| clivejo | sgclark: I just created stable and unstable branches for spectacle, would you poke KCI into building it please? | 00:15 |
|---|---|---|
| sgclark | lol, this script takes a long time... I would prefer if we could do these all at once\ | 00:16 |
| sgclark | running.. | 00:18 |
| clivejo | Im just shouting them out as I see them | 00:21 |
| clivejo | trying to figure out what is wrong with them! | 00:22 |
| sgclark | its fine. just tired. | 00:23 |
| clivejo | kactivitymanagerd : 00:22:13 ERROR: Couldn't find any revision to build. Verify the repository and branch configuration for this job. | 00:25 |
| clivejo | whats that mean? | 00:25 |
| sgclark | clivejo: it means it cannot find the branch specified. let me look | 00:29 |
| clivejo | which branch? | 00:30 |
| clivejo | debian git or kde git | 00:30 |
| sgclark | nope it is failing @ kde git | 00:30 |
| sgclark | yep only has a master branch and it is trying to pull Plasma 5.5 | 00:32 |
| sgclark | lets see | 00:32 |
| sgclark | clivejo: I created a pull request to fix that, unfortunately blue systems aka sitter will have to accept it. So probably will not happen till tomorrow. very late on your side of the pond. | 00:50 |
| clivejo | no prob, need to hit the sack myself! | 00:51 |
| sgclark | I bet lol | 00:51 |
| clivejo | KCI is busy now anyways! | 00:51 |
| sitter | sgclark: pull requests are more bonus than anything. when you run update-projects the only thing that matters is what the yamls in your working directory say | 00:57 |
| sitter | sgclark: I think you need to rebase your branch | 00:58 |
| sgclark | oh. that I did not know | 00:58 |
| sitter | https://github.com/blue-systems/pangea-tooling/pull/2 | 00:58 |
| sitter | https://github.com/ScarlettGatelyClark/pangea-tooling/commit/5d7fc54c067665f4a4a37be64c9bb0d8485ea2ed that should not be there | 00:58 |
| sgclark | ugh I do not understand github at all | 00:59 |
| * sitter reads backlog | 00:59 | |
| sgclark | all I wanted to update was base.yaml | 00:59 |
| sitter | sgclark: gem install git-up, then use git up instead of git pull ;) | 01:00 |
| sitter | 9/10 times git up will make smarter decisions about what to do | 01:00 |
| sgclark | ok | 01:00 |
| sitter | anyway | 01:00 |
| sitter | sgclark: that change actually is wrong | 01:00 |
| sitter | kactivitymanagerd has no stable branch | 01:00 |
| sgclark | interesting | 01:00 |
| sitter | only gets one with 5.6 I presume | 01:00 |
| sgclark | I did not say stable branch. I said master | 01:01 |
| sitter | yeah, you are mapping kubuntu_*stable* to upstream master | 01:01 |
| sitter | which is conceptually wrong | 01:01 |
| sgclark | oh. | 01:01 |
| sgclark | I see the error of my ways now | 01:01 |
| sitter | the problem with that is that it will later prevent kactivitymanagerd from using the common plasma stable branch btw, so that would cause head scratching | 01:02 |
| sitter | sgclark: what you probably want to do is drop the kubuntu_stable branch from the packaging repo | 01:03 |
| sitter | and remove the jobs | 01:03 |
| sitter | ci-tooling/kci/expunge.rb might help with that | 01:03 |
| sgclark | I do not have perms to delete branches | 01:04 |
| sitter | doesn't everyone have? | 01:04 |
| sgclark | ugh | 01:04 |
| sitter | you just have to disable the hook manually first I think | 01:04 |
| sitter | ci-tooling/kci/expunge.rb --keep-merger --type stable --dist wily --dist xenial kactivitymanagerd | 01:04 |
| sitter | that should sort jenkins | 01:05 |
| sitter | (I think ;) | 01:05 |
| sgclark | my head hurts. don't we have a release manager around here?! ... I will have to look at this | 01:05 |
| sgclark | diable the hook. what does that mean exactly? | 01:06 |
| sgclark | git hook somewhere? | 01:06 |
| sitter | on git.debian.org go into the repo dir and move hooks hooks.bak | 01:06 |
| sitter | then push | 01:06 |
| sitter | then move back | 01:06 |
| sitter | or ask maxy how he does it. I don't actually recall having to move hooks out of the way | 01:07 |
| sitter | so maybe there is more to it | 01:07 |
| sgclark | I have not actually tried to delete. was just told that | 01:07 |
| sitter | sgclark: just try it xD | 01:09 |
| sgclark | yeah I will, got 50 thousand things going on. + my brain is scrambled with a migraine | 01:10 |
| sitter | if we still had a bot I'd order you some drugs | 01:11 |
| sitter | alas | 01:11 |
| ScottK | sitter: maybe a fez. | 01:11 |
| sitter | a fez does not help with a migraine silly :P | 01:12 |
| sgclark | delete was a success. now to expunge.rb | 01:15 |
| sgclark | died at lp call... investigating | 01:18 |
| sitter | sgclark: you need to setup an lp token for that | 01:19 |
| sitter | but you don't really need that anyway | 01:19 |
| sitter | jenkins happesn first | 01:19 |
| sitter | and since the jobs never created any valid builds there is nothing on lp anyway | 01:19 |
| sgclark | o | 01:19 |
| sgclark | k | 01:19 |
| sitter | sgclark: didn't the lp thingy tell you to go to some url to authenticate? | 01:21 |
| sgclark | I see it in console but it zoomed past the type done and hit enter and never opened webpage or let me type. | 01:22 |
| sgclark | like it usually would | 01:22 |
| sgclark | one sec | 01:22 |
| sitter | you have to run it again to get a new url | 01:22 |
| sitter | actaully it running past the typing input is weird | 01:23 |
| sitter | sounds buggish xd | 01:23 |
| sgclark | ran again, same error, but I thought it was not needed | 01:23 |
| sgclark | now I am confused | 01:23 |
| sitter | sgclark: yeah, but something to look into | 01:23 |
| sgclark | ok, yes I thought the skipping user input odd | 01:24 |
| sitter | https://github.com/blue-systems/pangea-tooling/blob/master/ci-tooling/lib/lp.rb#L102 | 01:25 |
| sitter | the weird thing is... even if io doesn't work that should infinite loop | 01:25 |
| sitter | unless it actually reads done that loop never ends | 01:25 |
| sitter | very peculiar | 01:25 |
| sgclark | that is the way I read it. but I never typed done lo | 01:25 |
| sgclark | oh | 01:26 |
| sgclark | wait | 01:26 |
| sgclark | lp.rb:104:in `gets' No such file or directory | 01:27 |
| * sitter watching tv program in mandarin. takes forever. nothing but waiting to do | 01:27 | |
| sitter | sgclark: oO | 01:27 |
| sgclark | @ rb_sysopen | 01:27 |
| sitter | sgclark: do you pipe this command something? | 01:27 |
| sgclark | sitter: I copied your command above | 01:28 |
| sitter | that sounds like it can't open stdin for reading... wtf... | 01:28 |
| sgclark | (05:04:54 PM) sitter: ci-tooling/kci/expunge.rb --keep-merger --type stable --dist wily --dist xenial kactivitymanagerd | 01:28 |
| sgclark | umm actually it seems like it is trying to open kactivitymanagerd hah. let me paste this for you | 01:29 |
| sitter | aaaaaaaaaaah | 01:30 |
| sitter | I think we leave kactivitymanagerd in ARGV | 01:30 |
| sitter | and gets then reads that | 01:30 |
| sitter | sgclark: run irb | 01:30 |
| sgclark | sitter: paste.ubuntu.com/15263932/ | 01:30 |
| sitter | that brings up a prompt | 01:30 |
| sgclark | ok | 01:30 |
| sitter | then paste this https://paste.kde.org/pn7julrmj | 01:30 |
| sitter | then you should get the auth business and it should wait for your done input ;) | 01:31 |
| sitter | http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.0/Kernel.html#method-i-gets xD | 01:31 |
| sitter | we leave the dangling stuff in ARGV and gets then pops it and gets all confused ^^ | 01:32 |
| sgclark | yep that was it | 01:32 |
| sitter | will fix tomororw | 01:32 |
| sitter | somewhat for a corner case | 01:32 |
| sgclark | lol I am a corner case! always and forever | 01:33 |
| sgclark | ok that is fixed now. thanks | 01:34 |
| sitter | also wrote down for future admisn https://github.com/blue-systems/pangea-tooling/wiki/Launchpad-Config | 01:36 |
| sgclark | thanks! | 01:36 |
| sgclark | so you can toss my pull request. thanks for the help. | 01:37 |
| ScottK | sitter: I thought a fez helped with everything. | 01:58 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:44 |
| clivejo | morning lordievader | 09:45 |
| lordievader | Hey clivejo, how are you? | 09:45 |
| clivejo | sgclark: mind if I stage plasma 5.5.5? | 09:45 |
| clivejo | cold and sleepy! | 09:45 |
| clivejo | lordievader: what about you? | 09:57 |
| lordievader | Doing good here, fighting with kdeconnect. | 09:58 |
| clivejo | oh? | 10:00 |
| lordievader | My kio is probably missing something, when trying to browse the phone it complains that it doesn't know kdeconnect. | 10:01 |
| lordievader | Guess, I | 10:02 |
| clivejo | Im using a package from KCI, seems to be working fine | 10:02 |
| lordievader | I'll use Airdroid for file transfer. | 10:02 |
| lordievader | clivejo: I'm running Gentoo ;) | 10:02 |
| clivejo | ah | 10:03 |
| soee | clivejo: she probable sleeping right now :) | 10:03 |
| soee | yofel: can we stage 5.5.5 ? | 10:03 |
| clivejo | soee: he told me to ask sgclark | 10:04 |
| soee | ah.. ok :) | 10:05 |
| * clivejo considers staging it locally | 10:06 | |
| clivejo | or maybe upload to my PPA instead | 10:07 |
| soee | maybe i don't know about something but why it can't be uploaded to staging just likt this? :) | 10:09 |
| soee | does ot break anything ? | 10:09 |
| clivejo | The release managers need to know all thats going on for future planning | 10:10 |
| clivejo | if packages needed for a release (archive) havent been copied out a new version deletes the old one | 10:11 |
| clivejo | someone has to keep track of it all | 10:12 |
| clivejo | and all this is voluntary and done by very busy people in their spare time | 10:13 |
| soee | ok so we have something waiting for upload to archive but then shouldn't it be pending in testing ppa and staging should be free for next version upload ? | 10:14 |
| clivejo | soee: Im not sure, I havent been at this long enough to know the potential pitfalls | 10:15 |
| clivejo | all i know is that this FFE is a major log jam for development | 10:15 |
| soee | yup :) also i don't get it why we have to wait so long for the response | 10:16 |
| clivejo | me neither | 10:16 |
| soee | are we sure they get our messages ? | 10:16 |
| clivejo | soee: I have no idea | 10:16 |
| clivejo | As sgclark is on the UCC I assume she would know who to poke and so forth, its something Ive never done before and dont understand the process | 10:20 |
| valorie | !ffe | 10:22 |
| ubottu | Feature Freeze Exception. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess for the freeze exception process. | 10:22 |
| clivejo | valorie: are you up late or up early?!? | 10:23 |
| valorie | too late | 10:24 |
| clivejo | eakkk | 10:24 |
| clivejo | get some sleep! | 10:24 |
| clivejo | you have a meeting in the morning! | 10:24 |
| valorie | gads, that has so many steps | 10:24 |
| valorie | well, I'll set my alarm for that, but no promises | 10:24 |
| clivejo | what is the process for getting software into the archive? | 10:26 |
| valorie | sponsorship | 10:27 |
| valorie | which is why some of the kubuntu devels also became/will become MOTU | 10:27 |
| clivejo | I kinda feel like Im wasting my time packaging digikam calligra etc as it doesnt seem to get into the archive | 10:27 |
| valorie | Ubuntu Developer is as difficult as Debian Developer I think | 10:28 |
| valorie | ? | 10:28 |
| valorie | you are getting it to our users | 10:28 |
| clivejo | not much use in my PPA! | 10:28 |
| valorie | yes, I guess you have to get testing first? | 10:28 |
| valorie | that FFe page gives a link to the sponsorship process | 10:29 |
| valorie | I believe it's pretty much the same in Debian | 10:29 |
| valorie | you make your package and then ask for sponsorship, and the sponsor DD works with you to make it perfect | 10:30 |
| valorie | the more you do that, the closer you get to Developer status | 10:30 |
| clivejo | sitter: ^^ that kpat build had an SSLError, is that a LP problem? | 11:27 |
| clivejo | also, is there a way to push something to the front of the queue | 11:31 |
| kfunk | asked this yesterday already? will there be an update to kdepim in near future? even 16.10 is stuck at 5.0.2 afaics | 11:55 |
| clivejo | kfunk: well apps 16.04 are due out in April | 12:01 |
| clivejo | and there looks to be some big changes in PIM | 12:01 |
| kfunk | ugh, and I meant 16.04 of course :) | 12:02 |
| clivejo | I mean KDE Applications 16.04, not Kubuntu 16.04(Xenial) | 12:02 |
| kfunk | right, I was referring to the Xenial version of course. | 12:03 |
| * kfunk is heavily confused about kdepim's release schedule. it's supposed to be part of kde apps, right? but I don't see source tarballs of kdepim related apps in any of 15.08 and 15.12, for instance | 12:07 | |
| kfunk | e.g. no kontact here: http://download.kde.org/stable/applications/15.12.2/src/ | 12:07 |
| clivejo | its bunched up into a few different tars | 12:08 |
| clivejo | kdepim, kdepim-runtime, kdepimlibs | 12:09 |
| clivejo | kfunk: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/kontact | 12:10 |
| clivejo | built by kdepim | 12:10 |
| kfunk | ah, right. sure | 12:11 |
| kfunk | ok, right. 15.08.2 is what I have right now (on xenial), which has the internal version 5.0.2. | 12:12 |
| clivejo | I dont know why or what that internal version is all about! | 12:12 |
| kfunk | well, doesn't matter indeed. it's just what `kontact --version` spits out here. | 12:14 |
| kfunk | so, I guess the correct question would be: why's Xenial still stuck with KDE Apps 15.08; and when will it get 15.12 or 16.04? :) | 12:18 |
| clivejo | kfunk: Because KDEPIM 15.12.2 has caused us problems | 12:21 |
| clivejo | and Xenial is now in Feature Freeze | 12:21 |
| kfunk | :\ | 12:22 |
| clivejo | so we cant add it, even if we wanted to! | 12:22 |
| kfunk | that... sucks. | 12:22 |
| clivejo | We have a FFE open, but no reply yet | 12:22 |
| clivejo | we were going to release apps 15.12.2 without PIM | 12:22 |
| kfunk | question: does korganizer work for you at all atm? | 12:23 |
| clivejo | kontact works for me, yes | 12:23 |
| kfunk | korganizer, to be exact. it just crashes here when opening | 12:23 |
| kfunk | and this crash is confirmed by multiple other users in BKO | 12:23 |
| clivejo | what version of kdepim is installed? | 12:23 |
| kfunk | 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 | 12:24 |
| clivejo | same as mine | 12:25 |
| kfunk | no crash? | 12:25 |
| kfunk | when starting `korganizer`? | 12:25 |
| kfunk | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=352256 fwiw | 12:25 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 352256 in general "Korganizer / Kontakt crash [EventViews::AgendaView::placeDecorations]" [Crash,Confirmed] | 12:25 |
| clivejo | nope, opens Kontact in Calendar view | 12:26 |
| clivejo | and I can see all my appointments and Kolab tasks | 12:26 |
| kfunk | ok. if ubuntu is really stuck at 15.08.2 I need to dig into the issue and patch this particular version. korganizer is unusable right now. | 12:28 |
| kfunk | sigh | 12:28 |
| clivejo | what version plasma and frameworks you on? | 12:29 |
| clivejo | does kmail work? | 12:30 |
| kfunk | yep | 12:31 |
| clivejo | sounds like might be a missing dep for calendar | 12:31 |
| kfunk | akregator is crashy as well, though. (didn't dig into it yet, though. just happens for one particular feed entry) | 12:32 |
| clivejo | akregator has caused me problems | 12:32 |
| kfunk | I'll check... I thought I'd be just happily receiving updates and the issues would vanish, but apparently that's not the case ;) | 12:32 |
| clivejo | but only certain feeds due to a weird SSL cert | 12:32 |
| kfunk | I've already patched akonadi-server locally (because it has a pretty serious issue with unread-mails counting when ignored threads are involved...) | 12:34 |
| kfunk | tl;dr: lots of issues in KDEPIM 15.08.2 | 12:34 |
| clivejo | kfunk: upstream are doing a lot of work moving libs out of kdepimlibs into akonadi | 12:34 |
| clivejo | kfunk: do you know how the packages interact? | 12:36 |
| kfunk | roughly | 12:37 |
| kfunk | honestly, I just want my kdepim to work. I'm busy enough with other things :\ | 12:37 |
| clivejo | kfunk: check out http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.12.1_xenial.html | 12:37 |
| clivejo | thats our progress on apps 15.12.1 | 12:37 |
| clivejo | basically the red packages are what we are having issues with | 12:38 |
| clivejo | Ive just moved in KCI builds of libkolab and libkolabxml and retrying kdepim-runtime against that | 12:39 |
| clivejo | Ill go have some lunch while that builds | 12:41 |
| * clivejo fingers crossed | 12:41 | |
| kfunk | clivejo: where's the FFE? I'd like to subscribe | 12:41 |
| kfunk | indeed. | 12:41 |
| kfunk | thanks for the hard work | 12:41 |
| clivejo | sgclark filed it, cant remember which package it was against :/ | 12:43 |
| clivejo | Bug 1547571 | 12:46 |
| ubottu | bug 1547571 in meta-kde (Ubuntu) "[FFe] KDE Meta" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547571 | 12:46 |
| clivejo | I think thats it | 12:47 |
| justin_time | Hi, I have a FFe for the tomahawk-player package, now. I'm looking for a sponsor for this package. The Kubuntu Developers maintained the old tomahawk package and so could you sponsor this package, too? This package replace the old tomahawk package because of a name conflict with a different tomahawk package in the debian sources. | 13:09 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 13:34 |
| soee | hiho BluesKaj | 13:36 |
| BluesKaj | hey soee | 13:38 |
| kipropesque | hello | 14:03 |
| yofel | justin_time: the maintainer field is just plain wrong. We did look after it a long time ago, but nobody here has upload permissions for tomahawk right now. That's why I pointed you to the MOTU team which is the fallback maintainer in this case. | 14:39 |
| yofel | so, it's not that we're ignoring you, we just can't help you | 14:39 |
| justin_time | yofel: oh ok, thank you for the explanation! But how can it be, that the maintainer has no upload permission? | 14:40 |
| ScottK | justin_time: The Kubuntu team has had a lot of turnover recently. | 14:41 |
| yofel | justin_time: upload permissions aren't by-maintainer, but by package set. And the package is not in our "supported" package lsit | 14:41 |
| ScottK | Permissions are individual based, not team based. | 14:41 |
| justin_time | ah ok, I thought they are team based. | 14:41 |
| justin_time | thanks for your help anyway! I try to find a sponsor on ubuntu-motu, but this is quite difficult! | 14:42 |
| yofel | the update is properly listed in the sponsorship queue at least. So it's really finding someone for the upload | 14:43 |
| justin_time | Does anyone of you know a sponsor who could help me? | 14:45 |
| clivejo | anyone know why this failed - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/244999616/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kdepim-runtime_4%3A15.12.1-2ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa6_BUILDING.txt.gz | 14:50 |
| ScottK | clivejo: The errors start with ../../../resources/kolab/kolabhelpers.cpp:88:9: error: 'KContacts' has not been declared | 14:54 |
| ScottK | Possible missing build-depends or a header file left out. | 14:55 |
| * clivejo cries | 14:56 | |
| sgclark | yofel: can you see if kdevelop* can be a direct sync from debian | 15:39 |
| yofel | sgclark: I'll get back to you once I did | 15:52 |
| sgclark | thanks\ | 15:53 |
| sgclark | hmm framework kactvities depends on plasma kactivitymanagerd. That is going to be a nightmare.. | 16:04 |
| yofel | we will need to carefully review the versioned deps when uploading | 16:04 |
| yofel | plasma deps on frameworks, apps on frameworks, frameworks on apps, plasma on frameworks, frameworks on plasma | 16:05 |
| yofel | enjoy | 16:05 |
| sgclark | different release schedules too.. | 16:05 |
| sgclark | good grief | 16:05 |
| sitter | yofel, clivejo, sgclark: I am rolling out a new oauth gem shortly, keep an eye on possible oauth failure for the next couple of days please | 16:37 |
| sgclark | okies | 16:38 |
| tsdgeos | sgclark: it doesn't "depend" on it | 16:41 |
| tsdgeos | it's useless without it | 16:41 |
| tsdgeos | but can be built without it | 16:41 |
| tsdgeos | or that's what i understand | 16:41 |
| sgclark | ummm ok. clear as mud :) | 16:41 |
| tsdgeos | no really it's very simple | 16:42 |
| tsdgeos | but whatever | 16:42 |
| sgclark | wow. did I do something? | 16:42 |
| sgclark | or lack thereof? | 16:42 |
| tsdgeos | clear as mud :) | 16:42 |
| tsdgeos | is not a very encouraging sentence | 16:43 |
| sgclark | well I am trying to package. do we need it or not your explaination says both. | 16:43 |
| sgclark | clear as mud | 16:43 |
| sgclark | whatever. I am busy with my kde hat atm. | 16:44 |
| tsdgeos | as said | 16:44 |
| tsdgeos | wahtever | 16:44 |
| tsdgeos | and you got angry but you can watherver me ;) | 16:44 |
| sgclark | if it is useless without it, says to me it does depend on it. Ok done. moving on. thanks for your input tsdgeos. We can be friends again. | 16:46 |
| * sgclark goes for more coffee. | 16:46 | |
| genii | mmm coffee | 16:59 |
| clivejo | sgclark: regarding http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kactivities/ dont we need that package? | 17:42 |
| sgclark | of course we do. clearly something went wrong. investigating | 17:45 |
| sgclark | me and git add do not get along it seems. | 17:48 |
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| soee | Plasma 5.6 beta out :) | 18:53 |
| sgclark | heh | 18:54 |
| soee | sgclark: clivejo asked earlier if we can stage 5.5.5 | 18:56 |
| soee | are there any objections ? | 18:56 |
| sgclark | No. we need Ffe approved and this stuff in archive. Or we will have to file another and start all over. | 18:57 |
| sgclark | At this rate we will not have an xenial release. | 18:57 |
| claydoh | is there something holding up the ffe? | 19:02 |
| sgclark | ubuntu-release team | 19:02 |
| sgclark | no activity at all from them | 19:03 |
| soee | can we somehow catch them and chat with them ? | 19:03 |
| sgclark | clivejo tried without luck | 19:04 |
| ScottK | What's the bug number? | 19:04 |
| soee | so maybe we should talk with other team/group | 19:05 |
| clivejo | is there a link to Core Meeting? | 19:05 |
| soee | maybe they could get in touch with this ffe team | 19:05 |
| sgclark | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/1547571 | 19:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1547571 in meta-kde (Ubuntu) "[FFe] KDE Meta" [Critical,Confirmed] | 19:05 |
| ScottK | The "FFe team" is the Ubuntu release team. | 19:06 |
| clivejo | The only reply I got was "sending bribes to release team postal addresses usually works" | 19:06 |
| sgclark | ScottK: ^ | 19:06 |
| ScottK | sgclark: You've (the collective you) tested all this, right? | 19:06 |
| sgclark | ScottK: yep. For weeks now. | 19:07 |
| ScottK | thanks. I figured, but just checking. | 19:07 |
| clivejo | sgclark: does pim build if we drop kolab support? | 19:08 |
| ScottK | sgclark: It'd probably be good to describe the testing you've done in the bug. | 19:08 |
| sgclark | clivejo: At this time I am releasing without. If you want to try to build without kolab go ahead. | 19:08 |
| clivejo | just seems to be what debian have done | 19:09 |
| sgclark | ScottK Ok. I will asap | 19:10 |
| clivejo | does anyone know any of them to give them a personal poke? | 19:12 |
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+mugshots | 19:12 |
| soee | since few days autocomplete for commands stopped working for me ... someone can confirm this on Xenial ? | 19:13 |
| ScottK | clivejo: I just did. | 19:13 |
| clivejo | :) thanks ScottK | 19:14 |
| clivejo | sgclark: rebuild with libkolab-dev removed but its still FTBFS | 19:59 |
| clivejo | sgclark: is there any way to force a package to jump the queue and build? | 20:00 |
| sgclark | ok. removing pim from Ffe. We will have to backport when the time comes. We will point all the angry peeps upstream haha | 20:00 |
| sgclark | jump the que? in jenkins? no not without priority plugin. And I do not know enough about their setup to starting adding plugins. | 20:01 |
| clivejo | oh wait, its missing files its failing on! | 20:01 |
| sgclark | oooh | 20:02 |
| * sgclark holds on removing pim | 20:02 | |
| clivejo | the kolab stuff | 20:02 |
| clivejo | if I remove them from *.install it might just work! | 20:02 |
| clivejo | gimme a sec | 20:02 |
| sgclark | k | 20:02 |
| clivejo | and ovidiu-florin send me a podcast link! | 20:03 |
| * sgclark is watching | 20:03 | |
| clivejo | got a link?? | 20:03 |
| clivejo | Im missing it! | 20:03 |
| sgclark | on my phone :( | 20:03 |
| sgclark | google search Kubuntu podcast? | 20:04 |
| ovidiu-florin | https://youtu.be/oMimKAPRxyM | 20:05 |
| clivejo | sgclark: what happened akonadi? | 20:09 |
| sgclark | what do you mean? | 20:10 |
| clivejo | it was green, now i386 has gone red :/ | 20:10 |
| clivejo | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.12.1_xenial.html | 20:10 |
| sgclark | build-essential but it is not going to be installed uh. that is not me!! upstream hiccup? trying rebuild. | 20:11 |
| clivejo | weird! | 20:12 |
| sgclark | yeah build-essential is a bit essential haha | 20:12 |
| clivejo | has anyone been brave enough to add the apps staging PPA? | 20:46 |
| clivejo | sgclark: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+build/9289629 | 20:52 |
| * clivejo dances!! | 20:52 | |
| sgclark | woohoo | 20:52 |
| clivejo | and akonadi is green too :) | 20:53 |
| clivejo | do you know whats up with kdesdk-kioslaves ? | 20:54 |
| clivejo | link - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+build/8934114 | 20:54 |
| sgclark | clivejo: ftbfs deleting it | 20:55 |
| sgclark | clivejo: do you know how to do kde-l10n? | 20:55 |
| mamarley | clivejo: You asked earlier about the apps staging PPA, I am using it. | 20:55 |
| clivejo | mamarley: how you getting on with it? | 20:55 |
| mamarley | clivejo: I haven't had any big issues. gwenview is currently un-installable though. | 20:56 |
| mamarley | That is the only thing I have noticed. I don't use pim or akonadi though. | 20:56 |
| sgclark | mamarley: that sounds important, can you paste a log? | 20:56 |
| mamarley | Sure, one sec. | 20:57 |
| sgclark | thanks | 20:57 |
| soee | sgclark: is all as i wrote in the comment https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JDRichards/posts/Ftih1UUL2Jk ? | 20:57 |
| mamarley | sgclark: https://paste.kde.org/pjkox3vz7 | 20:58 |
| sgclark | soee: look good | 20:59 |
| sgclark | looks* | 20:59 |
| claydoh | clivejo: last I tried staging-applications, kdepim was borked. Is that working? I needs my kmail lol | 20:59 |
| clivejo | claydoh: it might still be borked | 21:00 |
| clivejo | looking for testers! | 21:00 |
| clivejo | I use it heavily and dont fancy risking it! | 21:00 |
| mamarley | That's what ppa-purge is for. | 21:01 |
| clivejo | mamarley: would you mind being a guinea pig? | 21:01 |
| mamarley | clivejo: For what? | 21:01 |
| clivejo | kontact | 21:01 |
| genii | "things" ;) | 21:01 |
| clivejo | see if it installs | 21:01 |
| claydoh | ppa-purge didn't work to fix the pim stuff, left bits behind I think had to dig out the new ones and uninstall, reinstall the previous | 21:02 |
| claydoh | clivejo: Im diving in ow | 21:02 |
| claydoh | n ow | 21:02 |
| clivejo | akonadi is very fussy | 21:02 |
| mamarley | clivejo: There aren't any dependency conflicts, but I don't want to test actually installing it on this computer. | 21:03 |
| clivejo | even if you can ppa-purge, it can mess up email accounts and other settings | 21:03 |
| mamarley | Yeah, that's true. | 21:03 |
| clivejo | which I currently dont have time to fix | 21:03 |
| clivejo | I just feel lucky its working now! | 21:03 |
| claydoh | thats no big edeal for me, imap means I can just start fresh | 21:03 |
| clivejo | plus I use kolab | 21:04 |
| clivejo | and Ive had to disable it in this build 15.12.1 | 21:04 |
| clivejo | claydoh: any feedback? | 21:14 |
| claydoh | not done downloading yet | 21:14 |
| clivejo | holding my breath over here! | 21:15 |
| claydoh | dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/kmail_4%3a15.12.1-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa3_amd64.deb (--unpack): | 21:23 |
| claydoh | trying to overwrite '/etc/xdg/korganizer.knsrc', which is also in package korganizer 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 | 21:23 |
| claydoh | easily fixed | 21:23 |
| claydoh | ok lots of these | 21:31 |
| sgclark | claydoh: can you pastebin them all, we need to fix them | 21:31 |
| claydoh | ok | 21:31 |
| sgclark | thanks! | 21:32 |
| clivejo | sgclark: can you teach me | 21:32 |
| sgclark | Breaks and Replaces? go look at my last few akonadi commits | 21:32 |
| claydoh | I stopped after a bit, too many | 21:34 |
| claydoh | http://paste.ubuntu.com/15270077/ | 21:34 |
| sgclark | only way we can find them is trial and error :( thanks for those though | 21:35 |
| clivejo | such a mess! | 21:36 |
| sgclark | yeah because they split the libs. thinking. | 21:37 |
| sgclark | hmm or is it. I am going to try in a vm, something is missing on that paste. but very helpful nonetheless. | 21:38 |
| sgclark | why would kmail have all those files.. is what I want to know | 21:39 |
| clivejo | so weird | 21:47 |
| clivejo | look at the build log - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/242561853/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kdepim_4%3A15.12.1-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa3_BUILDING.txt.gz | 21:47 |
| clivejo | its installing it into both kmail and korganizer | 21:48 |
| clivejo | ah, wildcard in kmail.install | 21:49 |
| clivejo | etc/xdg | 21:49 |
| clivejo | need to remove that line | 21:52 |
| clivejo | sgclark: want me to do it? | 21:52 |
| sgclark | clivejo: sure, nice catch :) | 21:52 |
| Rick_Timmis | Packaging party !! -> https://plus.google.com/b/112102796730023795852/events/cvp1pmljbvron5tn4i0qcdo10ns | 21:53 |
| Rick_Timmis | please share this were ever you can | 21:53 |
| * sgclark shares | 21:54 | |
| ahoneybun | https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.6/download.png | 21:54 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin, ^ | 21:54 |
| clivejo | sgclark: did you manage to get to bottom of gwenview problem? | 21:59 |
| sgclark | err no not yet, got distracted. It is red so I was starting there | 22:00 |
| clivejo | its green here - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.12.1_xenial.html | 22:00 |
| sgclark | well yeah but it doesn't install I hear | 22:01 |
| clivejo | did you see mamarley paste - https://paste.kde.org/pjkox3vz7 | 22:01 |
| sgclark | it is red in unstable | 22:01 |
| clivejo | any clues? | 22:01 |
| sgclark | well no not really. | 22:02 |
| sgclark | except wasnt ksnapshot removed? | 22:02 |
| clivejo | I cant see whats wrong with it :/ | 22:02 |
| clivejo | its replaced | 22:03 |
| sgclark | repaced rather? | 22:03 |
| clivejo | with spectacle | 22:03 |
| sgclark | well that is the only thing that stands out. not sure how to fix, yofel? help!! | 22:03 |
| clivejo | debian are calling it kde-spectacle due to name conflict | 22:04 |
| yofel | the paste looks about right? | 22:04 |
| clivejo | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+build/9015831 | 22:04 |
| sgclark | it does? so is the user suppose to pick 1? I don't know, I wouldnt expect a user to know | 22:05 |
| yofel | ksnapshot is qt4, thus uses old kipi. gwenview is qt5 now and uses new kipi. And it seems like the 2 kipi's aren't co-installable | 22:06 |
| yofel | so that's about the expected result | 22:06 |
| yofel | something *should* install kde-spectacle. Not sure what though | 22:07 |
| yofel | on a release scope I would solve it through the seed, which needs an update anyway | 22:07 |
| clivejo | whois 37.130.231.221 | 22:08 |
| sgclark | ok | 22:08 |
| sgclark | I dont know clivejo hah | 22:08 |
| clivejo | a spammer! | 22:08 |
| clivejo | sorry, wrong window | 22:08 |
| clivejo | didnt click into my email servers ssh window! | 22:09 |
| mamarley | Oh, sorry, so I should install "kde-spectacle" and remove "ksnapshot"? | 22:09 |
| clivejo | who ever they are they being added to my firewall! | 22:09 |
| sgclark | yeah mamarley | 22:10 |
| sgclark | we will have to fix seed on release | 22:10 |
| sgclark | thanks for finding that though :) , very important find for release. | 22:11 |
| clivejo | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/spectacle.git/plain/debian/control?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive | 22:11 |
| clivejo | should the control file not have a breaks ksnapshot? | 22:11 |
| mamarley | sgclark: OK, sorry for the false error report. | 22:11 |
| sgclark | it was not false at all. excellent find! | 22:12 |
| sgclark | mamarley: ^^ | 22:12 |
| yofel | clivejo: what for? The appropriate breaks are in place already | 22:12 |
| clivejo | mamarley: we need to fix these, all very info is very useful | 22:12 |
| yofel | and AFAIK, it doesn't really break anything in the ksnapshot package | 22:12 |
| clivejo | what actually pulls in spectacle? | 22:13 |
| yofel | if anything, a Replaces for the keyboard shortcut file maybe? I don't remember if they're the same file | 22:13 |
| yofel | nothing probably | 22:13 |
| yofel | right now | 22:13 |
| yofel | it should be a recommends of kubuntu-desktop eventually | 22:14 |
| sgclark | does gwenview? | 22:14 |
| sgclark | why did gwenview trigger a vbreak? | 22:14 |
| yofel | kipi | 22:14 |
| clivejo | kio-extras? | 22:15 |
| sgclark | oh right makes sense | 22:15 |
| sgclark | nah needed new kipi and snapshot depended on the kipi installed | 22:15 |
| sgclark | makes sense | 22:15 |
| sgclark | so snapshot needs to be removed on anything that depends on new kipi.. somehow I dont know how to pull that off | 22:16 |
| sgclark | or replaced with spectacle rather | 22:16 |
| yofel | kde-spectacle having a transitional ksnapshot package would be one idea. Would need a version override though | 22:17 |
| yofel | maxyz: how are you replacing it? | 22:17 |
| clivejo | with fire! | 22:18 |
| genii | !info kde-spectacle | 22:21 |
| ubottu | Package kde-spectacle does not exist in wily | 22:21 |
| genii | hm | 22:21 |
| clivejo | doesnt exist in xenial either! | 22:22 |
| clivejo | !info kde-spectacle xenial | 22:22 |
| ubottu | Package kde-spectacle does not exist in xenial | 22:22 |
| clivejo | see :P | 22:22 |
| valorie | clivejo: thanks for the link to the FFe | 22:30 |
| valorie | I've subscribed and added a comment | 22:30 |
| clivejo | yofel: will you ship PIM with kolab disabled or not ship it at all? | 22:32 |
| yofel | considering the state it's in I would not upload kdepim* and akonadi* at all | 22:32 |
| yofel | otherwise you know more about it then I do, what's your opinion on it? | 22:33 |
| clivejo | Im not sure, personally with kolab disabled its of no use to me. But for others I think disabled is better than nothing | 22:34 |
| clivejo | some people are experiencing crashed with archive version | 22:35 |
| clivejo | 15.08 I think it is | 22:35 |
| sgclark | yeah that one is broken | 22:35 |
| sgclark | if we can get it in without kolab and add kolab back in on point release I think that is better than nothing | 22:36 |
| sgclark | clivejo: were you able to fix that install file? | 22:36 |
| clivejo | kmail.install yes | 22:36 |
| clivejo | rebuilding now | 22:36 |
| sgclark | cool thanks, need to test that | 22:37 |
| clivejo | the gwenview issue, I have no idea what is even wrong | 22:37 |
| sgclark | then I will make a final test call tonight and add results to Ffe | 22:37 |
| clivejo | :) | 22:38 |
| * clivejo fingers crossed | 22:38 | |
| sgclark | gwenview itself is not broken. kipi is not coinstallable with its qt4 versio which in turn break ksnapshot, which really should be replaced with kde-spectacle | 22:39 |
| sgclark | wow that is a mouthful haha | 22:39 |
| clivejo | say that fast with a gobble stopper :P | 22:39 |
| sgclark | lol | 22:39 |
| clivejo | gobb | 22:39 |
| sgclark | question is though is that enough to stop an ffe from going through? | 22:40 |
| yofel | is kde-spectacle listed in the FFE? In general, it shouldn't stop it | 22:42 |
| sgclark | it is | 22:42 |
| clivejo | anyone shed any light on why this is failing - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/245143734/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kwin_4%3A5.5.4+git20160302.2113+16.04-0_BUILDING.txt.gz | 22:55 |
| sgclark | class KWayland::Server::SeatInterface' has no member named 'isDragPointer' | 22:57 |
| sgclark | perhaps it needs new kwayland? | 22:58 |
| clivejo | http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kwayland/ | 22:58 |
| clivejo | wayland is green | 22:58 |
| clivejo | seems to be building ok | 22:59 |
| * sgclark looks if green upstream | 22:59 | |
| sgclark | well unstable. but that is not it | 23:00 |
| sgclark | got me! | 23:00 |
| clivejo | me too | 23:00 |
| sgclark | maybe wayland itself is too old? | 23:00 |
| clivejo | Im just checking that | 23:00 |
| sgclark | lol cool | 23:01 |
| clivejo | building kwayland-dev_5.5.4+git20160302.0141+16.04-0_amd64.deb | 23:01 |
| clivejo | kdepim has built, but I have missed two files | 23:06 |
| clivejo | if I upload the fix now, will it affect the publishing? | 23:06 |
| sgclark | publishing? | 23:07 |
| sgclark | the fix needs to be put in regardless | 23:07 |
| clivejo | it takes over an hour to build | 23:08 |
| clivejo | will I just go ahead and upload to LP? | 23:09 |
| sgclark | yes please | 23:10 |
| clivejo | done | 23:10 |
| clivejo | the previous package, if it gets published should resolve those errors claydoh seeing | 23:11 |
| sgclark | eek | 23:12 |
| clivejo | the new kdepim is very broken! | 23:12 |
| clivejo | lots of libs migrated out to akonadi | 23:13 |
| sgclark | stable should not be affected by that though | 23:13 |
| sgclark | patch failed | 23:14 |
| clivejo | LOl stable has been broken for months! | 23:14 |
| sgclark | oy | 23:15 |
| clivejo | PIM is like a black magic | 23:15 |
| sgclark | hmm stable should match what is in staging. something is surely amiss | 23:16 |
| sgclark | though I agree is pim is the reason for my nightmares every night. | 23:18 |
| valorie | {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} to sgclark | 23:22 |
| valorie | I can lend my teddybear if that will help! | 23:22 |
| * genii breaks out the whiskey | 23:27 | |
| sgclark | all stuffed animals accepted | 23:27 |
| clivejo | Ill have a whiskey please! | 23:28 |
| sgclark | o i c commits to Applications/15.12 because they are about to release another point release | 23:28 |
| sgclark | oh well. | 23:28 |
| sgclark | we need what we have in archive first. | 23:28 |
| * genii slides clivejo a double, neat | 23:28 | |
| sgclark | I am not about to do another Ffe | 23:29 |
| clivejo | thankyou! | 23:29 |
| genii | No problemmo | 23:29 |
| sgclark | hah whiskey makes me more crazy than normal | 23:29 |
| valorie | crazy is sometimes good | 23:30 |
| valorie | not sure about in packaging though@ | 23:30 |
| valorie | ! | 23:30 |
| sgclark | lol | 23:30 |
| sgclark | could make for an interesting release. | 23:31 |
| genii | My boss gets me a bottle of Jamesons or Glenfiddich every year, I put them in the bottom drawer of my filing cabinet | 23:31 |
| sgclark | nice! I want a boss like that | 23:31 |
| clivejo | can we have Konqi with a bottle of whiskey in his hand, in a jolly state? | 23:31 |
| sgclark | or any boss really. | 23:31 |
| clivejo | as Senials wallpaper? | 23:32 |
| genii | BTW I can do a little testing Friday | 23:32 |
| sgclark | ccool, we like testers | 23:33 |
| sgclark | more the merrier | 23:33 |
| * clivejo kicks kci | 23:36 | |
| clivejo | maybe it needs libhybris? | 23:38 |
| clivejo | !info libhybris-dev xenial | 23:38 |
| ubottu | libhybris-dev (source: libhybris): Development headers and libraries for libhybris. In component main, is extra. Version 0.1.0+git20151016+6d424c9-0ubuntu5 (xenial), package size 19 kB, installed size 143 kB (Only available for armhf; i386; amd64) | 23:38 |
| clivejo | I give up! | 23:57 |
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