[05:52] <MichaelTiebesl> hi there. im planning to install the daily build from 16.04
[05:53] <MichaelTiebesl> do i have to reinstall it once the official 16.04 will come out?
[05:53] <MichaelTiebesl> or can i continue with the daily build to have the same 16.04?
[06:00] <SwedeMike> MichaelTiebesl: generally you can continue and just upgrade packages, unless something breaks of course.
[06:01] <MichaelTiebesl> SwedeMike: thanks. im planning to install it this week so i thought maybe i wait a few weeks more for the final iso, but if it will be the same then thats okay then for me
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> syntroPi: see the schedule in topic
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> syntroPi: you can also test 16.04 daily image right now if you like, if you just keep in mind things can still break
[09:20] <syntroPi> Yeah i know im just really curious about it :-)
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> syntroPi: then install right now
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> adviser: did you have right graphics driver?
[09:24] <syntroPi> Yup gonna have to do some preparations first though, will the daily image finally result in same system as release ?
[09:25] <adviser> lotuspsychje: Not sure
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> syntroPi: you mean upgrade to final?
[09:25] <adviser> I am new into this open source OS
[09:25] <syntroPi> yes
[09:25] <adviser> not familiar in programe, used to install windows OS.
[09:25] <k1l> !final
[09:26] <syntroPi> Ah great thanks
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> adviser: can you pastebin us sudo lshw -C video please?
[09:26] <adviser> how to ?
[09:26] <adviser> Im new into working on the tools
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> adviser: from a terminal
[09:27] <adviser> ok i follow ur instruction stepby step
[09:27] <adviser> user@admin:~$
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> !paste | adviser
[09:28] <adviser> huh?
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> adviser: you can paste the output to the channel here, se we can see what you do
[09:29] <adviser> What should i type ?
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> adviser: scroll up mate
[09:30] <adviser> where?
[09:30] <adviser> Im now at Mate Terminal.
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> adviser: <lotuspsychje> adviser: can you pastebin us sudo lshw -C video please?
[09:32] <adviser> I am lost
[09:32] <adviser> now sure what pastebin
[09:32] <adviser> oh dear.. only familiar in windows
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> adviser: sudo lshw -C video
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> adviser: when you just switched from windows, i would recommend a more stable LTS flavor like ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> adviser: now you chosen an alpha version
[09:34] <adviser>     oh i see
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | adviser download the iso from here
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> adviser: 16.04 will be final in april and youl be able to upgrade from 14.04
[09:36] <adviser> I was told this version in my system is latest beta .. so trial.
[09:36] <adviser> Understand.
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> adviser: for your case i would start with regular desktop 14.04.4 LTS
[09:37] <adviser> So, you suggest me to run the 14.04.4 LTS better? Is that the MATE version ?
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> adviser: i didnt say better, we have all kinds of flavors
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> adviser: but for starter its advisable, when you like it, you can still choose other flavors later
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> !flavors
[09:39] <adviser> I did tried the Ubuntu 15.10 OS 32bits on another laptop, similarly white screen before it fully launched,
[09:39] <adviser> so just wonder.
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | adviser you could try booting with this
[09:44] <adviser> Thanks lotuspsychje and ubottu: I need to figure out
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> adviser: did you install ubuntu with cable + updates enabled during setup?
[09:44] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[09:45] <adviser> yes.. i run in wifi
[09:45] <adviser> and also run software updates
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> adviser: ok, maybe try this 14.04.4 LTS and see if you still got white screen, if it does make a hug
[09:45] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje, how are you?
[09:45] <adviser> Haha thanks good for newbies like me.
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> adviser: now you tested a non-lts version and an alpha version
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> adviser: so i would avise also test LTS
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: fine tnx mate and you? slow coffee :p?
[09:46] <lordievader> About to make one.
[09:47] <adviser> Ok, will reburn .iso to my usb
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> adviser: good luck, and come back to us if you have issues ok
[09:47] <adviser> then reinstall.. hope to find good OS.
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> adviser: ubuntu is a good choice dont worry
[09:48] <adviser> Sure, thanks great to all help
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> adviser: we will figure it out
[09:48] <adviser> I just started this open source.. so used to windows XP and 7.
[09:57] <timp> is BTRFS stable enough to be recommended on a laptop used for development (with a lot of chroots)?
[09:59] <k1l> if you need to ask dont use +1 and btrfs :)
[10:01] <timp> k1l: heh, you have a point there :)
[10:02] <timp> I will use xenial anyway. I will need it and otherwise I'll anyway upgrade to xenial to get the latest LTS
[10:02] <timp> I'm just looking for a bit of information about how mature and stable btrfs is
[10:02] <timp> on an ssd
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> !btrfs
[10:05] <Ben64> i don't know why people like it
[10:07] <timp> Ben64: because in a chroot, I will have a lot of copies of files that will not change, and btrfs will instead of copying the files, link them until one of them is edited
[10:08] <timp> Ben64: that should save disk space, and potentially make creating chroots with the whole filesystem copied inside faster
[10:08] <timp> but if my chroots will have different distributions/releases inside them I guess it won't matter too much
[10:13] <timp> !ext4
[10:14] <timp> the bot needs to know me first?
[10:14] <timp> ah, it doesn't know ext4
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[13:34] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:00] <zzarr> hello! this is just a little question, will the error messages that pops up from time to time be removed? (they are annoying and sometime don't show what's causing the error)
[14:01] <BluesKaj> zzarr,what are you doing when the erors occur?
[14:02] <zzarr> BluesKaj, I'm talking in general, but it always happens on a fresh installation
[14:03] <BluesKaj> zzarr, make sure you update and upgrade, then dist-upgrade to bring in the latest packages and improvements
[14:06] <zzarr> BluesKaj, yea, I do, but I think it's complaining about things that are not that important (I have never noticed any problem)
[14:07] <zzarr> I would have been fine with a "send error reports to Canonical" checkbox during installation and in the settings menu
[14:08] <BluesKaj> zzarr, are any apps crashing ?
[14:08] <zzarr> BluesKaj, since they don't say, I don't know
[14:09] <zzarr> BluesKaj, they just say the system have encountered a problem
[14:09] <BluesKaj> you should saee a crash notice/icon in the panel
[14:09] <BluesKaj> in the terminal ?
[14:11] <zzarr> BluesKaj, the blue icon
[14:13] <BluesKaj> zzarr, I'm on kde , so the crash icon is different
[14:13] <zzarr> BluesKaj, okey
[14:18] <zzarr> I'm installing Ubuntu in a vm now to show what I mean
[14:20] <zzarr> it should be done soon
[14:27] <zzarr> it's rebooting now
[14:32] <zzarr> now lets see if it pops up a message (probably will not knowing my luck)
[14:34] <zzarr> I guess that it's not luck if something goes wrong
[14:45] <jushur> zzarr: your errors are on a fresh/clean install? or after you added repos?
[14:57] <zzarr> jushur, I use to get them directly
[14:57] <zzarr> since I don't get it right now I begin to think it has something to do with the hw
[14:59] <jushur> zzarr: ive been testing the current desktop and server on quite some machines (40+) and there is not much errors at all actually. all my testing hardware are "new/high" quality machines thou.
[19:13] <icefox234> hello, I want to install 16.04 beta. will my install become LTS when 16.04 is officially released in april?
[19:14] <SwedeMike> icefox234: yes.
[19:14] <icefox234> okay, so no need to download and install a new image upon release?
[19:15] <k1l> no. just run the updates
[19:15] <icefox234> all right, thanks all I needed to know