[00:15] sgclark: I just created stable and unstable branches for spectacle, would you poke KCI into building it please? [00:16] lol, this script takes a long time... I would prefer if we could do these all at once\ [00:18] running.. [00:21] Im just shouting them out as I see them [00:22] trying to figure out what is wrong with them! [00:23] its fine. just tired. [00:25] kactivitymanagerd : 00:22:13 ERROR: Couldn't find any revision to build. Verify the repository and branch configuration for this job. [00:25] whats that mean? [00:29] clivejo: it means it cannot find the branch specified. let me look [00:30] which branch? [00:30] debian git or kde git [00:30] nope it is failing @ kde git [00:32] yep only has a master branch and it is trying to pull Plasma 5.5 [00:32] lets see [00:50] clivejo: I created a pull request to fix that, unfortunately blue systems aka sitter will have to accept it. So probably will not happen till tomorrow. very late on your side of the pond. [00:51] no prob, need to hit the sack myself! [00:51] I bet lol [00:51] KCI is busy now anyways! [00:57] sgclark: pull requests are more bonus than anything. when you run update-projects the only thing that matters is what the yamls in your working directory say [00:58] sgclark: I think you need to rebase your branch [00:58] oh. that I did not know [00:58] https://github.com/blue-systems/pangea-tooling/pull/2 [00:58] https://github.com/ScarlettGatelyClark/pangea-tooling/commit/5d7fc54c067665f4a4a37be64c9bb0d8485ea2ed that should not be there [00:59] ugh I do not understand github at all [00:59] * sitter reads backlog [00:59] all I wanted to update was base.yaml [01:00] sgclark: gem install git-up, then use git up instead of git pull ;) [01:00] 9/10 times git up will make smarter decisions about what to do [01:00] ok [01:00] anyway [01:00] sgclark: that change actually is wrong [01:00] kactivitymanagerd has no stable branch [01:00] interesting [01:00] only gets one with 5.6 I presume [01:01] I did not say stable branch. I said master [01:01] yeah, you are mapping kubuntu_*stable* to upstream master [01:01] which is conceptually wrong [01:01] oh. [01:01] I see the error of my ways now [01:02] the problem with that is that it will later prevent kactivitymanagerd from using the common plasma stable branch btw, so that would cause head scratching [01:03] sgclark: what you probably want to do is drop the kubuntu_stable branch from the packaging repo [01:03] and remove the jobs [01:03] ci-tooling/kci/expunge.rb might help with that [01:04] I do not have perms to delete branches [01:04] doesn't everyone have? [01:04] ugh [01:04] you just have to disable the hook manually first I think [01:04] ci-tooling/kci/expunge.rb --keep-merger --type stable --dist wily --dist xenial kactivitymanagerd [01:05] that should sort jenkins [01:05] (I think ;) [01:05] my head hurts. don't we have a release manager around here?! ... I will have to look at this [01:06] diable the hook. what does that mean exactly? [01:06] git hook somewhere? [01:06] on git.debian.org go into the repo dir and move hooks hooks.bak [01:06] then push [01:06] then move back [01:07] or ask maxy how he does it. I don't actually recall having to move hooks out of the way [01:07] so maybe there is more to it [01:07] I have not actually tried to delete. was just told that [01:09] sgclark: just try it xD [01:10] yeah I will, got 50 thousand things going on. + my brain is scrambled with a migraine [01:11] if we still had a bot I'd order you some drugs [01:11] alas [01:11] sitter: maybe a fez. [01:12] a fez does not help with a migraine silly :P [01:15] delete was a success. now to expunge.rb [01:18] died at lp call... investigating [01:19] sgclark: you need to setup an lp token for that [01:19] but you don't really need that anyway [01:19] jenkins happesn first [01:19] and since the jobs never created any valid builds there is nothing on lp anyway [01:19] o [01:19] k [01:21] sgclark: didn't the lp thingy tell you to go to some url to authenticate? [01:22] I see it in console but it zoomed past the type done and hit enter and never opened webpage or let me type. [01:22] like it usually would [01:22] one sec [01:22] you have to run it again to get a new url [01:23] actaully it running past the typing input is weird [01:23] sounds buggish xd [01:23] ran again, same error, but I thought it was not needed [01:23] now I am confused [01:23] sgclark: yeah, but something to look into [01:24] ok, yes I thought the skipping user input odd [01:25] https://github.com/blue-systems/pangea-tooling/blob/master/ci-tooling/lib/lp.rb#L102 [01:25] the weird thing is... even if io doesn't work that should infinite loop [01:25] unless it actually reads done that loop never ends [01:25] very peculiar [01:25] that is the way I read it. but I never typed done lo [01:26] oh [01:26] wait [01:27] lp.rb:104:in `gets' No such file or directory [01:27] * sitter watching tv program in mandarin. takes forever. nothing but waiting to do [01:27] sgclark: oO [01:27] @ rb_sysopen [01:27] sgclark: do you pipe this command something? [01:28] sitter: I copied your command above [01:28] that sounds like it can't open stdin for reading... wtf... [01:28] (05:04:54 PM) sitter: ci-tooling/kci/expunge.rb --keep-merger --type stable --dist wily --dist xenial kactivitymanagerd [01:29] umm actually it seems like it is trying to open kactivitymanagerd hah. let me paste this for you [01:30] aaaaaaaaaaah [01:30] I think we leave kactivitymanagerd in ARGV [01:30] and gets then reads that [01:30] sgclark: run irb [01:30] sitter: paste.ubuntu.com/15263932/ [01:30] that brings up a prompt [01:30] ok [01:30] then paste this https://paste.kde.org/pn7julrmj [01:31] then you should get the auth business and it should wait for your done input ;) [01:31] http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.0/Kernel.html#method-i-gets xD [01:32] we leave the dangling stuff in ARGV and gets then pops it and gets all confused ^^ [01:32] yep that was it [01:32] will fix tomororw [01:32] somewhat for a corner case [01:33] lol I am a corner case! always and forever [01:34] ok that is fixed now. thanks [01:36] also wrote down for future admisn https://github.com/blue-systems/pangea-tooling/wiki/Launchpad-Config [01:36] thanks! [01:37] so you can toss my pull request. thanks for the help. [01:58] sitter: I thought a fez helped with everything. === aaron is now known as ahoneybun [09:44] Good morning. [09:45] morning lordievader [09:45] Hey clivejo, how are you? [09:45] sgclark: mind if I stage plasma 5.5.5? [09:45] cold and sleepy! [09:57] lordievader: what about you? [09:58] Doing good here, fighting with kdeconnect. [10:00] oh? [10:01] My kio is probably missing something, when trying to browse the phone it complains that it doesn't know kdeconnect. [10:02] Guess, I [10:02] Im using a package from KCI, seems to be working fine [10:02] I'll use Airdroid for file transfer. [10:02] clivejo: I'm running Gentoo ;) [10:03] ah [10:03] clivejo: she probable sleeping right now :) [10:03] yofel: can we stage 5.5.5 ? [10:04] soee: he told me to ask sgclark [10:05] ah.. ok :) [10:06] * clivejo considers staging it locally [10:07] or maybe upload to my PPA instead [10:09] maybe i don't know about something but why it can't be uploaded to staging just likt this? :) [10:09] does ot break anything ? [10:10] The release managers need to know all thats going on for future planning [10:11] if packages needed for a release (archive) havent been copied out a new version deletes the old one [10:12] someone has to keep track of it all [10:13] and all this is voluntary and done by very busy people in their spare time [10:14] ok so we have something waiting for upload to archive but then shouldn't it be pending in testing ppa and staging should be free for next version upload ? [10:15] soee: Im not sure, I havent been at this long enough to know the potential pitfalls [10:15] all i know is that this FFE is a major log jam for development [10:16] yup :) also i don't get it why we have to wait so long for the response [10:16] me neither [10:16] are we sure they get our messages ? [10:16] soee: I have no idea [10:20] As sgclark is on the UCC I assume she would know who to poke and so forth, its something Ive never done before and dont understand the process [10:22] !ffe [10:22] Feature Freeze Exception. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess for the freeze exception process. [10:23] valorie: are you up late or up early?!? [10:24] too late [10:24] eakkk [10:24] get some sleep! [10:24] you have a meeting in the morning! [10:24] gads, that has so many steps [10:24] well, I'll set my alarm for that, but no promises [10:26] what is the process for getting software into the archive? [10:27] sponsorship [10:27] which is why some of the kubuntu devels also became/will become MOTU [10:27] I kinda feel like Im wasting my time packaging digikam calligra etc as it doesnt seem to get into the archive [10:28] Ubuntu Developer is as difficult as Debian Developer I think [10:28] ? [10:28] you are getting it to our users [10:28] not much use in my PPA! [10:28] yes, I guess you have to get testing first? [10:29] that FFe page gives a link to the sponsorship process [10:29] I believe it's pretty much the same in Debian [10:30] you make your package and then ask for sponsorship, and the sponsor DD works with you to make it perfect [10:30] the more you do that, the closer you get to Developer status [11:27] sitter: ^^ that kpat build had an SSLError, is that a LP problem? [11:31] also, is there a way to push something to the front of the queue [11:55] asked this yesterday already? will there be an update to kdepim in near future? even 16.10 is stuck at 5.0.2 afaics [12:01] kfunk: well apps 16.04 are due out in April [12:01] and there looks to be some big changes in PIM [12:02] ugh, and I meant 16.04 of course :) [12:02] I mean KDE Applications 16.04, not Kubuntu 16.04(Xenial) [12:03] right, I was referring to the Xenial version of course. [12:07] * kfunk is heavily confused about kdepim's release schedule. it's supposed to be part of kde apps, right? but I don't see source tarballs of kdepim related apps in any of 15.08 and 15.12, for instance [12:07] e.g. no kontact here: http://download.kde.org/stable/applications/15.12.2/src/ [12:08] its bunched up into a few different tars [12:09] kdepim, kdepim-runtime, kdepimlibs [12:10] kfunk: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/kontact [12:10] built by kdepim [12:11] ah, right. sure [12:12] ok, right. 15.08.2 is what I have right now (on xenial), which has the internal version 5.0.2. [12:12] I dont know why or what that internal version is all about! [12:14] well, doesn't matter indeed. it's just what `kontact --version` spits out here. [12:18] so, I guess the correct question would be: why's Xenial still stuck with KDE Apps 15.08; and when will it get 15.12 or 16.04? :) [12:21] kfunk: Because KDEPIM 15.12.2 has caused us problems [12:21] and Xenial is now in Feature Freeze [12:22] :\ [12:22] so we cant add it, even if we wanted to! [12:22] that... sucks. [12:22] We have a FFE open, but no reply yet [12:22] we were going to release apps 15.12.2 without PIM [12:23] question: does korganizer work for you at all atm? [12:23] kontact works for me, yes [12:23] korganizer, to be exact. it just crashes here when opening [12:23] and this crash is confirmed by multiple other users in BKO [12:23] what version of kdepim is installed? [12:24] 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 [12:25] same as mine [12:25] no crash? [12:25] when starting `korganizer`? [12:25] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=352256 fwiw [12:25] KDE bug 352256 in general "Korganizer / Kontakt crash [EventViews::AgendaView::placeDecorations]" [Crash,Confirmed] [12:26] nope, opens Kontact in Calendar view [12:26] and I can see all my appointments and Kolab tasks [12:28] ok. if ubuntu is really stuck at 15.08.2 I need to dig into the issue and patch this particular version. korganizer is unusable right now. [12:28] sigh [12:29] what version plasma and frameworks you on? [12:30] does kmail work? [12:31] yep [12:31] sounds like might be a missing dep for calendar [12:32] akregator is crashy as well, though. (didn't dig into it yet, though. just happens for one particular feed entry) [12:32] akregator has caused me problems [12:32] I'll check... I thought I'd be just happily receiving updates and the issues would vanish, but apparently that's not the case ;) [12:32] but only certain feeds due to a weird SSL cert [12:34] I've already patched akonadi-server locally (because it has a pretty serious issue with unread-mails counting when ignored threads are involved...) [12:34] tl;dr: lots of issues in KDEPIM 15.08.2 [12:34] kfunk: upstream are doing a lot of work moving libs out of kdepimlibs into akonadi [12:36] kfunk: do you know how the packages interact? [12:37] roughly [12:37] honestly, I just want my kdepim to work. I'm busy enough with other things :\ [12:37] kfunk: check out http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.12.1_xenial.html [12:37] thats our progress on apps 15.12.1 [12:38] basically the red packages are what we are having issues with [12:39] Ive just moved in KCI builds of libkolab and libkolabxml and retrying kdepim-runtime against that [12:41] Ill go have some lunch while that builds [12:41] * clivejo fingers crossed [12:41] clivejo: where's the FFE? I'd like to subscribe [12:41] indeed. [12:41] thanks for the hard work [12:43] sgclark filed it, cant remember which package it was against :/ [12:46] Bug 1547571 [12:46] bug 1547571 in meta-kde (Ubuntu) "[FFe] KDE Meta" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547571 [12:47] I think thats it [13:09] Hi, I have a FFe for the tomahawk-player package, now. I'm looking for a sponsor for this package. The Kubuntu Developers maintained the old tomahawk package and so could you sponsor this package, too? This package replace the old tomahawk package because of a name conflict with a different tomahawk package in the debian sources. [13:34] Hi folks [13:36] hiho BluesKaj [13:38] hey soee [14:03] hello [14:39] justin_time: the maintainer field is just plain wrong. We did look after it a long time ago, but nobody here has upload permissions for tomahawk right now. That's why I pointed you to the MOTU team which is the fallback maintainer in this case. [14:39] so, it's not that we're ignoring you, we just can't help you [14:40] yofel: oh ok, thank you for the explanation! But how can it be, that the maintainer has no upload permission? [14:41] justin_time: The Kubuntu team has had a lot of turnover recently. [14:41] justin_time: upload permissions aren't by-maintainer, but by package set. And the package is not in our "supported" package lsit [14:41] Permissions are individual based, not team based. [14:41] ah ok, I thought they are team based. [14:42] thanks for your help anyway! I try to find a sponsor on ubuntu-motu, but this is quite difficult! [14:43] the update is properly listed in the sponsorship queue at least. So it's really finding someone for the upload [14:45] Does anyone of you know a sponsor who could help me? [14:50] anyone know why this failed - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/244999616/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kdepim-runtime_4%3A15.12.1-2ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa6_BUILDING.txt.gz [14:54] clivejo: The errors start with ../../../resources/kolab/kolabhelpers.cpp:88:9: error: 'KContacts' has not been declared [14:55] Possible missing build-depends or a header file left out. [14:56] * clivejo cries [15:39] yofel: can you see if kdevelop* can be a direct sync from debian [15:52] sgclark: I'll get back to you once I did [15:53] thanks\ [16:04] hmm framework kactvities depends on plasma kactivitymanagerd. That is going to be a nightmare.. [16:04] we will need to carefully review the versioned deps when uploading [16:05] plasma deps on frameworks, apps on frameworks, frameworks on apps, plasma on frameworks, frameworks on plasma [16:05] enjoy [16:05] different release schedules too.. [16:05] good grief [16:37] yofel, clivejo, sgclark: I am rolling out a new oauth gem shortly, keep an eye on possible oauth failure for the next couple of days please [16:38] okies [16:41] sgclark: it doesn't "depend" on it [16:41] it's useless without it [16:41] but can be built without it [16:41] or that's what i understand [16:41] ummm ok. clear as mud :) [16:42] no really it's very simple [16:42] but whatever [16:42] wow. did I do something? [16:42] or lack thereof? [16:42] clear as mud :) [16:43] is not a very encouraging sentence [16:43] well I am trying to package. do we need it or not your explaination says both. [16:43] clear as mud [16:44] whatever. I am busy with my kde hat atm. [16:44] as said [16:44] wahtever [16:44] and you got angry but you can watherver me ;) [16:46] if it is useless without it, says to me it does depend on it. Ok done. moving on. thanks for your input tsdgeos. We can be friends again. [16:46] * sgclark goes for more coffee. [16:59] mmm coffee [17:42] sgclark: regarding http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kactivities/ dont we need that package? [17:45] of course we do. clearly something went wrong. investigating [17:48] me and git add do not get along it seems. === mitya57_ is now known as mitya57 [18:53] Plasma 5.6 beta out :) [18:54] heh [18:56] sgclark: clivejo asked earlier if we can stage 5.5.5 [18:56] are there any objections ? [18:57] No. we need Ffe approved and this stuff in archive. Or we will have to file another and start all over. [18:57] At this rate we will not have an xenial release. [19:02] is there something holding up the ffe? [19:02] ubuntu-release team [19:03] no activity at all from them [19:03] can we somehow catch them and chat with them ? [19:04] clivejo tried without luck [19:04] What's the bug number? [19:05] so maybe we should talk with other team/group [19:05] is there a link to Core Meeting? [19:05] maybe they could get in touch with this ffe team [19:05] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/1547571 [19:05] Launchpad bug 1547571 in meta-kde (Ubuntu) "[FFe] KDE Meta" [Critical,Confirmed] [19:06] The "FFe team" is the Ubuntu release team. [19:06] The only reply I got was "sending bribes to release team postal addresses usually works" [19:06] ScottK: ^ [19:06] sgclark: You've (the collective you) tested all this, right? [19:07] ScottK: yep. For weeks now. [19:07] thanks. I figured, but just checking. [19:08] sgclark: does pim build if we drop kolab support? [19:08] sgclark: It'd probably be good to describe the testing you've done in the bug. [19:08] clivejo: At this time I am releasing without. If you want to try to build without kolab go ahead. [19:09] just seems to be what debian have done [19:10] ScottK Ok. I will asap [19:12] does anyone know any of them to give them a personal poke? [19:12] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+mugshots [19:13] since few days autocomplete for commands stopped working for me ... someone can confirm this on Xenial ? [19:13] clivejo: I just did. [19:14] :) thanks ScottK [19:59] sgclark: rebuild with libkolab-dev removed but its still FTBFS [20:00] sgclark: is there any way to force a package to jump the queue and build? [20:00] ok. removing pim from Ffe. We will have to backport when the time comes. We will point all the angry peeps upstream haha [20:01] jump the que? in jenkins? no not without priority plugin. And I do not know enough about their setup to starting adding plugins. [20:01] oh wait, its missing files its failing on! [20:02] oooh [20:02] * sgclark holds on removing pim [20:02] the kolab stuff [20:02] if I remove them from *.install it might just work! [20:02] gimme a sec [20:02] k [20:03] and ovidiu-florin send me a podcast link! [20:03] * sgclark is watching [20:03] got a link?? [20:03] Im missing it! [20:03] on my phone :( [20:04] google search Kubuntu podcast? [20:05] https://youtu.be/oMimKAPRxyM [20:09] sgclark: what happened akonadi? [20:10] what do you mean? [20:10] it was green, now i386 has gone red :/ [20:10] http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.12.1_xenial.html [20:11] build-essential but it is not going to be installed uh. that is not me!! upstream hiccup? trying rebuild. [20:12] weird! [20:12] yeah build-essential is a bit essential haha [20:46] has anyone been brave enough to add the apps staging PPA? [20:52] sgclark: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+build/9289629 [20:52] * clivejo dances!! [20:52] woohoo [20:53] and akonadi is green too :) [20:54] do you know whats up with kdesdk-kioslaves ? [20:54] link - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+build/8934114 [20:55] clivejo: ftbfs deleting it [20:55] clivejo: do you know how to do kde-l10n? [20:55] clivejo: You asked earlier about the apps staging PPA, I am using it. [20:55] mamarley: how you getting on with it? [20:56] clivejo: I haven't had any big issues. gwenview is currently un-installable though. [20:56] That is the only thing I have noticed. I don't use pim or akonadi though. [20:56] mamarley: that sounds important, can you paste a log? [20:57] Sure, one sec. [20:57] thanks [20:57] sgclark: is all as i wrote in the comment https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JDRichards/posts/Ftih1UUL2Jk ? [20:58] sgclark: https://paste.kde.org/pjkox3vz7 [20:59] soee: look good [20:59] looks* [20:59] clivejo: last I tried staging-applications, kdepim was borked. Is that working? I needs my kmail lol [21:00] claydoh: it might still be borked [21:00] looking for testers! [21:00] I use it heavily and dont fancy risking it! [21:01] That's what ppa-purge is for. [21:01] mamarley: would you mind being a guinea pig? [21:01] clivejo: For what? [21:01] kontact [21:01] "things" ;) [21:01] see if it installs [21:02] ppa-purge didn't work to fix the pim stuff, left bits behind I think had to dig out the new ones and uninstall, reinstall the previous [21:02] clivejo: Im diving in ow [21:02] n ow [21:02] akonadi is very fussy [21:03] clivejo: There aren't any dependency conflicts, but I don't want to test actually installing it on this computer. [21:03] even if you can ppa-purge, it can mess up email accounts and other settings [21:03] Yeah, that's true. [21:03] which I currently dont have time to fix [21:03] I just feel lucky its working now! [21:03] thats no big edeal for me, imap means I can just start fresh [21:04] plus I use kolab [21:04] and Ive had to disable it in this build 15.12.1 [21:14] claydoh: any feedback? [21:14] not done downloading yet [21:15] holding my breath over here! [21:23] dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/kmail_4%3a15.12.1-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa3_amd64.deb (--unpack): [21:23] trying to overwrite '/etc/xdg/korganizer.knsrc', which is also in package korganizer 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 [21:23] easily fixed [21:31] ok lots of these [21:31] claydoh: can you pastebin them all, we need to fix them [21:31] ok [21:32] thanks! [21:32] sgclark: can you teach me [21:32] Breaks and Replaces? go look at my last few akonadi commits [21:34] I stopped after a bit, too many [21:34]