| slickymaster | ok, so form the start | 23:37 |
| slickymaster | first slide | 23:37 |
| knome | to the contribution slide "Once you are done figuring out what you want to help with, the *Contributor Documentation* can help you get started." | 23:37 |
| slickymaster | yes | 23:37 |
| slickymaster | but let's start from the beginning | 23:38 |
| knome | yeah | 23:38 |
| knome | we could do something there along the lines of the mouse later | 23:38 |
| slickymaster | I'd change the first setence | 23:38 |
| knome | eg. something spanning those two slides | 23:38 |
| knome | i've been thinking about some kind of arrow, but haven't figured out what would be nice yet | 23:39 |
| slickymaster | to "Congratulations for choosing to install Xu.... | 23:39 |
| slickymaster | wait, what do you mean by spanning those two slides? | 23:39 |
| knome | see the support slides | 23:39 |
| knome | and the mouse at the bottom | 23:40 |
| knome | guess you missed that cool feature there :P | 23:40 |
| slickymaster | are you referring to the arrows in the bottom right to navigate back and forth? | 23:41 |
| knome | no | 23:41 |
| knome | the mouse art | 23:41 |
| knome | on the first slide you see the tail | 23:41 |
| slickymaster | ah, now I see it | 23:41 |
| knome | and on the second slide you see the nose | 23:42 |
| knome | yeah, isn't it nice :P | 23:42 |
| slickymaster | yes it is | 23:42 |
| knome | ties the two slides together nicely | 23:42 |
| slickymaster | exactly | 23:42 |
| knome | unless your eyes are made out of wood | 23:42 |
| slickymaster | damn your designer eyes | 23:42 |
| knome | haha | 23:42 |
| knome | not designer eyes | 23:42 |
| knome | just eyes with any sight left | 23:42 |
| knome | ;) | 23:42 |
| slickymaster | yeah, the first three slides lack that | 23:43 |
| knome | yep | 23:43 |
| knome | and tbh, the panel slide, while it's useful, is not really working like that | 23:43 |
| slickymaster | what is escaping you? | 23:43 |
| knome | and i'm not referring the title being at the bottom | 23:43 |
| knome | i kind of like that we're challenging the user | 23:43 |
| knome | because otherwise it's a boring slideshow | 23:44 |
| slickymaster | yes | 23:44 |
| knome | doesn't the slide feel a bit too cramped? | 23:44 |
| knome | maybe it's something related to the black boxes | 23:44 |
| slickymaster | well, I wouldn't go so far | 23:44 |
| slickymaster | but it kind of diverges from the rest in some aspects | 23:45 |
| knome | yes | 23:45 |
| knome | it *is* cramped compared to the rest :P | 23:45 |
| slickymaster | lol | 23:45 |
| slickymaster | alright, cramped | 23:45 |
| slickymaster | but let's get back to the first one | 23:45 |
| knome | sure | 23:45 |
| knome | i'm working on the app slide as we speak | 23:46 |
| slickymaster | I think the icons are too big | 23:46 |
| knome | and the artwork has been used since 2012 | 23:46 |
| slickymaster | and I'm not talking about breakage | 23:46 |
| knome | which is why i didn't bother aligning it | 23:46 |
| slickymaster | but their size is way to big | 23:47 |
| knome | i think it's "OK" informative, but otoh, it doesn't tell too much | 23:47 |
| slickymaster | lost you now | 23:47 |
| slickymaster | are talking about the text in the first slide? | 23:47 |
| knome | the artwork | 23:47 |
| knome | i mean it does kind of explain what xubuntu is | 23:47 |
| knome | in a very black and white way, but still | 23:48 |
| slickymaster | ah, that's what I was also talking about | 23:48 |
| knome | i know :P | 23:48 |
| knome | that's why i also talked about it... | 23:48 |
| slickymaster | I agree with you | 23:48 |
| knome | so it's not essential to have it | 23:48 |
| slickymaster | but that's has been the universal xubuntu equation since I remember | 23:48 |
| knome | but the reason why it is there is because we haven't come up with a better alternative | 23:48 |
| knome | except if you interpret it literally, it's wrong | 23:49 |
| knome | (but let's not go into that discussion...) | 23:49 |
| slickymaster | lol | 23:49 |
| knome | mostly because we can't explain what xubuntu is in one slide | 23:49 |
| knome | especially not the one that starts the slideshow | 23:49 |
| slickymaster | is it (javascript speaking) possible to have some type of animation with those icons? | 23:50 |
| knome | yes | 23:50 |
| slickymaster | why not try that | 23:50 |
| knome | but please remember we are doing animation with icons on the next slide | 23:50 |
| slickymaster | my idea is that instead of three static icons we could place that equation animated | 23:51 |
| slickymaster | the ubuntu and xfce icons interacting to produce the xubuntu icon | 23:51 |
| knome | i was thinking about that | 23:52 |
| knome | but you know what i ended up thinking | 23:52 |
| knome | it would look like the circle of friends enclosed and decapitated the mouse | 23:52 |
| knome | NOT | 23:52 |
| knome | THAT | 23:52 |
| slickymaster | it doesn't have to be nothing too fancy, just give it some | 23:52 |
| slickymaster | ahahahaha | 23:52 |
| slickymaster | sort of motion | 23:52 |
| knome | you have to convince me more before i try something like that :P | 23:53 |
| slickymaster | well, we're trying to detach ourselves from our previous concept of slideshows | 23:53 |
| knome | yes | 23:53 |
| knome | so why not get rid of the U+X=XU | 23:54 |
| slickymaster | and we can achive that just with the three icons | 23:54 |
| knome | but then we are saying the same thing, in a not so clear way | 23:55 |
| slickymaster | it doesn't have to be a moving Ubu icon interacting with a xfce icon to produce a xub icon | 23:55 |
| knome | i understand what you are saying | 23:55 |
| knome | but i'm not convinced :P | 23:56 |
| slickymaster | we can, for example have a endeless circular motion between the first two with the third in the middle | 23:56 |
| knome | :D | 23:56 |
| slickymaster | like two electrons gravitating it's nucleuos | 23:56 |
| knome | that would make flocculant puke | 23:56 |
| slickymaster | ahahhaha | 23:56 |
| slickymaster | most probably | 23:56 |
| slickymaster | but you get what I mean | 23:57 |
| slickymaster | it doesn't have to be an animated equiation | 23:57 |
| slickymaster | * equation | 23:57 |
| knome | lol | 23:57 |
| knome | yeah | 23:57 |
| knome | the animation can be something more subtlr | 23:57 |
| knome | subtle | 23:57 |
| slickymaster | exactly | 23:57 |
| knome | or it can even be something like the mouse | 23:57 |
| knome | that kind of doesn't have anything to do with the content | 23:58 |
| slickymaster | exactly, but it's still there | 23:58 |
| bluesabre | evennnnning | 23:58 |
| slickymaster | evening bluesabre | 23:58 |
| bluesabre | hey slickymaster | 23:58 |
| slickymaster | haven't yet saw your suggestions | 23:58 |
| knome | slickymaster, they are in the pad | 23:58 |
| slickymaster | url, pretty please | 23:59 |
| knome | http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-1604-slideshow | 23:59 |
| bluesabre | was just about to paste that | 23:59 |
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