[00:20] Hello [00:21] 'lo [00:22] 16.04 relealse? [00:22] that is not even a question [00:23] New versions of Ubuntu come or not? [00:24] yes, there will be a 16.04 release. [00:24] for both ubuntu and xubuntu [00:25] link? [00:26] Stable or test? [00:26] link for what? [00:26] the release schedule is here, it's not out yet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule [00:26] Drroot, what's your native language? [00:26] im persian :D [00:27] !farsi | Drroot [00:27] Drroot: #ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast. #ubuntu-ir برای فارسی زبانان می‌باشد که کانال رسمی گروه ایرانی اوبونتو است. [00:27] Drroot, would that help? [00:29] @ubottu tnx ! [00:29] Drroot: Error: "ubottu" is not a valid command. [00:32] How to change the color of all XUbuntu Fonts? [00:34] Drroot, this is the developer channel for xubuntu, you should ask #xubuntu (or if you think english might be too hard for you, the farsi channel where they should be able to help you with xubuntu as well) [07:55] bluesabre: update to appstream this morning - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/244514979/Screenshot_2016-03-01_07-54-07.png [11:09] flocculant: :o [12:01] knome, slickymaster: Slide feedback... [12:01] Slide 1. Welcome to Xubuntu: Since we have Ubuntu, Xfce, and Xubuntu on there, maybe we could have links or popovers with descriptions on hover? [12:01] Slide 2. Ready to go! I think the current app list is fine. Not really sure if anything can be improved here. [12:01] Slide 3. Personalize your computer: Currently features mugshot, maybe we can do something else here? Also, very similar to slide 5 "Make the desktop your own" [12:01] Slide 4. The Xubuntu desktop: Shows info about the panel. This one is fine. If we want to have a little version branding, we could override the time displayed to be release version (21 Apr, 16:04) [12:01] Slide 5. Make the desktop your own: Shows menulibre. Outdated screenshot. Maybe time to feature a different app now? [12:01] Slide 6. Help & Support... A-OK [12:01] Slide 7. Thank you! All good here, I like the animal feature [12:01] Other thoughts: For slides with multiple apps, we could do a mini fade slideshow of the apps mentioned. I really like the the popovers that are displayed on the bottom when hovering. Maybe we could have a slide on contributing? [12:29] bluesabre: so at least gs is working now - just not showing featured and editors picks [12:42] flocculant: yes. Managed to list uninstalled apps, install an app, launch it, and remove it [12:42] progress :) [12:42] yep [12:42] I noticed that the remove option was only available if I tried to install something already installed [12:49] sounds right [13:07] bluesabre, thanks [13:07] bluesabre, actually re: menulibre and mugshot, it might be time to throw them as articles on the website; we even have this article series "the small details" planned, those would be great there [13:08] bluesabre, and for the mini fade slideshow, yeah, or even make a slide slideshow to give the user the feeling that we are actually progressing all the time [13:13] http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-1604-slideshow [13:14] copied bluesabre's comments over already [13:15] bluesabre, maybe you want to copy-paste the lines there again so we can see it on your own color :P [13:49] bbabl [18:40] evening krytarik [18:51] he flocculant [18:52] he knome [18:53] good job there's no-one nicked man [18:53] ;P [18:55] flocculant, you might want to look at the recent (1min) revision of https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-doc/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-1604 [18:55] for something - at least - new [18:55] the order appears to be bollock [18:55] +s [18:55] but nvm that [18:55] just look at it! [18:56] :p [18:56] (and i know some slides are borked) [18:56] I hope you're teaching please to the junior ;) [18:56] please? what's that? unheard concept to me.. [19:06] like the support slide [19:06] yeah, looking for more airyness there [19:06] we don't need it to be cramped full of information [19:07] I still think we could contribute slide [19:08] yeah [19:08] we probably should look at the content for the current ones too [19:09] again, i'm "mostly" interested in the looks [19:09] :) [19:23] certainly need to look at content now there are 2 gone [19:23] makes what's left look a bit like an afterthought [19:24] sure [19:24] and i don't disagree with a full slide dedicated to contribution [19:25] hi everyone ;) Flocculant, I didn't have time to test upgrade yet, I should be able to do it tomorrow, I think [19:25] Nairwolf: thanks for thinking of it - though I've called a halt to upgrade testing atm [19:26] oh, ok [19:26] as you want [19:26] it'll be back :) [19:27] ...and you will know when as you follow the devel mailing list [19:27] ...right? [19:28] knome: any idea why changes to docs bp don't get notified as a mail? [19:29] nope [19:29] knome: yes, I'm following xubuntu-devel ;) [19:30] flocculant, hmm, maybe; you aren't a member of the assignee team [19:30] flocculant, you can subscribe from the blueprint page though [19:30] ? [19:30] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-x-docs [19:30] I don't subscribe to any of them - I get mails about changes to all the other ones [19:31] even dev? [19:31] and art? [19:31] not that one [19:31] see, either you are the drafter or the assignee (or part of the team that's the assignee) for the rest of them [19:31] or that - but then I never expect to see anything from -art [19:32] oh ok [19:32] i would think that is it.. [19:33] I guess so [19:33] I assume you saw I added pdf's then :D [19:34] i guess [19:34] that's not something you can guess - you did or didn't :p [19:34] I guess [19:35] i guess you're right [19:35] ha ha [20:48] flocculant, another fancy push :P [20:54] :) [22:14] slickymaster, ping me if you happen to be around at some point. [22:43] right here, knome [23:01] good good [23:02] slickymaster, check out this: https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-doc/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-1604 [23:06] branching it, knome [23:21] knome, the Ubuntu, Xfce and Xubuntu icons are too big and go off the slide frame [23:21] sigh [23:21] just dismiss *obvious* breakage [23:21] ok [23:22] there's many nice new things there, focus on them :P [23:22] I know, I'll get there [23:22] continuing [23:22] why not chnage the italic in 'Try Xubuntu' in the first slide for bold [23:22] ? [23:23] well, we can do that... [23:23] it doesn't 'feel' right, whne reading the setence [23:23] * when [23:23] * knome shrugs [23:23] if you aren't running with that mode, bold might feel weird [23:23] but please go on :P [23:24] third slide [23:24] is that horizontal scrool going to do something? [23:24] the one in the top [23:24] i don't have a horizontal scrollbar... [23:25] (or in other words, no, but let's try to make sure it doesn't appear) [23:26] Help & Support slide [23:27] what do you think about placing the 'Other resources' section right aligned? [23:27] maybe. [23:27] but you need to see the next slide to appreciate the empty space [23:27] ah [23:27] you're right [23:28] the best one so far, IMO [23:28] mhm [23:28] love this one [23:28] of course, it has the most effects and graphic stuff :P [23:29] but that's what catches people's attention [23:29] yep, of course [23:29] Like the graphical aspect of the following one [23:29] good [23:29] that slide probably still needs something [23:30] yes [23:30] but not text [23:30] depends on the text, but not much at least [23:31] is it possible to have some sort of popups when hovering the possible ways to contribute? [23:31] artwork, documentation, testing [23:31] yeah, that's possible [23:31] that could be a possibility [23:32] though we have to take the amount of time the slide is shown by default into account [23:32] yes [23:32] one thing that would be really cool IMO on that page was some photos of the team [23:32] but unfortunately those are few and far between [23:33] what type of photos? [23:33] and privacy issues and more [23:33] "what type of photos?", asks he knowingly [23:33] the last one could also get something extra [23:33] :) [23:33] yes, the xenial [23:33] that's it [23:33] probably full height [23:34] i mean, taking the whole slide [23:34] yes [23:34] and align the text to the left side [23:34] for the apps slide [23:34] i was thinking showing bigger app icons [23:34] in the second slide? [23:34] then the app names/descriptions could fade in [23:34] yeah [23:34] I like that option [23:35] or the images could also fade in [23:35] quickly [23:35] the fade in [23:35] not all at the same time, but in a similar fashion as the bubbles on the irc slide [23:35] but even faster [23:35] I think we've talked about that 2 releases ago [23:35] maybe [23:35] so for the first slide [23:36] now that you've seen the rest [23:36] do you have some ideas? [23:36] what about mentioning the contributor docs? [23:36] yeah, can do that [23:36] before startiong over slide by slid [23:36] +e [23:36] maybe you cab juggle it in the fourth slide [23:37] ok, so form the start [23:37] first slide [23:37] to the contribution slide "Once you are done figuring out what you want to help with, the *Contributor Documentation* can help you get started." [23:37] yes [23:38] but let's start from the beginning [23:38] yeah [23:38] we could do something there along the lines of the mouse later [23:38] I'd change the first setence [23:38] eg. something spanning those two slides [23:39] i've been thinking about some kind of arrow, but haven't figured out what would be nice yet [23:39] to "Congratulations for choosing to install Xu.... [23:39] wait, what do you mean by spanning those two slides? [23:39] see the support slides [23:40] and the mouse at the bottom [23:40] guess you missed that cool feature there :P [23:41] are you referring to the arrows in the bottom right to navigate back and forth? [23:41] no [23:41] the mouse art [23:41] on the first slide you see the tail [23:41] ah, now I see it [23:42] and on the second slide you see the nose [23:42] yeah, isn't it nice :P [23:42] yes it is [23:42] ties the two slides together nicely [23:42] exactly [23:42] unless your eyes are made out of wood [23:42] damn your designer eyes [23:42] haha [23:42] not designer eyes [23:42] just eyes with any sight left [23:42] ;) [23:43] yeah, the first three slides lack that [23:43] yep [23:43] and tbh, the panel slide, while it's useful, is not really working like that [23:43] what is escaping you? [23:43] and i'm not referring the title being at the bottom [23:43] i kind of like that we're challenging the user [23:44] because otherwise it's a boring slideshow [23:44] yes [23:44] doesn't the slide feel a bit too cramped? [23:44] maybe it's something related to the black boxes [23:44] well, I wouldn't go so far [23:45] but it kind of diverges from the rest in some aspects [23:45] yes [23:45] it *is* cramped compared to the rest :P [23:45] lol [23:45] alright, cramped [23:45] but let's get back to the first one [23:45] sure [23:46] i'm working on the app slide as we speak [23:46] I think the icons are too big [23:46] and the artwork has been used since 2012 [23:46] and I'm not talking about breakage [23:46] which is why i didn't bother aligning it [23:47] but their size is way to big [23:47] i think it's "OK" informative, but otoh, it doesn't tell too much [23:47] lost you now [23:47] are talking about the text in the first slide? [23:47] the artwork [23:47] i mean it does kind of explain what xubuntu is [23:48] in a very black and white way, but still [23:48] ah, that's what I was also talking about [23:48] i know :P [23:48] that's why i also talked about it... [23:48] I agree with you [23:48] so it's not essential to have it [23:48] but that's has been the universal xubuntu equation since I remember [23:48] but the reason why it is there is because we haven't come up with a better alternative [23:49] except if you interpret it literally, it's wrong [23:49] (but let's not go into that discussion...) [23:49] lol [23:49] mostly because we can't explain what xubuntu is in one slide [23:49] especially not the one that starts the slideshow [23:50] is it (javascript speaking) possible to have some type of animation with those icons? [23:50] yes [23:50] why not try that [23:50] but please remember we are doing animation with icons on the next slide [23:51] my idea is that instead of three static icons we could place that equation animated [23:51] the ubuntu and xfce icons interacting to produce the xubuntu icon [23:52] i was thinking about that [23:52] but you know what i ended up thinking [23:52] it would look like the circle of friends enclosed and decapitated the mouse [23:52] NOT [23:52] THAT [23:52] it doesn't have to be nothing too fancy, just give it some [23:52] ahahahaha [23:52] sort of motion [23:53] you have to convince me more before i try something like that :P [23:53] well, we're trying to detach ourselves from our previous concept of slideshows [23:53] yes [23:54] so why not get rid of the U+X=XU [23:54] and we can achive that just with the three icons [23:55] but then we are saying the same thing, in a not so clear way [23:55] it doesn't have to be a moving Ubu icon interacting with a xfce icon to produce a xub icon [23:55] i understand what you are saying [23:56] but i'm not convinced :P [23:56] we can, for example have a endeless circular motion between the first two with the third in the middle [23:56] :D [23:56] like two electrons gravitating it's nucleuos [23:56] that would make flocculant puke [23:56] ahahhaha [23:56] most probably [23:57] but you get what I mean [23:57] it doesn't have to be an animated equiation [23:57] * equation [23:57] lol [23:57] yeah [23:57] the animation can be something more subtlr [23:57] subtle [23:57] exactly [23:57] or it can even be something like the mouse [23:58] that kind of doesn't have anything to do with the content [23:58] exactly, but it's still there [23:58] evennnnning [23:58] evening bluesabre [23:58] hey slickymaster [23:58] haven't yet saw your suggestions [23:58] slickymaster, they are in the pad [23:59] url, pretty please [23:59] http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-1604-slideshow [23:59] was just about to paste that