[01:29] <Mylon> Argh, Plasma keeps having all of these weird bugs and it's driving me crazy.
[01:29] <Mylon> Right now some dialogs/windows just show up as a black box.
[01:30] <Mylon> And I haven't quite figured out how to restart it safely.  Killing it makes launching anything damn near impossible.
[02:39] <Fritigern> Mylon: hit CTRL+Space (CTRL+F2 before Plama5) to bring up KRunner and enter "killall -s HUP plasmashell && plasmashell --shut-up" to restart plasma
[02:40] <Mylon> So before I do this, can you explain to me what these commands do?  I've tried "killall plasmashell && plasmashell" in the past but then I can't switch tasks and alt-space pretends to work but doesn't actually launch anything.
[02:41] <Mylon> Basically forcing me to restart.
[02:50] <Mylon> Fritigern?
[02:52] <Fritigern> killall -s HUP causes a more or less clean abort of the plasmashell process, and plasmashell --shut-up is how plasmashell is begin run by the system in the first place.
[02:52] <Fritigern> I use this all the time, well, when I need to. And I promise you that it works.
[02:53] <Mylon> Alright.
[02:55] <Mylon> Hmm, that sorta worked.  Firefox still doesn't redraw anything unless I alt-tab out and back in.
[02:55] <Fritigern> When I first switched to Plasma5, plasma would often refuse to load after it would crash, but this usually did help with that : killall -s KILL plasmashell && rm -f ~/.cache/ksycoca5 && kbuildsycoca5 && plasmashell --shut-up
[02:55] <Fritigern> Do make sure you have the most recent drivers ofr your graphics card
[02:56] <Mylon> I wonder if AMD makes an auto-detect app for Linux...
[02:56] <Mylon> I'm on a 5 year old laptop.
[02:56] <Fritigern> If using an Nvidia or AMD card, you may get better results with the non-free drivers
[02:56] <Fritigern> 5 year old? Then whatever AMD card is in there, it will probably no longer be supported by them
[03:01] <Mylon> Or maybe I need a different GUI than KDE/plasma.
[03:04] <Mylon> And now Pidgin can turn black and not display anything until I restart that.  :/
[03:04] <Fritigern> Sounds like your issue is mostly with GTK apps
[03:05] <Fritigern> Have a look at your GTK themes and see if they need to be reinstalled
[03:06] <Mylon> This is a nearly fresh install I did like a month ago.  Someone here recommended I update to a newer version of Plasma but beyond that I haven't really done much to core systems.
[03:43] <AciD`> I used ctrl+alt+L to lock my session
[03:44] <AciD`> a white screen is now shown
[03:44] <AciD`> what to do? :/
[03:44] <rapte> hmm
[03:45] <rapte> i think your session locker might've got broken or something
[03:45] <rapte> just to go console (ctrl+alt+f1) and run systemctl restart lightdm
[03:45] <rapte> (i assume you are telling this from another computer)
[03:45] <AciD`> additionnaly, ctrl+alt+F[1-6] just goes to a black screen, then the screen goes in standby mode :/
[03:45] <AciD`> yes I am
[03:46] <AciD`> let's ssh to it then..
[03:47] <AciD`> well, no luck
[03:48] <AciD`> hm
[03:48] <AciD`> perhaps it's because I switched from fglrx to the opensource driver
[03:48] <AciD`> I rebooted
[04:58] <jack_> How would I be able to upgrade kde 4 to kde5?
[05:16] <valorie> jack_: I have done it, but it is not simple
[05:16] <valorie> much easier to make a fresh install
[05:17] <valorie> what version of Kubuntu are you running now?
[06:14] <muessigb> AciD`: but how shall i do that during the installation
[06:14] <muessigb> the installer does not allow me to do anything
[06:14] <muessigb> i can't just open a command line and solve the conflict
[06:45] <AciD`> cool
[06:46] <AciD`> switching from kde4 to kde5 means losing most of your settings, at least all the one for configuring the desktop..
[06:46] <AciD`> way to go martin.
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[06:49] <hateball> AciD`: You could go in #kde and speak to mgraesslin if you like
[06:50] <hateball> Ranting about someone giving you software for free where they are not around to read seems pretty rude
[06:51] <AciD`> done
[06:52] <AciD`> side question : in kde5, when you set 'windows can cover the panel'...they do cover the panel, but hovering the mouse on the edge does not make the panel appear again. Is there a known fix for this bug?
[07:18] <Bl4ckD34tH_> hello
[08:26] <Muessigb> Is there a way to manually deselect packages on install
[08:26] <Muessigb> Or any debug mode?
[08:27] <Muessigb> In the latest 15.10 installer
[08:27] <Muessigb> There is a package conflict that keeps crashing the installer all the time
[08:27] <Muessigb> with the locales
[08:28] <Muessigb> I have set a German locale, checked non free packages and set German as a language
[08:29] <Muessigb> I unchecked the download updates while installing option
[08:29] <Muessigb> The notebook is a quad core amd64 based system with uefi
[08:31] <Muessigb> The installer is so simplified that it seems impossible to resolve such issues
[08:34] <Muessigb> Did anybody encounter something similar?
[08:34] <Muessigb> Oh well
[08:35] <Muessigb> I might come back later
[08:35] <Muessigb> The screen lied - help doesn't wirk
[08:36] <franky> had a problem in the installer in ubuntu 14 too
[08:52] <franky> is there any distribution similiar to parted magic
[09:07] <valorie> franky: parted magic?
[09:09] <hateball> franky: ##linux probably knows more. depending on which tools you need you can look at sysrescuecd
[09:22] <mag__> minimum sys requrirement for kubuntu
[09:24] <dhanraj> pip3 install rpm gives me error
[09:24] <dhanraj> cannot import rpm in python how should i do it?
[09:25] <andrew_> hi
[09:27] <andrew_> Im having some problems with hangs any hints on where to start looking?
[09:40] <franky> i want to delete the drive, looking for erase disk tool
[09:41] <franky> the drive is old same like the cpu
[09:44] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:37] <ubuntu> hello
[12:40] <Guest83980> witam
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:38] <Mylon> If I wanted to switch to another GUI, what would be the easiest way to do so?  Can I just install the package and edit startup, or should I backup my home directory and reinstall Linux?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> Mylon,, another desktop?
[15:47] <Mylon> Yeah.  Like gnome or... I don't know really.
[15:47] <EvilRoey> we're sorry Mario, but our princess is in another desktop!
[15:48] <EvilRoey> o/ all
[15:48] <Mylon> KDE is not playing nicely with my computer.
[15:51] <BluesKaj> just run sudo apt install gnome-desktop, for exaple , for unity it's ubuntu-desktop, for xfce  I think it's xubuntu-desktop etc etc, then just choose the DE/gui at the login page dropdown after booting
[15:52] <BluesKaj> Mylon, what issues are you having with kde?
[15:53] <Mylon> At the moment most tooltips/notifications/dropdown menus show as black windows.  But I've had other cases where alt-tabbing makes windows flash rapidly.
[15:54] <Mylon> I forget my other gripes at the moment.
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Mylon, have you checked out activities?
[15:55] <Mylon> I have no idea what that is.
[15:55] <BluesKaj> !activities
[15:56] <BluesKaj> !info activities
[15:56] <BluesKaj> oh lord
[15:57] <Mylon> I'm still testing Linux out and trying to get a feel for it... The desktop and the touchpad and Firefox all still feel rough on the edges.
[15:57] <Mylon> Pidgin also doesn't like me, but I'm 99% sure it has something to do with notifications.
[16:01] <BluesKaj> Mylon, http://askubuntu.com/questions/253990/what-is-a-activity-in-kde-and-what-can-i-do-with-it
[16:22] <Mylon> Oh look, Firefox isn't drawing properly again.  :/
[16:27] <BluesKaj> ok which gpu, Mylon?
[16:27] <Mylon> I don't know.  How do I check?  It's AMD mobility something or other.
[16:28] <Mylon> Sometimes Firefox will accept input but it won't update to show what I've done until I alt-tab out and back in.  That one it only started doing over the last couple of days.
[16:30] <BluesKaj> Mylon, in the terminal, lspci |grep VGA
[16:32] <Mylon> Radeon HD 6520G
[19:31] <Steffstoff_> Hi. Anyone here with korganizer expireance?
[19:31] <Steffstoff_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/740919/korganizer-davcal-calendar-disappeared
[21:11] <lyendril> can someone help me with my second screen becoming full white? :)
[23:18] <lloyd__> Hello, anyone sucessfully running kubuntu in hyper v?